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How everything works?

Hello to everyone!
I am feeling like a 5 year old child by asking this question, but i need to ask for some help because i am searching for about an hour for some answers.
1. So XDA is a site for changing the way HTC mobiles work? Like removing Windows 2000, and installing Windows XP?
2. There are various different developments by different people? Or just one by the XDA developers?
3. Is there anywhere a resources page, having all the developments for the phones, thus highlighting the best one? Or these can be found in the forum?
4.Is it easy to go back to the original "environment" of the phone, if i do something wrong? As i dont have so much experience...
It would be great to get some answers and understand how everything works in here...

hi
1. not changing the way it works,but upgrading,experimenting,improving and having fun (in most cases like installing a newer service pack,but also it also includes changing the system)
2. people contribute to the society, the xda-devs is like a gathering place
3. wiki (click my signature),if something isn't there,read the forums,and if you really can't find what you want,ask in a proper section
4. to do it you must have a shipped rom which you can download from here or from official manufacturers site,and simly folow the steps (check boxes and click next)
now feel like a 6 year old child,there is much to learn

Aaaa.... that is a bit more clear...
So there can be various "service packs" by different people...
That is why some say they installed many Roms... They install one they check it, then install another one , etc ....
Cool thanks...
Well to be honest, i a bit "afraid" to install yet such a thing on my mobile as i don't know if i will do it correctly or not...
Thank you very much for the answer.

Just ordered, what mods etc should i get? im clueles!!

hey its being delievered on tuesday yaya
But what should i get for it?
I know youll link me to the stickies but im already readingh them and they don tell me what i need for my phone
So tell me, what mods are msuts for this phone?
Also what roms are recomended? And if i flash a rom does it affect the touch flow, aplications etc?
Cheers and any other info i should know. I hear i have to do some reg edit to use wifi at a decent speed??
thanks.

hey also is it possible to get itunes on my phone so i can sync it with my pc and play all my itunes music? As currently alot of it is in itunes format and cannot play on other players.

8igdave said:
hey also is it possible to get itunes on my phone so i can sync it with my pc and play all my itunes music? As currently alot of it is in itunes format and cannot play on other players.
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Id be interested in this too

NOOOOOBBBSSSS!! You just said it yourself, you must read the threads.
ROM issues you ust test outyourself, i can recoomend a rom, but possibly i'll have other way of using my phone than you.... look, read, test for yourself and youll see that this balckstone is quite a device.
Gr. Bram
ps. read this first, this will help you on the way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45

So basicaly this isn't actually a forum to help people who dont know anything about it find out about apps which have been created by people here. How unhelpful.

8igdave said:
So basicaly this isn't actually a forum to help people who dont know anything about it find out about apps which have been created by people here. How unhelpful.
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No, what you'll find is that all the information you most likely need is already on this forum somewhere. Take a day or two,search, read, look at the wiki, and you will be in a much better position to understand what you can do and want to do with your phone.
I did the above and have flashed custom roms, various applications, registry tweaks, edited dlls and what not and am now very happy with my phone.

Yeah i have looked through theese for days. But there is just so much, especialy when i know so little. It is very hard to pick out whats good and whats not.
I was hoping uses of HD touch could just post what they feel is the best things that they use. And from that i could work out what to use.
But it appears people would rather turn their nose up because i dont know anything about moding theese.

It's not that i dont want to help you with finding apps and mods and tweaks, or helping you understand your device better, it the way you assume that someone displays every app on a plate so you can install without breaking a sweat.
All apps that are around for the HD are fully reviewed and archived in the wiki:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442663
This is a thread that you could have found easyly, since it's a wiki page and has been stickied in this subforum.
Also on the wiki, theres much info on upgrading and modding the HD's rom, search an you will find, not ask and takeoff without understanding.
We'd like to help if you have a problem, and you searched for it, and stated out what youve done by yourself to solve it.
The first thing youll have to do is find your own answers, then ask your question.
EDIT: In fact of the itunes music issue, you can play AAC files on the HD, this info i've found in the manual, RTFM!
Gr. Bram

i ahve looked through that several times actually. Ive identifyed some things. But generaly they arnt reviewed and ther is so many aplications that do the same job on there i dont know wahts best and i presume you guys do.
Its quite simple, i dont know whats good. You guys do, i ask instead of trawling through lists installing them all and trying them my self. Its not really unreasonable tbh. Ive never been met by so much hostility to a simple question that i presume is on everyones mind who gets a touch hd and is new to it all.
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also, what is manilla? i see it around alot.

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also, what is manilla? i see it around alot.
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Search my friend, whats the main word that pops off your screen whan you search for manila? Yes, Its touchflo3d! Manila what the HTC codeword when they developed the app, and it still uses manila in the registry and such.
Gr. Bram

ahh i see, so does that mean roms that dont have "manilla" in the title dont use touch flo 3d?

8igdave said:
ahh i see, so does that mean roms that dont have "manilla" in the title dont use touch flo 3d?
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Due to your evident experience level with HTC products I would suggest that you refrain from playin about with roms until you are at least onto your second device.. stick to easy to install software for the moment and gain an understanding of how your device works.

i would ahve thought there would be a guide i could follow and it all be fairly simple. I have flashed bios's on my pc, overclocked etc. Im not new to learning such things. I have just never done it on a phone before.
I presume i can always reflash to the orginal if it goes wrong? But yeah i will be getting used to the phone first before i do do any flashing. But i definitly intend of flashing the rom. I got this phone with the intent on playing around with it and learning about it all.

8igdave said:
... I got this phone with the intent on playing around with it and learning about it all.
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Well... do that. Asking questions like "which apps should I install?" or "which ROM is the best?" doesn't make much more sense than asking "what is the tastiest food?" You will get as many different answers as there are people out there. In my oppinion this forum is for "how to do..." questions and not for "what to do..." - if you have any of the first kind, there is a good chance that someone will answer it.
As far as the ROMs go - every ROM more or less reflects the cooker's usage of the phone, so you WILL become 'flash-o-holic', because everyone has unique pattern of usage and you will think that the next ROM will be better suited for you, and the next one, and the next one... but the truth is that none of them is 100% tailored for you. My advice is - read carefully the sticky threads (there is a reason they are pinned above all else), always be sure you are not doing something irreversible and respect the work of others. And congratulations for the excelent choise of hardware .

Yeah i understand what your saying. Just like a direction to head at really.
Im going to try dutties first and seems to be very popular and i hear it speeds the phone up quite a bit.
And ahhh cant wait, so annoying i had to wait till friday to order it with weekend and bankholiday monday to wait! it was out of stock for weeks!

8igdave said:
I presume i can always reflash to the orginal if it goes wrong?
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If you dont know what you are doing you can turn your phone into an expensive paperweight..

mmm ok, shall defo make suer i got a good guide to follow first.
Im currently trying to find out what "cabs" are exacly. I see them menchened everywhere but it doesn't appear to be given a definition in the wiki. Might have missed it though. Not really sure what to type in google as typing "cab" doesn't really give the results i want.
Anyone got any links to good guilds, how too's, how they got started etc?

8igdave said:
mmm ok, shall defo make suer i got a good guide to follow first.
Im currently trying to find out what "cabs" are exacly. I see them menchened everywhere but it doesn't appear to be given a definition in the wiki. Might have missed it though. Not really sure what to type in google as typing "cab" doesn't really give the results i want.
Anyone got any links to good guilds, how too's, how they got started etc?
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A .cab file is an socalled "cabinet file" wich is used in windows for ages to install stuff. In desktop windows you dont see them anymore couse they are camouflaged by a .exe of .msi file, but they are used still today.
On windows mobile, all programs are installed by cab, so basically for you, a cab is an installer.
Gr. Bram

ive been searching for months and still havnt found any decent programs, the software wiki is useless as it doesnt even tell you what half the programs are or do!

8igdave said:
So basicaly this isn't actually a forum to help people who dont know anything about it find out about apps which have been created by people here. How unhelpful.
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Okay, if you're going to be nasty, I'll return the favour. If you're going to buy something as technically advanced as the Touch HD, and you have no clue (your word) as to what to do with it, perhaps you should stick with a less complicated device.
Second, most questions have already been answered in these forums. Do a simple search. If that, too, is beyond you, then this site, and others like it, are too advanced for you.
Stick with a basic flip-phone and you should be happy.
(shaking his head)

Quick yes or no Question.

Hello everyone. I'm thinking on buying HTC magic, i've been reading a bit about the Hacking to run new roms. My only objective was to run apps, or unoficial apps. Do i need to hack the HTC in order to run them ? I couldnt find awser of this question i hope someone can help Thank you,
Regards

A) Your question really doesn't make sense.
B) This is the HTC Hero forums, not the HTC Sapphire (Magic) forums.

jgcaap said:
Hello everyone. I'm thinking on buying HTC magic, i've been reading a bit about the Hacking to run new roms. My only objective was to run apps, or unoficial apps. Do i need to hack the HTC in order to run them ? I couldnt find awser of this question i hope someone can help Thank you,
Regards
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well first of all, you posted in the hero section.
about your questions, hacking is too much of a big word. better say rooting.
depends on the applications you want to install. majority of them you wont need to root your phone for them to run. there is an option to enable 3rd party applications in the menu itself. however, some applications do require rooting of the phone, for example wifi teetering, bluetooth sharing...

oh sorry i made mistake :\ but i think it would be the same.
i'll try formulate. I wish to download a pack of apps from the internet. I do not know if they are signed or not (not even know if android has that protection as windows mobile has ) . My question was if i can install those apps on the android oficial OS from HTC.
I Hope it was better formulated the question. Thanks again!

