[Q] Sensation or DHD - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi All,
I have the chance to get a Sensation tomorrow for free
I currently use the DHD and think the phone is awesome. Has anyone here had experience with both? I just wondered if the Sensation actually compares to the DHD or if it has any problems etc.
The main thing I can see immediately is the Sensation still doesn't have full root where as my DHD has boot unlocked and full root access so I swap my roms around quite often. Hopefully this will come soon to the sensation.
Anyway, if people who have already defected or played with both could let me know whether I'll feel impressed if I do get the Sensation please let me know your thoughts.
Thanks!

never mind,... only searched the DHD forums... just found this on the sensation forums.
same question sorry!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1170169

I think you should go for sensation as i dont think its gonna take too long for the developers on xda to root it. hope for the best

Moreover its better to have latest hardware to be future proof as the mobile hardware is improving drastically with cellphones having dual core processors and 1gb ram

For free? Seriously? Then why you're still asking this question? Just go for it already. You're the 2nd person i've met who gets sensation for free.
Dammit you're so lucky.
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guliavikas47 said:
I think you should go for sensation as i dont think its gonna take too long for the developers on xda to root it. hope for the best
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Won't be necessary. Htc have announced they will be unlocking the Sensation bootloader via ota in August. The phone is already rootable for those who were light enough to get themselves an unlocked engineering phone.
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For free then yes, as said when bootloader is unlocked devs will support it just think of it as a faster bigger brother to the DHD.
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Thanks for the replies everyone even though this is a double post
Sounds fairly unanimous to me, guess I'll have to pick it up

sensation definitely

I wouldn't go for the Sensation just yet, because I don't see any direct benefits from it, except for the higher resolution screen and the dual-core CPU. It is even a downgrade in some terms, since it's flash memory is smaller than DHD's. 1080p recording isn't a big of a deal, since the camera quality is just as bad as with all the other HTC devices. If you are after the fancy Sense 3.0 stuff, you can have it on your DHD with custom ROMs already. Plus, the high res is relatively new and there are still apps on the market you will have issues with. Thus, I would wait (and I will ) for the next flagship device, when the high res stuff is well established and there are no compatibility issues etc.
BUT, if you can get it for free and can live without root for some time, it's a different story, of course. Since its value is higher than that of DHD, I would probably go for it, but only to sell it later and get the next, proper flagship device

Funnily enough svyat that was my initial thought on the matter but you seem fairly certain this won't be HTC's flagship device. I don't really follow this stuff as much as I used to, do you know something I don't?? Do HTC have something else hidden away that they are going to sneak out anytime soon?
Cheers.

Called the htc holiday
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Flagship phones only remain so for around 6 months, so continually clamouring after the latest-and-greatest is futile. If your Sensation is 'free' on a new 18/24 month contract, I'd be inclined to wait and see what HTC announce in the next couple of months...

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you seem fairly certain this won't be HTC's flagship device.
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It definitely is their current flagship device.
Pasting said:
do you know something I don't??
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Not really, but eventually there will be another flagship device anyway.
mattmiller said:
Called the htc holiday
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This could well be it
mjt said:
Flagship phones only remain so for around 6 months
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True
mjt said:
continually clamouring after the latest-and-greatest is futile
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Wrong. I need to have the best flagship device at all times

svyat said:
I wouldn't go for the Sensation just yet, because I don't see any direct benefits from it, except for the higher resolution screen and the dual-core CPU. It is even a downgrade in some terms, since it's flash memory is smaller than DHD's. 1080p recording isn't a big of a deal, since the camera quality is just as bad as with all the other HTC devices. If you are after the fancy Sense 3.0 stuff, you can have it on your DHD with custom ROMs already. Plus, the high res is relatively new and there are still apps on the market you will have issues with. Thus, I would wait (and I will ) for the next flagship device, when the high res stuff is well established and there are no compatibility issues etc.
BUT, if you can get it for free and can live without root for some time, it's a different story, of course. Since its value is higher than that of DHD, I would probably go for it, but only to sell it later and get the next, proper flagship device
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+1. My criteria for a device is a) Android, b) good spec, c) "supported" by xda-developers
For the last point, read ROMs and the knowledge base.
All the same, if anyone wants to give me a Sensation, I won't refuse

