I don't know if it has been posted but there has been a surge of DIY of inductive charging in order to get it to work with our phones.
Now I've checked out the back covers and mats that are coming out for our phones and no offense to anyone but they look awful. It takes away from the sleek design and feel of the phone.
Okay enough talking, check it out for yourself:
This one is for our phone, the Vibrant / i9000:
http://www.qianqin.de/2011/09/18/samsung-galaxy-s-wireless-inductive-charging-mod/
This one is for the Epic 4G, which gives greater detail on how to do it:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ep...c-4g-touch-stone-mod-details-lots-photos.html
Hope this inspires some of you guys to get creative and have a cool unique Vibrant
UPDATE::: 9/30/11
For those who do not feel like reading through threads.
Here is a detailed guide on how to mod your vibrant or any other phone for that matter (without a metal back case) to have inductive charging.
http://youtu.be/0ga4N_Ih9GE
You're welcome.
Love it!
love it , but i also need a inductive charger to charge my inductively chargeable vibrant )
The first link has that. If you look at the video the guy uses a palm stone in order to do the charging. You would buy it as a set.
Sorry for the double post but here is another guide. This one is done all internally without the wires hanging out. In a little while there will be a video outlining the whole thing, if people want me to post that I can do that as well..
http://blog.qinyujie.net/2011/09/24/557/
Has anyone with a Vibrant tried this? I feel like they should and then I might...
The mod shown takes the microUSB slot so its unusable. Qian Qin is currently working on doing a mod which retains the microUSB intact and is all done inside the phone circuits. It will be more advanced and definitely require you to take the whole phone apart but the result should be far more awesome. I'm waiting for that one before doing it.
He finished his video today!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ga4N_Ih9GE&feature=player_embedded
This is what Alienz was talking about, having the inductive charger without interfering with the micro usb.
That video is SUPER detailed and easy to get. I just ordered all the parts. $23 total shipped.
Will be doing this mod next week. Will be awesome when I'm inductively charging my 1800mah genuine Samsung Galaxy SII Touch battery in my Vibrant
Will this mod work if I use a tpu case cover? or must be without anycase thanks.
That is so bad ass!!
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Whats that gold stuff called? I'm going to go to go my local hardware store and get some.
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That is so bad ass!!
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Whats that gold stuff called? I'm going to go to go my local hardware store and get some.
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Do you mean the self-adhesive copper foil? It's very affordable.
I'm definitely working on this next week already ordered everything I need. All in all - $20
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I have a HP Touchpad and have the inductive charger for it.
The Touchpad is in a Leather case and even when I have the case open (that's 2 flaps of fat leather now), the inductive charging works just fine.
SO, I think it's safe to say that regardless of what case you have (unless it's some sort of metal of insulating one), charging will work just fine.
Man how are you guys getting the parts so cheap? I ordered mine off ebay and it was about $30 shipped.... Not that I'm complaining, it's still a good price but I feel like I'm missing something.
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Man how are you guys getting the parts so cheap? I ordered mine off ebay and it was about $30 shipped.... Not that I'm complaining, it's still a good price but I feel like I'm missing something.
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The power of Google my friend, the power of Google.
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The power of Google my friend, the power of Google.
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I guess my google force isn't as strong as others... haha.
What guage of wire to use? is too thin going to be a issue with overheating?
Just tried the mod.
Nearly impossible to solder those wires without a microscope. I have a very good soldering iron and without a magnifying glass its just not a good idea to do. Pretty sure I ****ed my phone up cause I think I shorted 2 pins. :/
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You could put a razor blade between the pins to prevent bridging the pins.
Finally completed my inductive charging mod after many iterations. I took my phone apart 4 times because of quircks I thought may be due to the wire but in the end weren't.
By the end, I was such an expert it took me under 5 minutes to fully disassemble the phone. Sad I know.
But you only care about results right?
RESULTS:
PROS:
-Inductive charging just as shown in the video
CONS:
-HARD procedure. From taking the phone apart to figuring out exactly how everything is supposed to go. It's deceptively simple in the video but in practise will take you a while. For example, it is not shown that the inductive charging circuit makes the phone very hard to close using the original cover and hence, a lot of adjustments must be made.
-DOES NOT WORK WITH A CASE. That's right, this mod does not work with ANY case attached to it. The Pre touchstone is apparently too weak for that. That was the deal breaker for me. After getting it to fully work, I dismantled it angrily when I found no practical way of having a case on and using this.
-Costs money. Costs of 20-$30 depending on what you need and get.
-Expect to sink quite some time into this as well.
Overall, if you don't use a case with your phone, you can consider doing this mod. For the vast majority of users though, this is not practical. I will next try to incorporate this mod into a case and see if I can do that instead with a removable slim microUSB. I find the soldering wires on the inside and whole procedure to be a bit too risky.
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Finally completed my inductive charging mod after many iterations. I took my phone apart 4 times because of quircks I thought may be due to the wire but in the end weren't.
