Develop Bugs

That's a bugger - power switch

Anyone else accidentally pressed the power button whilst using the HW keyboard? It's a better power switcdh in that it's easier to use, but it's also more sensitive and when I'm holding the phone in two hands and typing, I've accidentally hit the power button a few times.
It's still a million times better than the TP though.

But aren't you supposed to push AND hold it for it to power off? Or do you mean that any slight touch and it turns off the screen?

rb14 said:
Anyone else accidentally pressed the power button whilst using the HW keyboard? It's a better power switcdh in that it's easier to use, but it's also more sensitive and when I'm holding the phone in two hands and typing, I've accidentally hit the power button a few times.
It's still a million times better than the TP though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've not done it myself no, but it comes up with a warning before switching it off anyway.

I've done it quite a few times .. you accidentally nudge the button and the screen goes blank ..

yeppers, im doing it but am learning not too lol

i'm starting to do this too! quite frustrating sometimes!

I was going to add a poll to see who could clock-up the most accidental-power-switch-whilst-typing hits but I can't see a way.
So I'll start the ball rolling:
3 (so far)

I've done it 7 times since yesterday.
4 of which were in a 10 minute gap last night when I couldn't figure out why my screen was switching off by itself. I was getting ready to RMA it when I remembered this thread and slapped myself.

I've already lost count of how many times I've switched the screen off, really frustrating!!
This is the only niggle I've come accross so far that I cant fix easily... I'll have to chop off my left index finger! lol

Funny. I never accidentally turn it off
I guess it's the way I hold the phone that's different than you guys. Because I can't think of a way why you can accidentally press the power button!

When I have it in landscape mode, I automatically wrap my forefingers around the back section of the phone (much like holding a videogame controller)
This causes the section of my finger closest to my hand to rest on the power button by accident. A small movement of my finger to the right will cause it to press the power button.

I only have problems with the volumebuttons when sliding open the keyboard...

Hi,
I'm going nuts on this, as well. Isn't here any app, that just disables the power button when the keyboard is in use?
Cheers,
Zivi

michaelra said:
Funny. I never accidentally turn it off
I guess it's the way I hold the phone that's different than you guys. Because I can't think of a way why you can accidentally press the power button!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What, do you use your feet?
I've had the same problem also quite a few times already. First couple of times I was really scared some contact was loose or something!

I agree on the powerbutton beying annoying
I vote also for some kind of hack, like disable power off when the keyboard is out. As some of you already mentioned.

Bottom button lights always on.

Hi folks, I've had my phone for two weeks, can't really seem to find any documentation on this, but the hang up/power button always seems to be lit up red. I'm not sure if the light is bleeding through, or if the rest simply are not as bright, but the back, start menu, and dial buttons seem to be lit all the time too, regardless of the situation unless off.
I'm assuming everyone else sees this too?
This was something I liked about my Touch Pro, very minnimal. I sort of miss the gentle swoosh of the d-pad on a reminder event, or when charging.
Any thoughts?

what about pressing enter?

Actually none of my buttons at the bottom light up when the device is on unless I hit one of the 4 buttons. Then they only stay lit for about 5 seconds before all going off again.

Ohh, I thought that was odd. Staying on for 5 seconds would make a lot more sense..
Enter? You mean on the keyboard?
Anyone else on a Telus Touch Pro2, can you confirm whether the four bottom buttons stay lit all the time?
Oh, now it turns out it looks like the three left buttons stay dim, but still on, unless one is pressed, but then they dim after 5 seconds or so like mentioned, but the hangup button is always bright red.

I also have the telus touch pro 2 and I have the same problem, I think its just the power/hang up button that stays on but I know what you mean about the light bleeding through to the other bottem buttons as well, I have been searching for a solution to this problem since I got it and have had no luck.

I returned the phone for another NEW one since it was DOA. Both HTC and Telus agreed. That is not a normal operation for the phone to do that, but it's odd that two are doing it.
It gave me a noticably better battery life too, so get on top of that replacement right away. The replacement phone works perfectly.

