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Upgrade from Defy

Hi all.
I've had my trusty Defy now for nearly 2 years, and am 4 months shy of my contract end date - but I have no idea what to replace it with.
I'm currently running Epsylon's CM9 ROM, and have always liked the ability to switch ROMs at will, so something with good ROM development is essential.
I love the size of the Defy, something which gave me little choice 2 years ago, and I'm seeing less choice now. Ideally, I'd like a small sized phone rather than a tablet wannabe, but if there isn't anything then I'm open to suggestions.
I mainly use my phone for email, surfing and video playing (YouTube mostly). I'd like something quick, as I'm impatient, but with a good battery life (my Defy's battery started well, but currently only holds charge for a few hours - I'd like a battery that won't give up before my next contract renewal).
Is this the right place to post this? Do ex-Defy owners still visit? I've no idea, but I would appreciate people's opinions.
Thanks.

simon211175 said:
Hi all.
I've had my trusty Defy now for nearly 2 years, and am 4 months shy of my contract end date - but I have no idea what to replace it with.
I'm currently running Epsylon's CM9 ROM, and have always liked the ability to switch ROMs at will, so something with good ROM development is essential.
I love the size of the Defy, something which gave me little choice 2 years ago, and I'm seeing less choice now. Ideally, I'd like a small sized phone rather than a tablet wannabe, but if there isn't anything then I'm open to suggestions.
I mainly use my phone for email, surfing and video playing (YouTube mostly). I'd like something quick, as I'm impatient, but with a good battery life (my Defy's battery started well, but currently only holds charge for a few hours - I'd like a battery that won't give up before my next contract renewal).
Is this the right place to post this? Do ex-Defy owners still visit? I've no idea, but I would appreciate people's opinions.
Thanks.
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Well, I just got the Motorola Droid RaZr for a really good price. Motorola is a good brand (except for bootloader crap )
It has lots of dev, and is REALLY thin.
Hope this may help

Thanks for the reply. I quite like the razr, but it just seems like a giant compared to my defy.
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Maybe something like the Sony Xperia P or U would be something for you
They arent really big and not very expensive

And in favour for the xperia http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_s_will_get_vanilla_android_as_a_google_experiment_-news-4669.php
Although it has the same screen size as the RAZR. Plus Adam gave a thumps down in his disasambly video for the RAZR. I like the looks of the RAZR more and dislike Sony but still would want it more.

I have a razr xt910 and it's nice, but not much of an upgrade from my defy IMO. Development on Defy is actually superior IMO too. I'm actually thinking about an iphone for my next phone just to play with something different. I'm waiting for Iphone 5, if it has good voice quality microphone i'll probably get one.

just check out xperia acro s ... same as xperia s (roms are compatible) but with sdcard extension and ip57 rating

I'll go for a Galaxy S2 as soon as I'm selling my Defy. A little old but still very supported around here. And giving the prepay prices in Romania is not worth going on contract.

I've searched the internet for about one week (documenting stuff) and after that period I ended up ordering a Xperia Acro S ... black ...
Oh boy oh boy ... I can't wait to arrive
I'll keep my defy as a backup phone.

I'm tempted by the Xperia S. I hate the size, but if I want something that actually upgrades what I already have in my Defy then I'm guessing I have to move with the times. I looked at the Xperia U - it's small, and looks nice, but just doesn't feel like it offers much more. The change from Sony to put the Xperia S on to vanilla Android also seems like a great option.

Have a look on HTC One s , the screen is only a tiny bit bigger, the case itself doesn't impress as it is quite big but it seems a very good phone for the next 2 years
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If it wasnt for my Defys IP67 abilities it wouldnt have survived, so my next Android phone will have to be water resitant ( ie can survive being droppped in water ) whats out there.....
not much, there is a Sony ericsson/sony Xperia something or other, but thats not being released in the UK.

[Q] Should I keep my Xperia arc s or sell it to buy other phones?

Is it hard for Xperia arc s to catch up with other phone like samsung galaxy s2 and iphone 4s?
Should I sell it?

Wait if jb comes to arc s then you can have that no need to sell wait for sony announcement

If you think these phones will improve your mobile life,then yes, but if you want one just to be up to date then don't bother,I had an iPhone4s and capability wise its not that different to the Arc S also I felt it had a big lack of customization compared to the Arc S e.g ROMS, firmwares,themes etc
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I've just bought one so maybe not a objective adviser but that deepends what you need. For me arc s better that sgs 2. Better direct sun behavior than super amoled, almost as good camera beside 720 not 1080 recording, brighter screen, not as smooth web browsing but ok on ics, ant+ support, and half a price of sgs 2 in my carrier offer...
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if I were to sell it, I would certainly not get an iPhone!
i've been thinking of selling my arc s as work issued us with an xperia s, but now everytime i pick up my arc, i fall in love with it again (seems all the lags and cracks are easy to forget! lol), might sell it and get the xperia t so at least i can still have a reminder of the perfect shape!

This is like tryin to get to the end of a rainbow mate....
So you sell your Arc S for something newer then....... 2 months later your "upgrade" is behind again...
IMHO the Arc S is still a great fone (I have one)
If you want to freshen it up why not try one of the ICS/JB roms in the developer forum?

As above. I've had my Arc for 16 months, I chose it above the sgs2 as I believed(and still do) that the screen and looks of the Arc outweigh the performance of the s2. I've been trying to make up my mind about a new phone since February, and while I'd be lying if I said there's not much difference between my arc and an s3 it still does what I need it to do. Probably the next nexus, or even the xperia T, will push me to change.

wolfe_b said:
This is like tryin to get to the end of a rainbow mate....
So you sell your Arc S for something newer then....... 2 months later your "upgrade" is behind again...
IMHO the Arc S is still a great fone (I have one)
If you want to freshen it up why not try one of the ICS/JB roms in the developer forum?
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THIS.
Agree with you.
I was using a Nokia 5800 since 2010 and recently bought the Arc S and only because it was cheap. Only thing that are annoys me is the battery life... I' d say it's 50% less efficient in comparison with the 5800. :\

panda0 said:
THIS.
Agree with you.
I was using a Nokia 5800 since 2010 and recently bought the Arc S and only because it was cheap. Only thing that are annoys me is the battery life... I' d say it's 50% less efficient in comparison with the 5800. :\
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Yes but Android is 50% more fun than Symbian

wolfe_b said:
Yes but Android is 50% more fun than Symbian
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I like both.
But the 5800 is too old now. I tried to use it today and now I really know why they call it "puchscreen", lol.

[Q] is arc S still Best in Class !!??

i am planning to buy a new arc S tomorrow .. i wanted to ask u ppl how already using one !,
do u ppl think i should buy one at price of 17k INR.. ?? or should i go for a used 4g dual-core ph.
i dont work with too many task (multi-tasking ,,) as RAM is less, so rest other .....??
how far still arc S is competing, what all phones i can compare my arc S with ...((Defy, S2, motorla photon 4g......)) ??
thanks ..

samuraidattu said:
i am planning to buy a new arc S tomorrow .. i wanted to ask u ppl how already using one !,
do u ppl think i should buy one at price of 17k INR.. ?? or should i go for a used 4g dual-core ph.
i dont work with too many task (multi-tasking ,,) as RAM is less, so rest other .....??
how far still arc S is competing, what all phones i can compare my arc S with ...((Defy, S2, motorla photon 4g......)) ??
thanks ..
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Arc s is not too shabby to be honest. Compared to 2012 phones, it obviously doesn't perform as well with noticeably more lag. However it's performance can be boosted to a very large extent if you install a custom rom (either based on stock ICS or MIUI or something else not sure) and to a larger extent with custom kernels. The Arc s compared to 2011 phones is actually pretty good. Regarding the ones you mentioned, it's a lot better than Defy and it's not as fast as S2 and photon because of the number of cores, but in other terms such as Screen quality and camera quality, it's a lot better.
I'm sure threre's more to add

If you want a better phone it's not hard to find but you should be able these days to find an arc s at an affordable price maybe on EBay or something and it's still a good phone but I wouldn't pay much over 300 for one if I was you I would say 250 sounds about right, (250Canadian Dollars).
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samuraidattu said:
i am planning to buy a new arc S tomorrow .. i wanted to ask u ppl how already using one !,
do u ppl think i should buy one at price of 17k INR.. ?? or should i go for a used 4g dual-core ph.
i dont work with too many task (multi-tasking ,,) as RAM is less, so rest other .....??
how far still arc S is competing, what all phones i can compare my arc S with ...((Defy, S2, motorla photon 4g......)) ??
thanks ..
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I'm usin Arc lt15i(not Arc S),but i'm very pleased with it,Arc S has a better processor and i think you will like this phone,well i'm using GB,gaming,multi-tasking,recording and other stuffs works perfect,no lag at all,ICS on the other hand sucks with most games,recording,multi-tasking but hey you can use custom ROM's,it will run just fine.
Xperia Arc S looks very nice it fits very good on your hand.
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samuraidattu said:
i am planning to buy a new arc S tomorrow .. i wanted to ask u ppl how already using one !,
do u ppl think i should buy one at price of 17k INR.. ?? or should i go for a used 4g dual-core ph.
i dont work with too many task (multi-tasking ,,) as RAM is less, so rest other .....??
how far still arc S is competing, what all phones i can compare my arc S with ...((Defy, S2, motorla photon 4g......)) ??
thanks ..
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if you do not care about problems of software maintaining and its low level hardware ,arc s is a good choice