For example. i'm downloading this collection of apps: h**p://isohunt.com/torrent_details/148986681/android?tab=summary
Will i need to root or it isnt necessary? What kind of apps need rooting? Or this kind i do not have to worry about.
Thanks =)

jgcaap said:
For example. i'm downloading this collection of apps: h**p://isohunt.com/torrent_details/148986681/android?tab=summary
Will i need to root or it isnt necessary? What kind of apps need rooting? Or this kind i do not have to worry about.
Thanks =)
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from the list you quoted, you dont have to root your phone for the vast majority of them. rooting is required to access proteccted files of the system from your phone

alright excelent. Thank you for your kind help =) I was becoming interested on the iphone but after i saw android, kind of blocked my eyes. the system is great hehe. Thank you again =)

But downloading pirated apps is a good way to get your phone blacklisted & banned from the Android Market.

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But downloading pirated apps is a good way to get your phone blacklisted & banned from the Android Market.
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i don't support piracy, especially not when it comes down to apps for a few $$... but i neither support divulgement of false propaganda.
so please explain how my phone is going to be banned from the market, this is the first time i hear of this?

kendong2 said:
i don't support piracy, especially not when it comes down to apps for a few $$... but i neither support divulgement of false propaganda.
so please explain how my phone is going to be banned from the market, this is the first time i hear of this?
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+ Eleventy

oh how is this detectable so far? why are they banning people from it? wont they loose money that way? If i dont root my phone, most apps i have on this list will work, in that way i wont get blacklisted? Thanks

Development Q&A - Ask Development Questions Here!

If you have any questions that may be development related please post them in here instead of making a new thread. Me and hopefully others will try to answer your question to the best of your abilities. Plus it saves me from moving a few hundred threads a day
Thanks!
CK

Where is the best place to learn Linux Kernel Development, or more specifically, Android Kernel Development (if there's any major differences in the two).
I have a slight Computer Science background from being self-taught in basic C programs, an understanding for Object Oriented Programming, and also learning Java throughout school.
I've heard that http://kernelnewbies.org/ is good as well as the standard www.kernel.com website to grab the latest kernel and start tinkering.

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Where is the best place to learn Linux Kernel Development, or more specifically, Android Kernel Development (if there's any major differences in the two).
I have a slight Computer Science background from being self-taught in basic C programs, an understanding for Object Oriented Programming, and also learning Java throughout school.
I've heard that http://kernelnewbies.org/ is good as well as the standard www.kernel.com website to grab the latest kernel and start tinkering.
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The sites you listed are pretty good, also try and learn a little C, or some google searching does wonders

overclocking issues
is it normal for the phone to not be overclocked as soon as the screen goes out?

akamu23 said:
is it normal for the phone to not be overclocked as soon as the screen goes out?
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Well im not sure of your question, but you can set profiles in SetCPU so that when your screen goes off it can slow the clock down

[Q] Is the G2 capable of Screen Sharing/DLNA
I love my G2, but one feature that I wish the it incorporated is the DLNA screen sharing feature that the MyTouch 4g is touting. Does anyone know if this is something that's possible on the G2?

wrong forum!

i have to ask only because im clueless, wtf is DLNA screen sharing?
thanx, veritas

veritasaequita said:
i have to ask only because im clueless, wtf is DLNA screen sharing?
thanx, veritas
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My understanding of it is this, it's the ability to stream content directly from your phone to a DLNA compliant device, kind of like a networked media storage device would do. It can be a substitute for TV out in some cases. I have some movies (home movies, photos, etc) that I just recorded on my G2 and want to watch them on my TV. Well, my PS3 is DLNA compliant and I would stream these movies through my PS3. If anyone else has anything to add or wants to correct anything that I may have misstated please do.

How can I enable the long-hold action for the Menu button that pops up the on-screen keyboard?

While I am foaming at the mouth to know how to make my g2 dlna, i have a far moar simple question.
Just need some help starting an app.. such as setcpu from visionary.sh.
I know i can set it from app to start on boot, but have run into it not having su permission at that point. yes I am a script or cmd line no0b but any help would be appreciated.