Ya my battery life hasn't been great and I thought that could be a large factor in it, so I will try to get it replaced then if thats not a normal function of the phone.

matt608 said:
Ya my battery life hasn't been great and I thought that could be a large factor in it, so I will try to get it replaced then if thats not a normal function of the phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly. I thought the same thing. When actually working properly, it has a long battery life for a phone like that. Significantly longer than my touch pro, which is even more than the p4000

Did you set HKLM/system/currentcontrolset/control/power/batpoweroff to 0, and not 180?
I think that might be what caused it

Icepick66 said:
Did you set HKLM/system/currentcontrolset/control/power/batpoweroff to 0, and not 180?
I think that might be what caused it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its currently set to 0, thats what it should be?

The one I have now that works is set to 0. Not sure about the one that I had that was having the issue.

Touch Buttons

Is it just me or are the three bottom touch screen buttons finnicky not always responsive on the first click? Like when you're clicking it one of the touch buttons quickly, you have to wait a second then touch the button again for a response. Also your thumb has to be right on the button, can't touch corners etc.
Do you guys find you often have to repress one of the touch buttons on the bottom?

Nope. Maybe you're missing the button.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

BrandonPrice31 said:
Is it just me or are the three bottom touch screen buttons finnicky not always responsive on the first click? Like when you're clicking it one of the touch buttons quickly, you have to wait a second then touch the button again for a response. Also your thumb has to be right on the button, can't touch corners etc.
Do you guys find you often have to repress one of the touch buttons on the bottom?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes - especially when it is in my car dock.
My HTC Evo 4G has some kind of issue where the screen would not register touch if you laid it on a table or something but it worked fine if you held it in your hand. They were able to fix this with a software update (I have no idea how).
The Nexus feels like the same kind of issue - the soft buttons work ok if I'm holding it but on the table they don't seem to register a push well.

i noticed this too,
BUT, i also noticed that you have to pretty much touch the actual icon itself.
i tried tapping in-between the keys and noticed that it didn't do anything.
so no worries man, noting is wrong with your phone.
fwiw i have a wet screen protector on, so that might attribute to it.

predation said:
i noticed this too,
BUT, i also noticed that you have to pretty much touch the actual icon itself.
i tried tapping in-between the keys and noticed that it didn't do anything.
so no worries man, noting is wrong with your phone.
fwiw i have a wet screen protector on, so that might attribute to it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As do I.
Anyone else noticing this 'issue'?

BrandonPrice31 said:
As do I.
Anyone else noticing this 'issue'?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same issue here, I'm wondering if they dialed down sensitivity too much to avoid accidental presses while typing? I think it should only reduce sensitivity while the keyboard is up, not always.
Hope they increase the sensitivity a bit

i've seen stuff like this on other phones like my Samsung Wave S8500, some areas of the touchscreen don't respond properly unless part of you is touching the phone case, probably caused by the way capacitive touchscreens work?

ccjjr59 said:
Same issue here, I'm wondering if they dialed down sensitivity too much to avoid accidental presses while typing? I think it should only reduce sensitivity while the keyboard is up, not always.
Hope they increase the sensitivity a bit
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
agreed!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

I just find the multi task button is a bit laggy, but this could be to do with redrawing the app images that's about it.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

Lumia 900 Camera Button not waking phone

I'm not new to windows phone, but the Camera Button is not waking up the device on my new Lumia 900. I double checked and have the exact same settings set up on my HTC Surround, which is working correctly.
Anyone else have this problem or solution?
Thanks,

Mine doesn't do it either. I just assumed it was designed that way.

ragingclue said:
Mine doesn't do it either. I just assumed it was designed that way.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It should most definitely. How long do you hold down the camera button for?

ragingclue said:
Mine doesn't do it either. I just assumed it was designed that way.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, it is not. Microsoft is very pround of the fact that press the camera button can wake up any WP7 phone in any state (other than shutdown) and launch camera app automatically. Try hold the camera button for a few seconds.

foxbat121 said:
No, it is not. Microsoft is very pround of the fact that press the camera button can wake up any WP7 phone in any state (other than shutdown) and launch camera app automatically. Try hold the camera button for a few seconds.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this worked for me, i think people are just stoping halfway when they hit the focus click
EDIT: mine only works sometimes

I've tried holding it down for a few seconds, longer than my Surround. I think it's a hardware issue. However, it does work with the lock screen in place. Just not at full sleep.

