i am planning to buy a new arc S tomorrow .. i wanted to ask u ppl how already using one !,
do u ppl think i should buy one at price of 17k INR.. ?? or should i go for a used 4g dual-core ph.
i dont work with too many task (multi-tasking ,,) as RAM is less, so rest other .....??
how far still arc S is competing, what all phones i can compare my arc S with ...((Defy, S2, motorla photon 4g......)) ??
thanks ..
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i am planning to buy a new arc S tomorrow .. i wanted to ask u ppl how already using one !,
do u ppl think i should buy one at price of 17k INR.. ?? or should i go for a used 4g dual-core ph.
i dont work with too many task (multi-tasking ,,) as RAM is less, so rest other .....??
how far still arc S is competing, what all phones i can compare my arc S with ...((Defy, S2, motorla photon 4g......)) ??
thanks ..
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Arc s is not too shabby to be honest. Compared to 2012 phones, it obviously doesn't perform as well with noticeably more lag. However it's performance can be boosted to a very large extent if you install a custom rom (either based on stock ICS or MIUI or something else not sure) and to a larger extent with custom kernels. The Arc s compared to 2011 phones is actually pretty good. Regarding the ones you mentioned, it's a lot better than Defy and it's not as fast as S2 and photon because of the number of cores, but in other terms such as Screen quality and camera quality, it's a lot better.
I'm sure threre's more to add
If you want a better phone it's not hard to find but you should be able these days to find an arc s at an affordable price maybe on EBay or something and it's still a good phone but I wouldn't pay much over 300 for one if I was you I would say 250 sounds about right, (250Canadian Dollars).
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samuraidattu said:
i am planning to buy a new arc S tomorrow .. i wanted to ask u ppl how already using one !,
do u ppl think i should buy one at price of 17k INR.. ?? or should i go for a used 4g dual-core ph.
i dont work with too many task (multi-tasking ,,) as RAM is less, so rest other .....??
how far still arc S is competing, what all phones i can compare my arc S with ...((Defy, S2, motorla photon 4g......)) ??
thanks ..
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I'm usin Arc lt15i(not Arc S),but i'm very pleased with it,Arc S has a better processor and i think you will like this phone,well i'm using GB,gaming,multi-tasking,recording and other stuffs works perfect,no lag at all,ICS on the other hand sucks with most games,recording,multi-tasking but hey you can use custom ROM's,it will run just fine.
Xperia Arc S looks very nice it fits very good on your hand.
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samuraidattu said:
i am planning to buy a new arc S tomorrow .. i wanted to ask u ppl how already using one !,
do u ppl think i should buy one at price of 17k INR.. ?? or should i go for a used 4g dual-core ph.
i dont work with too many task (multi-tasking ,,) as RAM is less, so rest other .....??
how far still arc S is competing, what all phones i can compare my arc S with ...((Defy, S2, motorla photon 4g......)) ??
thanks ..
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if you do not care about problems of software maintaining and its low level hardware ,arc s is a good choice
samuraidattu said:
i am planning to buy a new arc S tomorrow .. i wanted to ask u ppl how already using one !,
do u ppl think i should buy one at price of 17k INR.. ?? or should i go for a used 4g dual-core ph.
i dont work with too many task (multi-tasking ,,) as RAM is less, so rest other .....??
how far still arc S is competing, what all phones i can compare my arc S with ...((Defy, S2, motorla photon 4g......)) ??
thanks ..
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I think Arc S is a good choice for new Android users.
Except the gaming experience, it is enough for whatsapp and facebook etc.
I am from India too. I think 17k is lit bit high. Why don't you think about HTC Desire V
arc s is a bad phone, in my country galaxy nexus is only about 50 euro more expensive but it's incomparably better... If I could make my choice again, I'd definitely go for a dual core, 1gb ram phone.
also, build quality is one of the worst I've ever seen. the housing is really squeaky, damn this phone is bad.
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also, build quality is one of the worst I've ever seen. the housing is really squeaky, damn this phone is bad.
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Are you sure that you have Xperia Arc S? Sony's phone build quality is the best.
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yulet said:
Are you sure that you have Xperia Arc S? Sony's phone build quality is the best.
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you made my day.
Don't buy this phone! I am the developer, I know what I'm saying! Arc and whole 2011 line is slow, badly-crafted and support from Sony is horrible. Don't buy anything what's not at least dual core and don't even think about Xperia T! It's good phone, but camera is laggy and materials used to produce the device are simply awful! If you want something cheaper - think of Samsung Galaxy SII. If you have some more money to spend, buy HTC One S or Desire X! Those phones have future, not like crap Xperia's.
I will never buy a phone of Sony anymore! Even if it's high-end beast.
This phone is the bad thing that could happen to me..because is a very slow device...only 512 mb ram, but only 350 available, single core, and ~400 mb internal memory, crapy cracks on sensor, low battery life....only good thing is just the sexy look, but hei this should be a smartphone not a girl.....
Overall is my mistake because I buy this, but for sure will be the last Sony phone...and believe me, I'm not a young ..but from a smartphone I want to have at least 1 gb ram and also dual-core processor...maybe Samsung Galaxy S ll...will be my choice, because I don't want a huge phone like S lll...
All the best ...
Why would you even consider purchasing this phone? Budget wouldnt even be reason enough as there are quite a number phones out there, in this price range, which are way better than the arcs. And more importantly, they'd be newer models.
Several months ago it would have been a decent buy. But right now? Why buy a dated phone with terrible specs? Imagine where you'd be in 6 months, or a year. By that time you'd be calling it Grampa Arc S.
It would no longer be worth it anymore. Get something else
Cheers
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I'm very pleased with my ARC S - In Sweden one of the best phones in its price range. Great camera, with camera button and swift system. It has good battery, 44hours~ with moderate use. But if you tweak it a little it'll last a full day and be a little bit faster. It works great, But it's not an S3, It's good, you don't actually need better. really.
the Sony Xperia GO has same CPU specs, water proof, and is cheaper. Aswell with better ROM etc (lolroot). All games I've tried games work great, subway surfer etc works flawlesly on both phones - using ICS.
(owner of both GO and ARC)
You don't need the best of the best systems for a phone. But if you really feel like it, go for an S3. You can now switch games twice as fast!
When looking for phones, I look for durability, Camera , RAM and internet speed. I personally dont have the need to have 1 million widgets, and 10's of apps open at the same time, I usually just do the same things, then close them.
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Don't buy this phone! I am the developer, I know what I'm saying! Arc and whole 2011 line is slow, badly-crafted and support from Sony is horrible. Don't buy anything what's not at least dual core and don't even think about Xperia T! It's good phone, but camera is laggy and materials used to produce the device are simply awful! If you want something cheaper - think of Samsung Galaxy SII. If you have some more money to spend, buy HTC One S or Desire X! Those phones have future, not like crap Xperia's.
I will never buy a phone of Sony anymore! Even if it's high-end beast.
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Nonsense, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the Arc S, infact its the 3rd best phone of 2011, which is why i bought it, it might not be an amazing phone when compared to the current market, but its constantly changing, the Galaxy S2 is out of date now, even if it is / was good. But your opinions just seem anti-sony.
Support from Sony is horrible? In what respect? Sony were the first 3rd party phone developers to deliver ICS to their phones outside of Googles own, they do a pretty good job of adding their own style to the OS with their own apps, and theres not much bloatware.
Granted there are some design floors with Ram and Space on the actual phone, but the whole core thing isn't much of an argument, as the phone was a september 2011 update of the original, they only updated the speed of the processor, but its not like Dual Core phones were on every phone back then, only a handful had them, and they were much more expensive.
Just because a phone is quad core doesnt make it better than a dual core, it's all relative, a lot of people are impressed by the Xperia T, and from what people said months before it was released, its dual core was faster than the Galaxy S3s Quad Core.
The benchmark for smartphones isn't high, you can achieve most of what one person needs with the cheapest of smartphones, its when you get into the realm of chasing the best games and multitasking 50 apps at a time that you need the boost, everything from 2012 on-wards is just constant polish and raising bars that don't need to be raised, to make out that somehow they need more cores n ram, till when? When somehow quad core and 2gb of ram isnt enough, then we have 6 core processors and 8gb of ram in one phone? Where do we draw the line in what is actually needed in a device thats just supposed to connect us to people. I guess Google Project Glass is the answer, as its pointless to keep adding constant power to a device that doesnt need it.
I bought my Xperia Arc S a month ago. I wouldn`t do it again. For less more money (relatively) you can get a Galaxy S2 which is a much more capable device.
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Nonsense, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the Arc S, infact its the 3rd best phone of 2011, which is why i bought it, it might not be an amazing phone when compared to the current market, but its constantly changing, the Galaxy S2 is out of date now, even if it is / was good. But your opinions just seem anti-sony.
Support from Sony is horrible? In what respect? Sony were the first 3rd party phone developers to deliver ICS to their phones outside of Googles own, they do a pretty good job of adding their own style to the OS with their own apps, and theres not much bloatware.
Granted there are some design floors with Ram and Space on the actual phone, but the whole core thing isn't much of an argument, as the phone was a september 2011 update of the original, they only updated the speed of the processor, but its not like Dual Core phones were on every phone back then, only a handful had them, and they were much more expensive.
Just because a phone is quad core doesnt make it better than a dual core, it's all relative, a lot of people are impressed by the Xperia T, and from what people said months before it was released, its dual core was faster than the Galaxy S3s Quad Core.
The benchmark for smartphones isn't high, you can achieve most of what one person needs with the cheapest of smartphones, its when you get into the realm of chasing the best games and multitasking 50 apps at a time that you need the boost, everything from 2012 on-wards is just constant polish and raising bars that don't need to be raised, to make out that somehow they need more cores n ram, till when? When somehow quad core and 2gb of ram isnt enough, then we have 6 core processors and 8gb of ram in one phone? Where do we draw the line in what is actually needed in a device thats just supposed to connect us to people. I guess Google Project Glass is the answer, as its pointless to keep adding constant power to a device that doesnt need it.
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Very well said My thoughts exactly. Smartphones are not just about the abundance of cores the phone has. Only a very select few of knobheads care about such novelty. As long as it can perform the tasks you need to do, it is subjectively good.
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I'll buy a phone only if it has 4 ghz hexa-core processor,12 gb of ram,10TB internal storage,5000 mAh battery,7 inches display,adreno 999 graphic driver,and 60 mpx camera....Come on peoples,what the hell is with this insanity "don't buy it if it doesn't have at least dual core and 1gb of ram"? Like someone else said,the basic function of a phone is to use it for talk,not for gaming,photoshop or programming. Can't you see that the phone evolved but the batteries are more and more weaker? Why do you need a quad-core which is last only half a day? For the OP: if you don't want a phone for gaming,but for multimedia,Arc S is a wise choice,if you want it for multitasking and games,get a Galaxy S2 or a Galaxy Nexus. PS: i have a Neo,and i'm planning to upgrade it to Xperia V.