Well... ok, maybe I should qualify my statement.
Continually clamouring after the latest-and-greatest is futile if you haven't got pocket-loads of disposable income. If you have, then go for it....
Since getting married and having children, such care-free days of unbridled tech-spending are long gone....

senstation is faster

sensation in better

Listen it's already confirmed Att will be releasing the htc holiday across the seas. It's estimated the name here in the us would be the Inspire HD. Jus like the mytouch series and the vibrant series. This phone is expected to be packed and quad core probably with the latest dual core chipset by the time it's released, be the best an latest. Wait till the htc holiday, it will be out this year around the 4th quarter of the year.
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Well... ok, maybe I should qualify my statement.
Continually clamouring after the latest-and-greatest is futile if you haven't got pocket-loads of disposable income. If you have, then go for it....
Since getting married and having children, such care-free days of unbridled tech-spending are long gone....
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You can also sell your current device and use the proceeds to buy the next best thing.

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Where next?

I'm in a quandary and I wanted to find out where people are going after the Desire. For me it is pretty much the perfect phone, this is down to build quality and developer support.
I don't know if i can move to a phone that doesn't have as much support, what will i do without all my flashing?!
Anyway, the SGSII is plastic and the Sensation isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination (it isn't the 'new Desire' in terms of changing the game).
What are others upgrading to? I've got 6 months on my contract, do i buy myself out and upgrade or wait it out?
All thoughts very welcome!
Now that the bootloader is unlocked im going with the sensation but a lot of people seem to be going with the galaxy s II
i would wait to see what the nexus 3 will be like, it is coming out with ice cream sandwhich and is proberly going to have a tegra 3 processor and google phones always have loads of development.
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i would wait to see what the nexus 3 will be like, it is coming out with ice cream sandwhich and is proberly going to have a tegra 3 processor and google phones always have loads of development.
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What's the lead time on that? Are we expecting it this year? That will also depend on manufacturer for me too... can't deal with plastic phones!
This might be some sort of sacrilege but I would to see an Android device with the same design ethos as the iPhone 4.
HTC Sensation looks closest but I'm done with Sense.
Galaxy S2 would edge it for me at the moment though.
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Maix27 said:
What's the lead time on that? Are we expecting it this year? That will also depend on manufacturer for me too... can't deal with plastic phones!
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it is expected in time for xmas or in january it is also going to be made by htc or lg, google hasn't desided yet
A friend of mine has the HTC Incredible S and it's really nice, the only problem is, it still has the locked bootloader and I'm not sure how easy rooting it would be.
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A friend of mine has the HTC Incredible S and it's really nice, the only problem is, it still has the locked bootloader and I'm not sure how easy rooting it would be.
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With locked bootloader it is practical impossible to install a custom rom.
Maix27 said:
Where next?
I'm in a quandary and I wanted to find out where people are going after the Desire. For me it is pretty much the perfect phone, this is down to build quality and developer support.
I don't know if i can move to a phone that doesn't have as much support, what will i do without all my flashing?!
Anyway, the SGSII is plastic and the Sensation isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination (it isn't the 'new Desire' in terms of changing the game).
What are others upgrading to? I've got 6 months on my contract, do i buy myself out and upgrade or wait it out?
All thoughts very welcome!
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Although you do not want it, a very good review of sgsII:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
The lg optimus speed p990 seems to be good, too.
If i were you, i would buy the sgsII or wait until the next htc-phone with as of now again unlocked bootloader releases and buy this one.

You guys upgrading?