samuraidattu said:
i am planning to buy a new arc S tomorrow .. i wanted to ask u ppl how already using one !,
do u ppl think i should buy one at price of 17k INR.. ?? or should i go for a used 4g dual-core ph.
i dont work with too many task (multi-tasking ,,) as RAM is less, so rest other .....??
how far still arc S is competing, what all phones i can compare my arc S with ...((Defy, S2, motorla photon 4g......)) ??
thanks ..
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I think Arc S is a good choice for new Android users.
Except the gaming experience, it is enough for whatsapp and facebook etc.

I am from India too. I think 17k is lit bit high. Why don't you think about HTC Desire V

arc s is a bad phone, in my country galaxy nexus is only about 50 euro more expensive but it's incomparably better... If I could make my choice again, I'd definitely go for a dual core, 1gb ram phone.
also, build quality is one of the worst I've ever seen. the housing is really squeaky, damn this phone is bad.

progosu said:
also, build quality is one of the worst I've ever seen. the housing is really squeaky, damn this phone is bad.
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Are you sure that you have Xperia Arc S? Sony's phone build quality is the best.
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yulet said:
Are you sure that you have Xperia Arc S? Sony's phone build quality is the best.
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you made my day.

Don't buy this phone! I am the developer, I know what I'm saying! Arc and whole 2011 line is slow, badly-crafted and support from Sony is horrible. Don't buy anything what's not at least dual core and don't even think about Xperia T! It's good phone, but camera is laggy and materials used to produce the device are simply awful! If you want something cheaper - think of Samsung Galaxy SII. If you have some more money to spend, buy HTC One S or Desire X! Those phones have future, not like crap Xperia's.
I will never buy a phone of Sony anymore! Even if it's high-end beast.

This phone is the bad thing that could happen to me..because is a very slow device...only 512 mb ram, but only 350 available, single core, and ~400 mb internal memory, crapy cracks on sensor, low battery life....only good thing is just the sexy look, but hei this should be a smartphone not a girl.....
Overall is my mistake because I buy this, but for sure will be the last Sony phone...and believe me, I'm not a young ..but from a smartphone I want to have at least 1 gb ram and also dual-core processor...maybe Samsung Galaxy S ll...will be my choice, because I don't want a huge phone like S lll...
All the best ...

Why would you even consider purchasing this phone? Budget wouldnt even be reason enough as there are quite a number phones out there, in this price range, which are way better than the arcs. And more importantly, they'd be newer models.
Several months ago it would have been a decent buy. But right now? Why buy a dated phone with terrible specs? Imagine where you'd be in 6 months, or a year. By that time you'd be calling it Grampa Arc S.
It would no longer be worth it anymore. Get something else
Cheers
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I'm very pleased with my ARC S - In Sweden one of the best phones in its price range. Great camera, with camera button and swift system. It has good battery, 44hours~ with moderate use. But if you tweak it a little it'll last a full day and be a little bit faster. It works great, But it's not an S3, It's good, you don't actually need better. really.
the Sony Xperia GO has same CPU specs, water proof, and is cheaper. Aswell with better ROM etc (lolroot). All games I've tried games work great, subway surfer etc works flawlesly on both phones - using ICS.
(owner of both GO and ARC)
You don't need the best of the best systems for a phone. But if you really feel like it, go for an S3. You can now switch games twice as fast!
When looking for phones, I look for durability, Camera , RAM and internet speed. I personally dont have the need to have 1 million widgets, and 10's of apps open at the same time, I usually just do the same things, then close them.

maxio1998 said:
Don't buy this phone! I am the developer, I know what I'm saying! Arc and whole 2011 line is slow, badly-crafted and support from Sony is horrible. Don't buy anything what's not at least dual core and don't even think about Xperia T! It's good phone, but camera is laggy and materials used to produce the device are simply awful! If you want something cheaper - think of Samsung Galaxy SII. If you have some more money to spend, buy HTC One S or Desire X! Those phones have future, not like crap Xperia's.
I will never buy a phone of Sony anymore! Even if it's high-end beast.
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Nonsense, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the Arc S, infact its the 3rd best phone of 2011, which is why i bought it, it might not be an amazing phone when compared to the current market, but its constantly changing, the Galaxy S2 is out of date now, even if it is / was good. But your opinions just seem anti-sony.
Support from Sony is horrible? In what respect? Sony were the first 3rd party phone developers to deliver ICS to their phones outside of Googles own, they do a pretty good job of adding their own style to the OS with their own apps, and theres not much bloatware.
Granted there are some design floors with Ram and Space on the actual phone, but the whole core thing isn't much of an argument, as the phone was a september 2011 update of the original, they only updated the speed of the processor, but its not like Dual Core phones were on every phone back then, only a handful had them, and they were much more expensive.
Just because a phone is quad core doesnt make it better than a dual core, it's all relative, a lot of people are impressed by the Xperia T, and from what people said months before it was released, its dual core was faster than the Galaxy S3s Quad Core.
The benchmark for smartphones isn't high, you can achieve most of what one person needs with the cheapest of smartphones, its when you get into the realm of chasing the best games and multitasking 50 apps at a time that you need the boost, everything from 2012 on-wards is just constant polish and raising bars that don't need to be raised, to make out that somehow they need more cores n ram, till when? When somehow quad core and 2gb of ram isnt enough, then we have 6 core processors and 8gb of ram in one phone? Where do we draw the line in what is actually needed in a device thats just supposed to connect us to people. I guess Google Project Glass is the answer, as its pointless to keep adding constant power to a device that doesnt need it.

I bought my Xperia Arc S a month ago. I wouldn`t do it again. For less more money (relatively) you can get a Galaxy S2 which is a much more capable device.

stu15 said:
Nonsense, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the Arc S, infact its the 3rd best phone of 2011, which is why i bought it, it might not be an amazing phone when compared to the current market, but its constantly changing, the Galaxy S2 is out of date now, even if it is / was good. But your opinions just seem anti-sony.
Support from Sony is horrible? In what respect? Sony were the first 3rd party phone developers to deliver ICS to their phones outside of Googles own, they do a pretty good job of adding their own style to the OS with their own apps, and theres not much bloatware.
Granted there are some design floors with Ram and Space on the actual phone, but the whole core thing isn't much of an argument, as the phone was a september 2011 update of the original, they only updated the speed of the processor, but its not like Dual Core phones were on every phone back then, only a handful had them, and they were much more expensive.
Just because a phone is quad core doesnt make it better than a dual core, it's all relative, a lot of people are impressed by the Xperia T, and from what people said months before it was released, its dual core was faster than the Galaxy S3s Quad Core.
The benchmark for smartphones isn't high, you can achieve most of what one person needs with the cheapest of smartphones, its when you get into the realm of chasing the best games and multitasking 50 apps at a time that you need the boost, everything from 2012 on-wards is just constant polish and raising bars that don't need to be raised, to make out that somehow they need more cores n ram, till when? When somehow quad core and 2gb of ram isnt enough, then we have 6 core processors and 8gb of ram in one phone? Where do we draw the line in what is actually needed in a device thats just supposed to connect us to people. I guess Google Project Glass is the answer, as its pointless to keep adding constant power to a device that doesnt need it.
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Very well said My thoughts exactly. Smartphones are not just about the abundance of cores the phone has. Only a very select few of knobheads care about such novelty. As long as it can perform the tasks you need to do, it is subjectively good.
Sent from Xperia Arc S

I'll buy a phone only if it has 4 ghz hexa-core processor,12 gb of ram,10TB internal storage,5000 mAh battery,7 inches display,adreno 999 graphic driver,and 60 mpx camera....Come on peoples,what the hell is with this insanity "don't buy it if it doesn't have at least dual core and 1gb of ram"? Like someone else said,the basic function of a phone is to use it for talk,not for gaming,photoshop or programming. Can't you see that the phone evolved but the batteries are more and more weaker? Why do you need a quad-core which is last only half a day? For the OP: if you don't want a phone for gaming,but for multimedia,Arc S is a wise choice,if you want it for multitasking and games,get a Galaxy S2 or a Galaxy Nexus. PS: i have a Neo,and i'm planning to upgrade it to Xperia V.

