I am using the HTC trophy on Verizon. I went in to my local store and was asking about a charging cord (39.95 please), and i kid you not, the sales rep tried to get me to upgrade to an android phone. Im happy with my WP7, and have had android and didnt like it. So after telling the guy that i didnt need a new phone, i left. Now what upsets me is verizons lack of commitment to this OS. people want it, i want it, yet they only give you one phone (HTC trophy) with very low specs. My brother in law works for go wireless and his boss refuses to stock any WP& devices. And go wireless is essentially verizon. Thats is the companies stance on the OS. "no, no one wants that. Here, take one of these 45 android phones. They are way better. why? because they are android". Im so ****ing sick of all this verizon android basket. I dont want to switch to ATT to get a good device, but its making it look more and more probable with each passing day that verizon shafts the WP7 people. I know the kins didnt do so well, but thats verizons fault for requiring a data plan on a dumb phone. Point of my rant is this: i want something other than this trophy on verizon, yet they are making it so difficult to stay with them due to their constant hard on for android and their brief love affair with IOS. Another reason not to switch is i was grandfathered in to the unlimited data plan. Why must you make it so hard for me verizon!? I hate you, yet love your cell reception and unlimited data. Get more CDMA WP7 phones. How hard would it be to get that fujitsu number over here? not that hard i would assume. I would pay cash for that in a heart beat. Much like how i paid 400 some odd bucks the day the trophy came out for verizon.
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Amen, I feel the same way, if nothing is at least announced for Verizon by the end of 2011 I'll probably be going to AT&T because their phone line-up is better. It's a pity because I do like Verizon's service.
I'm not even asking for a new phone this year, I just want an announcement of a new phone. They're releasing so many Android phones per year, and they can't announce a new wp7 phone after half a year or so, it's kind of BS.
I emailed one of the higher ups at VW regarding this. I got an email and a call back from his assistant regarding my frustrations. Supposedly there will be new WP devices coming, but they wouldn't give a time frame.
Rumor on the net through a couple Nokia sites say that Verizon will be getting a high end Nokia WP, while AT&Crap and T-Mobile will be getting mid tier devices. I'm personally over HTC's battery life issues so I'm optimistic something better will be coming so I can finally make the switch from Android.
Do yourself a favour, if you see what you like on another carrier (at&t, Titan, Focus S, Focus Flash), check out the coverage and prices as best you can and if everything looks ok switch! Why sit around on a carrier that doesnt give you what you want, whether it be CS, coverage or the device you desire? Buy a prepaid phone, use it to confirm you will have coverage and if its a go make sure to tell vzw just why you are switching. Spread the word about your experience, and maybe in 10 years time they will pull their heads out of google's butt!!
That's probably because Verizon is Google's favorite carrier and gets more from Google than other carrieres do, just like Motorola will now be favored over other OEMs.
the deathstars cell service is awful where I live. Calls are always dropped, and the data plan is horrendous. If it weren't for those two things, I would have switched long ago. The only thing really keeping me with big red is the aforementioned unlimited data.
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I am using the HTC trophy on Verizon. I went in to my local store and was asking about a charging cord (39.95 please), and i kid you not, the sales rep tried to get me to upgrade to an android phone.
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Regardless of what platform he personally prefers, in the end, he wants to make money, and he wants you to upgrade right then and there, and there isn't another WP7 device for him to offer you... what else is he supposed to do? lol
As a sales rep myself, I would attempt to figure out what you want, and get you the device that suits you the best. I'm no Android fan, but if I find out that you like Android, there is little reason for me to try and get you to buy into a completely different platform, no matter how awesome it is. Since you have the only WP7 device on Verizon, there isn't much else he could have done except tell you to buy into a different platform.
But the general idea of your topic, I understand, and its most certainly saddening to see how the market treats underdogs (not only Verizon). Though, I think you'll find that once the dollar signs start shifting toward WP7, the tune of most sales reps will also shift. They go where the money goes.
But when the rep tells me WP7 sucks like its fact and not opinion, that's when I tune out. And its sad because I feel that his behavior reflects on veizons opinion of WP7 in general besides, how are you gonna make tons of cash on a phone OS when you only have one model that supports it? Of course your gonna make a boatload of money if you have 19 phones that all have android on them
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I agree in general that VZW has little to no interest or support for WP7 and hopefully this changes with time as I too have little choice for good reception and am grandfathered on the unlimited data.
Google, Motorola, and Verzon are The Three Stooges. I'm suprised so many people here seem to have missed that...
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Regardless of what platform he personally prefers, in the end, he wants to make money, and he wants you to upgrade right then and there, and there isn't another WP7 device for him to offer you... what else is he supposed to do? lol
As a sales rep myself, I would attempt to figure out what you want, and get you the device that suits you the best. I'm no Android fan, but if I find out that you like Android, there is little reason for me to try and get you to buy into a completely different platform, no matter how awesome it is. Since you have the only WP7 device on Verizon, there isn't much else he could have done except tell you to buy into a different platform.
But the general idea of your topic, I understand, and its most certainly saddening to see how the market treats underdogs (not only Verizon). Though, I think you'll find that once the dollar signs start shifting toward WP7, the tune of most sales reps will also shift. They go where the money goes.
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Blame yourself for the setup....going to the oem for charging solutions is a setup for fail.
Expecting a salesperson to backup an all but discontinued device (because you like it) is a second setup to fail.
Continuing to support that company month to month is the third setup for fail.
Vote with your money, and enjoy the device you want instead = win ?
Seems like the fowl taste WM and the Kin left in VWs mouth hasn't left pitty.
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...then Verizon should've been smart and got the HD2 instead of the Kin !
Ok ohgood, let me clarify a few things:
1. I was looking at charging cables. Its not like I ran in, brow sweaty demanding a cable and willing to pay any price.
2.funny how a device that's Been out since early summer is considered "discontinued". Only reason it is could be because VZW deemed it so. Way to give it a chance.
3.maybe you should read why I'm sticking with VZW (great cell service and grandfathered into unlimited data). I'm sure I mentioned it above. Let me check...yep. I did.
So it's hard to vote with ones wallet when my other choice is a cell carrier that drops calls or gets no service in my area all together. Heaven forbid I would like to get a phone that isn't based on specs from a year ago. So, my point still stands. Google might as well buy VZW so they can just outright say "all android, all the time"
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Oh and to add a point, I wasn't seeking an upgrade. I was just browsing,curious about data cables or whathaveyou, and when making small talk, he saw the phone and started off on "the facts" about why WP7 is awful. So he wasn't trying to find my needs. And I get they follow the money, but as I previously stated, of course your gonna make more money on an OS that has a carrier branded tv and radio spot, not to mention the wall sized posters of android phones in store. Yet every vzw store I've been to had the trophy for 2 weeks in a corner of the store where no one would see it. /end rebuttal
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Oh and to add a point, I wasn't seeking an upgrade. I was just browsing,curious about data cables or whathaveyou, and when making small talk, he saw the phone and started off on "the facts" about why WP7 is awful. So he wasn't trying to find my needs. And I get they follow the money, but as I previously stated, of course your gonna make more money on an OS that has a carrier branded tv and radio spot, not to mention the wall sized posters of android phones in store. Yet every vzw store I've been to had the trophy for 2 weeks in a corner of the store where no one would see it. /end rebuttal
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Yes, I read that about lack of quality cellular service, its familiar to me. He's just using sales tactics that usually work for him, or possibly pointing out reasons other customers have cited for moving to iphone4. Prolly gets him a contract renewal or sale 9/10.
Thing is, no matter how uninterested you are in their hardware choices, you're supporting them month to month.
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Regardless of what platform he personally prefers, in the end, he wants to make money, and he wants you to upgrade right then and there, and there isn't another WP7 device for him to offer you... what else is he supposed to do? lol
As a sales rep myself, I would attempt to figure out what you want, and get you the device that suits you the best. I'm no Android fan, but if I find out that you like Android, there is little reason for me to try and get you to buy into a completely different platform, no matter how awesome it is. Since you have the only WP7 device on Verizon, there isn't much else he could have done except tell you to buy into a different platform.
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You're a good sales rep. Honestly. My last experience with a rep at a VW store went more or less as follows. I walk into the store just to look around because I had time to kill. The rep walks up and asks me what phone I have. I tell him a Focus and that I am on AT&T and am not interested in buying anything, I was just browsing. He proceeds to tell me that my phone's OS isn't any good, and that AT&T sucks (I can't really argue very much with that, though) -- I should switch to VW and get a Droid because they are the best phones available on the market. I asked him if he had ever used a WP7 -- he hadn't, of course. That conversation ended right there and I asked him to show me a Moto Xoom, which is another story.
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Hey everyone, need advice get an Evo now, I have a place to get one, or get a WP7 later and wait it out?
It's been tough seeing my sister with the Evo while I'm still running this old stuff but I'm waiting for WP7.
If you're like 90% of the people who have the evo, you'll be eligible for a full handset upgrade every year through sprint premier ($70/mnth+ on single line, or $100/mnth+ family line)
If I had a handset upgrade every year, I'd probably get the epic or evo. You can always arrange a trade with someone if you really want a WP7 before your next upgrade
I would just get the Evo, WP7 just shot itself in the foot lately. Instead of going forward their going backwards no tethering, no internet browser options. I could go on and on. Ill look around next month for a upgrade as well since my contract is up. I hate to leave windows mobile 6.5 but no more support for my i637 jack.
But then again, it might be about half a year befor sprint and verizon get WP7 as MS is currently looking to only support GSM first.
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It's been tough seeing my sister with the Evo while I'm still running this old stuff but I'm waiting for WP7.
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Honestly, when I put my Omnia II just running titanium up against the iphone and android...I don't really see it all that lacking. I think MS really misstepped by not releasing photon. I think an updated 6.5 version would have really stomped Android. I wonder how close they were to release.
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Honestly, when I put my Omnia II just running titanium up against the iphone and android...I don't really see it all that lacking. I think MS really misstepped by not releasing photon. I think an updated 6.5 version would have really stomped Android. I wonder how close they were to release.
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It might have. But WP7 is still light years ahead of that. Who cares if it's missing a few features at launch that only "power users" really care about? I am extremely glad they took the course that they did. Photon was evolutionary, WP7 is revolutionary in terms of UI and platform. Would we have seen Silverlight and XNA (including Xbox Live) on Photon? no way. We'd still be using WinForms, maybe just slightly updated with some new controls and styling and gesture support. Ever since the Zune HD launched, many people were hoping Microsoft would make a phone based on that philosophy and that's what WP7 is. Metro is the ****.
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Who cares if it's missing a few features at launch that only "power users" really care about?
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Uhhhh.........maybe the power users on this power users forum?
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Uhhhh.........maybe the power users on this power users forum?
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That's where "jailbreaking" will probably come in.
Paperclips your starting to seem very apologetic for WP7, but I can understand why. People just don't want to like WP7, I think were part of the few.
But back on the subject at hand. Yes I'd say get the Evo 4g if your on sprint, because WP7 isn't coming to that carrier until mid 2011. IF your not on Sprint than try other carriers and them make your judgement off that.
How much of you folks truly do use tethering? And who just make another fuzz just because? I'm sure most of you fall into the latter category.
Anyone that needs mobile connectivity regularly would just get a 3G thumbstick anyway. They're cheap as ****, too.
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How much of you folks truly do use tethering?
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I can't say I use it often, but when I do, I really need it.
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Anyone that needs mobile connectivity regularly would just get a 3G thumbstick anyway. They're cheap as ****, too.
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That's not really a solution. I need a new SIM, a new contract, another device to carry with me at all times, I need to remember to pay for it, etc. If I used it daily I would maybe get it, but for occasional use it's just a hassle.
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Paperclips your starting to seem very apologetic for WP7, but I can understand why. People just don't want to like WP7, I think were part of the few.
But back on the subject at hand. Yes I'd say get the Evo 4g if your on sprint, because WP7 isn't coming to that carrier until mid 2011. IF your not on Sprint than try other carriers and them make your judgement off that.
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I wouldn't say apologetic. I'd say realistic. I just think that there is room for more than two operating systems as some people on this forum think. They view every consumer as a power user when it's far from true. Jailbreaking probably will happen but whenever I decide to buy a Windows Phone I'm not sure I will need to. I'm honestly waiting for one that has 4G for Verizon which probably won't come for the second half of next year. For the time being, I'm perfectly content with my Incredible.
I'd actually suggest that the OP buy the EVO if they're getting an upgrade next year anyway. By then there should be a great selection of 4G Windows phones if they so choose to go that way.
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I use it at least 20x a month.
I'm on the old SERO plan from sprint and loath to lose it. I was planning on waiting until some winmo7 phones were out before deciding if i should jump ship, or at least upgrade to a new phone.
I found out that starting tomorrow sprint is going to be offering an upgrade option to sero users which will still be significantly cheaper then the regular plans, but allow me to use any phone they offer. I was strongly considering the EVO, or possibly the possibly the epic. Not sure if i prefer a bigger screen over a brighter screen with a keyboard or not.
Anyhow, i don't know much about winmo7. My current phone is winmo6.5 (touch pro 2) and i've installed a copy of android on it. Other then the glitches causes by running a hacked copy of android, i like android.
Just wondering what the opinions are here as far as the winmo7 operating system compared to android and what the hardware running winmo7 is going to look like compared to the epic or evo ?
thanks
so you already have the feel of the general look/feel of android through the use of the rom you have on your phone now. i suggest looking at pocketnow's videos on WP7 to make up your own mind.
http://pocketnow.com/tag/wp7-videos
This will help you get started with whether or not WP7 is to your liking, and whether you see it as something that can meet your expectations of what you would like in your next smartphone.
Of note, I was reading an article that has rumoured from Wallstreet Journal that AT&T will be the only carrier at launch to hold WP7 devices, so you may have to wait till Q1 2011 to get a device on any other US network. Or you could try and buy it outright if you can, and continue using your current plan.
WP7 isn't coming to sprint or verizon for another year or so. MS says 6 months, but I think its gonna be anywhere from 6-12 months.
http://blogs.computerworld.com/1698...ws_phone_7_launch_what_was_microsoft_thinking
So unless you can wait for WP7 to come on Sprint or switch carriers, it will be a long time before you own a device like that. By the end of october, the general public should have the final release of WP7 and by then you will have plenty of reviews comparing WP7 to Android, iOS, and a squirrel so you will have plenty of information to make a judgement.
of course Omni pretty much has his head up his butt with his guess, so ignore it. Microsoft has actually stated "First half of 2011, and that's being conservative"...so yeah, could be 6 months, could be less...could even be a lot less.
I'm probably going to go with the evo. Gonna see if i can find a local store that has the evo and epic in stock so i can compare them first.
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I'm probably going to go with the evo. Gonna see if i can find a local store that has the evo and epic in stock so i can compare them first.
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Can't go wrong with any device really. The Epic and Evo are both great phones. I don't think I'd be willing to wait.
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Can't go wrong with any device really. The Epic and Evo are both great phones. I don't think I'd be willing to wait.
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I might not wait either. Looks like the price i thought the phones were selling for on ebay isn't any better then sprint - although at least i still avoid a 2 year contract. One phone i was bidding for on ebay sold for just about the same exact price as sprint. Then again - i'll also avoid sales tax on ebay. So - maybe it is worth the wait
scratch that - got lucky - just snagged one for $330. Used for 1 month but supposed to be in perfect condition and with all the misc that comes with it. Seems like a good deal to me since that's $100 cheaper then what i would have paid through sprint, and i dont have to extend my contract either.
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of course Omni pretty much has his head up his butt with his guess, so ignore it. Microsoft has actually stated "First half of 2011, and that's being conservative"...so yeah, could be 6 months, could be less...could even be a lot less.
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How about you let people who know what they're talking about do the talking, as dumbasses usually don't know what they're talking about?
Did you ever think that in what you just quoted, "conservative" can go either way? As in that's AT LEAST how long it will take? Everyone is pointing to and MS is alluding to mid 2011 release, which falls into the 6-12 month window I and other said.
lol, less than 6 months? Thats march 2011 and before.
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scratch that - got lucky - just snagged one for $330. Used for 1 month but supposed to be in perfect condition and with all the misc that comes with it. Seems like a good deal to me since that's $100 cheaper then what i would have paid through sprint, and i dont have to extend my contract either.
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Nice, I'm trying to either buy a fascinate or Dinc digitizer replacement since I got a few scratches on my screen. I really would love the fascinate for that hummingbird.
i know you've already sought after another phone, but just so you know T-Mobile will be in on it as well, so it won't be just AT&T.
Yeah, but i really wanted to stay on sprint because i'm on the old sero plan and NO ONE can beat $30/month for what i get. And someone on here told me that sprint is going to offer an upgrade path to sero users. I'll be paying a little more then what i pay now, but it'll still be way cheaper then any other plan. So sprint has managed to get me to handcuff myself to them
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Yeah, but i really wanted to stay on sprint because i'm on the old sero plan and NO ONE can beat $30/month for what i get. And someone on here told me that sprint is going to offer an upgrade path to sero users. I'll be paying a little more then what i pay now, but it'll still be way cheaper then any other plan. So sprint has managed to get me to handcuff myself to them
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all good . well hopefully WP can improve and capture the hearts of those "wait-and-see" companies and you'll see it on Sprint when you decide next to update.
is winmo7 worth waiting for over android?
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No.
I'm not going to list all the reasons now, but Android is much better.
Personally, I'm still waiting with Android. There is no way I'm jumping ship to Android before it gets universal firmware updates straight from Google. It's a complete fiasco right now.
Hopefully the rumor that it's coming in Gingerbread is true.
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Personally, I'm still waiting with Android. There is no way I'm jumping ship to Android before it gets universal firmware updates straight from Google. It's a complete fiasco right now.
Hopefully the rumor that it's coming in Gingerbread is true.
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I assume gingerbread is the next version/update to android? I'm not worried about firmware updates. Seems like there's enough hacking going on that I'll probably wind up installing a hacked rom anyhow, instead of the official version.
Still waiting to get the phone. Probably get it in the mail tomorrow or monday.
1) You can always install ROMs from XDA.
2) Android phones in general are updated faster than all other phones (iPhone, BB,...).
does anyone know when a windows phone 7 will be comming out for verizon? Since April 15th for the trophy has passed is there another expected date? I've been holding out but can't wait much longer as my TP2 isn't doing well.
Is there any way I can put the Arrive on Verizon? I did this on my TP1 and it was a bit of a pain but worked. Is there any way to do something similar with the Arrive?
I HATE sprint and AT&T and really don't want to switch but I might be forced to for a few months until Verizon finally rollsout with WP7.
I basically asked the same question a couple weeks ago over at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035713, and got the same number of replies that you've had so far.
get an iPhone while you wait, sell for profit if/when that wp7 device drops?
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I basically asked the same question a couple weeks ago over at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035713, and got the same number of replies that you've had so far.
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I was talking to a Verizon associate at one of those mall booths about a week ago, asking the same question. It was comical what I heard from this guy. He basically was unaware of WP7...completely oblivious to it. He was equating it to Windows Mobile and said they already had if the last 2 years. I tried to insert a "but" but I couldn't politely help him to know what WP7 is. So I nodded my head just long enough to make a dignified break away from the conversation and carry on about my business, never to ask that question again of a Verizon associate...lol.
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I was talking to a Verizon associate at one of those mall booths about a week ago, asking the same question. It was comical what I heard from this guy. He basically was unaware of WP7...completely oblivious to it. He was equating it to Windows Mobile and said they already had if the last 2 years. I tried to insert a "but" but I couldn't politely help him to know what WP7 is. So I nodded my head just long enough to make a dignified break away from the conversation and carry on about my business, never to ask that question again of a Verizon associate...lol.
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I had a similar experience. First, I'd filled out a Verizon customer service questionnaire, and complained about WP7 not being out. Then a manager of a corporate store called me, took down my complaint, I told him dates of when the MS offer expired each time it was updated, and told him that I'd switched to Sprint because I wanted WP7 but was forced to switch back because I couldn't have a conversation without dropping the call. He said I may hear back from a district manager (I let him know that my issue isn't with a store, but corporate).
A week or two later, I was out and about, stopped at a non-corporate store, as it was the day that the latest rumor said the phone would be out. I asked about WP7, and one associate said "we don't have Windows Phones." I said, yes, you do - here's my Verizon Touch Pro 2 - but I want Windows Phone 7. They told me they aren't going to have one. I told them of the Trophy, and one associate went to look it up, and he said he didn't see it on "coming soon" so he's not sure what it is. I couldn't believe it. I would expect that the people selling the phones would know as much as I could find on the internet, but alas, I guess my expectations are too high.
I know it's no consolation given that we have no idea when it will come out on Verizon, but if it makes a difference to you, it looks like there will at least be a choice between two phones, not just the Trophy. Latest rumor says that HTC Pro7 is coming to VZW, but doesn't say when: http://bit.ly/dEKU5Z
I'd much rather have the HTC 7 pro since I've always had the WM's with keyboards but cant' be picky.
I'm betting June 30th will be the release date, becuase I believe thats the contract between Vzw and Microsoft. Its just a pain because everyday I feel forced to google verizon WP7 or verizon trophy to see if there's any news.
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I'd much rather have the HTC 7 pro since I've always had the WM's with keyboards but cant' be picky.
I'm betting June 30th will be the release date, becuase I believe thats the contract between Vzw and Microsoft. Its just a pain because everyday I feel forced to google verizon WP7 or verizon trophy to see if there's any news.
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Welcome to my world.....it's only been 5 months now of doing that.... I'm about to give up and try AT&T for a while...that HD7s is going to be sweet (HD7 with a Super LCD display).
Latest word is May 5th (next week) for me it's VZW or the HD7s what ever comes first...sick of this bull****....
There is also the possibility that Verizon doesn't want MS phones. Seeing as how they took it up the back end on the Kin, I'd think they would be very pissed with MS.
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There is also the possibility that Verizon doesn't want MS phones. Seeing as how they took it up the back end on the Kin, I'd think they would be very pissed with MS.
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that, and the tidal wave of disgruntled Att customers coming over for blazing fast iphone4s on vzw....
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I'd much rather have the HTC 7 pro since I've always had the WM's with keyboards but cant' be picky.
I'm betting June 30th will be the release date, becuase I believe thats the contract between Vzw and Microsoft. Its just a pain because everyday I feel forced to google verizon WP7 or verizon trophy to see if there's any news.
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Yes, all of my WM phones have had the slide-out as well, and you're not the only one googling VZW and WP7 every day. We should start a support group.
I don't know about June 30 - I haven't seen anything with that date, other than MS saying first half of 2011. I know I'm getting more disgruntled with VZW by the day, and surely don't want to wait that long. Unfortunately, they're the only ones who provide good enough coverage. I look out the window, across the parking lot to see my pastor standing outside the church so he can talk on his ATT phone. I'm just not willing to do that.
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There is also the possibility that Verizon doesn't want MS phones. Seeing as how they took it up the back end on the Kin, I'd think they would be very pissed with MS.
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It's the other way around. Verizon screwed MS with the Kin by overcharging for the plans.
My wife and I were at the mall today and I went into a Rogers store (Canadian cell provider), and was comparing the Focus to my Quantum.
A sales monkey came over to see if I needed help and we started chatting. I asked him if the wp7's had been selling he kinda laughed nervously and said he hasn't seen a rep sell one yet. He mentioned that one concern is the lack of multi-tasking. I kinda find that hard to believe. That used to be the rallying cry of all anti-apple people, yet they sold like crazy. And I've yet to see one 'in the wild'. Anecdotal I know, but kinda disappointing. I think it's a fantastic OS, I thought more people would be into it.
Many people are into it.
The sales man is only a sales man. He only wants to sell you what ever he thinks he can make money off.
As it stands the multitasking functionality is about the same as the iphone, but with MANGO on its way, that will be fixed.
Don't worry, generally sales rep don't know what they are talking about, they just know the basic/general stuffs.
If I'm the sales officer,I would not reckon this device to any customer,until 2nd gen of devices or mango are released.
@FooisM, most of the consumers not even know what is WP7,so,whats the point telling them about Mango?lol....
@JC_agga, yea true,they just know basic and general stuffs,that is what ordinary or normal customers want.
you have to do your own homework... sales ppl will sell u what they suppose to or get more commission or old stocks....
i changed 3 Bluray 3D DVD players in past 4 months, as i trusted the sales man....
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you have to do your own homework... sales ppl will sell u what they suppose to or get more commission or old stocks....
i changed 3 Bluray 3D DVD players in past 4 months, as i trusted the sales man....
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Either that or what they know actually works and has full functionality. Just a thought.
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Either that or what they know actually works and has full functionality. Just a thought.
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Not around here sadly. From the few stores around my place, if you don't have an Iphone, that makes you an idiot to them.
To be fair even after all the debacle i've been through with my Omnia 7 I would still reccomend WP7. The OS is just fantastic.
Samsung phones however... I will not reccomend!
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To be fair even after all the debacle i've been through with my Omnia 7 I would still reccomend WP7. The OS is just fantastic.
Samsung phones however... I will not reccomend!
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Agree perfectly!!!!!! OS brilliant! Samsung has let me downnnnn hardware problems to often!
I love my sammy Focus. When I went to the ATT store to get my wife the same phone, the salesman said good things about the phone, asked me about my experience. I didn't get any anti-wp7 vibe from my att store, but ymmv. By the time I decide to make a purchase, I find that I generally know a lot more about the items than the saleperson. Not always, not generally so.
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I love my sammy Focus. When I went to the ATT store to get my wife the same phone, the salesman said good things about the phone, asked me about my experience. I didn't get any anti-wp7 vibe from my att store, but ymmv. By the time I decide to make a purchase, I find that I generally know a lot more about the items than the saleperson. Not always, not generally so.
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In Portugal when I went to buy my Omnia 7in January the salesguy had a Mozart and he loved it, almost forced me into WP7.. LOL
No regrets about the OS nor about Samsung... My Omnia is running 7392 always officially updated and no problems so far...
Yeah, I don't know why ppl complain about Samsung. I think they're a great hardware company and I'm very happy with my Omnia 7. Before I had a Samsung Wave with bada, and it was nice too !! No problems at all !!
I didn't have any problems with the update on the Omnia 7 as well.
Well, if he is a cell phone salesman he is either very young probably not very knowledgeable or if older probably made a lot of mistakes in life to end up at that point.... In either event I wouldn't worry about it. Just enjoy your phone and rock on.
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Well, if he is a cell phone salesman he is either very young probably not very knowledgeable or if older probably made a lot of mistakes in life to end up at that point.... In either event I wouldn't worry about it. Just enjoy your phone and rock on.
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LOL that's horrible!
isn't this like letting a car sales man telling you what to buy? If you're going to lay down 500$ you better do your research before walking into any store (or you deserve what you get).
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Well, if he is a cell phone salesman he is either very young probably not very knowledgeable or if older probably made a lot of mistakes in life to end up at that point.... In either event I wouldn't worry about it. Just enjoy your phone and rock on.
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That was amazing.
share any of your sales issues here
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now im not on verizon and the only reason im coming over is for this phone. (BE WARNED - RANT COMING)
I've been on sprint for about 10 years now, the past 3 years i have been on an employee plan paying 30$/month for unlimited everything. The sad thing is, i feel bad for the people paying full price on sprint because im located in Rochester NY and sprint service should be great here but i rarely get service indoor's recently. 4G is a joke and Rochester was one of the first places to get it turned on. So im happy to move to a better network and brought myself to pay the extra $ for the service.... so enough about how sprints network is going down hill and on to how Verizon F***ED this launch up royally.
Maybe i hate Verizon for not mentioning a word about this phone. Maybe its because the Galaxy Nexus has been out for almost a month overseas. Maybe its because i feel like not only have i been waiting for this phone but i've also been waiting for Google to release an exciting new OS. Maybe it's the fact that i KNOW this phone can compete in the market as one of the best phones and not to mention its the flagship phone from Google that can kick start features like NFC and such. but then i think to myself... What did i just see when i turned on the TV or when i went to that website. ADs for the RAZR... THE RAZR.... ARE U KIDDING ME?
okay okay, i understand, back in 2003 it was the coolest phone on the block. TIMES HAVE CHANGED, Verizon knewwwwww they were getting the Nexus, and they hate they can't call it Droid. the name droid (personal opinion) is UGLY. Im not saying Galaxy Nexus is any better but i dont want to feel like i have a robot in my pocket. The Razr just came at the wrong time and VZ spent to much money with s$itty advertising like they always do.
I was really really hoping to see some type of great marketing strategy by verizon starting this week. Something along the lines of this:
Mon Night Football. 5 to 10 second commercial, completely white background and just out the nexus right in the middle of the high def screen. no music. mahyeb a piano key or smething, with just a shot of this beauty... then at the very end, flash Verizon so people know, that phone is coming to VZ, wow!!?? (and yes i would love to see a "with Google" slapped in there somewhere but we all know Verizon would have a heart attack promoting anyone but themselves)
and keep showing the commercial every day with a count down until the release date (which i was hoping the 9th) so it would have been even sweeter to see that commercial knowing i can freakin get that this week!?!
people know the verizon brand, they like the verizon brand becuase its associated with a good network. FOCUS ON YOUR PRODUCT, THE BEST ONE U HAVE. make people say, woahhhhhh what was that???? and im not talking about the people like us who wait and wait and wait knowing we will hold out for this, im talking about your average consumer, the one who see's a product and says, damn thats good looking, i WANT that. i WANT THAT NEOWWWZ!
(hell i even made a s$hitty youtube video to get my point across)
but no. No commercials, no internet Ad's, only one spot on thier website to put your email in a box (which NO ONE likes giving out) for more information....
Verizon, you messed up. You had a chance to make a boat load even more of cash and you missed out. im not even your customer yet and i dread the fact ill be stuck with you for two years.
and now we have this, no Google wallet. im highly confident once developers get their hands on this phone they will find a way to make it work, but instead Verizon points the finger and says its not them. WHY IN THE HELL WOULD GOOGLE NOT WANT TO HELP ITS OWN NEW SERVICE?!? It just doesnt make sense.........
alright, i just blacked out with anger/frustration while typing this so i hope it makes sense and i hope other people see what im seeing...
oh, and one last note.. This ones for you Google. i hope you paid attention to this whole launch. i hope you learned your leson about dancing with the RED DEVIL. They will take your masterpiece and piss all over it.
In my opinion the main problem with this launch is that Google and Samsung allowed Verizon to take control of it. I hate to compare to Apple, but they take full control of their product launches and do not allow the carriers to tamper in any way. Samsung and Google should have grown some balls and had the phone launched their way. If Verizon did not want to play ball then they just release the unlocked version here as they did in the past.
Cool story bro. Lol @ video. Lame but funny.
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No rant here
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how?
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special treatment for business account holders! My rep always takes care of me with devices before they come out. My company has over 650 lines with them... I give them a lot of money each month this is the least they can do!
had a couple problems with it once i got it but i worked everything out. Yup already rooted and bootloader unlocked! new facebook app is bad ass! had the Rezound do miss the sync contacts
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special treatment for business account holders! My rep always takes care of me with devices before they come out. My company has over 650 lines with them... I give them a lot of money each month this is the least they can do!
had a couple problems with it once i got it but i worked everything out. Yup already rooted and bootloader unlocked! new facebook app is bad ass! had the Rezound do miss the sync contacts
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Maybe I should talk to my account Rep.
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No ETA on this yet how sad just got off the phone with Costco district manager he just received an email about the push back could be awhile
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jfgirard0423 said:
special treatment for business account holders! My rep always takes care of me with devices before they come out. My company has over 650 lines with them... I give them a lot of money each month this is the least they can do!
had a couple problems with it once i got it but i worked everything out. Yup already rooted and bootloader unlocked! new facebook app is bad ass! had the Rezound do miss the sync contacts
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Hmm, that's weird. My company spends just shy of $100k a year on Verizon devices (somewhere around ~800 lines currently)...and my rep is just as unable to get one to sell as anyone else.
And he is the rep for 5 other companies around our size.
I think there's a much better chance you're a Verizon employee or were able to play with one in the immediate vicinity.
Your bigger rant should be how a company the size of VZW can hose their entire LTE network with each introduction of a new device.
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Your bigger rant should be how a company the size of VZW can hose their entire LTE network with each introduction of a new device.
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Yeah, and you can bet that the resolution will be quiet and nothing else ever said of this outage.
"Isolated" will be the spin. I was going to head over to Verizon and eBay the GSM GNEX I have, but I just can't fork over $85 for a tiered plan when I have unlimited on ATT for $40 after taxes (2nd line on plan).
Oh well.
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Hmm, that's weird. My company spends just shy of $100k a year on Verizon devices (somewhere around ~800 lines currently)...and my rep is just as unable to get one to sell as anyone else.
And he is the rep for 5 other companies around our size.
I think there's a much better chance you're a Verizon employee or were able to play with one in the immediate vicinity.
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sitting at home watching tv more than happy to post another pic! but promise you business rep got it for me! it will be released next week. I know because i did 10 upgrades for a couple of co-workers. thats when he said they will get them. but doesnt matter. dam phone has NO 4g LTE have this bad boy on wifi. But i own a company in the healthcare industry! not Verizon. give you another hint its in TEXAS!
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sitting at home watching tv more than happy to post another pic! but promise you business rep got it for me! it will be released next week. I know because i did 10 upgrades for a couple of co-workers. thats when he said they will get them. but doesnt matter. dam phone has NO 4g LTE have this bad boy on wifi. But i own a company in the healthcare industry! not Verizon. give you another hint its in TEXAS!
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Man, you are one posting maniac about your Verizon GNEX.
Congrats I suppose.
Had my GSM version for 3 weeks. Welcome to the club and keep letting everyone know how your business rep put you on a pedestal, lol.
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Man, you are one posting maniac about your Verizon GNEX.
Congrats I suppose.
Had my GSM version for 3 weeks. Welcome to the club and keep letting everyone know how your business rep put you on a pedestal, lol.
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Sorry. Just excited about the phone. Don't mean to be out of line.
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Sorry. Just excited about the phone. Don't mean to be out of line.
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Haha, I don't blame you. Didn't mean to come off as a jerk if I did.
Hell, I'd be doing the same. Enjoy it!
lol the op is a joke. He probably wasted 15-20minutes of his life to complain to a whole bunch of people he doesn't eve know ... ahhaha
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sitting at home watching tv more than happy to post another pic! but promise you business rep got it for me! it will be released next week. I know because i did 10 upgrades for a couple of co-workers. thats when he said they will get them. but doesnt matter. dam phone has NO 4g LTE have this bad boy on wifi. But i own a company in the healthcare industry! not Verizon. give you another hint its in TEXAS!
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Not saying I necessarily don't believe you, just saying the "don't sell yet" thing is pretty hard...they probably aren't even allowing the devices to activate on the network yet.
Beyond that, not a single person knows the date it's releasing now. The update said "indefinite", meaning nobody knows for sure. It's just suspected for next week, at the moment.
I won't promise anything but I will call rep tomorrow for some info
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Thanks for the reply king shady, u prob just wasted 5 mins reading even tho u don't care lol. All in good fun tho, just pissed at vz, ill get one sooner or later
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I disagree.
Seriously. Think about it from Verizon's perspective. Why would they put money and advertising behind the Nexus phone when they have the Rezound and Razr that just came out and are of similar specs? They control the user experience on those devices and can put their subscription apps preloaded on them. Not true with the Galaxy Nexus. Of course they're going to market the hell out of the devices that make them more money.
That said, I agree that Samsung/Google should have taken more charge with this launch. Nexus devices are about no compromise, pure Android experiences, and no carrier/OEM tampering. What I've seen of the Verizon version has contradicted this in a few ways before the phone is even out. Makes me very happy I got the GSM version. But at least the LTE one is unlocked and there will be plenty of ROMs and support for it.