Dwight2001 said:
I've tried holding it down for a few seconds, longer than my Surround. I think it's a hardware issue. However, it does work with the lock screen in place. Just not at full sleep.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You got a point. Holding the camera button down does not work for me. Press, release and press again does. I wonder if theres a setting for that

I can also confirm that it does not work every time. I have to unlock and re-lock, shut off for it to work again. Hope this is fixable in a firmware update.

foxbat121 said:
No, it is not. Microsoft is very pround of the fact that press the camera button can wake up any WP7 phone in any state (other than shutdown) and launch camera app automatically. Try hold the camera button for a few seconds.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If the phone has been asleep for a while, it does not work. No matter how many times I depress the camera button and no matter how long it's depressed, it does not work.
It only works if the phone has recently gone to sleep and even then I have to hit it twice sometimes. IDGAF really, doesn't matter to me....

ragingclue said:
If the phone has been asleep for a while, it does not work. No matter how many times I depress the camera button and no matter how long it's depressed, it does not work.
It only works if the phone has recently gone to sleep and even then I have to hit it twice sometimes. IDGAF really, doesn't matter to me....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You think this is where those banditos come in?

ragingclue said:
If the phone has been asleep for a while, it does not work. No matter how many times I depress the camera button and no matter how long it's depressed, it does not work.
It only works if the phone has recently gone to sleep and even then I have to hit it twice sometimes. IDGAF really, doesn't matter to me....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
confirmed

Ok tried rebooting, changing camera button settings and it still doesn't work. Plus with others having the same issue I'm pretty sure it's a defect. Just giving up on the issue isn't a solution so I'll contact Nokia (God knows ATT won't help) and get back here with the results.
Keep in mind this was a selling point - "Smoked by Windows"

Guys... try pressing the button all the way in with some force. It should work. Seems they designed it so it will not accidently get turned on by mistake.

PaullikesWINMO said:
Guys... try pressing the button all the way in with some force. It should work. Seems they designed it so it will not accidently get turned on by mistake.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
already tried and it wasn't designed for too much force

PaullikesWINMO said:
Guys... try pressing the button all the way in with some force. It should work. Seems they designed it so it will not accidently get turned on by mistake.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ummmm... I feel like "EPIC FAIL!!!", but that worked . Just wasn't use to that with my Surround.

I figured it out
If you press, release, press, release, then press and hold for 2-3 seconds, the camera will start up from a fully closed state.

Mine works every time. No matter how long its been asleep.

I don't have one lol
Sent from my GT-S5360 using XDA

Dwight2001 said:
I've tried holding it down for a few seconds, longer than my Surround. I think it's a hardware issue. However, it does work with the lock screen in place. Just not at full sleep.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
trick with that camera button wake up: push it fast and hard.
from playing with two wp phones i've owned, i think it's because of the difference between focus press (no wake) and shutter press (wake). problem is they are two stages of the same button. the phone tells the user intent apart by measuring the time from passing first stage of button press (focus) to arriving at bottom of the press (shutter). if it's shorter than a particular value, it wakes the phone. that means you have to press it firm enough to get to the bottom of the press, and fast enough to beat that timer.
if you just press it lightly, it either doesn't get to the shutter stage at all, or doesn't get there fast enough.
it's a bit dumb, because you kinda have to slam that button hard. on the other hand, you don't want to accidentally wake the phone.

Quick press seems to work. Hopefully they fix the timing so it's easier. The Samsung Focus timing was good, and worked every time.

