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[Q] Posting confusion ...

I'm a bit confused. I was wanting to post a response to this forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076150&page=233
... and the forum said that I couldn't post to it until I had posted 10 posts total.
However, the last person to post to this forum had only posted ONE post.
?????

Users who joined before the restriction were "grand fathered" in, allowing them to post with less than 10 posts.

Can I just mention that I think this is a silly restriction?
I've been developing code for almost 35 years, and to restrict me from posting to a developers forums until I post 10 posts in other forums is frankly ...
silly ... not to metion useless.
What's to prevent a 12-year old with TONS of time on his hands, to post 10 times in one day and circumvent your restriction.
Whereas, serious developers, like me, are interferred with and hampered.
Wow.

Tuleen Donai said:
Can I just mention that I think this is a silly restriction?
I've been developing code for almost 35 years, and to restrict me from posting to a developers forums until I post 10 posts in other forums is frankly ...
silly ... not to metion useless.
What's to prevent a 12-year old with TONS of time on his hands, to post 10 times in one day and circumvent your restriction.
Whereas, serious developers, like me, are interferred with and hampered.
Wow.
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My friend, this has been covered time and time (and time) again. If you've developed code for thirty-something years, you have the skills and the nouse to help ten members in the Q&A thread. Then you can post in a Dev forum.
Even Linus Torvalds' first post shouldn't be in a Development forum.

I was able to post before but now restricted to post... Now I am trying to meet the requirement.

Tuleen Donai said:
I'm a bit confused. I was wanting to post a response to this forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076150&page=233
... and the forum said that I couldn't post to it until I had posted 10 posts total.
However, the last person to post to this forum had only posted ONE post.
?????
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Try to check your email and click on the url sent to you by the admin, to complete your registration.

oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my....
Does nobody read anything anymore....
Pick any thread in this section and theres a very high chance that it will be another "whaa whaaa whaa I can't post yet" thread...
That is why the rule is there...
I know this isn't helpful and didn't answer your question but it really has been answered so many times theres no need to do so....
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conantroutman said:
oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my....
Does nobody read anything anymore....
Pick any thread in this section and theres a very high chance that it will be another "whaa whaaa whaa I can't post yet" thread...
That is why the rule is there...
I know this isn't helpful and didn't answer your question but it really has been answered so many times theres no need to do so....
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We're fighting a losing battle, bud.

really? 10 posts restriction for all newbies? i am very new

honeydroidbirds said:
really? 10 posts restriction for all newbies? i am very new
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Yes, for the development forums. Too many new members are posting pointless questions that have been asked 100's of times before and cluttering th threads, or just posting thanks. There are Q&A forums for questions you need to ask, and maybe answer a few to get your post count up.

New user issues

I can understand the ten post rule to both assure the integrity of your forum and allow genuinely useful threads to grow without meaningless and unrelated questions posted. That is perfectly acceptable.
My issue is that I can't even respond to a thread I've started myself, which a solution was provided, but doesn't work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27978835#post27978835
When I attempt to post a reply to follow up, I get blocked by the site's ten post rule. Can this be relaxed at least a little? Surely I should be able to respond to my own threads.

kilowattcommando said:
I can understand the ten post rule to both assure the integrity of your forum and allow genuinely useful threads to grow without meaningless and unrelated questions posted. That is perfectly acceptable.
My issue is that I can't even respond to a thread I've started myself, which a solution was provided, but doesn't work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27978835#post27978835
When I attempt to post a reply to follow up, I get blocked by the site's ten post rule. Can this be relaxed at least a little? Surely I should be able to respond to my own threads.
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The 10 post rule should be a 100 post rule IMHO we get a endless flood of ridiculous posts without users first searching. They also post questions and other such offtopic crap in dev areas.
But to answer your question, the 10 post rule is supposed to be for dev areas not general so it looks like there is an error.

kilowattcommando said:
I can understand the ten post rule to both assure the integrity of your forum and allow genuinely useful threads to grow without meaningless and unrelated questions posted. That is perfectly acceptable.
My issue is that I can't even respond to a thread I've started myself, which a solution was provided, but doesn't work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27978835#post27978835
When I attempt to post a reply to follow up, I get blocked by the site's ten post rule. Can this be relaxed at least a little? Surely I should be able to respond to my own threads.
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Your thread is in the device General subforum so you should be able to reply. Give this thread a bit, one of the mods will notice it as they hang out here a fair amount and they can look into it.

what the hell (and so on)
hi xda-developers,
i'm Mobile Device Specialist, Linux Professional and Microsoft Certified Engineer and i'm new to this forum .. and i can't post some stuff to Developers Forums? i know there are many "noobs" as well cause i cannot understand why this is restricted.
Some Peoples without technical knowledge can post some **** without having any glou about it.
Whats going on?
fine77
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I like your noob video

fine77 said:
hi xda-developers,
i'm Mobile Device Specialist, Linux Professional and Microsoft Certified Engineer and i'm new to this forum .. and i can't post some stuff to Developers Forums? i know there are many "noobs" as well cause i cannot understand why this is restricted.
Some Peoples without technical knowledge can post some **** without having any glou about it.
Whats going on?
fine77
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I like your noob video
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You need 10 posts for the dev forums, sorry. The alternative is every forum filled with spam. Getting to 10 good posts really isn't difficult.
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fine77 said:
hi xda-developers,
i'm Mobile Device Specialist, Linux Professional and Microsoft Certified Engineer and i'm new to this forum .. and i can't post some stuff to Developers Forums? i know there are many "noobs" as well cause i cannot understand why this is restricted.
Some Peoples without technical knowledge can post some **** without having any glou about it.
Whats going on?
fine77
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I like your noob video
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If you truly know your stuff, getting to 10 helpful posts should in theory be a piece of cake. It's true that 10 posts doesn't make you a dev but it certainly helps stop spam in the most important forums

kilowattcommando said:
I can understand the ten post rule to both assure the integrity of your forum and allow genuinely useful threads to grow without meaningless and unrelated questions posted. That is perfectly acceptable.
My issue is that I can't even respond to a thread I've started myself, which a solution was provided, but doesn't work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27978835#post27978835
When I attempt to post a reply to follow up, I get blocked by the site's ten post rule. Can this be relaxed at least a little? Surely I should be able to respond to my own threads.
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You should be able to reply to it.
If you agree, please pm me, and I will reset your password to try this out and see what's going wrong.
Likely your account got stuck, or there's a permissions error we need to sort.
If that's ok, drop me a pm. I'll send you a new password to your registered e-mail once done

Cannot post in Development threads?

Any Idea why??
myonlyst4r, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
Remember, your question has very likely been asked already, so please search before posting.
Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.
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You have few posts.
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Loll u need 10 posts!!!
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myonlyst4r said:
Any Idea why??
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A little reading goes a long way, especially in the dev section. You quoted the answer to your question in the OP

aeakin said:
A little reading goes a long way, especially in the dev section. You quoted the answer to your question in the OP
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Hence the reason for the restrictions ....lol

I already have > 10 posts....

how am i supposed to post 10 posts? it will just be spam then..
i mean all i wanted to post was a thank u for my rom developer (krarvind, slim bean rocks) and ask about new features etc

zeddicus0 said:
how am i supposed to post 10 posts? it will just be spam then..
i mean all i wanted to post was a thank u for my rom developer (krarvind, slim bean rocks) and ask about new features etc
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Spamming ten posts isn't a great idea. Try and post something meaningful and maybe try and help some others in the Q&A threads.
Rom development threads aren't really the place to post a thank you, that's why there is a thanks button. Also feature requests probably would be better suited in the Q&A thread for that rom. If it doesn't have one already maybe one can be started.

Same problem.
I am also having a problem posting on development related threads. I am having a problem and cannot let anyone know. I already have 11 posts, why am I still getting the same message that I cannot post? Any help?

I agree that the ten posts thing is ridiculous. I have been pulling my hair out trying to solve a problem, and I found a thread which discussed a possible solution to that problem, but was having some difficulty with it working, and wanted to post the specifics of my problem and how they related to the solution presented to see if it was reasonable to think the solution might work. Instead, I am treated to a condescending message telling me, in effect to take a hike (to put it politely). I don't have time to come up with ten meaningful contributions before I get help solving the problem I am having - heck, I wasn't even sure from the message where I was even supposed to post such messages, since it said I can't post to "development-related forums" - what else is there on a site called xda-developers, anyway? I only found this thread using google to search for this whole ten posts nonsense.
And then, some of the responses by certain moderators seemed down-right rude, for instance one post complaining about how they wanted to thank the author for a post and report some minor issues was countered by a moderator who apparently didn't even read that part and closed the thread, declaring that their post had proved the need for the rule, as the person obviously hadn't learned "how to search" which doesn't even make sense consider the original poster already implied they HAD since otherwise how would you thank someone for something they found helpful and contribute findings on it?
Anyway, the best I could do was to send a private message to the most recent poster who appeared to be knowledgeable about the topic and hope for a reply. They were not the original poster, nor were they one of several other people knowledgable who had previously posted; this is thus a sub-optimal solution. Furthermore, any replies directly to me won't be shared with the world, meaning it won't help anyone with the same problem as me.
And you expect me to contribute in the future after treating me this way?

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The ten post rule is to fight spammers and people who don't search cluttering up development threads with support questions. It's not hard to get ten meaningful posts. I understand frustrations when you're trying to figure out a problem, you've done the best which is ask someone knowledgeable for help, but the rule is in place for a reason.

Are the posting restrictions too strict?

For a long time I've been a 'silent' reader of the XDA-Forum.
Today I wanted to post a question in the development section of a phone. Therefore I registered a new account for me, but unfortunately I was unable to post the question, as there is a restriction saying you need 10 posts before you were allowed to post in a development section.
As the question is quite important to me, I made up my mind and thought: well, then I've to write 10 posts in different forums, so I'm able to post the original question - does that make sense, I guess not?
Luckily I hit another restriction - as a new user you are only allowed to post every 5 minutes
So the question is, is it really necessary to have these strict posting restrictions (10 posts) on the development section?

You would be amazed by the amount of spammers and random posts we got away by these rules.

Well if you have a question it needs to go in the q/a section for your device. The development section is only for development, this is why the rules are in place to try and prevent stuff being posted in the wrong section
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Once you are past the restrictions, you'll find you can do anything. The reason for these restrictions is because the overarching majority of users who are new here refuse to follow the rules on posting. Therefore, the best way to deal with this is to restrict new users from posting in development areas, as these are the places new users tend to abuse with questions or stupid comments.
Once you're past the restrictions you'll find it's OK

oliman99 said:
...I wanted to post a question in the development section of a phone. Therefore I registered a new account for me, but unfortunately I was unable to post the question, as there is a restriction saying you need 10 posts before you were allowed to post in a development section.?
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This is exactly why these restrictions are in place. It is useful when joining a site to learn how it operates first. If you have a question it should go in the Q&A sections, not in Development.
If you post 10 useful and helpful posts then you should be able to move past the restrictions. Pleae don't be tempted to post spam as these posts will be deleted.
All that said, wlcome to XDA!
WB

I understand that these restrictions were put in place to keep spammers and the "of course i used search and googled it" away, but as being a long time silent observer and have tested roms before my first post and didn't feel the need to have someone hold my hand as I flashed away, I felt that I should inform the developers of the bugs I have found or to simply thank them.
But with these restrictions in place it meant I had to spam some threads to get to 10 posts which always kept me away. Well now I decided to get those 10 posts, registered and started (mildly) spamming. Up to three posts now.
What I'm trying to say is that with these restrictions you are also keeping away some people that know what they are doing (when it comes to flashing and testing roms) and don't feel the need to ask questions that have been answered many times before.
Just my two cents.

zer081 said:
What I'm trying to say is that with these restrictions you are also keeping away some people that know what they are doing (when it comes to flashing and testing roms) and don't feel the need to ask questions that have been answered many times before.
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If People know what they're doing then they should be posting with helpful replies instead of spamming. I bet 99% of the questions/comments from People who start these kinds of threads have already been raised on the original thread or is some noob like comment that doesn't need to be posted in the first place.

The fact that you couldn't be bothered to search and find the other 1,000 threads here complaining about the very same thing is proof such restrictions are needed.

XperienceD said:
If People know what they're doing then they should be posting with helpful replies instead of spamming. I bet 99% of the questions/comments from People who start these kinds of threads have already been raised on the original thread or is some noob like comment that doesn't need to be posted in the first place.
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What he said.
Anyone "kept away" by these restrictions is probably better off on another site anyway.
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I went through the same exact frustration with the posting rules. When I read about making meaningful posts vs spam/non-helpful for the first 10 all I could think of was... "well, I want to make a meaningful post in regards to a particular rom in the development area, but to do so I have to find other avenues that could be helpful."
I've got no issue with the tight rules to keep spam down, but I imagine I would have above 50 posts right now in development areas but I always shrugged it off and made no reply, which is not helpful to anyone. Now I'm in the process of getting my posts so I can finally contribute.

swhitney2003 said:
I went through the same exact frustration with the posting rules. When I read about making meaningful posts vs spam/non-helpful for the first 10 all I could think of was... "well, I want to make a meaningful post in regards to a particular rom in the development area, but to do so I have to find other avenues that could be helpful."
I've got no issue with the tight rules to keep spam down, but I imagine I would have above 50 posts right now in development areas but I always shrugged it off and made no reply, which is not helpful to anyone. Now I'm in the process of getting my posts so I can finally contribute.
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I am a new member but I have been lurking for a while. I was just lazy to make an account but now that I want to get involved with helping developers clear up bugs I cant because I need at least 10 posts. kinda sucks

wendys8 said:
I am a new member but I have been lurking for a while. I was just lazy to make an account but now that I want to get involved with helping developers clear up bugs I cant because I need at least 10 posts. kinda sucks
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If you really need to contact a dev you could always pm him
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zacthespack said:
If you really need to contact a dev you could always pm him
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This is true. I just need to up my post count to 10 I believe anyway so I will just blabber for now lol
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wendys8 said:
This is true. I just need to up my post count to 10 I believe anyway so I will just blabber for now lol
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I think your missing the point, your posts should be useful posts.
Try helping people in the general and QandA sections and not just writing pointless posts
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zacthespack said:
I think your missing the point, your posts should be useful posts.
Try helping people in the general and QandA sections and not just writing pointless posts
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I'm not missing the point, I understand what you are saying, I just believe I could be much more helpful in the development thread, and besides that's the reason I signed up. Not to be forced to go help somewhere I'm not interested in. I came to consult with others in a particular section of the forum specifically and i can't until I go somewhere else and post, that's all I'm trying to say. It's not a huge deal just don't think it necessarily helps me in this case. Although I could see some good reasons as to why they do this.
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wendys8 said:
I'm not missing the point, I understand what you are saying, I just believe I could be much more helpful in the development thread, and besides that's the reason I signed up. Not to be forced to go help somewhere I'm not interested in. I came to consult with others in a particular section of the forum specifically and i can't until I go somewhere else and post, that's all I'm trying to say. It's not a huge deal just don't think it necessarily helps me in this case. Although I could see some good reasons as to why they do this.
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The 10 post rule is there for a cause.To prevent the spamming of dev section.
How can I post in dev section? Simple, you make 10 meaningful posts by helping others as zacthespack already stated.
If you can help others in the development section, then I am pretty sure you can do the same in the General and Q&A section also..And what is it that you want to consult in?
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True, but for myself as a long time reader I have a bug to report on paranoidandroids recent beta. Instead of posting that observation, I find myself trolling forums looking for meaningful things to say to get my 10 posts. Its funny that dd-wrt forums don't have this restriction, and I don't see these spamming issues or silly restrictions. Basically I feel that the community on here is a bit sanctimonious and pompous.
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Well if you have a question it needs to go in the q/a section for your device. The development section is only for development, this is why the rules are in place to try and prevent stuff being posted in the wrong section
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I don't get it. Why would I want to spend my time replying to someone in a Q&A section when they could look up the answer for themselves? That reminds me of students of mine asking a question that's answered in the book in bold text. Are we just enabling noobish people to remain noobs and not think through problems for themselves?
Prawesome said:
The 10 post rule is there for a cause.To prevent the spamming of dev section.
How can I post in dev section? Simple, you make 10 meaningful posts by helping others as zacthespack already stated.
If you can help others in the development section, then I am pretty sure you can do the same in the General and Q&A section also..And what is it that you want to consult in?
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i have a serious problem
Dear Sir
iam changing my phone sim 3times continue.
after that iam restarting my phone.
buy my phone hanged at samsung first screen,
after i am updating firm ware using odin.
but my phone not turn on.that is sucked at android factory reset window.
the error is cant unmount sdcard...etc
my phone model is samsung si9003
plz can you help me about my phone how to turn on as usual.
plz suggest me about upgrading.
or give any solution for me plz

d3hilton said:
True, but for myself as a long time reader I have a bug to report on paranoidandroids recent beta. Instead of posting that observation, I find myself trolling forums looking for meaningful things to say to get my 10 posts. Its funny that dd-wrt forums don't have this restriction, and I don't see these spamming issues or silly restrictions. Basically I feel that the community on here is a bit sanctimonious and pompous.
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I don't get it. Why would I want to spend my time replying to someone in a Q&A section when they could look up the answer for themselves? That reminds me of students of mine asking a question that's answered in the book in bold text. Are we just enabling noobish people to remain noobs and not think through problems for themselves?
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dd probably doesn't have close to 5 million users either
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Well, time to close this one as it's just attracting people who want to make ten useless posts. Which will be deleted by the way.....
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Post Count

How do I increase the number of postings beside my name? A part of this forum requires me to have a higher count, but I can't get there by posting there.
Steve

vandevsr said:
How do I increase the number of postings beside my name? A part of this forum requires me to have a higher count, but I can't get there by posting there.
Steve
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just roam around xda; see the questions and answers threads and try to answer them.
you'll get two benefits:
1) Post count will increase
2) Yo will be applicable for recognized contributor soon
Conversely; although its not good but you can post in the threads like three word game, ask a question and answer which will increase ur count.

vandevsr said:
How do I increase the number of postings beside my name?
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Err... by posting? How else? :laugh:
vandevsr said:
How do I increase the number of postings beside my name? A part of this forum requires me to have a higher count, but I can't get there by posting there.
Steve
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I guess you were trying to post in one of the development forums? If so then you need 10 posts to post in the developer forums, however, this rule applies only within the development forums. You can still post in all the others (General, Q&A, Themes and Apps etc.). Though please be advised that you should post useful posts in order to increase your post count - perhaps by helping out other users by answering their questions in the Q&A forums :highfive:

circuit1 said:
Conversely; although its not good but you can post in the threads like three word game, ask a question and answer which will increase ur count.
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If new users decide to post nonsense in the OT threads like the "3 word story" game to get their 10 posts, those posts will be deleted and the account reset back to zero - we class such posts as spamming.

vandevsr said:
How do I increase the number of postings beside my name? A part of this forum requires me to have a higher count, but I can't get there by posting there.
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Posting non sense in order to ask random useless questions in development forums such as:
-WHY MA FONE NO ON?!
-HOW TO TURN MA FONE INTO A SPEED FLYING MACHINES?!
-MA FONE NO CALL...HOW/HOW/WHEN?!
-I WAITED THREE HOURS FOR RELEASE...Y U NO RELEASE SOONER?!
Is like walking into a new school and instead of reading and listening to the more experienced school mates, you just walk to them being that annoying kid that feels eager to fit in but everyone hates...so, don't be that one kid, mate!!
Read, learn, share and then..when you are ready, post useful information in development.
The other option is to deal with jerks like me that love to ban people just for teh LULZ...and believe me...no wants wants to be banned just for teh LULZ!
Anyway...participate pro-actively and you'll be like me someday...loved and appreciated to the point where I get free drinks whenever I go :highfive: *
*Legal disclaimer: I'm neither loved nor I get free drinks anywhere.
Cheers,
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