The speed was never an issue but the lack of ram and internal storage totally ruined the arc S experience for me and it's put me off Sony devices. My wife has an Xperia S and it sucks too. Never again.
If it wasn't for the Nexus 4 I'd of bought an Acer S500 next. Unique design, amazing display, pretty much stock ICS, SD slot, removable battery, etc. For about £280. Easily rooted as well apparently.
But I got lucky and bagged a Nexus 4.
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rec71 said:
The speed was never an issue but the lack of ram and internal storage totally ruined the arc S experience for me and it's put me off Sony devices. My wife has an Xperia S and it sucks too. Never again.
If it wasn't for the Nexus 4 I'd of bought an Acer S500 next. Unique design, amazing display, pretty much stock ICS, SD slot, removable battery, etc. For about £280. Easily rooted as well apparently.
But I got lucky and bagged a Nexus 4.
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WRONG! Xperia Arc (S) wasn't a Sony device,it was a Sony Ericsson device
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Now that its been out a bit do you still love the Arc or wish you bought something else?
I am getting my new phone tomorrow finally, going to stomp into Rogers and pick it up cash...but I am still STILL stuck : /
I am trying to decide between the Xperia Arc, Xperia Play, and Nexus S...
So you guys still happy with the Arc? I am leaning towards the Arc the most but don't want another x10 mistake : (
Thanks
Happy, happy, happy.
Don't regret it at all, only thing I find annoying is the massive amount of Bloatware... but that could easily be sorted out if I wasn't just too lazy to work myself through the root thread.
That depends? What kind of phone did you have before? And make sure you update to2.3.3 or you wont be happy
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That depends? What kind of phone did you have before? And make sure you update to3.3.3 or you wont be happy
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Samsung Captivate.
Oh I should say that I plan on keeping the device stock.
I have the Arc since the beginning of May and I'm really happy with my Arc.
gunstar3035 said:
Samsung Captivate.
Oh I should say that I plan on keeping the device stock.
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I had the Captivate before. Still like it more than the arc. Loved the feel of the device, felt solid (the arc feels cheap at first since it way lighter and the back cover is made of plastic) and of course, the S-AMOLED is beautiful, no matter what some fanboys here have to say.
Still, the arc is a performing device, a sexy one at that and very comfortable to use. The Exmor camera is sick and the screen displays real, beautiful colors.
By the way, Rogers apparently announced they will have the Infuse 4G so you might want to add that device on your list.
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I'm still happy with my arc. It is still the best branded android phone in the market in my point of view.
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Oh I am sorry, you don't like threads on a forum? LMFAO
Anyways other than the asshat I quoted, THANK YOU for all the input and insight guys. I have a day to think about this still but you've helped a lot, so thank you
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Samsung Captivate.
Oh I should say that I plan on keeping the device stock.
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That is fine keep it stock rooting and you may brick your phone! But you should look and make sure that you will be happy look on you tube and see what is out there? If your looking for battery life look into htc sensation or galaxy s 2
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I come from an iPhone 2 ( yep the first one ) and LOVE my ARC. I have fun playing with all the apps, moding the themes, it's sexy, looks nioce, works well.
I love the Arc. Haven't regretted it for one second. Still I can't compare to the other devices. For me it's fast, the screen is beautiful. I can't get enough of it.
First few days the battery didn't last long but now I easily get through the day.
Love my Arc. Also before the 2.3.3 update. ;-)
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Totally great phone. In almost every aspect.
Seeing as I swapped a samsung galaxy s for my arc I'm very pleased with it ;-)
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I'm still very happy with my Arc. Now that we have custom kernels and the work on cm7 really has begun, it gets even better. I admit the battery cover isnt the best out there (very glitchy, fingerprint magnet, sometimes squeaks), but thats about it. It's snappy, it's beauitiful, except the battery cover well made, it has a gorgeous screen...
I'll chip in; very happy with the Arc. In my work I get to play with everything O2 sells and what did it for me with the Arc is the blend of it looking and feeling very smart to use, having a great camera and Sony Ericsson's committment to supporting it and keeping it up to date.
Back to back with the Galaxy S II, the Arc is less responsive, but has fewer battery chewing bugs*. Realistically**, the S II's biggest advantage over the Arc isn't the processor or internal RAM, but the onboard storage, meaning users don't need to buy a memory card for 12 Gb or so of space for media.
*in my experience and readers may vary.
**I know, I know, I'm a geek by trade but I'd get bored of justifying the S II by talking about dual core processors and 800+ Mb of program memory...
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I'll chip in; very happy with the Arc. In my work I get to play with everything O2 sells and what did it for me with the Arc is the blend of it looking and feeling very smart to use, having a great camera and Sony Ericsson's committment to supporting it and keeping it up to date.
Back to back with the Galaxy S II, the Arc is less responsive, but has fewer battery chewing bugs*. Realistically**, the S II's biggest advantage over the Arc isn't the processor or internal RAM, but the onboard storage, meaning users don't need to buy a memory card for 12 Gb or so of space for media.
*in my experience and readers may vary.
**I know, I know, I'm a geek by trade but I'd get bored of justifying the S II by talking about dual core processors and 800+ Mb of program memory...
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nice commentary.
had the arc sins launch. and i love it.... nuff said
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aint the s2 dual core just too 500 cores? it aint 2 1ghz cores is it??
and is there really any point in dual core? are any of the apps even coded to make use of 2 cores?
if i right now had to choose the arc or s2 damn its a hard one..... on paper...... it would have to be the s2............ but there so so close the only way to really pick is to have a proper play around with them.....
there both around the same price 500 pound so go in the shop and tell them you would like to see and have a good play with both phones 500 pound is alot of money for a phone make sure you pick the right one for you
ps..... watch for the back of the s2 ( bat cover its proper crap) its about as thick as a hair
Admitted SE loyalist who was persuaded to stay on board after X10 debacle by SE's new found commitment to upgrade more expeditiously.
Bought Arc at launch in NA and am very happy with the device in all respects.
Is it hard for Xperia arc s to catch up with other phone like samsung galaxy s2 and iphone 4s?
Should I sell it?
Wait if jb comes to arc s then you can have that no need to sell wait for sony announcement
If you think these phones will improve your mobile life,then yes, but if you want one just to be up to date then don't bother,I had an iPhone4s and capability wise its not that different to the Arc S also I felt it had a big lack of customization compared to the Arc S e.g ROMS, firmwares,themes etc
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I've just bought one so maybe not a objective adviser but that deepends what you need. For me arc s better that sgs 2. Better direct sun behavior than super amoled, almost as good camera beside 720 not 1080 recording, brighter screen, not as smooth web browsing but ok on ics, ant+ support, and half a price of sgs 2 in my carrier offer...
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if I were to sell it, I would certainly not get an iPhone!
i've been thinking of selling my arc s as work issued us with an xperia s, but now everytime i pick up my arc, i fall in love with it again (seems all the lags and cracks are easy to forget! lol), might sell it and get the xperia t so at least i can still have a reminder of the perfect shape!
This is like tryin to get to the end of a rainbow mate....
So you sell your Arc S for something newer then....... 2 months later your "upgrade" is behind again...
IMHO the Arc S is still a great fone (I have one)
If you want to freshen it up why not try one of the ICS/JB roms in the developer forum?
As above. I've had my Arc for 16 months, I chose it above the sgs2 as I believed(and still do) that the screen and looks of the Arc outweigh the performance of the s2. I've been trying to make up my mind about a new phone since February, and while I'd be lying if I said there's not much difference between my arc and an s3 it still does what I need it to do. Probably the next nexus, or even the xperia T, will push me to change.
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This is like tryin to get to the end of a rainbow mate....
So you sell your Arc S for something newer then....... 2 months later your "upgrade" is behind again...
IMHO the Arc S is still a great fone (I have one)
If you want to freshen it up why not try one of the ICS/JB roms in the developer forum?
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THIS.
Agree with you.
I was using a Nokia 5800 since 2010 and recently bought the Arc S and only because it was cheap. Only thing that are annoys me is the battery life... I' d say it's 50% less efficient in comparison with the 5800. :\
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THIS.
Agree with you.
I was using a Nokia 5800 since 2010 and recently bought the Arc S and only because it was cheap. Only thing that are annoys me is the battery life... I' d say it's 50% less efficient in comparison with the 5800. :\
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Yes but Android is 50% more fun than Symbian
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Yes but Android is 50% more fun than Symbian
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I like both.
But the 5800 is too old now. I tried to use it today and now I really know why they call it "puchscreen", lol.
Hey, as you probably know I want to buy a new phone. I was thinking about GS3, One X and Optimus 4x HD. Xperia T appeared and everyone say it's awesome, and maybe it in fact is (13 MPX, omfg), but there are some things which I am afraid about. Firsty: dual core CPU. People say that it's faster than quad core CPUs. Sorry, but I don't believe it. I mean - how the hell two cores more and more advanced technology can be beaten by dual-core CPUs? I have Intel I3 dual core and Intel I5 quad core in my PC and difference is HUUUUGE. I know that PCs and smartphones are in fact two worlds, but... LOGIC! The second thing which makes me Xperia T unlike are software buttons. The screen has 4,6 inch, with buttons it's smaller. One X, GS3 have 4,7-4,8 without buttons! When I test on screen buttons on my arc S I simply hate it. It takes so much place from the screen... Just unusable.
OK, so please tell me your opinions about Xperia T. And don't say something like "OMG, XPERIA T HAS 4444 POINTS IN BENCHMARK AND GS3 HAS 4443, IT'S MUCH BETTER!". For me benchmarks aren't really important - just pleasure and comfort of using smartphone. For example - Xperia arc S gets crappy benchmark scores on ICS, but with good ROM it's awesome.
BTW, what do you think about LG Optimus 4x HD? It's horribly tempting by its price and people in my country (Poland) say in net-reviews that's much better than One X and GS3. LOL. Possible? I have always thought that LG means just... Well... Simply, sh*t.
I dont know about performances but sgs3 is the best in my oppinion here. Funny thing is that in my country you cant buy only phone, you have to use predefined scheme of operator with package that would cost you 5 times more than phone.
I even bought Arc S in the "grey zone". Funny thing is that you cant even find XPERIA T in my country, and The only possibilities are HTC and sgs3. In my country on "grey market", sgs3 is about 700-800 euros which is a lot of money. Others i dont know...
*They are not wrong, FAST can be subjective to raw speed performance and/or multi-tasking power.
At the same frequency clock, Snapdragon S4 should outperform the Tegra 3 or Exynos Quad in a single-core scenario.
Cortex-A9
Tegra 3 (One X, 4X HD)
Exynos Quad (Galaxy S 3 International)
Scorpion
Snapdragon S2 (Arc, Arc S, Play)
Snapdragon S3 (Xperia S)
Krait
Snapdragon S4 (Xperia T, Galaxy S 3 LTE)
Compare DIMPS per MHz (Higher = Better)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krait_(CPU)
Try applying AMD FX-8150 vs Intel i5-3570k/2500k to this environment.
More cores does not generally means better, but in the smartphone world, it's more-likely a mirror to that for the moment.
Uhm, i have used one x before, it's not as good as SGS3 and FRAGILE!!!
my one x had been broken
The best mobile i think u should buy is Sgs 3 Korean edition!!!! More powerful than international SGS3
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CarrotAk23 said:
Uhm, i have used one x before, it's not as good as SGS3 and FRAGILE!!!
my one x had been broken
The best mobile i think u should buy is Sgs 3 Korean edition!!!! More powerful than international SGS3
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Oh well, I'm from Europe, and not going to travel to Korea in nearest time
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*They are not wrong, FAST can be subjective to raw speed performance and/or multi-tasking power.
At the same frequency clock, Snapdragon S4 should outperform the Tegra 3 or Exynos Quad in a single-core scenario.
Cortex-A9
Tegra 3 (One X, 4X HD)
Exynos Quad (Galaxy S 3 International)
Scorpion
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Snapdragon S3 (Xperia S)
Krait
Snapdragon S4 (Xperia T, Galaxy S 3 LTE)
Compare DIMPS per MHz (Higher = Better)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krait_(CPU)
Try applying AMD FX-8150 vs Intel i5-3570k/2500k to this environment.
More cores does not generally means better, but in the smartphone world, it's more-likely a mirror to that for the moment.
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Your explanation is really nice. I'm gonna think about Xperia T really seriously.
Anyway, waiting for more answers.
I prefer Xperia V, is almost the same and is dust and water proof, also have smaller screen with bravia engine 2... Doesnt matter which one is faster because with any of them you wont feel lag and can play smoothly everygame in the market
I also think that 4 cores are too much and will drain more battery
always Sony Xperia. than buy T!
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I prefer Xperia V, is almost the same and is dust and water proof, also have smaller screen with bravia engine 2... Doesnt matter which one is faster because with any of them you wont feel lag and can play smoothly everygame in the market
I also think that 4 cores are too much and will drain more battery
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Xperia V? Never. I love big screens (yup, in 10 yrs, i will carry 50' tv in pocket )
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The SGS3, without a doubt.. seamless performance, I must say.. but build leaves some "feel" wanting. But then again, depends on intended usage..Difficult question to answer..
Xperia T outperformed SG3 in benchmark. Samsung uses a worse core so that 2 of them is worse than 1 of snapdragon s4 (which XT uses).
GSMArena posted detailed review of Xperia T just yesterday, so go and check it out. Like I said the last time you opened almost identical thread to this one, for me Xperia T is better choice than totally boring and uninspiring design of SIII, or One X.
Or if you are craving for quad-core, then just wait few more months untill SONY release their quad-core, as I'm sure it will be the beast of all beasts.
Go for it - I Mean S3 Is For Me a Epic Fail - Just Used the one from a friend and compared to arc with GB pressed Home Button, started apps..
Arc is faster... S3 launcher redraw after browser it sucks... Xperia T My Love to sony - its awesome designed, xTreme Fast with S4 & great screen and cam - ill get 2 and we cab develop together
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I would get the xperia t. Well, if you want a phone that has a stylish design and isn't mainstream like the GSIII, then the xperia is the one for you. It comes with bravia engine II i think. From my experience, the colour enhancement engine makes it really worthwhile. And about the dual-core. Don't worry, it's more capable than you think it is.
If you choose the s3 better install another launcher cause touchwiz sucks, I have an S2
LG OPTIMUS G
LG Sucks like Hell - anyway its so awesome 2GiG RAM fastest Processor avaible great cam & screen
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I loathe the SGS3 and TouchWiz is an abomination. But the reviews of the Xperia T have hardly been stellar - yes it's good but ... I think Sony can still do better. The V is actually a better device tbh (no UK launch though, the idiots!).
If it were me I'd buy a Galaxy Nexus - yeh it's Samsung but it's down to £280 in the UK (less on eBay) for an unlocked version which represents great value for money and it's still a fantastic device. Plus ... it's a Nexus!
Or wait until November and see if the Xperia Nexus rumours are true (personally I'm not sure it will happen and we'll get another Samsung device).
Whatever happens my next device will be Nexus.
how much money do u kids have? if at your age i asked 600$ to my parents they were going to kill me xD
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how much money do u kids have? if at your age i asked 600$ to my parents they were going to kill me xD
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and sell your organs to get that 600$, am i right?
btw, the same goes for my parents too unless somehow i managed to persuade them..if i recall correctly maxio's age is around 14,so there is no way a job could provide him with that amount of money..
damn, lucky kids..haha
I feel that s3 is a better phone since it is guaranteed to have an excellent developer support, just look at previous galaxies forum...and with that kind of horsepower, large screen..you can stay with the same phone for 2 years without feeling too outdated,not to mention in my country,the price of galaxy s series is always stay unless the new one comes out,so if you decided to sell it to buy another phone,you wont lose too much money compared to sony..although i do agree the new touchwiz look worse compared to the one on the S2.Just my2cents...
Go with Xperia T. I am using SG3 too. Battery drain is more. HTC except beats audio no use.
I think that the reason why sony is preferring dual core considering everything.
Even I am also looking to buy Xperia T. Thanks for starting very useful thread.
Finally I want to say Xperia T. I'm loving it.
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Good day everyone!
For the past two years I've been using Xperia Arc, and it lived a long and exciting life, but not it came the time to move on to something faster. Unfortunately, I am very limited in the amount of money I want to spend on my new phone, but I want to continue the tradition and keep with sony products. That is why I am here asking a question, what would be the best alternative for Xperia arc, which will be both quick and relatively cheap. I've considered Xperia V, Xperia Acro S and Xperia T, but i haven't found much of a difference between them, therefore, i need your help. What is the best Arc-like smartphone currently on the market for the cheap? ( I do apologize if I've wrote the question in the different thread, but I thought that it would be best asking Arc users for their advice)
if you want it with similar specs then get xperia J, it has a JB update and its cheap, plus has an appealing sony look
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if you want it with similar specs then get xperia J, it has a JB update and its cheap, plus has an appealing sony look
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He mentioned about Xperia T or V and you are suggesting J
@ op try posting here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
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he clearly said "What is the best Arc-like smartphone currently on the market for the cheap?"
so Xperia J would be the best match for his budget
well, yeah, But I ment looking like Arc, not being slow as it is now! That's why Xperia V looks like the best of them all, cz looks like Arc (curvy) and ahve quite enough power.
My T beats the heck out of S3 almost in every benchmark.so T or V but v looks like arc more than T.
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Thats what I have been looking for! and V does look like arc, so i guess, it should be v!
Is there any other similar smartphones on the market, similar to v
sorry for misleading you guys before, my English is not Brilliant
HTC has some dual-core alternatives, the One SV or the older One S. Basically any dual-core HTC from 2012 would be lightning fast compared to the Arc.
I'd stay away from LG altogether. Anything below an Optimus G is a junk. They all have horrible build quality.
I don't want to step any toes here but the Galaxy S3 Mini is a hell lot of phone for a very reasonable price. Phone prices depend on the market but in Europe, this phone sells less than the Xperia T (despite the price cuts on the T) and is a better phone (in my opinion).
Recently a friend bought an Acer. Forgot which model it was but it had 720p display in a 4.3 inch screen or something similar. He is pretty happy and I've seen the screen, it looks pretty clear and amazing. And the viewing angles are a million times better than the Arc (well, that's not fair, all Sony phones, the Z included, have terrible viewing angles. So maybe I shouldn't compare).
For that price no.there are some samsungs but they are heck ugly
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HTC has some dual-core alternatives, the One SV or the older One S. Basically any dual-core HTC from 2012 would be lightning fast compared to the Arc.
I'd stay away from LG altogether. Anything below an Optimus G is a junk. They all have horrible build quality.
I don't want to step any toes here but the Galaxy S3 Mini is a hell lot of phone for a very reasonable price. Phone prices depend on the market but in Europe, this phone sells less than the Xperia T (despite the price cuts on the T) and is a better phone (in my opinion).
Recently a friend bought an Acer. Forgot which model it was but it had 720p display in a 4.3 inch screen or something similar. He is pretty happy and I've seen the screen, it looks pretty clear and amazing. And the viewing angles are a million times better than the Arc (well, that's not fair, all Sony phones, the Z included, have terrible viewing angles. So maybe I shouldn't compare).
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I am currently living in Dubai, UAE, and prices on smartphones are quite cheap, however, I really dislike samsung design- they look too cheap, and a friend of mine owns S3 mini, says thats it's a great phone, but i dont like it looks. The thing why I like xperias was their UI, simple and usefull, compared to HTC Sense or Samsung UI. Thanks for your help anyways, I think I will have to go and look a bit more for them, or wait couple of month with Arc for now, which is barely living now( boot is slow, back cover broke, screen scratched, Overheating etc...)
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I am currently living in Dubai, UAE, and prices on smartphones are quite cheap, however, I really dislike samsung design- they look too cheap, and a friend of mine owns S3 mini, says thats it's a great phone, but i dont like it looks. The thing why I like xperias was their UI, simple and usefull, compared to HTC Sense or Samsung UI. Thanks for your help anyways, I think I will have to go and look a bit more for them, or wait couple of month with Arc for now, which is barely living now( boot is slow, back cover broke, screen scratched, Overheating etc...)
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Get a TX I'll be getting one in a couple of days :highfive:
if you want a good looking smartphone then go for HTC One, I know that is not sony, but it will provide you with a whole new experience. It is made out of aluminum so rock-hard. it has probably the best camera on an android smartphone (ultrapixels), and I read everywhere that the wifi range is breath-taking, the wifi range can simply blow our xperias away.
And you can see the rest of the specs HERE (not all info here are true, eg:camera)
Xperia SP (if affordable would be the best choice)
Xperia T
Xperia ion
Xperia L (cheapest of em all btw worth it)
Hi guys.. I am planning to sell my phone.. I am just confused on which phone to buy.. Xperia Z, Nexus 4, Xperia SP, Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini, HTC One Mini, Sony Xperia Z1 Mini.. Or should i just go with iPhone 5?I can't afford to buy flagships.. Budget isn't that great, nor worst.. :silly: But any suggestions??
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Hi guys.. I am planning to sell my phone.. I am just confused on which phone to buy.. Xperia Z, Nexus 4, Xperia SP, Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini, HTC One Mini, Sony Xperia Z1 Mini.. Or should i just go with iPhone 5?I can't afford to buy flagships.. Budget isn't that great, nor worst.. :silly: But any suggestions??
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Z1 mini is the best out of the above, but not the best price of course.
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Z1 mini is the best out of the above, but not the best price of course.
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Of course.. But since Z1 mini or Z1 S isn't out yet, lets omit it..
Lg optimus g (the at&t version) gives good bang for buck. I got mine for $180 on ebay. I miss my ions camera and sony launcher but this phone performs rather well.
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Lg optimus g (the at&t version) gives good bang for buck. I got mine for $180 on ebay. I miss my ions camera and sony launcher but this phone performs rather well.
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Carrier locked device? Hardly.. Coz i live in India.. Here none of the phones are carrier locked.. May be very few in the past.. But LG Optimus G looks pretty good, but s/w wise its pretty dull.. I mean UI and other stuff..
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Carrier locked device? Hardly.. Coz i live in India.. Here none of the phones are carrier locked.. May be very few in the past.. But LG Optimus G looks pretty good, but s/w wise its pretty dull.. I mean UI and other stuff..
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I actually bought 2 of these, one for my mom and one for me. Mine was carrier locked and the unlock code costed me $2, my moms phone came already unlocked from the seller. I'm using mine in honduras (central america).Sure, UI is not as great as sony's but there are a few roms out there with stock lg UI as well as 4.3 and 4.4 roms. I'm using nocturnal rom(discontinued unfortunately) which is stock LG UI with the sony walkman, movies and gallery app. I like some of the LG tricks though like qslide(which lets you keep watching a video and use the phone's other functions) and quicknote. Unlocking the bootloader was easy with freegee(downloaded it from play store).
My suggestion is xperia z bcoz have good development from good developer
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My suggestion is xperia z bcoz have good development from good developer
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I would have loved to get a z or zl, but the steep $400 plus pricetag for it was waaaaaay above my budget.
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My suggestion is xperia z bcoz have good development from good developer
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Yes so have i thought about getting it.. Since it has official cm support and it will have the same for 3 mpre years atleast because of the h/w.. And devs like niaboc79, zeroimfinity and others make it look like a cool phone.. And also its within my budget.. So probably it is the one.. On other hand, i am thinking of Nexus4.. :/
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Yes so have i thought about getting it.. Since it has official cm support and it will have the same for 3 mpre years atleast because of the h/w.. And devs like niaboc79, zeroimfinity and others make it look like a cool phone.. And also its within my budget.. So probably it is the one.. On other hand, i am thinking of Nexus4.. :/
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Why Nexus 4 and not the Nexus 5? I think the Nexus 5 would be the best device for you if it fits your price. Otherwise wait for the Moto G, it's getting launched in India in January 2014. Both these devices are the best value for money you can get.
Xperia Z
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Why Nexus 4 and not the Nexus 5? I think the Nexus 5 would be the best device for you if it fits your price. Otherwise wait for the Moto G, it's getting launched in India in January 2014. Both these devices are the best value for money you can get.
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Nexus devices are boring UI.. I agree they are the best devices in the market.. But what's a Smartphone without some cool stock features.. I would definitely miss Sony's UI, Media apps and Camera.. And obviously music quality.. And also the look of the phone.. Although u can get all kinds of MODs, but they never are the same.. Xperia Z suits all my needs.. Its waterproof, quad core and 2gb ram, official support for 1 more year atleast, official cm support, official cwm support, lots of awesome devs, mods and cool features the phone exclusively provides.. U don't need anything else for another 2 years.. That's an awesome device.. Although on the other hand, Nexus 4 is cheap and good quality device.. Nexus 5 also is worth buying.. But i may have to skip Nexus and just go with Xperia Z..
its depend on what you looking for on the phone ,, i would suggest HTC one .. or Nexus 5
but if you gonna replace your phone why not to save more money and keep the Xperia S for another months and get a High level phone ,, like Z1 or G2
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its depend on what you looking for on the phone ,, i would suggest HTC one .. or Nexus 5
but if you gonna replace your phone why not to save more money and keep the Xperia S for another months and get a High level phone ,, like Z1 or G2
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I would stick with XS and buy a decent flagship a couple years later. Seriously, the only thing that is very different with the XS and the Galaxy S4 my girl uses is the battery life. XS is the same fast in UI as the S4, has comparable camera performance and in only very heavy 3D games you can see a difference. I don't mind the bigger screen, newer android edition, IR and the slimmer form factor at all. But S4 has roughly TWICE the battery life. 4.4.2 on GS4 is much less stable than on XS, with random reboots.
Don't mind if there are more roms for other phones. Our roms might be few in numbers but are all good.
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I would stick with XS and buy a decent flagship a couple years later. Seriously, the only thing that is very different with the XS and the Galaxy S4 my girl uses is the battery life. XS is the same fast in UI as the S4, has comparable camera performance and in only very heavy 3D games you can see a difference. I don't mind the bigger screen, newer android edition, IR and the slimmer form factor at all. But S4 has roughly TWICE the battery life. 4.4.2 on GS4 is much less stable than on XS, with random reboots.
Don't mind if there are more roms for other phones. Our roms might be few in numbers but are all good.
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On the other hand, Android 4.3 is a lot more stable on the Galaxy S4. And the memory is a big difference as well, 2GB for Galaxy S4, don't know how much of that is available for multitasking, but it will be at least 1GB more than what we have. I can barely multitask with my Xperia S. It's also a popular phone so there are lots of accessories. And it will get an official Android 4.4 ROM so the CM ROM might be less stable now, but in time it will always be more functional than what we will have. And it supports 4G, I think most people don't have 4G in their dataplan yet, but I do since recently (I don't have to pay anything extra for it either) and it's kind of bugging me that I can't use it.
If you're suggesting to stick with this phone for more years when it's already nearly 2 years old, I'm thinking you don't really care about speed in a phone. That's good for you I guess, but other people don't have that patience. And 2 years is a good age I think, also as you say battery life has nearly doubled in the last years and that's the most maddening thing about this phone.