By the end, I was such an expert it took me under 5 minutes to fully disassemble the phone. Sad I know.
But you only care about results right?
RESULTS:
PROS:
-Inductive charging just as shown in the video
CONS:
-HARD procedure. From taking the phone apart to figuring out exactly how everything is supposed to go. It's deceptively simple in the video but in practise will take you a while. For example, it is not shown that the inductive charging circuit makes the phone very hard to close using the original cover and hence, a lot of adjustments must be made.
-DOES NOT WORK WITH A CASE. That's right, this mod does not work with ANY case attached to it. The Pre touchstone is apparently too weak for that. That was the deal breaker for me. After getting it to fully work, I dismantled it angrily when I found no practical way of having a case on and using this.
-Costs money. Costs of 20-$30 depending on what you need and get.
-Expect to sink quite some time into this as well.
Overall, if you don't use a case with your phone, you can consider doing this mod. For the vast majority of users though, this is not practical. I will next try to incorporate this mod into a case and see if I can do that instead with a removable slim microUSB. I find the soldering wires on the inside and whole procedure to be a bit too risky.
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thank you for your feedback and insight. i am going to attempt this later today, any tips on how to get the solder just right lol that initial soldering is what worries me the most....whats the best way to go about the initial soldering so as to not short out the pins.
either way, i will give my results and feedback asap when i have time to attempt this later today.
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http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...cm_ite=**Slick Deals**&cm_ite=**Slick Deals**
Just bought one for my mod and another for my mom's Pixi. Thank you Verizon!
source: http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g/117754-touchstones.html
yeah, got one too but I'm kinda of afraid to mess with my EVO like that and do the hack...
hack posted here: http://www.goodandevo.net/2010/06/h...rk-with-palm-touchstone-wireless-charger.html
I'm an electrical engineer and I have the $7 insuarance. Worst that can happen is I fry my phone, say I lost it, and pay the deductible for a new phone.
This may be worth the $50 risk to be able to charge without plugging in a cable every night.
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I'm an electrical engineer and I have the $7 insuarance. Worst that can happen is I fry my phone, say I lost it, and pay the deductible for a new phone.
This may be worth the $50 risk to be able to charge without plugging in a cable every night.
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yeah, sounds tempting but I'm not an electrical engineer nor do I have the TEP insurance yet, nor would I be willing to pay the $100 deductible if I had the insurance.
still tempting though. is it that risky to do it?
I thought the TEP was a $50 deductible?
If you're ok with soldering, it should be a really easy job. If you've never soldered electronics... probably not.
$50 deductible for flip phones, $100 for smartphones/featurephones. also, the ones with the $50 deductible are $4/month i think.
I am actually doing this right now with a Palm PIXI touchstone back ($6 at Radio Shack BTW)
I have added pressure joints (taking apart an old SIM card for the sturdy golden pads) so that you never need to solder to the inducting circuit. This makes it so that you can FULLY take off the back over. Just some thin double sided tape and electrical tape does the job. Used 28AWG teflon coated SPC for my internal wiring.
I am waiting for my Touchstone docks to come in for testing, but I have high hopes.
I have insurance and its not my first time at modding the internals of a portable (iPods, iPod Touch, iPhone). Plus this just makes it soo much cooler. Have a solar panel I plan on adding too, just haven't figured out a way to make it look good yet which is a big requirement IMO.
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I am actually doing this right now with a Palm PIXI touchstone back ($6 at Radio Shack BTW)
I have added pressure joints (taking apart an old SIM card for the sturdy golden pads) so that you never need to solder to the inducting circuit. This makes it so that you can FULLY take off the back over. Just some thin double sided tape and electrical tape does the job. Used 28AWG teflon coated SPC for my internal wiring.
I am waiting for my Touchstone docks to come in for testing, but I have high hopes.
I have insurance and its not my first time at modding the internals of a portable (iPods, iPod Touch, iPhone). Plus this just makes it soo much cooler. Have a solar panel I plan on adding too, just haven't figured out a way to make it look good yet which is a big requirement IMO.
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can you post some pics please? thanks
Ordered! I'm so doing this.
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can you post some pics please? thanks
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Yeah! Absolutely, once I make sure that it actually works like it is supposed to!
I am moving this weekend, so at the earliest it will be a week.
LOL, more more use for old cellphone crap (SIM CARD from old ATT phone)....
got my order today. wasn't this thing supposed to come with a usb cable included? there is only the dock in the box and the cover in a separate box.
O guess it uses one of those very small mini usb plugs and I don't have a cable for it laying around
I wonder what kind of efficiency the set up has compared to the stock covers for the palm devices. As the coil moves away from the touchstone it will lose power exponentially as the distance increases.
I have Ghost Armor on my Evo, so I can go without a case, but I imagine any case (even as thin as a Seidio Innocase II would be too thick for it to be efficient.
Once I get back to school where I have my soldering iron and dremel, I'm going to try to modify a silicone or ebay-cheapo case and try to inset it with the coil, wires, and try to make my own 90-degree flush mounted micro-usb plug in the bottom. This way you could charge it through the USB using the touchstone, but you wouldn't have to worry at all about opening up the phone.
so anyone have a go at this hack yet?
Just finished mine last night....
I didn't actually solder mine to the board. I put my wire on the positive contact on the board and my negative on the negative screw contact. Put the case back together and taped the positive and negative to the contacts on the pixi charger. Its working like a charm!
Well guys, the ebay seller i bought a couple of docks from has obviously dropped the ball. Time for Amazon....
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Just finished mine last night....
I didn't actually solder mine to the board. I put my wire on the positive contact on the board and my negative on the negative screw contact. Put the case back together and taped the positive and negative to the contacts on the pixi charger. Its working like a charm!
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i did the exact same thing and it turned out fine.. I had the solder gun ready to go but for some reason i couldnt get the solder to stick to the phone.. i guess im a semi newbie when it comes to soldering either way..
Anyway , I think this way is very stable and is completely reversible with no signs of anything having been done.. I feel stupid for only having ordered one touchstone when it was $10!
Guys, This is FANTASTIC and definitely makes for the best car mount EVER! You just stick your phone on he touchstone and go. The touchstone seems to be able to be mounted near anywhere with that semi sticky pad on the bottom and yo can use command adhesive strips anywhere else. It also looks really slick on a black console (mins is and its soft touch too). I have it placed at a 45 degree angle area in the top middle of my main console and it sticks great. The Evo with the palm Pixi back holds on tight and does not come off even with my driving.
I found out that this still works and bought two more touchstones for the house.
Vehicle Charger + Palm Touchstone for $10 shipped!
I'd probably do this (as my previous phone was a Pre so I already have the back and touchstone) but I just don't care to have my compass not work because of the magnets.
The compass while off of the charger still works, just not quite a fast. There ARE NO MAGNETS in the inductive charging back. They are just pieces of steel. They become like magnets when placed on the Touchstone charger. When not charging, it is the same as it always was.
Besides how often do you need a compass in your car or home where a GPS would not be better?
The magnets in the base also do not affect the GPS at all. I have the phone on the Touchstone in my car while running the GPS and have no issues.
So, there is no need to solder correct? Seems people say electrical tape will do the trick, really want to try it but i missed the deal. Anyone confirming this besides one or two guys?
I work directly with China's largest manufacturer of Extended batteries. They finished the AT&T Samsung Vibrant for T-Mobile and I've sold a bunch already with 100% feedback on Ebay. Userid is kevinjmoore. Unfortunately, they don't want to make a mold for the Captivate because they don't think there is enough demand in the USA to warrant it. To prove them wrong, I am trying to generate interest so that I can pay for the door mold charge and have them produce a bunch. The battery is the same as the Vibrant so that part is done. It is a 2800maH, which is nearly double the capacity and does last more than twice as long as stock--I know, I have the phone. Please email me at kevinjmoore at gmail dot com to get more details and help us get this rolling. I've reviewed all the forums out there and battery life is definitely one of the top issues. The rubberized door feel is awesome and it doesn't add a bunch of thickness to the phone like you think it might. Total production time is 20-25 days. My price will be at most $40 incl shipping. I may bring it down if demand is high enough. I will need a minimum of 50% fully refundable deposit. If I don't get enough demand in 30 days, I'll refund completely (less $0.30 Paypal fee). Please forward this, tweet this, facebook this and let's get this thing done My communication and customer service is second to none. We are building a US based website that will be up in 2 weeks detailing the over 35 other phones/extended batteries and hundreds of accessories (including IPAD and IPHONE) that we carry.
I found this pic on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Samsung-Vibrant...448289815?pt=US_Batteries&hash=item1e5f52f017
There is no way I would do that to my captivate. Just make a battery that fits in the factory space that has a 25% more power and i would be happy.
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I found this pic on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Samsung-Vibrant...448289815?pt=US_Batteries&hash=item1e5f52f017
There is no way I would do that to my captivate. Just make a battery that fits in the factory space that has a 25% more power and i would be happy.
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I would do it in a second for double the life are you kidding me! As long as the back cover had some sort of style to it.
unfortunately I'm gonna wait for the seidio 3000mah extended battery.
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Ewwwww...
That looks fugly as hell... I would get 2 extra OEMs w/ desktop charger instead...
Doesn't look horrid for the Vibrant. But the Captivate? Yea.. look like a damn camel hump or a hemorrhoid on the back of my phone. No thanks.
I had one on my Dream and other than being somewhat a nuisance for carrying cases/belt clips it was well worth it. In fact it worked so well I sold it to my buddy who had a dream when I switched to the captivate. He loves the damn thing cause he can use his phone all day long now without having to charge it.
I am a someone who prefers function over cosmetics. If it works better but is uglier wtf cares? When was the last time you looked at the back of your phone and was like wow- that sure is purdy You don't interact with the back of your phone. Also with the back being rubberized I would find it easier to rest on my shoulder during long tech calls with clients as I dont use bluetooth headsets. Just this morning I almost dropped my cap as it slipped from my hand getting out of the car- luckily I caught it, but still with the rubber this is less likely to happen. Again.. function over form all day all long.
I carry mine in my pocket. I like the captivate because it's thin. If I need to I'll carry spare battery before I double the thickness of the phone...I'm just sayin'
Mike
if i had the battery i could make the dies. are you looking to make a plastic cover or stamp an aluminum one?
anyway it would be nice to have on hand for trips or events where i dont know how long i will go without a charger. i dont think i would walk around with that in my pocket but it would be nice to have one available for occasional use and there are plenty of people that have come around here complaining about horrid battery life. i find the battery life quite good and in an every day environment you can always plan around it but obviously some people want more or just like to complain.
If I traveled, I would be all over this. Unfortunately, the $9 2-pack of batteries with wall charger on eBay just doesn't makes this as economical when I can just reach over and pop in a fresh battery and have the old one start charging.
It adds a "WHOPPING" 6 mm to the phone (not even 1/4"). I gave it to my friend to hold and he said he actually liked the feel better with the door that way. It felt more stable and fit perfectly to how you cradle your phone. The door is better than stock and fits easily in your pocket. It is NOT bulky at all. To not have to charge your phone every 7 or 8 hours if you are a moderate to heavy user is so worth it. I can't imagine not having it or carrying around 2 or 3 batteries all the time.
It is 6mm extra on an 11 mm phone (about 50% thicker for double capacity). It's a no-brainer.
i think you'd sell them but i think this might not be the right forum for it, the less than enthused response doesn't mean that people who travel aren't looking for something like this, it just means that we dont have that many people on the forum looking for this. are you getting feedback on your ebay store asking for it?
Email me at kevinjmoore at gmail to discuss.
Correct me if I am wrong but...
Isn't our metal back plate aid in reception? I thought the antenna was in direct contact with the back plate. Seems to me that a big piece of plastic holding in a big battery would give us signal loss...
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Correct me if I am wrong but...
Isn't our metal back plate aid in reception? I thought the antenna was in direct contact with the back plate. Seems to me that a big piece of plastic holding in a big battery would give us signal loss...
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no it appears to be grounded not an antenna but i could be wrong i dont know much about cell antenna design. there are two contacts and one goes to the metal chassis indirectly through a shiny plating on the back of the plastic housing. the other goes to the board but i didn't trace it to tell if it went to the points that contact the chassis and plastic cover, electronics today can be difficult trace.
i know some antennas form a loop and it can very well be an antenna but i find that my phone works fin with the battery door removed. also there is no reason a new batery door cant be stamped from aluminum. or lined with aluminum tape.
I assume that you can't have a battery like this and use a case like the Body Glove Mirage? Are there alternative cases that will work with a battery like this?
A better solution would be a silicone case with a pocket for a spare battery. Carry it when you need to and switch when you need to.
a picture (if you have a functional unit) would be a lot helpful...
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a picture (if you have a functional unit) would be a lot helpful...
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I agree. Any/ all pictures of all angles would be highly appreciated. Only then can i make my decision. I too am interested in this.
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A better solution would be a silicone case with a pocket for a spare battery. Carry it when you need to and switch when you need to.
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Now this wouldn't be a bad idea either....
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I assume that you can't have a battery like this and use a case like the Body Glove Mirage? Are there alternative cases that will work with a battery like this?
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From my experience with the BG Mirage + the specs provided by the OP, its a definite No. Not with 6mm (50% thicker) but i would applaud anyone who would try it. Who knows, it might actually work out. Now if only Otterbox cases work with ANY extended batteries..........then I am ALL OVER IT.
There have been a lot of complaints about the flimsy connector for the Xoom charger. I also think that it is a very poor design at most. The metal pin is too long, the plastic part is poking out too much etc.
I am no engineer and also bad at drawing but I attached something that I think might work. If anyone feels like they could produce a prototype that would be awesome!
The small magnet might or might not work. If you look at the area where all the connectors are you will see a small metal plate that could probably be used to anchor the connector magnetically.
Any feedback is appreciated (even just to say that I am full of sh!t!)
UPDATE: I added an alternative design using the two metal connectors for charging and a silicone plug to keep the connectors in place. A magnet will give additional stability.
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There have been a lot of complaints about the flimsy connector for the Xoom charger. I also think that it is a very poor design at most. The metal pin is too long, the plastic part is poking out too much etc.
I am no engineer and also bad at drawing but I attached something that I think might work. If anyone feels like they could produce a prototype that would be awesome!
The small magnet might or might not work. If you look at the area where all the connectors are you will see a small metal plate that could probably be used to anchor the connector magnetically.
Any feedback is appreciated (even just to say that I am full of sh!t!)
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It charges my Xoom very fast. It is still working and has not caused me any issues. If it breaks, I will come back here to *****.
I was just referring to the connector but thanks for the warning
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I was just referring to the connector but thanks for the warning
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So was I. The stock one works fine however, alternatives are great as well. I just do not see a need for one personally. Others may.
Yeah, the stock connecter scares me. I like your design though I'm not sure anyone here has the means to develop and sell it. I'm hoping maybe someone may find a softwear solution to charge via the USB micro port. What do you guys think, possible or no?
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There have been a lot of complaints about the flimsy connector for the Xoom charger. I also think that it is a very poor design at most. The metal pin is too long, the plastic part is poking out too much etc.
I am no engineer and also bad at drawing but I attached something that I think might work. If anyone feels like they could produce a prototype that would be awesome!
The small magnet might or might not work. If you look at the area where all the connectors are you will see a small metal plate that could probably be used to anchor the connector magnetically.
Any feedback is appreciated (even just to say that I am full of sh!t!)
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I like it! i think its a pretty good idea. Wish i knew someone who could create one. I would buy it. stock one scares me
how the F do magnets work?
anyhow, yeah really good design. I would buy that too.
i just turn it upside down while charging it.
I would buy one of those
I have to ask, why you would use that connector at all if you want to redesign a magnetic charger? Why not use the same priciple to connect it to the two plates on the bottom next to the hole for power?
As someone who repairs laptops for a living, this was the single most troubling design aspect of our new toy. It looks like it will be far to easy to damage the internals of this device with the default power cable.
It would make more sense to use a breakaway magnetic connection that makes contact with the two metal plates. I have not looked in to it too far but it would seem that the docs use this and the USB in them is strictly for audio out.
I was actually wondering if the metal plates would be used for dock charging. Since I don't own a dock I can't check. But if it is then yes, the charger should be attached magnetically! Thanks for the clarification. I'll try to design more options
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So was I. The stock one works fine however, alternatives are great as well. I just do not see a need for one personally. Others may.
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My only complaint with the xoom, honestly is the charging system.
For starters, I don't see a reason to not allow charging over USB. Sure the voltage would only be 5v, and it would take considerably longer, but the option would be nice. This isn't to say I want to do away with the 12v charger, because the speed at which it charges is lovely, just the option for the other.
Secondly, the needle-like connector screams, "I want to be broken quickly!" Was there really a need to make the connector in that type and size?
Thirdly, the placement of the charger port is hideous and impractical. It's dead center at the bottom. I rarely use my xoom flat against a surface. I purchased the display portfolio that motorola made. The charger port is not only a hinderance to the utilization of my portfolio case, but is also covered at all times when using the case in any manner that motorola designed it. I'm sure this is simply a brain-fart on motorola's part, which happens to everyone and is understandable, but is there a reason the charger port couldn't have been placed on one of the sides of the device? I would say preferably the left hand side, as people are less likely to turn the device to sit on that side.
I'm not simply posting this to complain, just express my thoughts on the only true fault that I feel the xoom has. On that note, a 90 degree *honestly 180 degree by the design sketch* connector would be lovely, IMO. It still wouldn't be usable with the portfolio case, but it would allow someone to angle the xoom without fear of breaking the charger off inside it.
The two metal plates are indeed for charging on the dock. It takes away the need to use the stock charger on the needle tip. Just plug the charger into the dock and set the Xoom on it. I charge this way every time.
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The two metal plates are indeed for charging on the dock. It takes away the need to use the stock charger on the needle tip. Just plug the charger into the dock and set the Xoom on it. I charge this way every time.
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Only problem is that's a $70-$120 solution
Why even have the plug then and just use the metal plates?
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Why even have the plug then and just use the metal plates?
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The plug would add additional stability so that it doesn't come off so easily. Not sure how strong you could make the magnets. As I said, I'm no engineer
Makes sense, maybe a smaler nub though haha, otherwise I like the idea
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The plug would add additional stability so that it doesn't come off so easily. Not sure how strong you could make the magnets. As I said, I'm no engineer
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Apple has a patent on the magnetically attached charger. Perhaps this is why motorola went the direction that it did.
http://patft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph...XT&s1=7311526.PN.&OS=PN/7311526&RS=PN/7311526
im gonna make this. I will let you guys know how it works. my first android by the way!
Sweet! I was also thinking about getting some latex and a second charger that I can strip and modify. This will be so cool!
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I just bought one for myself! Too good to pass up (or at least try)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/150903840091
Price? Blocked at work.
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Price? Blocked at work.
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30 bucks... link is to a pebble back....
it appears they are modifying a non- oem back kinda like the palm mod but with actual pins instead of playing with copper tape
oh and for an extra 30 bucks (60) they will send you a touchstone too.... all from hong kong
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Just found this one or 30.00 http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAMSUNG-GAL...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item3ccb30692f
and it comes with a touchstone.... and from nyc... both colors...
now it starts to make some sense to buy a pre-made.....
probably over thinking this but will it charge with a phone case?
I ordered one of these two weeks ago, got it in 4 days (need to sign for the package). Sadly, one of the pins had broken off in shipping, but the seller responded in about ten minutes and has a new one in the mail already.
Product appears to be pretty well made, but the back cover they use a little dinky - the letters are inlaid in silver and one already fell out - so now I have a Samung. I plan to remove the charger circuit and stick inside my existing cover.
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I ordered one of these two weeks ago, got it in 4 days (need to sign for the package). Sadly, one of the pins had broken off in shipping, but the seller responded in about ten minutes and has a new one in the mail already.
Product appears to be pretty well made, but the back cover they use a little dinky - the letters are inlaid in silver and one already fell out - so now I have a Samung. I plan to remove the charger circuit and stick inside my existing cover.
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Scot,
Does yours stick up a bit as in their photos or close allt he way... also What carrier are you (i wonder if it only sticks up for certain carriers)
Does anyone know if the touchstone will work with a basic TPU case on the phone? Not sure if the magnets or charging field is strong enough....
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Scot,
Does yours stick up a bit as in their photos or close allt he way... also What carrier are you (i wonder if it only sticks up for certain carriers)
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Mine is entirely flush (T-Mobile version).
FWIW; the circuit he uses is out of Palm devices - even says "Palm Inc" on the product. Not that there is anything wrong with that...
i'm kinda leery of how the gap pops up... could they not have used pins that are spring loaded so it actually adjusts for the different variants out there?
well taking another look on his ad... it seems just the back is 29.99... if you select it with the touchstone it's 49.99
20 bucks for something amazon has for 5... i dont think so.....
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Scot,
Does yours stick up a bit as in their photos or close allt he way... also What carrier are you (i wonder if it only sticks up for certain carriers)
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i'm kinda leery of how the gap pops up... could they not have used pins that are spring loaded so it actually adjusts for the different variants out there?
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They are spring loaded. As I said, on mine, you can't tell it is on there. It does NOT charge through a case.
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They are spring loaded. As I said, on mine, you can't tell it is on there. It does NOT charge through a case.
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well damn.. they must be some hardcore springs to keep the backing to snap into place 0.o''''''
EDIT: if it doesn't charge through the case, that's a big issue for me.. I prefer not to take my case off and on every time I want to charge the device... I guess i'll have to wait for the Qi alternative to be viable
How are the magnets on the one you purchase from ebay?
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well damn.. they must be some hardcore springs to keep the backing to snap into place 0.o''''''
EDIT: if it doesn't charge through the case, that's a big issue for me.. I prefer not to take my case off and on every time I want to charge the device... I guess i'll have to wait for the Qi alternative to be viable
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Well crap if it doesnt work through a case i guess im out too
or is it "some cases""
asjeep said:
Well crap if it doesnt work through a case i guess im out too
or is it "some cases""
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Tried several cases from hard to tpu and none worked.
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Tried several cases from hard to tpu and none worked.
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Sounds like (and it makes sense one of the "open back" cases aka a bumper will work.....
Whoever said the back sits completely flush on his galaxy s iii can you post some pictures? That is the only part of this that is making me hesitant, I don't want the back not clipping on properly.
Also does anyone know if this charging door would work with the energizer charging pad or the powermat charging pad?
it will definitly not work with the energizer mat since that's Qi technology while the touchstone uses a slightly different variation.
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I have no problem charging with Spigen Neo case installed - both Touchstone and/or the Qi setup...
Hi Guys,
This is a back cover in cheapr price US$28 below
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200821599660?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
You can also find $55 with full set of back cover + touchstone below.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200819474696?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
The Sprint S3 is my first smartphone and this forum has been AMAZINGLY helpful to me and I thank everyone here greatly. Sadly at this point I dont really have anything useful to give back, however I do get comments and questions on my ghetto battery modding by people at school all the time, so maybe a few of you will get a chuckle out of it too:
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I bought 2 extended batteries, a 4800mAh no name off ebay and a 4500mAh onite off amazon, then I stripped off their casings and seperated the cells then I stripped the cover off my stock battery and carefully lined up everything and glued all 5 cells together with arctic silver thermal adhesive. After that I carefully wired them all together in parallel and cut a hole in my otterbox so that they all stick out the back. I figure I now have between 10500mAh and 11400mAh.
Ghetto eh? But it works great, it charges just like normal and while I can kill it by gaming all day, it lasts about 3-5 days under normal usage for me depending on how I have my settings. An unexpected benifit that I discovered completely by accident is that if you drop it from about 3.5-4 feet up it seems to always land flat on the battery (I tested this by standing on my bed doing drop tests).
If I had been very careful I could have even kept the NFC antenna on the battery doing this, but I didnt know to watch out for it, so I accidently destroyed it.
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The Sprint S3 is my first smartphone and this forum has been AMAZINGLY helpful to me and I thank everyone here greatly. Sadly at this point I dont really have anything useful to give back, however I do get comments and questions on my ghetto battery modding by people at school all the time, so maybe a few of you will get a chuckle out of it too:
Well that sucks.... I cant post pictures of it.... Just google joelespinoza photobucket they should be the top pictures in my only album.
