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Google Voice and an outrageous phone bill!

I just got my bill from sprint and umm HOLY CRAP! 911 bucks. Evidently since I use the google voice app to make all my calls Sprint recognizes this as a land line and I got charged for all calls. I have my google # as a free number thru sprint but the google app uses another number to forward the call. So is there a google app that calls your google number then processes it that way so it looks like you're calling your google number?

HeyRobi said:
I just got my bill from sprint and umm HOLY CRAP! 911 bucks. Evidently since I use the google voice app to make all my calls Sprint recognizes this as a land line and I got charged for all calls. I have my google # as a free number thru sprint but the google app uses another number to forward the call. So is there a google app that calls your google number then processes it that way so it looks like you're calling your google number?
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download google voice call back from the market and use it to make calls with your gvoice number

Wow, if this is real and legitimate, this needs major attention, and needs to be posted everywhere. I don't use G Voice, but I believe most people using the aosp roms and the Z ports are using google voice, and would probably really love to know about this.
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scottspa74 said:
Wow, if this is real and legitimate, this needs major attention, and needs to be posted everywhere. I don't use G Voice, but I believe most people using the aosp roms and the Z ports are using google voice, and would probably really love to know about this.
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Absolute Real and Unfortunately Legit! Sprint has free mobile to mobile but if you make a Google voice call you will notice a screen pops up showing you the number it's calling. I never thought about it but I had no outbound calls on my phone that I actually dialed since I use google voice for ALL my calls. Now the funny thing was I was going down the list of random numbers on my bill and I can call them and my cell phone will ring, because it was the forwarding number. Sprint is going to credit me the money but told me to delete the app they will only do this once.

t3project said:
download google voice call back from the market and use it to make calls with your gvoice number
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Thanks!
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*sigh* Old news is old.
By default, here's how GVoice and billing works:
IF you setup "Caller ID (incoming): Display caller's number" in the Google Voice site's settings:
Incoming call from a cellphone: Anymobile Anytime (unlimited/free)*
Incoming call from a landline: Regular (limited/not-free)*
Outgoing call to any number: Regular (limited/not-free)*
If you use Google Voice Callback from the Market, Gv will call you using your GV number.*
*Usually. Not 100% of the time guaranteed.
Also, OP, how'd you get Sprint to make your GV number free?

How many calls do you make per month? I use Google Voice all the time, even for business and have never gone over the limit.

What do you like/dislike about Google Voice?

I have already switched to G-Voice as my voice mail provider, but I was wondering what else is good about it? I love the text transcript of voice mails, but I do not know much about this program.
Why would you want to create a Google number? What are the perks?
What are some things that are not commonly known about it? Tricks? I have a feeling there are a bunch of things I do not know about it because I have not had enough time to really get into it.

Basically a standard number, you can use it to make long distance calls, at a low rate, can even send texts.

teh roxxorz said:
Basically a standard number, you can use it to make long distance calls, at a low rate, can even send texts.
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If I am never anywhere near my minute allowance, there really is no benefit for me?

lehalter said:
If I am never anywhere near my minute allowance, there really is no benefit for me?
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Not so much, but you can use it to send texts, and long distance calls. If you go in the settings you can configure it. Also, if you sign out on that phone, you can use it on another phone and keep your messages, I find it to be nice.

First, a word of warning. When you use Google Voice to make outgoing calls, it is considered a call to a landline. So you are eating your Anytime minutes when using this. So the unlimited mobile to mobile on any carrier option does not apply. Keep that in mind. Someone on these forums ended up with a $5000 bill. lol Luckily they got it reversed.
#1 Block callers
#2 Ring all numbers you designate
#3 Calls can come through Google Chat/Gmail
#4 Can give your GV number to people you don't like.
#5 Voicemail screening. You can screen people leaving a voicemail and decide to answer as they are leaving the message or just have it go through to voicemail. Although almost all my friends just hang up and decide to just blow my phone up instead -.-
#6 Listen to your VM on any computer with internet access.

Couple of things:
1) Free text messaging through GV. You get texts in the GV app on your EVO, through google.com/voice, and you can get them through the GV app on other devices.
2) Cheap international calling.
3) One phone number for multiple phones. I have GV set up so it can ring my work phone, cellphone, SIP number, Gmail chat widget, and home phone simultaneously, or on a schedule.
4) Don't need cell service to text, call, or get voicemails. This is extremely useful if you have a WiFi-only tablet or device, such as the upcoming WiFi Xoom. Also, if I'm in an area of the building at work where there's crap service, I can just turn on WiFi, connect, and get my texts through there, and use SIP to make/receive calls.
5) Everything is saved online. Texts, voicemails, and call logs are all on google.com/voice so if I switch ROMs or whatever, I don't have to worry about saving my texts, voicemails, call log, contacts, emails, apps... You get the point.
Basically, Google Voice + Google Sync + Gingerbread/Froyo = 100% backed up to the cloud. I honestly only keep Titanium Backup on my phone for restoring apps that aren't in the Market, convenience (decrypting and unpacking some gzip'd tars is a LOT faster than downloading via 3G), and I have a few apps I'd rather not lose the data for (Google Authenticator, Angry Bids, Launcher Pro, etc.).
6) Customized voicemails (my mom was amazed when I had separate voicemail messages for her, my stepdad, the house number, my boss, etc.)
7) Call screening (Really nifty for those folks who block their phone number, 800 numbers, etc)
8) Free visual voicemail!

I got nailed using using one of the Google Voice callback free. Yes it eats minutes, but if you notice it is made by Xinlu and is not really google (same icon). This ap should be removed from the market and banned since it is not free. I have no idea how it can get 5 stars the rating on this is jacked. I have been tethering via usb and calling via ata ever since.
If you use GV via bowser it should be OK. I have not tried the real Google voice app. What is weird is that I posted a few threads on the google voice help and nevr really got a good answer. I am not sure if anybody realizes that there is a bastard GV out there.

conductive said:
I got nailed using using one of the Google Voice callback free. Yes it eats minutes, but if you notice it is made by Xinlu and is not really google (same icon). This ap should be removed from the market and banned since it is not free. I have no idea how it can get 5 stars the rating on this is jacked. I have been tethering via usb and calling via ata ever since.
If you use GV via bowser it should be OK. I have not tried the real Google voice app. What is weird is that I posted a few threads on the google voice help and nevr really got a good answer. I am not sure if anybody realizes that there is a bastard GV out there.
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It is free under the following conditions:
1) You use it to call your SIP number that has unlimited free incoming calls (such as Sipgate).
2) You have unlimited calling to/from specified numbers (Such as Sprint's call-home or w/e, T-Mobile/Verizon/whatever's MyFaves, My Five, etc.
Also, from the app's description in the Market:
Google Voice Callback can be combined with Gizmo5/Sipdroid/Fring/Sipgate or other VOIP solutions to make free calls over wifi or 3G.
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Perhaps you should read more closely, neh?

Press 4 at any time to start recording the conversation

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Press 4 at any time to start recording the conversation
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Is that true?
swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO

Perhaps you should read more closely, neh?
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Maybe you should not beleive everything you read there Gizmo.
And then what sip to sip to sip Haha ha
Better yet lets try it with 3G good one.
You ever try to sip anything there Gizmo

twiz0r said:
Is that true?
swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
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Have not used it but it's in the tips section

One thing is for sure is that you usually thank somebody and not flame them when they look out for somebody so they do not get burned. Senior members without a clue should also give thanks when a noob has to straighten them out and also apologize for being a flamer so we can get back on the question at hand

Thanks for all of this guys. I was already using it, but know about these other things is cool.

I love Google but had nothing but problems with voice....half the time or more it would say # disconnected and a host of other problems......shy away from voice in my opinion
Sent from my HERO200 running gingerbread....suck it sprint

I love everything about GV except for the lack of MMS

I think somebody thanked me but it is now gone. Thanks if you did.
Number porting
Vanity Numbers
Blacklisting .
Gizmo was awesome but it is now gone I hope it comes back.
I used many of these apps and there is a lot to go over here so send a thanks or other if you are interested. I just do not feel like adding any technical information since I got flamed. I can also tell you that I gave a thanks to the member that informed you guys about how it can eat minutes and I hope that you did the same. Personally I would stay away from the bogus market app that is not made by gogle. It used to be called GV free dial.

No plan

If I but a epic form someone and I don't get a plan is the phone still functionable like wifi and GPS and other things?
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Yes. You'll have to skip activation then switch wifi on and sign into your google account.

Yes wifi and gps will work. Gps will require 3rd party software though. Google maps won't work because you won't have data. google maps will work over wifi if your in an area where wifi is all over the place.
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Unless I can find someone that will pay decently for it, I intend to keep mine after I upgrade my contract and use it as a toy .

Would you still be able to make calls, either through Google voice (with a google #), or through skype or some other app? This would essentially allow the phone to operate completely without a phone bill from what I understand. The only issue is being within range of wifi.
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NawtyB78 said:
Would you still be able to make calls, either through Google voice (with a google #), or through skype or some other app? This would essentially allow the phone to operate completely without a phone bill from what I understand. The only issue is being within range of wifi.
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I do this on my iTouch(the only Mac device I've ever bought ).
The simple answer is yes. Wifi powered apps can run through wifi while the phone CDMA signal is off (airplane mode?). Without getting too complicated, here's what you need:
1. Google Voice Account
2. Google Voice App (for SMS)
3. Sipgate.com Account (for Free Inbound Calls)
4. Sipdroid App registered with Sipgate account (for Calls)
5. Google Voice Callback (to Connect Free Inbound Sipgate Calls)
4-2. Acrobits Softphone has a built in GV dialer and will replace steps 4 and 5 for about $8
Free messaging and calls on a wifi only Epic. Win.

RandomKing said:
I do this on my iTouch(the only Mac device I've ever bought ).
The simple answer is yes. Wifi powered apps can run through wifi while the phone CDMA signal is off (airplane mode?). Without getting too complicated, here's what you need:
1. Google Voice Account
2. Google Voice App (for SMS)
3. Sipgate.com Account (for Free Inbound Calls)
4. Sipdroid App registered with Sipgate account (for Calls)
5. Google Voice Callback (to Connect Free Inbound Sipgate Calls)
4-2. Acrobits Softphone has a built in GV dialer and will replace steps 4 and 5 for about $8
Free messaging and calls on a wifi only Epic. Win.
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Sweetness. Thanks for the info.
Edit: I'd 'thank' you, but I can't seem to figure out to how to do that through the xda app...
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I have recently found a app called GrooVe IP.
thats all you need to do is login to your google voice account with the app.. and it makes and receives calls thru wifi, 3G/4G..
I have used it recently when I forgot to pay my sprint bill.. and they cut my phone half way off.. I was still able to make calls using this app..
the app is like 4 dollars..
here is the link with more info on it
http://www.appbrain.com/app/groove-ip/com.gvoip

bigdreco said:
I have recently found a app called GrooVe IP.
thats all you need to do is login to your google voice account with the app.. and it makes and receives calls thru wifi, 3G/4G..
I have used it recently when I forgot to pay my sprint bill.. and they cut my phone half way off.. I was still able to make calls using this app..
the app is like 4 dollars..
here is the link with more info on it
http://www.appbrain.com/app/groove-ip/com.gvoip
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Nice find! Not a very old app apparently... although I'm curious how it works. Google Voice doesn't have it's own Sip service, it simply connects two numbers together with your Voice # in between. You can call out from Gmail though, so maybe it's making use of that?
Either way, nice!

Thx u guys

RandomKing said:
Nice find! Not a very old app apparently... although I'm curious how it works. Google Voice doesn't have it's own Sip service, it simply connects two numbers together with your Voice # in between. You can call out from Gmail though, so maybe it's making use of that?
Either way, nice!
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Yay! Quoting myself!
Moving on! So anyhow! I figured out how this works. Gmail started allowing calls out from its chat window about 8 months ago or so. Apparently, sometime after that, calls in were also allowed, making your Gmail window a free phone! I had already given up and moved on with a Sip phone and service, which allows you to not always have the Gmail window open to use... lol. But regardless, Groove IP takes advantage of these facts, and now basically pulls in your Google Talk functionality to make and receive calls all by itself!
What this means, is that under phones settings in Google Voice, you will have to enable call forwarding to Google Talk for Groove IP to completely work. Now know this, Google Talk does not use the latest and greatest Codecs for SIP, so it may not carry as good a call quality as using the GV + SIP option, but it certainly is simpler!
And with GV + Sprint integration now live and open, you can make your backup device carry the same number and functionality as your Sprint phone!

I have tried sipgate and the 'text you back' feature hasn't been working for me. Any suggestions?

bigdreco said:
I have recently found a app called GrooVe IP.
thats all you need to do is login to your google voice account with the app.. and it makes and receives calls thru wifi, 3G/4G..
I have used it recently when I forgot to pay my sprint bill.. and they cut my phone half way off.. I was still able to make calls using this app..
the app is like 4 dollars..
here is the link with more info on it
http://www.appbrain.com/app/groove-ip/com.gvoip
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Does anyone know of an IOS app that does the same thing? I've got extra ipods/iphones but not android devices. (I've looked at Fring but I assume it isn't doing this and is instead encouraging you to use their paid SIP gateway.)

Sorry for the delay in response, I try to have a life with my Fiancee on the weekend .
gdbassett said:
I have tried sipgate and the 'text you back' feature hasn't been working for me. Any suggestions?
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I'm not sure what you mean by 'text you back'.
gdbassett said:
Does anyone know of an IOS app that does the same thing? I've got extra ipods/iphones but not android devices. (I've looked at Fring but I assume it isn't doing this and is instead encouraging you to use their paid SIP gateway.)
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Acrobits Softphone will allow you to set a SipGate, or any similar SIP account, along with Google Voice as a call out dialer. Using this method, it will essentially dial itself, you'll answer SipGate through the app, and then it will call the other person. This app is available on both IOS and Android now, and was the best setup up until Groove IP. It may still be better, due to the different manners of operation, but the all-in-one solution of Groove is clearly very nice. However, the Softphone method is the best available AIO on IOS.

For anyone wanting to use Google Voice, this is for you

This is for anyone wanting to use Google Voice as their talking system, but didn't like to because it wasn't a VoIP service. The name of the app is GrooVe IP (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.gvoip&hl=en). Instead of calling your phone number, according to the instructions, since it's calling your google chat identity, it's free AND it works over wifi! I'm sure others, like myself, who have ****ty reception on the Incredible 2 but love the phone and want to use it like an actual phone, would love to know about this app.

I second this. Also by using this method, you aren't using any of your minutes in your plan.
Too bad that it can't do VoIP for incoming calls& texts.
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deaffob said:
I second this. Also by using this method, you aren't using any of your minutes in your plan.
Too bad that it can't do VoIP for incoming calls& texts.
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I'm using this for incoming calls, as well as outgoing. I have -105dbm and my calls are all choppy and often drop while I'm home. This app is different than using google voice. What happens is that everything is routed through google chat and then sent over SIP. I've pulled the back off my phone and made my phone completely lose service and then I made a call using the app and it was 100% over wifi. I then had someone call me, while the back of my phone was still off, to see if I could also receive calls over wifi and it worked. As far as texts goes, I just use the standard google voice app for texting. Too bad there isn't a way to get texts to forward to a certain number lol

How is this different from turning on the option in google voice app? I been using Gvoice since I got my phone and I have it prompt me to use it or my verizon service to call on each call. I also give the Gvoice number out as mine since it works over the data network or wifi? Can someone explain the major differences?

digitalsynner85 said:
I'm using this for incoming calls, as well as outgoing. I have -105dbm and my calls are all choppy and often drop while I'm home. This app is different than using google voice. What happens is that everything is routed through google chat and then sent over SIP. I've pulled the back off my phone and made my phone completely lose service and then I made a call using the app and it was 100% over wifi. I then had someone call me, while the back of my phone was still off, to see if I could also receive calls over wifi and it worked. As far as texts goes, I just use the standard google voice app for texting. Too bad there isn't a way to get texts to forward to a certain number lol
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Actually, when you make a call through this app, you are indeed using voip but when someone calls you, there is no way that the app can do anything because google voice can only reroute the call to your phone number. There is no such thing as voip incoming calls with google voice
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How is this different from turning on the option in google voice app? I been using Gvoice since I got my phone and I have it prompt me to use it or my verizon service to call on each call. I also give the Gvoice number out as mine since it works over the data network or wifi? Can someone explain the major differences?
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This isn't about using google voice or not. It is about google voice over voip, not over your mobile provider's network. Let's say you are at a underground 5 floors below. You will not be able to make any calls with the regular GV app because the app only uses the provider's network and no, it doesn't use your provider's mobile data. What it does is it calls GV server and the server re-calls to your target. You do not see this on your phone because GV app changes the number for you but the real number it's calling is something very different. Something like this 219827419875018725101250.
Anyway, with this app, you can make calls over the internet, hence the name Voice Over Internet Protocol, voip. Also since you are using your data instead of your precious minutes, you can opt for the lower minutes plan.

Right, and from my understanding, when you use just regular google voice, you're still using your minutes. I still get disconnected from calls because I have horrible reception and service out here, but using the GrooVe IP app, I'm able to pull my back off and make it say I'm completely out of service and I can make a call using the wifi.
As far as what you stated about routing it to your phone number deaf, the app tells you to deselect your phone number and to select your google chat identity which is supposed to solve the issue of it dialing through to your phone when you receive a call. It just forwards it to the google chat and the app is sort of like a mediator between google chat and your phone, and the internet recognizes it as a google chat session. At least that's the way I understood it. I'm probably completely wrong because I'm just getting this app, but I'm doing more research. I thought it went through SIP because there are options in the troubleshooting thing in the app to override the STUN server which is based off of a sipgate address.
Edit: I was just thinking of this. You said it's not working right or w/e for when incoming calls come in. Have you completely logged out of google chat online and on your phone? If you're logged into GC from anything else other than the app, it will inadvertently try to call that device. So let's say your PC is logged into GC. I call your number and the app tries to forward it to the account, but GC picks up the call before your phone can and interferes with how the app is supposed to work.

You CAN make and RECEIVE calls with this app. All you have to do is setup a google voice phone number. Then from the google voice website, you route all incoming calls to go to your google chat, not your cell phone number. Then call your google voice number and it will ring on your phone through grooveip.
For all you guys using this, what settings have you used with this app? I found that I get choppy or laggy voice that makes this app difficult to use. I think it has to do in part to how our phone manages wifi power and sleep. Any tips or tweaks that you guys have found to work best?

@ digital You were right. I didn't know that I had to check that option which it reroutes to gmail chat. I however checked both phone and Gchat so I don't know if I'd be getting both at the same time or not. :X

deaffob said:
Anyway, with this app, you can make calls over the internet, hence the name Voice Over Internet Protocol, voip. Also since you are using your data instead of your precious minutes, you can opt for the lower minutes plan.
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Sooooo, google voice does not use wifi? I am still confused.

Lagos3sgte said:
You CAN make and RECEIVE calls with this app. All you have to do is setup a google voice phone number. Then from the google voice website, you route all incoming calls to go to your google chat, not your cell phone number. Then call your google voice number and it will ring on your phone through grooveip.
For all you guys using this, what settings have you used with this app? I found that I get choppy or laggy voice that makes this app difficult to use. I think it has to do in part to how our phone manages wifi power and sleep. Any tips or tweaks that you guys have found to work best?
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Go into your troubleshooting and check off to always keep your screen on. If your screen turns off, it messes with the audio for some reason. As soon as I make a call, I quickly hit my power button twice so that it goes to the lockscreen so that I don't have to worry about accidentally dialing someone else or starting an app

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@ digital You were right. I didn't know that I had to check that option which it reroutes to gmail chat. I however checked both phone and Gchat so I don't know if I'd be getting both at the same time or not. :X
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lol, no problem man. I was thinking of doing that but was afraid what you were experiencing would happen to me. Glad to have helped you out buddy.

Fusion.Coil said:
Sooooo, google voice does not use wifi? I am still confused.
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The standard Google Voice by itself does not. What it does is just act as a go-between for your number and your GV number. Essentially all it is, is just a dummy number that people can use to call you without actually calling your actual phone number. Using this app I suggested, the number being called when someone calls your GV number is actually being caught by Google Chat and this program is the mediator between your phone and GC, thus meaning that you're using 100% data and nothing else.
Sorry for the triple post, lol. I just figured out how to use multi-quote the right way haha. I've been using these boards for almost a month now and I JUST now figured it out.

digitalsynner85 said:
The standard Google Voice by itself does not. What it does is just act as a go-between for your number and your GV number. Essentially all it is, is just a dummy number that people can use to call you without actually calling your actual phone number. Using this app I suggested, the number being called when someone calls your GV number is actually being caught by Google Chat and this program is the mediator between your phone and GC, thus meaning that you're using 100% data and nothing else.
Sorry for the triple post, lol. I just figured out how to use multi-quote the right way haha. I've been using these boards for almost a month now and I JUST now figured it out.
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I get it now... Thanks people.

Anyone know of any free alternatives?

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Anyone know of any free alternatives?
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Currently there are none that I know of that don't involve intensive setting up, such as having multiple accounts to log into, setting up multiple forwarding numbers, etc. You can try getting the APK from apktop (google apktop groove ip 1.2.9 and it's the first link) and seeing if it works, but I'm not sure if it requires cracking to be able to use. This way is probably the simplest and 100% foolproof way. The only thing I dislike about this app is that my screen has to stay on to use this app or else I have severe issues of the sound cutting in and out, so I just press home and then my power button twice to get to the lockscreen so that i don't have any apps starting up unwanted. Personally I think it's well worth the $3.99, but then again, I've started supporting all the devs of the apps I really like. It was stated on facebook, by him, that he offers an extended refund period for those people unhappy with his app. How much longer? No idea. But it is guaranteed that you can try this app for 24 hours and if you don't like it you can always get a refund from the market.

Tmobile $30 Data Plan + SIP + Google Voice = I have this setup wrong

So I have been looking around here, searching (unsuccessfully) on how to setup Google Voice (GV) to use only data on 3g and wifi. I see no settings in GV or ICS for this. How do I set this up using GV to dial only data and no voice?
Can I simply go to:
Phone (stock app) >Settings > Use Internet Calling > For all calls when data is available
And then:
Google Voice (downloaded App) > Settings > Making Calls > Use Google Voice to Make all calls
Will these settings work successfully or do I need to purchase an app like Groove IP to get the result I am looking for?
I also signed up for an SIP account at sip2sip and tried to configure a SIP account in the phone, but the account wont configure properly on the phone.
Anyways I am all over the place here, some guidance from someone with more knowledge than myself would be great
Thanks!

There's a misconception that Google Voice is a VOIP service. It is not, it is simply a call forwarding service. When someone dials your GV# it simply forwards to one or more other numbers. Downloading the GV app doesn't enable or allow native VOIP calls on the phone.
The only way to get a VOIP solution going with Google Voice is to have it forward calls to Google Talk (what you'd usually do to make and receive calls in GMail), and use an app like GrooVe IP or Talkatone to intercept those and relay them to your phone.
These basic VOIP service layers for GV aren't as good as they sound. They can work quite well when configured properly on WiFi, but don't expect to make quality calls walking down the street on 3G. The codecs they use just require too much consistent bandwidth and don't work well on mobile networks.
There are other more complex SIP systems that you can pay for and have your GV# forward to, but for that I recommend you head to general and read the VOIP thread.
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Appreciate it, will take a gander over to the voip.
I get fairly consistent 8down and 2up using tmo here so Id like to at least try!
Worst comes to worst I can put my old work sim in for service

Hi Quarkboy!
I am using T-mobile $30 plan, grooveip, google voice to do exactly what you describe. I used it this past week in both Boston and Chicago. I have a new to me used not yet unrooted HTC sensation, DL speeds I get 2mbs to 4 mbs. Calls are "clear", I don't and listeners don't hear static, but, everything sounds a little "thin" and "tinny". I plan to try talkatone next.
IMO, the sound quality is not poor enough to abandon grooveip for most calls, but, for an important call I'd probably use plan minutes.
GL!

Yes. If you want it to make all calls, just set it to that. I have used it and confirmed on my bill that it works
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Ive got nothing but good things to say about talkatone.
Easy setup...good options...great app!
Try itZ!
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Yup. Talkatone is the way to go.
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You don't have to set up third party programs anymore. You can just set it up though gvoice itself. I'll send screen shots when I get home. I've made two outgoing calls at the same time with it before. The other parties caller I'd shows my gv number. And. It didn't ever charge my minutes. Long story as to why I did it, but I do use gv all the time for visual voice mail. And texting.
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To use the native internet calling, you need to download sipdroid from the market temporarily. Through sipdroid, you can create a free account with pbxes.org with a google voice trunk (not available for free if you directly sign up at pbxes.org).
I'm about to investigate further (just got the $30 100min/5gb plan myself today), but if pbxes.org supports call forwarding if there's no active sip session (or less good, forward after x rings/seconds), you should be able to sign up for another GV/pbxes pair and use that to ring your real phone number. That way, you can have people call one number and always be reachable, and have voip preference to not eat your minutes.
It's a shame you can't do prioritized ringing natively with GV.

Yea. I downloaded Talkatone and I'm glad I did. I'm definitely going to buy the addless license after a week of use. Just have to make sure that I havent missed any problems before purchasing.
1454 said:
You don't have to set up third party programs anymore. You can just set it up though gvoice itself. I'll send screen shots when I get home. I've made two outgoing calls at the same time with it before. The other parties caller I'd shows my gv number. And. It didn't ever charge my minutes. Long story as to why I did it, but I do use gv all the time for visual voice mail. And texting.
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Also, I wondered this...
I made an accidental call using Google Voice while using my cell network (not wireless internet) and it rang! So not sure if you get charged using minutes or if its only taken from your data. I wonder if you can receive calls as well.

pinoyplaya4life said:
Yea. I downloaded Talkatone and I'm glad I did. I'm definitely going to buy the addless license after a week of use. Just have to make sure that I havent missed any problems before purchasing.
Also, I wondered this...
I made an accidental call using Google Voice while using my cell network (not wireless internet) and it rang! So not sure if you get charged using minutes or if its only taken from your data. I wonder if you can receive calls as well.
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Yes you do get charged minutes with just gv. Use talkatone to call without minutes. Play around in the settings to get it just right. You know it's right when you can make and receive calls on airplane mode our without the Sim in the phone. Additionally, most importantly make sure to log into the desktop version of gv and forward all calls to google talk.

ziddey said:
To use the native internet calling, you need to download sipdroid from the market temporarily. Through sipdroid, you can create a free account with pbxes.org with a google voice trunk (not available for free if you directly sign up at pbxes.org).
I'm about to investigate further (just got the $30 100min/5gb plan myself today), but if pbxes.org supports call forwarding if there's no active sip session (or less good, forward after x rings/seconds), you should be able to sign up for another GV/pbxes pair and use that to ring your real phone number. That way, you can have people call one number and always be reachable, and have voip preference to not eat your minutes.
It's a shame you can't do prioritized ringing natively with GV.
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Interesting. I just signed up and I'm trying to get it set up with the built in Internet Calling features in Android.
If I set Google Voice and Internet Calling to Ask Each Time I get this:
Call with Google Voice > Dials using Cell
Call with Cell > Asks me to chose internet or cell
So that doesn't seem to be what is expected. Although I suppose I could reduce minutes by receiving calls over gv.
Finally, does anyone know if pbxes.org keeps you logged into gtalk on their servers 24/7?