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While I am foaming at the mouth to know how to make my g2 dlna, i have a far moar simple question.
Just need some help starting an app.. such as setcpu from visionary.sh.
I know i can set it from app to start on boot, but have run into it not having su permission at that point. yes I am a script or cmd line no0b but any help would be appreciated.
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I feel that's a bit more specific question to be asked in the visionARY app thread located: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=808514
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In regards to my posting, is there a decent Guide or Bible that has the various complexities of the Android Kernel?
What is QMI, What is Fastboot, all these types of important Acronyms and Terms that are not known to the general joe schmoe.
Thanks

phragg said:
I feel that's a bit more specific question to be asked in the visionARY app thread located: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=808514
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In regards to my posting, is there a decent Guide or Bible that has the various complexities of the Android Kernel?
What is QMI, What is Fastboot, all these types of important Acronyms and Terms that are not known to the general joe schmoe.
Thanks
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Your answer to my question was sooo unhelpful. Read that thread my question is posted there, and it has gone unanswered. I have also read most of the threads in general, app, and have done a search with no real clear answer.
So now you can either help me or give me some moar useless links.

haensgn said:
Your answer to my question was sooo unhelpful. Read that thread my question is posted there, and it has gone unanswered. I have also read most of the threads in general, app, and have done a search with no real clear answer.
So now you can either help me or give me some moar useless links.
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Dont get upset

ok , l know !

can someone please help point me in the right direction to overclock my g2. i have read and read but havent been able to completely understnad too well. im a new member here but been lurking for a few months.

93pgt said:
can someone please help point me in the right direction to overclock my g2. i have read and read but havent been able to completely understnad too well. im a new member here but been lurking for a few months.
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If you could tell me what part of the first post here
you dont under stand i can surely walk you through it.
pls tell if you have the temp. root yet and if you have the new ota

93pgt said:
can someone please help point me in the right direction to overclock my g2. i have read and read but havent been able to completely understnad too well. im a new member here but been lurking for a few months.
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Take a look at this thread. Should help you get through it easily.

to tell you the truth i was afraid to root my cliq because i didnt want to brick the phone, so no i havent temp rooted yet. i have the new ota. with the temp root if i shut my my off or it dies will it revert back to stoc because of the backup installed
edit. i downloaded visionary about 5 minutes ago so i did the 1 click root.

First off, its not a backup. Secondly, if you reboot you'll clear the cache and will have to re-root. Its temp, so you won't brick your phone.
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[WIKI] for the Xperia Play

Hey Guys,
well wiki and sticky are up - so lets gather more information
If u got some ideas of missing topics - just add them or post it here...
thanks for helping Piratetris, XHale931
OLD:
got my Xperiay Play since Friday.
Since I searched and found a lot of information since that day, I wondered why we dont have a propper complilation... like the ones im used to have from other devices.
Since this thread is not maintained anymore and its hard to updated it all by one person alone I thought about using the wiki wich is totaly underrated here at XDA anyway.
So I added a picture and started creating the WIKI page for our beloved device - wich didn't exist yet
Since im quite new here and I propably don't know all the things and my time is very limited atm - any help is welcome - feel free to add your favourite content and correct all the mistakes and typing mistakes I did
e.g. add the hardware specs,...
Please keep the structure clean and don't go into detail too much so it doesn't get blown...
@Mod: would be nice if this got pinned since many people really don't know and use the wiki at xda atm

editing as we speak :]

Stuck it
Good idea, keep it growing
Best, DK

Great Job.

Fixed phone models and colors. Fixed a crap ton of spelling errors so it actually looks decent. Fixed false information.

Good job. Keep it going.

Excellent job on the wiki!
Would like to see maybe a table of ROM versions and which phones they are compatible with.

do u seach users, helping u with that?

If you need any help with Wiki clean ups, I have a fair knowledge of making them look good. I was and still am an admin for the EQ2Emulator wiki (;

Amazing!
Keep up the good work!

Thanks.

Nice. I've added and will add to it.

nice !! thanks

I'm going to contribute to the page a bit

Great job. Let's make it grow

EDIT: Sigh. Never mind.
All this talking I was doing about the kernel update, it was just because of a very simple thing I did not understand until today:
*** If your ROM update includes a new boot.img file, then UPDATE THE DAMN boot.img IN YOUR PHONE AGAIN, using flashtool or whatever tool you used before.
My apologies for being that slow.

xperia play is really good but some of glu mobile games is not compatible and the screen is LCD but its great

So if I unlock the bootloader, install a ROM and then I install the stock ROM and re-lock the bootloader Sony still will know that my xPLay was once unlocked?¿

Official Method
If you unlock your bootloader using the official SE method, even if you relock it, they will always know.

I heard if you unlock it with the S1 tool method you could relock it again without any problems.