I bought 2 extended batteries, a 4800mAh no name off ebay and a 4500mAh onite off amazon, then I stripped off their casings and seperated the cells then I stripped the cover off my stock battery and carefully lined up everything and glued all 5 cells together with arctic silver thermal adhesive. After that I carefully wired them all together in parallel and cut a hole in my otterbox so that they all stick out the back. I figure I now have between 10500mAh and 11400mAh.
Ghetto eh? But it works great, it charges just like normal and while I can kill it by gaming all day, it lasts about 3-5 days under normal usage for me depending on how I have my settings. An unexpected benifit that I discovered completely by accident is that if you drop it from about 3.5-4 feet up it seems to always land flat on the battery (I tested this by standing on my bed doing drop tests).
If I had been very careful I could have even kept the NFC antenna on the battery doing this, but I didnt know to watch out for it, so I accidently destroyed it.
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Great story. You get your first thanks from me. I do crazy modding like this sometimes and love it if some else appreciates the ghetto inventiveness. Love the drop testing bit. Absolutely entertaining....and actually...the mod...for you...is very useful!
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Great story. You get your first thanks from me. I do crazy modding like this sometimes and love it if some else appreciates the ghetto inventiveness. Love the drop testing bit. Absolutely entertaining....and actually...the mod...for you...is very useful!
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Thanks man! I appreciate it. And my wife has a normal S3... Honestly I like the way mine feels MUCH better, its just way easier to hold onto and easier to use one handed without it slipping around. The fact that I could use it to jump start my Honda in a pinch is a nice bonus too!
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Thanks man! I appreciate it. And my wife has a normal S3... Honestly I like the way mine feels MUCH better, its just way easier to hold onto and easier to use one handed without it slipping around. The fact that I could use it to jump start my Honda in a pinch is a nice bonus too!
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Ironically, my Honda battery is suffering during this colder season and could use such a boost! LOL
Honestly, I can't see how anyone could actually use the S3 without a case. I have never held such a slippery and uncomfortable device...begging to fly out of my hand. Too thin. But there are so many case options out there that compliment it. Love it. :good:
On the topic of "entertainment", here is a video for a new Griffen Survivor case that gives your BED DROP tests a run for the money...
all well and good but isnt this extremely dangerous to carry around like that?
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all well and good but isnt this extremely dangerous to carry around like that?
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Dangerous? is it dangerous to carry a 9 volt battery? Fully charged this is around 4 volts, why would it be dangerous?
When that hack job goes into thermal runaway, it will be like a cutting torch in your pocket and you'll have a new asshole out the side of your waist. What a mess.
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When that hack job goes into thermal runaway, it will be like a cutting torch in your pocket and you'll have a new asshole out the side of your waist. What a mess.
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Very unlikely, I wear carpenter jeans and and always use the leg pocket for my phone and nothing else goes in there, so there is almost no chance of it shorting out against anything. This phone has had this battery since about 3 weeks after Sprint released the S3s and it has never been an issue, and I recently redid the connections and switched from gorilla glue to thermal adhesive.
Not only that but if it did start heating up, there is nothing holding the battery in there but friction. Pulling the battery out takes me all of 1 second.
But worse case scenario if you wanted to do it and you were worried about it, just pot the side with the connections.
Hahaha this is great, love the idea!
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i carry uncovered batteries (AA) like that for another device and shortly after use if they come in contact with anything metal they can combust, and at the very least burn a hole rught through your pants and severely burn your leg.
just asking. dont know naythign about batteries but i had one close call with the AA batteries.
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i carry uncovered batteries (AA) like that for another device and shortly after use if they come in contact with anything metal they can combust, and at the very least burn a hole rught through your pants and severely burn your leg.
just asking. dont know naythign about batteries but i had one close call with the AA batteries.
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I work in IT and keep my pockets very organized, if I was tossing this phone into a purse or pocket with a bunch of loose change or other metal objects I would have it better insulated. I will probably do so anyway at some point but right now it is not an issue.
As a side point I seriously doubt anything but shorting out could possibly cause any kind of "thermal runaway" with this setup. The battery has 5 times the mass and better airflow then stock and the phone can only draw the same power. I do still get a warm screen with this setup (how the CPU/GPU dissipates heat) but the battery never gets much more then body temp, even under the most brutal use for hours at a time.
That's frickin' sweet! Could you make a video of this? Lol. I'd attempt it if I had a video to follow.
Well it was sweet until I saw the pictures.. LOL! Not really something I'd want on the back of my phone.. It's usually function over fashion for me, but in this case I think I'll make an exception. It's not really the fashion thing, it's I think it'd be really awkward to hold.
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That's frickin' sweet! Could you make a video of this? Lol. I'd attempt it if I had a video to follow.
Well it was sweet until I saw the pictures.. LOL! Not really something I'd want on the back of my phone.. It's usually function over fashion for me, but in this case I think I'll make an exception. It's not really the fashion thing, it's I think it'd be really awkward to hold.
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Keep in mind I am not trying to convince anyone else to do this, and I have readlly big hands as you can see from the pictures, but I find it much more comfortable to hold and use. 2 handed its only slightly better, but one handed its WAY better... the bottom edge of the battery fits right above my pinky and the weight centered in the back both give a much better feel.... when I hold my girlfriends stock s3 in one hand it feels like its gonna fall straight down out of my hand or fall forewards towards me, that might just be me though.
It also has what I call a manly heft. I don't mind it at all but if you are looking for a sleek featherweight device..... this isn't. But I like it :fingers-crossed:
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Keep in mind I am not trying to convince anyone else to do this, and I have readlly big hands as you can see from the pictures, but I find it much more comfortable to hold and use. 2 handed its only slightly better, but one handed its WAY better... the bottom edge of the battery fits right above my pinky and the weight centered in the back both give a much better feel.... when I hold my girlfriends stock s3 in one hand it feels like its gonna fall straight down out of my hand or fall forewards towards me, that might just be me though.
It also has what I call a manly heft. I don't mind it at all but if you are looking for a sleek featherweight device..... this isn't. But I like it :fingers-crossed:
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Even if it was awkward to hold, the battery life would so be worth it.. Getting the battery life of my old flip phone would be an incredible experience on a smartphone. I don't think I'd ever attempt this, but I'm wondering did just kinda wing it, or did you know what you were doing..?
Be super careful doing this. I know that lithium polymer batteries are really bad news if they are punctured or damaged... I believe this is also the case with the Lithium Ion batteries.. specifically if you inadvertently short them causing heat and internal breakdown.. Have seem my share of laptops that were burned when someone used the wrong laptop power supply (21V instead of 12V for example)
Not saying to not do this sort of mod... just saying to be VERY careful and don't risk your safety or risk burning down your house for the sake of extra battery life.. there are too many USB charging batteries out there to help with battery life extension if you are away from a USB port for too long.
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Well it was sweet until I saw the pictures.. LOL!
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Where are the pictures? I would like to see how it looks.
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Where are the pictures? I would like to see how it looks.
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I added a couple pics in the first post.
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I don't think I'd ever attempt this, but I'm wondering did just kinda wing it, or did you know what you were doing..?
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I have done my fair share of messing with electronics, but im not an electrical engineer or anything... If you are comfortable soldering, its not that big of a deal. The hardest part is attaching the wires to the stock battery, because you have to lift up the small circut board the contact points are attached to, then resolder it back down after you attach wires underneth it. But to be fair you dont need the boards of the other 2 batteries so you can pratice on them. Then you line up all the batteries where you want them and glue them together. After that its all wire routing and ataching negatives to negatives and positives to positives.
It would probably be a good idea to have the main battery completely drained before starting. But having the other 4 with some charge would be fine if you are somewhat careful.
Be sure to pick a very thin wire with a decent casing, some kind of ribbon wire would probably work best I think, however, I just used ethernet wire I had laying around, but some of them had great insulation and some of them the insulation sucked.
If you want to play around with it without jumping in with both feet you can take apart just about any old cell phone battery and see how they are put together, they are all pretty similar. My old verizon LG octane 950mAh battery actually runs my S3 and charges normally in it, it just has to be held in with a piece of tape.
Its like anything really, if you are patient and careful you will get a nice finished product, if you are not......
You need more protection. If anything ever, and yeah, I get it, you never have anything in your pocket, but if anything ever shorts that out, you're ****ed.
The whole "Never have anything in my pocket" argument isn't working for me. You could have it on a desk, bump something into it, and then burn down the building you're in. Just cover it up and it should be fine.
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You need more protection. If anything ever, and yeah, I get it, you never have anything in your pocket, but if anything ever shorts that out, you're ****ed.
The whole "Never have anything in my pocket" argument isn't working for me. You could have it on a desk, bump something into it, and then burn down the building you're in. Just cover it up and it should be fine.
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I do agree I should probably slap some insulation on the side... However I think all of you people who are worried about something terrible happening are wildly overestimating the results.... I have shorted out this battery, its not a huge deal. Would it be bad if I purposefully directly shorted it out for a long period of time? Well yea... is it a big deal if it brushes up against something and I immediately pull it away? Has not been a problem so far,,,
This is not a single cell battery, its 5 cells connected by thin copper wire... I have actually used copper wire this thin as a fuse in a pinch, if it gets hot it melts then you are back to a single cell, assuming that the arcing didnt simply melt away the metal shorting out, which usually happens nearly instantly.
I know Lithium ion batteries can be dangerous, I also know how much abuse it usually takes to make them that way. I was around and saw some of these "tests" first hand with Luke:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dree...gcnR3aIyzfEYEaOlYsyQe_ANtSuo7U2FsvDnzcBTJK8yE
an s3 commuter with batteries?
who does that?:laugh: