PSP emulator for android - Galaxy S II Themes and Apps

Can it be posseble to make an psp emulator for android??? I think it can be posseble on dual core phones like galaxy s 2, mootorola x2, lg optimus x2 and others!! It can be really cool, thanks!!!
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davis2503 said:
Can it be posseble to make an psp emulator for android??? I think it can be posseble on dual core phones like galaxy s 2, mootorola x2, lg optimus x2 and others!! It can be really cool, thanks!!!
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There is a higher possibility for an "NGP" emulator than this. You need a lot of power to emulate a machine in real time. Even the Nintendo DS emulator does not produce more than 10 frames / s on my galaxy s2.
Then why NGP, because it will be build from the same components (future phones).

Atm apps and emulators can only use one core.
As soon as both can be used a nds or psp emulator could maybe be possible, but to that it will take some time.
A NGP emulator would work better on the software side, but youre just dreaming if you think an near future android phone could be able to emulate a quadcore devicel.

It works on iPhone, why not on Anroid?

PSP emulator 4Android would be great, too bad that emulators still don't use 2 cores

guessit could work. but on a PSP you have so many buttons (and you actually need them to play) , that the experience would be crap.
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there is a ps1 emulator if you want it.
and it can play resident evil 3 in full speed in galaxy s2.
it is called fpse.
as for psp i think it is not possible.

sorrowrain said:
there is a ps1 emulator if you want it.
and it can play resident evil 3 in full speed in galaxy s2.
it is called fpse.
as for psp i think it is not possible.
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Thanks for info! My dream was to someday play GTA VCS on my SGSII

I think it's impossible cause emulate a device in real-time use many power.
( Sorry for my too bad english )

Ahhh...the dream threads.I'd go for a PS2 emu first.I'm dreaming of whipping some Zeus butt on my phone.Rumors Sony will re-release some PS2 games for Android...probably when they come up with Play2.
Drea ee ee ee eem...

Since we are dreaming then how about stream a game from a jailbroken ps3 to a tablet over wifi like one would with the npg?

lets say somehow someone find a way to emulate or stream PS2/3/P on android device.
then how you want to replicate the controls? even if you put every top side keys on the screen what would you do about L1/L2/R1/R2? they are really designed to be used simultaneously with other keys, so there is no way to put them on screen or same face with other keys.. the only way is to redesign the games so there is no need to use that 4 keys. and it is impossible for an emulator/streamer to this magic.
even if a programmer does this, these changes can ruin the gameplay experience.you can see what happened for GTA3.I'm every sure that everyone just bought that for it's nostalgy not it's gameplay.

And using ps3 controller by bluetooth?
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False. The new FPSE emulator has a dual core option.

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And using ps3 controller by bluetooth?
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Then you'll need a third arm.
So you can keep your phone.
But seriously if there you add a phone holder above the controller , it would be extremely amazing.
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fpse works fine but the controller does not perform well
Then you'll need a third arm.
So you can keep your phone.
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it is sufficient to build support for the phone connected to the controller
..like a psp

ok listen, its not impossible to run psp on android, but you will need at least 1.5 ghz not nesscesarily dual core, but would be better, the nintendo ds emulator runs ****ty because its still being developed, 1ghz is enought to emulate ds, the psp runs in a 300mhz porcessor while the ds in two, 30 and 20 ghz, psx n64 everything used to run slow before why? the emulator needs time, so it is possible but someone must take the time to develop an emulator and fix the bugs and imperfections that will come up later, and since using psp roms is still against the law not only will it be a expensive project but you will need testers and developers, so its hard but POSSIBLE, and aout the controls, yes maybe it will be ****ty, maybe not i personaly think its worth a try.

New ideas to the old problem of 10x the power to emulate
Hi
I have some ideas on how to design a emulator framework with allot less overhead than most common designs today an more flexibility for adding new console types, CPU types, GPU types and other HW.
A modular design with a virtualization engine (like KVM Arm, QEMU or Codezero Embedded Hypervisor) to handle the different HW, same core framework on all HW platforms.
Each emulated HW packaged as a plugin and then add the emulated hardware in to a saved configuration and load the one matching the input data.
ARM Cortex A15 will help with it's added support for hardware virtualization but it's still possible on current SOC like A9 but with more overhead. The benefit with using a existing virtualization hypervisor that can run on ARM SOC is most of the hard work of handling CPU loads and GPU is built in with minimal overhead.
So, this is a big project but would make for a good platform for game console emulation. What do you developers think, is this approach a good one?

TwistedRat said:
Hi
I have some ideas on how to design a emulator framework with allot less overhead than most common designs today an more flexibility for adding new console types, CPU types, GPU types and other HW.
A modular design with a virtualization engine (like KVM Arm, QEMU or Codezero Embedded Hypervisor) to handle the different HW, same core framework on all HW platforms.
Each emulated HW packaged as a plugin and then add the emulated hardware in to a saved configuration and load the one matching the input data.
ARM Cortex A15 will help with it's added support for hardware virtualization but it's still possible on current SOC like A9 but with more overhead. The benefit with using a existing virtualization hypervisor that can run on ARM SOC is most of the hard work of handling CPU loads and GPU is built in with minimal overhead.
So, this is a big project but would make for a good platform for game console emulation. What do you developers think, is this approach a good one?
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How you know so much things?

nrnbow said:
PSP emulator 4Android would be great, too bad that emulators still don't use 2 cores
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Ehh, a nvidia tegra 3 could run it anyway...., google is say that they will move to Multicore one day, and anyway quad core is already out, so why not? :good:

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xperia play psp games?

why has no one tried to port psp to xperia play i know there are like a million games id love to play and if a 333mhz processor can play awesome games im sure a 1GHZ processer could emulate those games or something comon throw me a bone
OMG Have you even tried to use the search function? This has been asked so often and the answhere stays NOOOOOOOOOOOO! PSP Games are not open source so unly the original devs could do that but they wont becouse PSP games cost about 30$ and android games much less. Got it?
psxpetey said:
why has no one tried to port psp to xperia play i know there are like a million games id love to play and if a 333mhz processor can play awesome games im sure a 1GHZ processer could emulate those games or something comon throw me a bone
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Sure. Fetch.
So do you think a pentium 1 that is more that 333 mhz can play psp games?
Mhz means nothing.
a pentium computer need to emulate all the cpu instruction.... I think that a arm cpu (like these in our smartphone) will be more appropriate to emulate the psp wich use the same type of instruction.... so must of the cpu instruction don't have to be converted to something else.... The dreamcast is in the same case....
Where sony may have some trouble... is how the psp use 2 chip to do the job.... the interaction between the media engine and the cpu is more complex then what you may think.... and with only one chip(current smartphone), that interaction is pretty hard to reproduce/emulate...
my bad i forgot it was dualcore and watnot and i searched after i posted i delete this shortly
i belive that in less than 3 years, smartphones will run psp games, likes running psOne games now
Why would you need PSP games, when you can play PC games?
The button layout is quite the same, so it's easier to play PSP games.
I wonder why Sony doesn't port Loco Roco to mobile... It was successful, and the whole concept is easily translatable not only to Xperia Play but to any gyroscope-toting device.
gohanks10 said:
i belive that in less than 3 years, smartphones will run psp games, likes running psOne games now
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less then 3 years?? i predict 2012, with tegra 3 already here with its 12 core GPU and other CPU manufacturers not wanting to be to behind for long quad core will be more common place and should be able to emulate PSP games, maybe even dreamcast......
couldnt agree more, it would be the best game we have! same applies for rolando on iphone, all it needs is the shoulder buttons to rotate
the sad thing about android is the games for the most part blow or are obvious cheap ripoffs iphone has amazing games and all the awesome old games are being ported to it like warrior within and raptor call of the shadows
Logseman said:
The button layout is quite the same, so it's easier to play PSP games.
I wonder why Sony doesn't port Loco Roco to mobile... It was successful, and the whole concept is easily translatable not only to Xperia Play but to any gyroscope-toting device.
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funny how you say that
Loco Roco Midnight Carnival for Xperia Play (Vid/Tut/Caps)
Well think about it.. Even PSX emulation isn't perfect on the Play, what makes you think PSP would run any better?
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funny how you say that
Loco Roco Midnight Carnival for Xperia Play (Vid/Tut/Caps)
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I didn't know it was available but it's only for Japan, it seems
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the sad thing about android is the games for the most part blow or are obvious cheap ripoffs iphone has amazing games and all the awesome old games are being ported to it like warrior within and raptor call of the shadows
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Many of the games are nearly identical between Android and iPhone, there are tons of great games for it. Yes iPhone has more, but you also have to use touch controls which suck.
The PS Suite will be out in a month or so for this phone with tons of PSX ports, This phone is by far a better gaming device.
PS I loved Raptor: Call of the Shadows, but it was hardly any sort of super blockbuster A title. Awesome old games (like Sonic CD, GTA 3, etc) have been ported to both at the same time, and they are better on Android
I <3 Raptor too... Retro gaming FTW!

[Q] The True Playstation Phone: What do You Make Believe it to be?

With all the commotion and discontent over the failed ICS update, I thought it might be more worthwhile to formulate and discuss ideas on features we'd want in the true Playstation Phone. People speculated and imagined the PLAY into existence long before it ever popped up. What if our ideas spark something greater down the line?
We all know the hardware and software limitations of the PLAY, and even an ICS update would disappoint in the long run, but what do YOU want a true PSPhone to be like?
A psp and a ps2 emulator'lld be great. And on the hardware side, a hd 4.5 inch lcd2 display tegra 3 processor and 2 gb ram (from Samsung)
sorry if i had dreamed to much:-D
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Xcited android user said:
A psp and a ps2 emulator'lld be great. And on the hardware side, a hd 4.5 inch lcd2 display tegra 3 processor and 2 gb ram (from Samsung)
sorry if i had dreamed to much:-D
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4.5'? You would be better off with a PS Vita (5')!
I would like to see a phone with the same design as the Xperia Play, but with (for example) the Nintendo 3DS analogs (physical), more ram, a better processor, internal memory, display resolution and more gaming related apps.
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4.5'? You would be better off with a PS Vita (5')!
I would like to see a phone with the same design as the Xperia Play, but with (for example) the Nintendo 3DS analogs (physical), more ram, a better processor, internal memory, display resolution and more gaming related apps.
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Yea, those are good ideas. You can't dream too big! I think 5' will work because some Droid and Dell phones are that big lol! Imagine the Vita screensize but minus the controls on the side. They would slide out.
I also think it should have QR game download. So you could scan a label on a PS3,PSP, or Vita game you have and download it to your Phone instantly with NFC

PSP emulator for HOX?

I'm not first nor last who is asking that question, but now, with the quad-core Tegra 3 phones it could be possible to emulate PSP (or even PS2).
So, is there/anyone working on something of that kind?
And please, don't flame me, I'm aware of another simmilar threads, but none of them are "fresh" ones.
i'm pretty sure this is the answer:
the resources that would be needed to emulate the ps2s hardware is too much currently. i think unless somebody wrote a specific tegra 3 ps2 emulator, it *might* be possible, but even then wouldn't be perfect. there would be framerate drops etc etc.
i know theres some for pcs, but obviously pc cpus/gpus are a bit more mature, and obviously have specific instruction sets etc that can be utilized more efficiently.
Nope, not even the more powerful SGS III can do that. Up till now, only PS One can be emulated.
cccy said:
Nope, not even the more less SGS III can do that. Up till now, only PS One can be emulated.
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Fixed also I can sell you an anti flame vest for $200 usd. You might need it.
As for psp and ps2 emulation is very primitive on the pc right now so I don't expect a emu any time soon on android and fyi my buddies i5 desktop pc can barely run ps2 games at full speed. I don't expect an android device to get close to that.
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Yeah, you're right, even in PCSX2 on my 3,1 GHz i5 & Radeon HD6870 machine with 8GB RAM are some games pretty slow sometimes. But I'm using some graphics enhancements (like antialiasing etc.), so I was thinking about original PS2-like graphics...
Nevermind, it was just an idea. I should sleep more and think less. :laugh:
I should've been happy for PS1 emulator right now.

NDS emulators and pokemon

Hello.
I'd like to start a conversation about pokemon games running on android emulators.
I've read somewhere that pokemon games are designed not to work on emu's,but i still want to discuss it.
So,i've tried to run pokemon diamond on every single NDS emulator there is for android. Dsoid,nds4droid,Andsemu.
And all run it the same. I can get in the game,the part when rowan talks is really smooth,like in real NDS,but,the in game performance is really laggy.
But thats my case,i have an underclocked and undervolted phone,so,maybie someone got it partly smooth? Like,not so smooth like in the actual console,but not so laggy that its unplayable?
Second,i've tried to run Pokemon platinum,and it got to the "press start" screen. Freezes.
Someone even said they got pokemon white running,gonna try that.
DeHuMaNiZeD said:
Hello.
I'd like to start a conversation about pokemon games running on android emulators.
I've read somewhere that pokemon games are designed not to work on emu's,but i still want to discuss it.
So,i've tried to run pokemon diamond on every single NDS emulator there is for android. Dsoid,nds4droid,Andsemu.
And all run it the same. I can get in the game,the part when rowan talks is really smooth,like in real NDS,but,the in game performance is really laggy.
But thats my case,i have an underclocked and undervolted phone,so,maybie someone got it partly smooth? Like,not so smooth like in the actual console,but not so laggy that its unplayable?
Second,i've tried to run Pokemon platinum,and it got to the "press start" screen. Freezes.
Someone even said they got pokemon white running,gonna try that.
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i have a gnex and 3 different nds emulators on my phone and i've had the same results as you
and there are people who tried on sgs 3 and the same
im going to try with my mother's sgNote2 and report
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almost the same result though it feels a liiiiitle bit faster( 21 fps average) its still too slow to be played
maybe we just have to wait for more updates, all emulators struggle at first
but on the surface pokemon doesnt seem like a very demanding game imo
n64 and ps1 games seem way more demanding but play very smooth on this phone or any quad or dual around, so i guess its a matter of optimization
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DeHuMaNiZeD said:
Hello.
I'd like to start a conversation about pokemon games running on android emulators.
I've read somewhere that pokemon games are designed not to work on emu's,but i still want to discuss it.
So,i've tried to run pokemon diamond on every single NDS emulator there is for android. Dsoid,nds4droid,Andsemu.
And all run it the same. I can get in the game,the part when rowan talks is really smooth,like in real NDS,but,the in game performance is really laggy.
But thats my case,i have an underclocked and undervolted phone,so,maybie someone got it partly smooth? Like,not so smooth like in the actual console,but not so laggy that its unplayable?
Second,i've tried to run Pokemon platinum,and it got to the "press start" screen. Freezes.
Someone even said they got pokemon white running,gonna try that.
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Pokemon has anti-piracy features so you'll get trouble emulating it.
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gnustomp said:
Pokemon has anti-piracy features so you'll get trouble emulating it.
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Yes i thought so..
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Well... all my GBA pokemon roms work fine on my galaxy note but all ds games run crappy. Its not only about processing power as the original ds has the same hardware as an old Android Phone, but mostly about coding. Ds emus on Android are on diapers. Les hope they manage to make them work better later on. Right now i play ds games on my pc. Flawlessly i must say.
Honestly they probably won't ever run fast. The ones on PC still don't run even great, although you will get a steady game with decent specs. I wouldn't count on running a Nds emu anytime soon until we have a strong spec'd phone.
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Honestly they probably won't ever run fast. The ones on PC still don't run even great, although you will get a steady game with decent specs. I wouldn't count on running a Nds emu anytime soon until we have a strong spec'd phone.
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I can run the latest pokemon games(black 2) without lag at full speed on my laptop
Its only single core 3ghz processor but still, if it could be done for pc's then it will be done for phones, specially with 1.9 quad monsters like the gs4 coming this year
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negrobembon said:
I can run the latest pokemon games(black 2) without lag at full speed on my laptop
Its only single core 3ghz processor but still, if it could be done for pc's then it will be done for phones, specially with 1.9 quad monsters like the gs4 coming this year
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Dual core 2.10 and I get fps loss. But what type of processor? But.. if I get around and set it up properly I can usually play around full speed.
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pokerapar88 said:
Well... all my GBA pokemon roms work fine on my galaxy note but all ds games run crappy. Its not only about processing power as the original ds has the same hardware as an old Android Phone, but mostly about coding. Ds emus on Android are on diapers. Les hope they manage to make them work better later on. Right now i play ds games on my pc. Flawlessly i must say.
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It is about processing power. I believe to emulate any system full speed you need to run on a system about 4X more powerfully than what you're emulating. Unless the emulators start utilizing multiple cores (I don't believe they do now) you probably need around 2 GHz chip for effective nds emulation.
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iloqutiss1 said:
It is about processing power. I believe to emulate any system full speed you need to run on a system about 4X more powerfully than what you're emulating. Unless the emulators start utilizing multiple cores (I don't believe they do now) you probably need around 2 GHz chip for effective nds emulation.
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Waaaay more than 4x the power if the emu is not optimized. Considering the NDS has a 66mhz cpu and our 1.0 + ghz phones can't do it.
Unless the emulator is written to take advantage of multiple cores, it, like most programs, will use just a single core. So a single-core processor clocked at 3GHz will outperform a quad-core clocked at 2GHz (in respects to emulation performance).
FYI, most Intel Core-i processors have built-in per-core overclocking: a single core under demand will be overclocked as long as the overall CPU temperature is within normal parameters.
Don't forget to play around with the emulator's graphics settings as well as your video card's (GPU settings for phones). Reducing or turning off anti-aliasing, anisotropic filtering, texture quality, triple buffering, etc will increase your frame rate.
Your version of android and custom ROM can definitely be affecting your game play. My favorite ROM is Eclipse 2.1 Build 4 (Android 4.1.2) with the latest LeanKernel. It's by far the most stable and fastest ROM/kernel combo I've tested on my Gnex. I can overclock the CPU from 1200MHz to 1650MHz, and the GPU from 307MHz to 512MHz. You can also force 16-bit transparency for even more graphics performance.
If someone can PM me a link to the emulator and game, I can test it and report back.
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Pokemon has anti-piracy features so you'll get trouble emulating it.
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Even though you have the right to have a rom as a backup to the actual game and also there are anti-piracy ar codes and patches for the roms. That's how people bypass them.
pokerapar88 said:
Well... all my GBA pokemon roms work fine on my galaxy note but all ds games run crappy. Its not only about processing power as the original ds has the same hardware as an old Android Phone, but mostly about coding. Ds emus on Android are on diapers. Les hope they manage to make them work better later on. Right now i play ds games on my pc. Flawlessly i must say.
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Just to add what Speedyink and Iloqutiss has already said, it's not about the sheer power, in fact, we can theoretically easily reach sky-high frame per second with our hardware, but emulators are not coded for high frame rate, it's coded for, well, emulation, it needs to mimic the target hardware platform, and this includes the accuracy and latency, and this means a hell lot of processing power, which will whether you like it or not, reduces the speed considerably.
Emulator is not coded for being fast, it's coded for being accurate, here's a good writeup by Ars about how emulators generally works: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/...-3ghz-quest-to-build-a-perfect-snes-emulator/
EDIT I just realized I quoted the wrong person, whoops, corrected.
4x the power of the consloe? Damn i thought only 2x was needed
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4x the power of the consloe? Damn i thought only 2x was needed
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Its more like 10x
Toro | Xylon | AK Diamond
negrobembon said:
I can run the latest pokemon games(black 2) without lag at full speed on my laptop
Its only single core 3ghz processor but still, if it could be done for pc's then it will be done for phones, specially with 1.9 quad monsters like the gs4 coming this year
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FYI... phones are just reaching toward the power of a Pentium m @ 2ghz CPU wise. PM does 7k+ MIPS and 3.9gflops @1.7ghz which it takes a quad in a phone to compete with and it still doesn't reach that. Can't compare your laptop to your phone as even a low end laptop is vastly more powerful than a high end phone. Your 3ghz single core pastes the quads of todays phones. I.e a POS pentium 4 @ 3ghz will avg 4.4gflops, while my quad exynos will avg 200-300mflops... accounting for dalvik lag I'd assume peak I'd see is 3gflops in ideal conditions which is still a fair way from even a Pentium 4. And then to even compare it to the core architecture is a joke because it will get beat every time. Arm wins hands down in performance/Watt though and I don't see that changing any time soon
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gs4 emulation
I have the gs4 and it runs up to black and white 2 but extremely slow, ds emulation needs more work id say

Advanced Gaming on The M9

So with the raw power that the M9 has, would it be possible to play console games on it or even PC games? Im talking like dying light, FC4, BF4, etc. maybe through an emulator or something? I would love to play my PC games on my phone
i tried god of war the psp game using psp emulator
its run like 8-10 FPS without any enhancement
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i tried god of war the psp game using psp emulator
its run like 8-10 FPS without any enhancement
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And thats PSP? huh...
So i guess bf4, if it were possible, would get terrible frame rates. bummer.
Quadrider10 said:
And thats PSP? huh...
So i guess bf4, if it were possible, would get terrible frame rates. bummer.
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beside , there is no BF4 on android
Quadrider10 said:
So with the raw power that the M9 has, would it be possible to play console games on it or even PC games? Im talking like dying light, FC4, BF4, etc. maybe through an emulator or something? I would love to play my PC games on my phone
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All due respect mate, if you're talking about emulation, even the ps2 is problematic and that's on a high end gaming rig, the problem is the complex processing it uses whilst not the most powerful processor in the world it is difficult to emulate, as for anything like the the ps3 or ps4, I'm afraid at the moment its not possible and if it were it would be utterly awful and that is on a high end gaming rig.
On a phone it really is impossible, high end games like battlefield 4 would have to be created with arm architecture in mind, and even if they did decide to do that, the phone would die quickly and the game would run like a dying dog.
Sorry mate, for now and the foreseeable future the best you can expect is psx, PSP, n64 and maybe ( and this is a big maybe) emulation for the GameCube and Wii, which has been done to a degree but again, runs like a dog.
The only games which are console like which you may be able to get to run are the ones which have been created for the nvidia shield, like portal and half life 2, hardly mind blowing graphics but a really big deal for mobile gaming, I'm not too sure on the nvidia shields processor or GPU but I do know its superior to the adreno in our m9's with that in mind, even if it is possible to get it to run, you have to expect issues.
The only option you have to play games on your phone is to grab a decent pad like the Moga pro and splash top to stream the game to your device. An nvidia graphics card for your pc is preferable for this and a rock solid internet connection for your phone, even then you should expect a fair bit of input lag on those games, this technique has been around for a few years now.
Sorry its not better news mate I'd love to play black ops 2 or even cod 2 on my phone, LAN parties in work when its quiet would be epic.. I think with games like call of duty 2 its quite possible as the hardware in our phones could probably handle most of the graphics but again it'd have to be created instead of ported.
Apparently doom 3 has been ported, that's quite cool.

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