@sudhindrakv: I think it's rather odd that you like the Xperia Z because of the CM support, but on the other hand want a phone with OEM-specific features. If you're going to use CM on it, you won't use those features anyway. In my opinion you should get a Nexus, I see you hanging around in the CM11 thread anyway. A lot of features can be ported to AOSP ROMs anyway, like the Sony media apps.
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On the other hand, Android 4.3 is a lot more stable on the Galaxy S4. And the memory is a big difference as well, 2GB for Galaxy S4, don't know how much of that is available for multitasking, but it will be at least 1GB more than what we have. I can barely multitask with my Xperia S. It's also a popular phone so there are lots of accessories. And it will get an official Android 4.4 ROM so the CM ROM might be less stable now, but in time it will always be more functional than what we will have. And it supports 4G, I think most people don't have 4G in their dataplan yet, but I do since recently (I don't have to pay anything extra for it either) and it's kind of bugging me that I can't use it.
If you're suggesting to stick with this phone for more years when it's already nearly 2 years old, I'm thinking you don't really care about speed in a phone. That's good for you I guess, but other people don't have that patience. And 2 years is a good age I think, also as you say battery life has nearly doubled in the last years and that's the most maddening thing about this phone.
@sudhindrakv: I think it's rather odd that you like the Xperia Z because of the CM support, but on the other hand want a phone with OEM-specific features. If you're going to use CM on it, you won't use those features anyway. In my opinion you should get a Nexus, I see you hanging around in the CM11 thread anyway. A lot of features can be ported to AOSP ROMs anyway, like the Sony media apps.
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Well, 4G is not available in greece either, and according to what I read, it kills the battery, while hspa is already fast enough. I don't see much difference between 4.1 and 4.3 anyways, apart from lockscreen widgets. You are right about multitasking, though in XS it kills useless apps first.
S4 has 780 mb free ram. Our CM11 will evetually get stable too. Just my points.
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On the other hand, Android 4.3 is a lot more stable on the Galaxy S4. And the memory is a big difference as well, 2GB for Galaxy S4, don't know how much of that is available for multitasking, but it will be at least 1GB more than what we have. I can barely multitask with my Xperia S. It's also a popular phone so there are lots of accessories. And it will get an official Android 4.4 ROM so the CM ROM might be less stable now, but in time it will always be more functional than what we will have. And it supports 4G, I think most people don't have 4G in their dataplan yet, but I do since recently (I don't have to pay anything extra for it either) and it's kind of bugging me that I can't use it.
If you're suggesting to stick with this phone for more years when it's already nearly 2 years old, I'm thinking you don't really care about speed in a phone. That's good for you I guess, but other people don't have that patience. And 2 years is a good age I think, also as you say battery life has nearly doubled in the last years and that's the most maddening thing about this phone.
@sudhindrakv: I think it's rather odd that you like the Xperia Z because of the CM support, but on the other hand want a phone with OEM-specific features. If you're going to use CM on it, you won't use those features anyway. In my opinion you should get a Nexus, I see you hanging around in the CM11 thread anyway. A lot of features can be ported to AOSP ROMs anyway, like the Sony media apps.
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No no.. What i meant was OEM specific features are my favourite.. Stock SONY is what i love the most.. I mentioned CM support because after your 2years company support ends, atleast you will have some support from development.. That's why i mentioned.. About CM11, its the only ROM i tested after eXistenZ.. Not into much testing lately, got bigger plans.. Building one myself..
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Well, 4G is not available in greece either, and according to what I read, it kills the battery, while hspa is already fast enough. I don't see much difference between 4.1 and 4.3 anyways, apart from lockscreen widgets. You are right about multitasking, though in XS it kills useless apps first.
S4 has 780 mb free ram. Our CM11 will evetually get stable too. Just my points.
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It seriously only has 780 MB RAM free of the initial 2GB? I know free RAM is wasted RAM, but that's just sad. This is why I never recommend Samsung.
There are some differences under the hood between 4.1 and 4.3, like Bluetooth 4.0 support (uses a lot less battery) and OpenGL. Our CM11 will get kind of stable, I'm just going to install it now by the way, but the available amount of RAM will just keep shrinking as Rayman needs to assign more for every new version of Android it seems (has to do with ION and no proper drivers, if less RAM is assigned it'll bootloop).
And about 4G, it depends on the frequency, but if the 800MHz band is used, 4G should use less power than 3G. In my country it's still only the 1800MHz band though.
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It seriously only has 780 MB RAM free of the initial 2GB? I know free RAM is wasted RAM, but that's just sad. This is why I never recommend Samsung.
There are some differences under the hood between 4.1 and 4.3, like Bluetooth 4.0 support (uses a lot less battery) and OpenGL. Our CM11 will get kind of stable, I'm just going to install it now by the way, but the available amount of RAM will just keep shrinking as Rayman needs to assign more for every new version of Android it seems (has to do with ION and no proper drivers, if less RAM is assigned it'll bootloop).
And about 4G, it depends on the frequency, but if the 800MHz band is used, 4G should use less power than 3G. In my country it's still only the 1800MHz band though.
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Yes.. I agree.. but 4g not yet so popular in India.. its only for rich people.. Even 3g plans are costly around here.. The only thing stopping me from thinking of buying Xperia Z is its already an year old. Another year and its completely gone.. It s gonna be a dead phone without sony support and probably devs would leave that phone and get some new one by that time.. It will be same like having Xperia S now.. Very few devs are here working for our device.. Its gonna be the same there too..
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