Hey, with all the new dual core phones out are you guys gonna upgrade from your desire? I myself would enjoy having a dual core phone but its not necessary. I may wait out this generation and go for the next. What are you guys gonna do?
Joshua3109 said:
Hey, with all the new dual core phones out are you guys gonna upgrade from your desire? I myself would enjoy having a dual core phone but its not necessary. I may wait out this generation and go for the next. What are you guys gonna do?
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I would probably wait for the nexus prime, but i guess i want something different now (aka non android based phone)...
I'm going to stick it out for another year or so until 4G handsets hit the UK. Still really happy with my Desire.
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I'm attempting to get a sensation tomorrow as an upgrade without changing my price plan. However on the sensation thread there seems to be a good few issues but this seems to be the same with all new handsets.
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Not really until current projects are still in development. I'm not upgrading to a device lacking a nice selection of custom roms from trusted developers. It would be Pyrrhic victory imo.
Thought I wanted to upgrade, when I first began reading about the Pyramid/Sensation... But as others have said, I am happy to sit this one out and hang on to my Desire. Just having too much fun with it at the moment
I'm going Evo 3D. Need a bit of novelty value!
Seems a decent phone too.
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Not for now i have no needs for something bigger and better.
Not for now. Probably upgrading in Q1 2012 - when a bunch of new phones will come out.
Stick with desire, same reasons as given above... basically;
1) wait for the nexus whatever to see what that's like (and see if htc do a spin-off of that to see what that's like too)
2) wait for an ICS phone (HTC or not - i assume this will be part of #1 though)
3) wait for 4G
4) wait for quad core (rumour is early 2012)
5) my desire is fine as it is at the moment
I can wait till Sep/Oct to see if I am still sticking with Android or jumping ship to iPhone 5, or I could just keep the Desire and get the next-gen iPod touch instead
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I can wait till Sep/Oct to see if I am still sticking with Android or jumping ship to iPhone 5, or I could just keep the Desire and get the next-gen iPod touch instead
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gasp
with apple supposedly 'stealing' features from android (notification/widgets) etc. why would you go to apple?
That said - I can see a reason to go for an iPod Touch a year or so ago... but I'm actually happy with my Android-choice and I think it's only going to get better.
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gasp
with apple supposedly 'stealing' features from android (notification/widgets) etc. why would you go to apple?
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Heh, because history teaches us that apple steals things then makes them better...that's the way they work. Don't get me wrong, i'm just a consumer, not a shareholder, so i'm quite fine with that
I'll be waiting till end 2012, very happy with the desire, there isn't much it still can't do.
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Same here. I'm pleased with the Desire and would probably wait it out for another year until the next wave of Android phones to hit the market.
If I had to choose what I want to have after the HTC Desire, then I would choose Samsung S2 Galaxy, maybe I'll have the opportunity when my subscription runs out, which I have to march 2013 or will be an even more interesting possibility. In any case, I would not go on any other system
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Take away gaming - Can you think of any app that the desire cant do, that the other phones can?
I cant Desire is still right up there with the best, spec wise no but still a great phone
I've had my S2 for about a week now - at first I didn't really like how big it was and how light it feels but kept with it for a few days and grew to like it more and more - that's without even rooting it yet.
Tbh I was still perfectly happy with my desire I just had the opportunity at next to no cost so took it - now when I pick up the desire it's hard to believe I didn't notice the difference at first - everything about the S2 other than the standard keyboard is well advanced (which you would expect to be fair).
All i'll say is don't try the S2 or sensation whilst you still have your desire or you might not be able to hold on for the next gen phones!
Budadank said:
I'm going to stick it out for another year or so until 4G handsets hit the UK. Still really happy with my Desire.
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I thought the UK was not developing 4g? I was under the impression that 3g will be developed further since its not that great over here
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I thought the UK was not developing 4g? I was under the impression that 3g will be developed further since its not that great over here
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AFAIK, as soon as analogue TV is sitched off completely later this year, the frequency spectrum will be auctioned off for 4G licences.
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/4g-...-ofcom-details-new-spectrum-auction-50003241/
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Good-bye (and thanks for all the fish...)

After yesterday's disapointing release I finally bit the bullet and got a new 'phone from my network operator. I was offered a choice between the HTC sensation and the Samsung Galaxy II and I went for the latter mainly because I was not impressed with the HTC approach to the GB update. I will move to reading their section in xda.
To all those that have helped me either through lurking on their threads or by answering my questions I just wanted to say thank-you!
Enjoy your new phone! Although I didn't think Samsung are any better at updates lol
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Laters!
if you want updates you need to go Nexus really.
Samsung are flavour of the month for the moment - but remember their FroYo release? It took about 3-4 months after HTC's release...
Failing that you just need to go AOSP with a custom rom - which you can do on almost any handset.
Perhaps you should address your goodbye to HTC directly
here you are
Flashlight
Have you heard of custom roms?
Mates just let him be
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mates just let him be
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Good luck with your samsung things, grass isn't always greener and better in next door!
Well update to Gb which HTC released is in my opinion great cause they just do everything they were able to port GB to desire and than just released it for developers. For some time we will have great custom roms with official Gb, alreadywe have SuperNova by Droidzone.
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killerofsniper said:
Good luck with your samsung things, grass isn't always greener and better in next door!
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The greener the grass the more s*it it contains
I love my Desire
I love the my Desire, and pretty sure it is going to be the Android phone I would use for at least 1.5 years.
The main reason being there are so many Desire users, the ROMs just keep coming and getting better.
Like op i've moved from a desire to a sgs2 for many reasons, mainly my contract was up and I didn't like the lag on the sensation screen! But what gets me is how many people keep going on about custom roms for the desire. Of course there are loads the phone is old in tech year's, I'm sure the same will happen to the sgs2 in about 6 months, but to be honest I don't find much difference between the 2 apart from never having to think about how many applications I can have. Ie running out of memory! As they say you pay ya money and make ya choice.
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I was thinking of selling my desire and buy a Sensation but when I read all those user comments about all the issues I changed my mind, sensation still have that nice look, but when we talk about software I cant say the same of what I hear, now I dont know what to do to keep desire and wait until they release some new phone wich will work normal, or give up of HTC and buy some other brand with android.
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Samsung are flavour of the month for the moment - but remember their FroYo release? It took about 3-4 months after HTC's release...
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True, but Samsung didn't promise Desire users Gingerbread and a new version of Sense and failed to deliver.
I got the Desire based on this, and know I feel they flipped the finger, so I can't really blame OP for ditching HTC.
I'm surprised google didn't have a word with them since google set out a baseline for all phone manufacturers that each handset should get at least 18 month's of updates? Therefore google is saying the max size each version of android is gonna be and the processing power requirements! It's like the htc wildfire this will never see gingerbread as it has the same if not less memory and power than the desire! Yet its a newer phone than the desire! Or is it google just doesn't care? And is letting phone manufacturers get away with it?
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True, but Samsung didn't promise Desire users Gingerbread and a new version of Sense and failed to deliver.
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Afaik Gingerbread was delivered 6 hours behind the schedule and Sense 2.1 was never mentioned by any credible source of information, but as it seems you collect your info from the same people who scream that release on their page is beta I kind of understand where you got that.
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to give up of HTC and buy some other band with android.
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I think this would be the most plausible choice.
lordjester said:
I'm surprised google didn't have a word with them since google set out a baseline for all phone manufacturers that each handset should get at least 18 month's of updates? Therefore google is saying the max size each version of android is gonna be and the processing power requirements! It's like the htc wildfire this will never see gingerbread as it has the same if not less memory and power than the desire! Yet its a newer phone than the desire! Or is it google just doesn't care? And is letting phone manufacturers get away with it?
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If I remember Google said 18 months where hardware allows....
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Enjoy your next phone. I will also change my desire for the new SGSII. I have many problems with the desire´s motherboard.
Ciao
I love when people talk about companies "promising" something and then moan when it doesn't happen. Reminds me of the old days in the school playground...
From what I can see, HTC did thier best to deliver, but unfortunately the constraints of the device stopped them being able to do more. What do people expect them to do, come over and upgrade the memory in each phone?
Some people just want the moon on a stick.
Note to OP, it's 'so long' not 'good-bye'

[Q] Original ICS for Desire?

Does anybody know, if HTC is going to build a stock ICS-version? Because Samsung is going to make one for the SGS, which is released only two months later, and it has more or less the same system specification.
PS:Sorry for my bad english, I'm still a student
No. It almost didn't get Gingerbread.
but the desire got gingerbread, look here: htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
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but the desire got gingerbread, look here: htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
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He said almost. The desire HD isn't getting it, and that's the next Gen of the desire. Case closed
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big_X said:
Does anybody know, if HTC is going to build a stock ICS-version? Because Samsung is going to make one for the SGS, which is released only two months later, and it has more or less the same system specification.
PS:Sorry for my bad english, I'm still a student
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And it has hardware specs superior to Desire, not to mention 15 times larger internal memory.
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And it has hardware specs superior to Desire, not to mention 15 times larger internal memory.
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Also known as: Lazy corporations not caring about the customers. F*ck HTC, bad build quality, not keeping phones up-to-date, only good thing is their customer service which fixed my phone every time no questions asked. Next phone will be Samsung.
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Also known as: Lazy corporations not caring about the customers. F*ck HTC, bad build quality, not keeping phones up-to-date, only good thing is their customer service which fixed my phone every time no questions asked. Next phone will be Samsung.
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You think HTC is bad build quality? Whenever I hold a SGS2 in my hand, ive got the feeling im holding a worthless piece of plastic. I still have a few months to think about the new phone im goinna pick, but I think I will miss Sense too much once I choose a non htc phone.
No, as the others already said, there wont be an original ICS-ROM for the Desire.
And the user "stankyou" meant by saying "No. It almost didn't get Gingerbread." that the stock Gingerbread ROM on Desire is just a light version of GB.
And yeah, its really a evidence of incapacity of HTC to not support a not even 2 years old flagship (at the time it was launched) smartphone. But Samsung and most of the other Android smartphones producers are quite the same unfortunately. Only Sony (Ericsson) showed way more effort in the last few months.
And for me HTC really lost the lead in technology a bit and some people are also saying that the devices of HTC suffer the loss of manufacture quality. My next Phone will probably be a Samsung even though the quality of the covers isnt the best.
There are several ICS Roms in development - but these are all stock.
I'd imagine once HTC Roms with ICS start getting out in the wild, somebody will probably try and port them to the Desire.
Considering the limited hardware, I wouldn't hold out too much hope for them being any good though.
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Does anybody know, if HTC is going to build a stock ICS-version? Because Samsung is going to make one for the SGS, which is released only two months later, and it has more or less the same system specification.
PS:Sorry for my bad english, I'm still a student
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Wrong. Samsung isn't releasing ICS for the original Galaxy S. They might be releasing a 'value pack'.
And im100% sure that the original Desire won't get ICS officially.
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Tell HTC what you think of no more One X updates!

Now that HTC have confirmed they are not providing any further OS updates for the One X and the One X+, I started a thread in the One X+ forum with a survey monkey link to give us all the chance to tell HTC what we think of their decision. Please take 5 minutes to complete the survey. The thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49619827
Many users are frustrated that HTC don't listen to their customers so I compiled the survey to give us all the opportunity to express our collected opinion. Carpe diem!
Yeah, really bad move from HTC! :/
yeah, you pay good money for a device with good spec and you expect, because of the spec you would get more updates other than just JB, poor move HTC
It's not that I'm disappointed by the amount of updates, it's more that the updates HTC gave us constantly broke things. One of the first Updates added a new bootloader which broke the compactiblity of CM10, the update to 3.20.XXX.3 added a new touch driver which broke compactiblity to touch in recovery (at least if you still want to be able to use mass storage/adb) and the 4.2.2 update broke our wifi in october and htc still didn't bother to deliver a fix after almost half a year! I would have prefered when they had just made a single update from 4.0 to 4.2 and even keeped sense 4 as long as they had delived a fully working rom.
An other problem of htc are their kernel source releases: they always wait till the end of the 90-days-period after the rom-update before they release it, even though they definitly had it since the release of the rom update. Take an example at samsung: they haven't updated the note 3 to 4.4yet but the kernel source is already there!
I will never, ever again buy another HTC or Tegra phone.
Vote with your wallet, and don't buy HTC again. I certainly won't.
I think all phone manufacturers should keep phones updated for 2 years minimum as that is how long most phone contracts are for.
In the EU they are already covered by a 2 year warranty, i would expect the update issue to be forced in this region for the same reason.
Here is hoping any way
It is funny that for example LG will upgrade some low end devices to 4.4,a HTC wont upgrade One X and One X+ and they still have decent hardware and very nice display...shame on you HTC
I made my views pretty clear. HTC won't listen, if they do, it'll be a half ar**d support like the desire, desire HD...etc etc. Next time i'm just getting a google nexus phone outright and a 30 day rolling contract. Bye Bye HTC, hope you either learn or sink
The survey it doesn't mention the one x only the one x+, I am all for power to the consumer but HTC won't change their mind. I personally think if HTC had better update support then they would see a better market share. Look at the support Apple gave the iPhone 4/4s. I like HTC phones but I might look else where
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Rotten Ross said:
The survey it doesn't mention the one x only the one x+, I am all for power to the consumer but HTC won't change their mind. I personally think if HTC had better update support then they would see a better market share. Look at the support Apple gave the iPhone 4/4s. I like HTC phones but I might look else where
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What are the features on Kitkat that we don't have on 4.2.2 Sense 5 ?
I had the Frustration of updates when i was on desire z 2.2 and the upgrade to 2.3 (download manager and the toggle buttons) was extremely late in my country
but since hox started 4.1 i have not found Google adding any thing revolutionary that make a lot of difference to the device experience
I have been using HTC because of the build and the design of devices, only thing i hate about how htc handled hox is the brokern wifi on the current build, it has been disappointing
Not with HTC but I can share with you guyes
Do not give a damn whether my HOX gets more updates or not, what I care is the solid system, that's all.
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Not with HTC but I can share with you guyes
Do not give a damn whether my HOX gets more updates or not, what I care is the solid system, that's all.
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It's a point of principle that you sell something to people and two years later you say to them "hey you bought our stuff within the last two years, but we can't support it anymore". Yes it isn't the end of the world and the phone won't exactly stop working, but when it's capable of getting the update and giving us (the people who buy the thing) a better android experience, then why deny us that? Not all of us want to keep getting new phones all the time.
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It's a point of principle that you sell something to people and two years later you say to them "hey you bought our stuff within the last two years, but we can't support it anymore". Yes it isn't the end of the world and the phone won't exactly stop working, but when it's capable of getting the update and giving us (the people who buy the thing) a better android experience, then why deny us that? Not all of us want to keep getting new phones all the time.
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Well that's a matter of choice that how you define "support".
No offence, but I can clearly see now (after the whole jb update issue back then) people who are somehow involved in software development or maintanance do get a clearer view.
Do you expect your Windows XP laptop to have Windows 8 free(which is three major versions later)?
Do you even tried to guess not even calculate what are the costs to HTC to update this phone further?
It came with 4.0, got minor fix, major in terms of effect but minor in version
Got major with 4.1 and got two minors for it
Got major with 4.2 and got one minor for it
The phone is supported, it is evolving and this must have an end. After 4.4 Google might release sonething magnificent too, if HTC provides 4.4, won't you want 4.5 too? Where does it stop? What is the ethical point to stop? No where...
It is just an economical view and that's the only approach you can have.
And HTC is a small company and it has a detailed "overlay software" over Android bla bla bla known stuff.
HTC's policy is the same for years.. I want you guys to stop this for saving your own energy, not for saving HTC don't get me wrong. I don't care how HTC feels, I ***** to their face on elevate
But ppl always consume time and energy about this and I just wanted to point out that its useless, of course you can do whtver u want
Cheers
Yep waste of space thread, if you want kit kat flash one of the 2 variants posted in this section.
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Well that's a matter of choice that how you define "support".
No offence, but I can clearly see now (after the whole jb update issue back then) people who are somehow involved in software development or maintanance do get a clearer view.
Do you expect your Windows XP laptop to have Windows 8 free(which is three major versions later)?
Do you even tried to guess not even calculate what are the costs to HTC to update this phone further?
It came with 4.0, got minor fix, major in terms of effect but minor in version
Got major with 4.1 and got two minors for it
Got major with 4.2 and got one minor for it
The phone is supported, it is evolving and this must have an end. After 4.4 Google might release sonething magnificent too, if HTC provides 4.4, won't you want 4.5 too? Where does it stop? What is the ethical point to stop? No where...
It is just an economical view and that's the only approach you can have.
And HTC is a small company and it has a detailed "overlay software" over Android bla bla bla known stuff.
HTC's policy is the same for years.. I want you guys to stop this for saving your own energy, not for saving HTC don't get me wrong. I don't care how HTC feels, I ***** to their face on elevate
But ppl always consume time and energy about this and I just wanted to point out that its useless, of course you can do whtver u want
Cheers
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well getting a phone on a 2 year contract suddenly becomes our fault if the company decides not to support it....ethical point to stop it would be when most people who've got the one x on a contract when it got released finish that contract. THAT in my mind would be ethical. But of course, there are other companies (crapsung) who updated their galaxy s2 all the way from gingerbread to 4.1.2 with touchwiz. Yes samsung is a bigger company but HTC are there to take the fight to them for market place...no? then i'm sorry....my prejudice still stands.
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well getting a phone on a 2 year contract suddenly becomes our fault if the company decides not to support it....ethical point to stop it would be when most people who've got the one x on a contract when it got released finish that contract. THAT in my mind would be ethical. But of course, there are other companies (crapsung) who updated their galaxy s2 all the way from gingerbread to 4.1.2 with touchwiz. Yes samsung is a bigger company but HTC are there to take the fight to them for market place...no? then i'm sorry....my prejudice still stands.
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Why do you look for a side to put a blame on? You're still using the word "support" for upgrading a sofware to an upper version, but let stay in terms, if we're looking for "ethical", this does NOT mean support. I can get many things as your opinion, but this is NOT. HTC does still support One X, it is not upgrading the software to another major version, that is it. Don't wanna look annoying but I am a software and management consultant and make lots of Support and Maintenance agreements, what you want is not support.
Well, you want an ethical solution.. In Turkey One X was still sold I think ended about 4-5 months ago, and with 3 year contracts. It is also sold for a long time, may be not in Western countries or in Oceania, but deciding just for those countries is not legal right? So, how long the upgrade process should last then? till 2016? 2017? This has no ethical solution. You used the key word, most. This is the best way to measure the economic point of view Would you like to make a market analysis to find out when the One X is sold most? Would you choose a specific month of a year? This is a dead-end bro, believe me.
Again, don't wanna look annoying, but then get a crapsung, you do know they do update their phones further, that is clear from Sensation/S2.
This is how HTC makes their market strategy and you might say that it is clear that ther strategy is not working, but most of experts beliece upgrades are not the main reason for this.
Anyways, I don't wanna "troll" in the topic where people write their opinions, just wanted to share mine.
Cheers
But it´s not about when the phone was released in YOUR Country but when it was released OFFICIALLY. And this was in April 2012 which means that HTC could release one last Update aka 4.4.
But as far as I know it´s not the fault of HTC but Nvidia for not supporting the Chipset in One X/X+ but only the one in the Nexus 7 2012 which means there are no new Kernels for 4.4
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But it´s not about when the phone was released in YOUR Country but when it was released OFFICIALLY. And this was in April 2012 which means that HTC could release one last Update aka 4.4.
But as far as I know it´s not the fault of HTC but Nvidia for not supporting the Chipset in One X/X+ but only the one in the Nexus 7 2012 which means there are no new Kernels for 4.4
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But then are we looking for an ethical solution, if we choose the start point as global release? I may have bought my phone as soon as it is released in my country and it could have been December 2012, and I might have gotten it with a three year contract. Who has the blame for my situation then? And the two is years is something just we made up since "most" of the users get the phone in two-year contracts and the warranty is for two years.
One last update.. But we still haven't reached May 2014, and till then Google might release a 4.5? Wouldn't we want it then?
Cheers
The only way we can change things regarding updates is to try to evoke a law where the minimal update timeframe is set
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Well that´s another Problem with all the phone brands who build Android phones.
The updates take much too long to get released for the phones.
If I would follow your logic we still should get Android Kit Kat since it was released in November. A better example would be 4.3 which was released for Nexus phones 2 months before 4.2 was released for HOX(+).
It effectively means we got 2 big Android revisions (4.1 + 4.2) which means 1 year of support but it was only stretched from April 2012 (official release) to July/August 2013 (last update)
And just for your interest. It doesn´t matter how long the carrier contracts run or when it was released in YOUR country. It´s about unbranded devices which are officially released. Carrier branded phones shouldn´t be bought anymore and/or the consumer shouldn´t choose them anymore to make clear that the way carriers are working isn´t consumer friendly but that´s a whole different point

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