The speed was never an issue but the lack of ram and internal storage totally ruined the arc S experience for me and it's put me off Sony devices. My wife has an Xperia S and it sucks too. Never again.
If it wasn't for the Nexus 4 I'd of bought an Acer S500 next. Unique design, amazing display, pretty much stock ICS, SD slot, removable battery, etc. For about £280. Easily rooted as well apparently.
But I got lucky and bagged a Nexus 4.
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rec71 said:
The speed was never an issue but the lack of ram and internal storage totally ruined the arc S experience for me and it's put me off Sony devices. My wife has an Xperia S and it sucks too. Never again.
If it wasn't for the Nexus 4 I'd of bought an Acer S500 next. Unique design, amazing display, pretty much stock ICS, SD slot, removable battery, etc. For about £280. Easily rooted as well apparently.
But I got lucky and bagged a Nexus 4.
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WRONG! Xperia Arc (S) wasn't a Sony device,it was a Sony Ericsson device

[Q] Xperia S or Galaxy SIII?

Hello Members of XDA,´
I am about to buy a new smartphone. So far I own a NEO and must say that until this moment I am happy with it but is time to buy a new one. For some reasons so far Sony keep satisfied me that is why I have some doubts on changing from Sony to other brand.
Now the big issue: Xperia S or Galaxy SIII?
Besides all arguments my only issues with Xperia S are:
Battery is not removable what in case of malfunction in battery I can´t replace it.
Not able to expand memory.
For me both phones cost the same so: Xperia S or Samsung Galaxy SIII?
Thanks for your help and comments.

pedrofigo said:
Hello Members of XDA,´
I am about to buy a new smartphone. So far I own a NEO and must say that until this moment I am happy with it but is time to buy a new one. For some reasons so far Sony keep satisfied me that is why I have some doubts on changing from Sony to other brand.
Now the big issue: Xperia S or Galaxy SIII?
Besides all arguments my only issues with Xperia S are:
Battery is not removable what in case of malfunction in battery I can´t replace it.
Not able to expand memory.
For me both phones cost the same so: Xperia S or Samsung Galaxy SIII?
Thanks for your help and comments.
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Hi. It depends on what you want to use the phone for. The Xperia S is more of a camera/music phone while the s3 is more of a "hacker" phone with a good processor. The s3 have a bigger screen size while the xperia s has a higher pixel density. So it's really all about preference. What do you want to get out of it?

Thanks for your reply.
I am aware of the differences between the 2 phones.
The S3 screen is very close to be to bigger to me. On the other hand the Xperia S have a nice camera and I also believe that the Xperia will handle very well all my major needs. Don´t forget I won a Xperia Neo and must say that until now Xperia Neo does everything I ask him to do so the 1.4 processor in Xperia S should be much better.
The major issue is the opportunity I have for the same price choose between S3 and Xperia S. After some days the opportunity is gone.

No problem.
I have the Xperia S and personally i would rather have the s3. But thats just me.

pedrofigo said:
Hello Members of XDA,´
I am about to buy a new smartphone. So far I own a NEO and must say that until this moment I am happy with it but is time to buy a new one. For some reasons so far Sony keep satisfied me that is why I have some doubts on changing from Sony to other brand.
Now the big issue: Xperia S or Galaxy SIII?
Besides all arguments my only issues with Xperia S are:
Battery is not removable what in case of malfunction in battery I can´t replace it.
Not able to expand memory.
For me both phones cost the same so: Xperia S or Samsung Galaxy SIII?
Thanks for your help and comments.
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The battery is actually pretty easy to take out, you just have to remove a few screws and it will void your guarantee.
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Sv: [Q] Xperia S or Galaxy SIII?
I would say S3. Not due to the nice plastic design, but due to bigger screen, faster updates and just better spec in general.
The S3 can still take some decent pictures and still got sd card and a battery you can replace.
Somewhere around..

For me S3 will cost only 210€. This a promotion from my operator.
Xperia S cost 230€.

S3 has stronger battery and faster update.
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Sv: [Q] Xperia S or Galaxy SIII?
pedrofigo said:
For me S3 will cost only 210€. This a promotion from my operator.
Xperia S cost 230€.
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S3 without questioning..
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I Love my xperia... But If cost is same I'd suggest s3... More development, support, hardware, difference in camera isn't that much to justify reason to bend xperia's way.. Having said that I prefer xperia s build... The s3 feels fragile and less like a piece of hardware.
Just my opinion...
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This is really a no-brainer. If design is not more important to you, than S3 all the way.

I own the Xperia acro S, but if I were you I'd rather get the S3, my dad has one and I tried it, it was really great and smooth!
S3 because:
- More developers means more ROMs, kernels, hacks, etc.
- Better chipset, quad core CPU and quad core Mali GPU for ultimate gaming experience. I played my dad's S3 and it was very smooth, Asphalt 7 was flawless! My Xperia runs Asphalt like sh*t!
- Better screen, I know Super AMOLEDs are oversaturated, but hey, according to my experience, it was great! IMAGES WERE SO SHARP AND CRISP!
BUT if you're not a gamer, you're just a normal man who wants a stylish cameraphone, go for the Xperia S.
But man seriously, buy the Xperia Z! Or stay with your current device first, save money, then wait for Sony's next flagship with Snapdragon 600 chipset, or wait for official release of HTC One or Galaxy S4
That's all I can say, good luck man!

yw2012 said:
S3 has stronger battery and faster update.
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S3 a faster update and XS don't have update!!!! Sony forget people... spend your money for nothing!!!

hellonasty said:
S3 a faster update and XS don't have update!!!! Sony forget people... spend your money for nothing!!!
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Where u get that information? Bcoz sony already announce XS, XGo and XSL will get JB in the end of March..
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Easy: S3
And if Xperia has locked bootloader... Don't even think about it.
My opinion.
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I really appreciate all your comments.
After almost 2 years with my Xperia Neo just ordered my Galaxy SIII…was really tending to Xperia S but…
Just hope I don´t regret my choice because after all this time with my Xperia Neo I must say it was the best phone I had.
Thank you all

Which Quad/Dual Core device is the best?

Hi guys.. I am planning to sell my phone.. I am just confused on which phone to buy.. Xperia Z, Nexus 4, Xperia SP, Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini, HTC One Mini, Sony Xperia Z1 Mini.. Or should i just go with iPhone 5?I can't afford to buy flagships.. Budget isn't that great, nor worst.. :silly: But any suggestions??

sudhindrakv said:
Hi guys.. I am planning to sell my phone.. I am just confused on which phone to buy.. Xperia Z, Nexus 4, Xperia SP, Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini, HTC One Mini, Sony Xperia Z1 Mini.. Or should i just go with iPhone 5?I can't afford to buy flagships.. Budget isn't that great, nor worst.. :silly: But any suggestions??
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Z1 mini is the best out of the above, but not the best price of course.
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monivan said:
Z1 mini is the best out of the above, but not the best price of course.
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Of course.. But since Z1 mini or Z1 S isn't out yet, lets omit it..

Lg optimus g (the at&t version) gives good bang for buck. I got mine for $180 on ebay. I miss my ions camera and sony launcher but this phone performs rather well.
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luisoman2000 said:
Lg optimus g (the at&t version) gives good bang for buck. I got mine for $180 on ebay. I miss my ions camera and sony launcher but this phone performs rather well.
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Carrier locked device? Hardly.. Coz i live in India.. Here none of the phones are carrier locked.. May be very few in the past.. But LG Optimus G looks pretty good, but s/w wise its pretty dull.. I mean UI and other stuff..
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sudhindrakv said:
Carrier locked device? Hardly.. Coz i live in India.. Here none of the phones are carrier locked.. May be very few in the past.. But LG Optimus G looks pretty good, but s/w wise its pretty dull.. I mean UI and other stuff..
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I actually bought 2 of these, one for my mom and one for me. Mine was carrier locked and the unlock code costed me $2, my moms phone came already unlocked from the seller. I'm using mine in honduras (central america).Sure, UI is not as great as sony's but there are a few roms out there with stock lg UI as well as 4.3 and 4.4 roms. I'm using nocturnal rom(discontinued unfortunately) which is stock LG UI with the sony walkman, movies and gallery app. I like some of the LG tricks though like qslide(which lets you keep watching a video and use the phone's other functions) and quicknote. Unlocking the bootloader was easy with freegee(downloaded it from play store).

My suggestion is xperia z bcoz have good development from good developer
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gravtec said:
My suggestion is xperia z bcoz have good development from good developer
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I would have loved to get a z or zl, but the steep $400 plus pricetag for it was waaaaaay above my budget.
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gravtec said:
My suggestion is xperia z bcoz have good development from good developer
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Yes so have i thought about getting it.. Since it has official cm support and it will have the same for 3 mpre years atleast because of the h/w.. And devs like niaboc79, zeroimfinity and others make it look like a cool phone.. And also its within my budget.. So probably it is the one.. On other hand, i am thinking of Nexus4.. :/
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sudhindrakv said:
Yes so have i thought about getting it.. Since it has official cm support and it will have the same for 3 mpre years atleast because of the h/w.. And devs like niaboc79, zeroimfinity and others make it look like a cool phone.. And also its within my budget.. So probably it is the one.. On other hand, i am thinking of Nexus4.. :/
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Why Nexus 4 and not the Nexus 5? I think the Nexus 5 would be the best device for you if it fits your price. Otherwise wait for the Moto G, it's getting launched in India in January 2014. Both these devices are the best value for money you can get.

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exzibit7 said:
Why Nexus 4 and not the Nexus 5? I think the Nexus 5 would be the best device for you if it fits your price. Otherwise wait for the Moto G, it's getting launched in India in January 2014. Both these devices are the best value for money you can get.
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Nexus devices are boring UI.. I agree they are the best devices in the market.. But what's a Smartphone without some cool stock features.. I would definitely miss Sony's UI, Media apps and Camera.. And obviously music quality.. And also the look of the phone.. Although u can get all kinds of MODs, but they never are the same.. Xperia Z suits all my needs.. Its waterproof, quad core and 2gb ram, official support for 1 more year atleast, official cm support, official cwm support, lots of awesome devs, mods and cool features the phone exclusively provides.. U don't need anything else for another 2 years.. That's an awesome device.. Although on the other hand, Nexus 4 is cheap and good quality device.. Nexus 5 also is worth buying.. But i may have to skip Nexus and just go with Xperia Z..

its depend on what you looking for on the phone ,, i would suggest HTC one .. or Nexus 5
but if you gonna replace your phone why not to save more money and keep the Xperia S for another months and get a High level phone ,, like Z1 or G2

sparxx4 said:
its depend on what you looking for on the phone ,, i would suggest HTC one .. or Nexus 5
but if you gonna replace your phone why not to save more money and keep the Xperia S for another months and get a High level phone ,, like Z1 or G2
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I would stick with XS and buy a decent flagship a couple years later. Seriously, the only thing that is very different with the XS and the Galaxy S4 my girl uses is the battery life. XS is the same fast in UI as the S4, has comparable camera performance and in only very heavy 3D games you can see a difference. I don't mind the bigger screen, newer android edition, IR and the slimmer form factor at all. But S4 has roughly TWICE the battery life. 4.4.2 on GS4 is much less stable than on XS, with random reboots.
Don't mind if there are more roms for other phones. Our roms might be few in numbers but are all good.

lordoftheriffs said:
I would stick with XS and buy a decent flagship a couple years later. Seriously, the only thing that is very different with the XS and the Galaxy S4 my girl uses is the battery life. XS is the same fast in UI as the S4, has comparable camera performance and in only very heavy 3D games you can see a difference. I don't mind the bigger screen, newer android edition, IR and the slimmer form factor at all. But S4 has roughly TWICE the battery life. 4.4.2 on GS4 is much less stable than on XS, with random reboots.
Don't mind if there are more roms for other phones. Our roms might be few in numbers but are all good.
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On the other hand, Android 4.3 is a lot more stable on the Galaxy S4. And the memory is a big difference as well, 2GB for Galaxy S4, don't know how much of that is available for multitasking, but it will be at least 1GB more than what we have. I can barely multitask with my Xperia S. It's also a popular phone so there are lots of accessories. And it will get an official Android 4.4 ROM so the CM ROM might be less stable now, but in time it will always be more functional than what we will have. And it supports 4G, I think most people don't have 4G in their dataplan yet, but I do since recently (I don't have to pay anything extra for it either) and it's kind of bugging me that I can't use it.
If you're suggesting to stick with this phone for more years when it's already nearly 2 years old, I'm thinking you don't really care about speed in a phone. That's good for you I guess, but other people don't have that patience. And 2 years is a good age I think, also as you say battery life has nearly doubled in the last years and that's the most maddening thing about this phone.
@sudhindrakv: I think it's rather odd that you like the Xperia Z because of the CM support, but on the other hand want a phone with OEM-specific features. If you're going to use CM on it, you won't use those features anyway. In my opinion you should get a Nexus, I see you hanging around in the CM11 thread anyway. A lot of features can be ported to AOSP ROMs anyway, like the Sony media apps.

Redstarr1 said:
On the other hand, Android 4.3 is a lot more stable on the Galaxy S4. And the memory is a big difference as well, 2GB for Galaxy S4, don't know how much of that is available for multitasking, but it will be at least 1GB more than what we have. I can barely multitask with my Xperia S. It's also a popular phone so there are lots of accessories. And it will get an official Android 4.4 ROM so the CM ROM might be less stable now, but in time it will always be more functional than what we will have. And it supports 4G, I think most people don't have 4G in their dataplan yet, but I do since recently (I don't have to pay anything extra for it either) and it's kind of bugging me that I can't use it.
If you're suggesting to stick with this phone for more years when it's already nearly 2 years old, I'm thinking you don't really care about speed in a phone. That's good for you I guess, but other people don't have that patience. And 2 years is a good age I think, also as you say battery life has nearly doubled in the last years and that's the most maddening thing about this phone.
@sudhindrakv: I think it's rather odd that you like the Xperia Z because of the CM support, but on the other hand want a phone with OEM-specific features. If you're going to use CM on it, you won't use those features anyway. In my opinion you should get a Nexus, I see you hanging around in the CM11 thread anyway. A lot of features can be ported to AOSP ROMs anyway, like the Sony media apps.
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Well, 4G is not available in greece either, and according to what I read, it kills the battery, while hspa is already fast enough. I don't see much difference between 4.1 and 4.3 anyways, apart from lockscreen widgets. You are right about multitasking, though in XS it kills useless apps first.
S4 has 780 mb free ram. Our CM11 will evetually get stable too. Just my points.

Redstarr1 said:
On the other hand, Android 4.3 is a lot more stable on the Galaxy S4. And the memory is a big difference as well, 2GB for Galaxy S4, don't know how much of that is available for multitasking, but it will be at least 1GB more than what we have. I can barely multitask with my Xperia S. It's also a popular phone so there are lots of accessories. And it will get an official Android 4.4 ROM so the CM ROM might be less stable now, but in time it will always be more functional than what we will have. And it supports 4G, I think most people don't have 4G in their dataplan yet, but I do since recently (I don't have to pay anything extra for it either) and it's kind of bugging me that I can't use it.
If you're suggesting to stick with this phone for more years when it's already nearly 2 years old, I'm thinking you don't really care about speed in a phone. That's good for you I guess, but other people don't have that patience. And 2 years is a good age I think, also as you say battery life has nearly doubled in the last years and that's the most maddening thing about this phone.
@sudhindrakv: I think it's rather odd that you like the Xperia Z because of the CM support, but on the other hand want a phone with OEM-specific features. If you're going to use CM on it, you won't use those features anyway. In my opinion you should get a Nexus, I see you hanging around in the CM11 thread anyway. A lot of features can be ported to AOSP ROMs anyway, like the Sony media apps.
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No no.. What i meant was OEM specific features are my favourite.. Stock SONY is what i love the most.. I mentioned CM support because after your 2years company support ends, atleast you will have some support from development.. That's why i mentioned.. About CM11, its the only ROM i tested after eXistenZ.. Not into much testing lately, got bigger plans.. Building one myself..

lordoftheriffs said:
Well, 4G is not available in greece either, and according to what I read, it kills the battery, while hspa is already fast enough. I don't see much difference between 4.1 and 4.3 anyways, apart from lockscreen widgets. You are right about multitasking, though in XS it kills useless apps first.
S4 has 780 mb free ram. Our CM11 will evetually get stable too. Just my points.
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It seriously only has 780 MB RAM free of the initial 2GB? I know free RAM is wasted RAM, but that's just sad. This is why I never recommend Samsung.
There are some differences under the hood between 4.1 and 4.3, like Bluetooth 4.0 support (uses a lot less battery) and OpenGL. Our CM11 will get kind of stable, I'm just going to install it now by the way, but the available amount of RAM will just keep shrinking as Rayman needs to assign more for every new version of Android it seems (has to do with ION and no proper drivers, if less RAM is assigned it'll bootloop).
And about 4G, it depends on the frequency, but if the 800MHz band is used, 4G should use less power than 3G. In my country it's still only the 1800MHz band though.

Redstarr1 said:
It seriously only has 780 MB RAM free of the initial 2GB? I know free RAM is wasted RAM, but that's just sad. This is why I never recommend Samsung.
There are some differences under the hood between 4.1 and 4.3, like Bluetooth 4.0 support (uses a lot less battery) and OpenGL. Our CM11 will get kind of stable, I'm just going to install it now by the way, but the available amount of RAM will just keep shrinking as Rayman needs to assign more for every new version of Android it seems (has to do with ION and no proper drivers, if less RAM is assigned it'll bootloop).
And about 4G, it depends on the frequency, but if the 800MHz band is used, 4G should use less power than 3G. In my country it's still only the 1800MHz band though.
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Yes.. I agree.. but 4g not yet so popular in India.. its only for rich people.. Even 3g plans are costly around here.. The only thing stopping me from thinking of buying Xperia Z is its already an year old. Another year and its completely gone.. It s gonna be a dead phone without sony support and probably devs would leave that phone and get some new one by that time.. It will be same like having Xperia S now.. Very few devs are here working for our device.. Its gonna be the same there too..
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