Volume up, Menu and Home key not working!

Hello everybody! My htc desire's physical buttons(actually just the volume up, home and menu keys) don't work...I press them but nothing happens. Well, they work sometimes, but when they don't I reboot my phone, randomly press some buttons, and they start working again. I just don't know what the fault is. Im on MildWild CM 4.3. I think the same problem was with other firmwares too. Can you please solve my problem?

If your device is under warrantly just send it to htc. It's a hardware problem, not something that you can solve with a script.

Ah, so you're telling me there's nothing that can be done to repair it? Cuz, my device isn't in warranty(I just replaced the casing)...

thedarkcoder said:
Ah, so you're telling me there's nothing that can be done to repair it? Cuz, my device isn't in warranty(I just replaced the casing)...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't know.. I don't want to be pessimistic, maybe you can search for similar problem in internet and a possibile solution, not just for Desire but in general for devices that have hardkeys. Maybe like use a spray for electric contacts while device is turn off and wait that it's completly dry before turn it on. Good luck.

I can't remember it, but I think that this problem appeared only after I got my casing changed. Could the technician have done something wrong? Can I send it to the man that changed the casing?

It's probably just some dust that gathered underneath the buttons. I had the same problem with the volume down button. I used a needle to clean the dust around it, and then it worked perfectly.

I dont think it could be due to the dust, cuz there are three buttons which simultaneously stop and start working... It's a bit strange tho..

I have issues now with my power button. It's unreliable... that is, the button sometimes works. Sometimes when I press it, it opens the shutdown menu..
Started all of a sudden. Not sure how that happened... and it's out of warrenty for 4 months now..

That is why I use Button Savior

Same!
I am getting the same problem. I have replaced the keypad flex with a new one and still getting the same issue. It would start working randomly like if I open the browser and open many tabs, then it would work. Funny thing is that they would not even work when I go in recovery.
My desire is 2yrs old now but I still love it.

shricker said:
I am getting the same problem. I have replaced the keypad flex with a new one and still getting the same issue. It would start working randomly like if I open the browser and open many tabs, then it would work. Funny thing is that they would not even work when I go in recovery.
My desire is 2yrs old now but I still love it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same problem here.
Mostly happens with Home and menù. Less often with volume buttons.
For now I'm using the "button saviour app" workaround, but if is something hardware I will know it very soon... (made a copy of my rom on a friend's HTC Desire)

thedarkcoder said:
I can't remember it, but I think that this problem appeared only after I got my casing changed. Could the technician have done something wrong? Can I send it to the man that changed the casing?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thedarkcoder said:
I dont think it could be due to the dust, cuz there are three buttons which simultaneously stop and start working... It's a bit strange tho..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All three buttons simultaneously! Buttons usually fail gradually one by one and drive you mad finally. I would put my money on the keypads being misaligned during whatever you got done with casing. Take it back to him.
If its some kind of misalignment no amount of sprays will help.
BTW I use zmooth for button conservation

use soft key instead
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

I had the same issues : menu button working randomly, had to press very strong on up/down volume buttons.
I've dismounted my phone (using this : http://www.formymobile.co.uk/desiredisassembly.php ), and I saw that there were a lot of dust, hairs.. I tried to clean up/down volume buttons the best way I could, and they both work so much better now! Not totally perfect though.
By the way, I noticed that there was a lot of compressed dust in micro-USB connector and was able to remove it fully (thing I couldn't do without dismounting phone).
I didn't want to go farther to access menu/home buttons because I didn't have time and Menu button works quite OK.

I have the same issue here with the volume buttons they tend to get unresponsive and unreliable.
Even though all the parts were renewed since six months ago, the volume buttons are probably bad designed?

Holland1994D said:
I have the same issue here with the volume buttons they tend to get unresponsive and unreliable.
Even though all the parts were renewed since six months ago, the volume buttons are probably bad designed?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You could replace bad working buttons' functions with others'. My volume down isn't working, so I made my search button act like a vol down.

Buy the new one
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium