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HTC Rezound Now, or Quad-core HTC Edge Later?
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Alleged images of the HTC Edge, rumored to be the world's first quad-core smartphone when it launches in early 2012, have surfaced via Pocket Now.
As far as smartphones go, this one is at the top of the food chain. It packs a quad-core, 1.5-GHz Nvidia Tegra 3 CPU, 4.7-inch display with 720p resolution, an 8-megapixel camera with F/2.2 lens, 1GB of RAM, Beats Audio headphones, and the HTC Sense interface. In other words, it's twice as powerful as the HTC Rezound launched last week, which hits Verizon on November 14 for $300.
Strangely, 4G LTE support was not mentioned; instead the Edge is supposed to support 21Mbps HSPA+ (AT&T's old 4G technology).
In February, Nvidia announced Kal-El, the first quad-core mobile processor, and it first hit the market in October via the Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime. For more, my colleague Michael Miller "dissected" Kal-El and its "secret fifth core."
Last week, Verizon Wireless and HTC announced the HTC Rezound, HTC's first Beats Audio-paired smartphone. It's a 4G LTE device featuring a 4.3-inch 720p HD display, 1.5-GHz dual-core processor, 32GB of storage, 1GB of RAM, and the latest version of HTC Sense. It also sports an 8-megapixel camera and records video in 1080p. For more, see PCMag's Hands On With the HTC Rezound and slideshow below.
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Dang. All that stood out to me was 4.7-inch display. That is huge!
I might wait for this phone. I love my incredible still and putting a different ROM on it every week makes it feel like a new phone. Might hold out for this phone if it is on Verizon's network.

It didn't look like a verizon phone to me, plus I'd rather have a S4 processor than Tegra3

If it said HSPA+ then it's not coming to Verizon.
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I think it'll have a cdma counterpart that comes to VZW. Hopefully 4G LTE will be included.
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4.3 is too big
4.7 is ridiculous. I hope people don't buy these phones so manufactures can start making them portable again.
They say Q1 or Q2, but they're known to have delays on big phones like this so it may be Q3 or Q4, or later. I wouldn't wait for this one if I was you.

Doesn't matter how many cores it has. HTC will find new and exciting ways to make the superphone choppy and laggy through bloat and inefficient software design.
I guess there is a difference if you plan on putting AOSP on it though.
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Div033 said:
Doesn't matter how many cores it has. HTC will find new and exciting ways to make the superphone choppy and laggy through bloat and inefficient software design.
I guess there is a difference if you plan on putting AOSP on it though.
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Huh, weird. Because Sense 3.5 runs perfectly fine on my phone, as good as AOSP, with obviously a few exceptions because of how old this Incredible hardware is, and since there's still a few little bugs in the rom.
Anyways, all these ICS phones are gonna be awesome, and it's awesome that this one still has capacitive buttons, so far. Battery life on it should be awesome though, except the rumor that it's 4.7 inches, that's basically close to the really small tablet area. But if it truly does come with 720p resolution, hopefully the rom from it will get ported to the Rezound

At what point will these quad core behemoth's start needing cooling fans.
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Huh, weird. Because Sense 3.5 runs perfectly fine on my phone, as good as AOSP, with obviously a few exceptions because of how old this Incredible hardware is, and since there's still a few little bugs in the rom.
Anyways, all these ICS phones are gonna be awesome, and it's awesome that this one still has capacitive buttons, so far. Battery life on it should be awesome though, except the rumor that it's 4.7 inches, that's basically close to the really small tablet area. But if it truly does come with 720p resolution, hopefully the rom from it will get ported to the Rezound
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The only way I've gotten sense 3.5 to work well on my phone is with the "2D hack" that the rcmix team figured out to make the sense widgets not have 30 different objects to render at once (calendar comes to mind). Even then, there's the dreaded pull down notification lag which is even present on the Amaze 4G, but amplified on our older hardware. Not to mention that despite all this it STILL takes 3-4 seconds to launch common apps like DIALER as opposed to the nearly instantaneous AOSP.
They have good UI designers but terrible programmers.
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Battery life on it should be awesome though, except the rumor that it's 4.7 inches, that's basically close to the really small tablet area.
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If this phone has everything the article says it'll have then I don't see how the battery life will be awesome, sounds like it'll be worse than the t-bolt
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If this phone has everything the article says it'll have then I don't see how the battery life will be awesome, sounds like it'll be worse than the t-bolt
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Quad-core. They should save battery, though nobody's entirely sure with phones. The first quad core tablet, the Asus Transformer Prime that's coming out, has a battery life of 12 hours while using it...plus I think like 16 or 18 with the keyboard dock. I'm not sure what size battery it has, but that's nice. And I'm pretty sure it has to do with the quad core
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First, I doubt that's a phone that's coming in 2012... ICS does NOT support capacitive buttons and any Android phone that releases in 2012 without ICS is going to languish.
Second, it's certainly not coming to Verizon with HSPA+. There are plenty of great phones that come out on other carriers that never make it to Verizon.
A note about the Tegra 3... The reason it's going to have such amazing battery life is because there is actually a fifth core, called a companion core, that it switches to when the phone isn't doing anything. Cool technology...
As an aside, when is a screen too big?

My quad core dell xps has terrible battery, but i have it set to max performance with the 2 gig nvidia card in it. Only lasts 1.5 hours.
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First, I doubt that's a phone that's coming in 2012... ICS does NOT support capacitive buttons and any Android phone that releases in 2012 without ICS is going to languish.
Second, it's certainly not coming to Verizon with HSPA+. There are plenty of great phones that come out on other carriers that never make it to Verizon.
A note about the Tegra 3... The reason it's going to have such amazing battery life is because there is actually a fifth core, called a companion core, that it switches to when the phone isn't doing anything. Cool technology...
As an aside, when is a screen too big?
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Really? Cause the nexus s port of ics uses the capacitive touch buttons...all HTC has to do is write the code to make it work...that's too easy to be a reason it won't get ics..
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First, I doubt that's a phone that's coming in 2012... ICS does NOT support capacitive buttons and any Android phone that releases in 2012 without ICS is going to languish.
Second, it's certainly not coming to Verizon with HSPA+. There are plenty of great phones that come out on other carriers that never make it to Verizon.
A note about the Tegra 3... The reason it's going to have such amazing battery life is because there is actually a fifth core, called a companion core, that it switches to when the phone isn't doing anything. Cool technology...
As an aside, when is a screen too big?
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Yeah, ICS most definitely DOES support capacitive buttons, because otherwise, that'd be a total fail in Android by doing that, considering all the phones that are potentially getting upgraded. It's just common sense. And yep, I've read plenty about the companion core. Finally, a screen is too big to me when I can't comfortably hold, and operate it at the same time with one hand, a nearly 5 inch screen is not comfortable. Might as well get a small tablet if you want that kind of screen size. That on a cell phone is ridiculous. 4.3 is the highest I'll go.

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[Q] What phone are you gonna get after Desire Z/G2 ?

i'm not thinking about getting a new phone (yet), but what are you guys up to?
I may wait for coming HTC models for late this year or 2012, beats audio powered and sure Ice cream sandwich in da house.
Though Samsung to be considered.
Had my Z for almost one year. Rocks with 2.3!!
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I've only had my z for a couple months so not looking too soon (I generally keep a phone for 6-9 months) but when I do swap out I'll probably go for another qwerty handset. Milestone 3 maybe. Unless htc come up trumps with an update to this lovely piece of kit.
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My self-imposed goal is to keep on the Desire Z for at least a year, and I got it in December 2010. So I'm going to try to wait it out until end of the year, then see what HTC is offering (or has coming soon) at that time. If I had to get a phone now (if mine broke), I'd look at the Sensation (available from Canada Bell, compatible with AT&T 3G bands) or the Holiday, which is supposed to be out on AT&T soon (this month or next).
Although I'm a bit torn on the hardware keyboard issue lately. This is my 3rd smartphone, all of which have been HTC with a hardware keyboard. But lately I find myself using Swype quite a bit nowadays, and even thinking of going without a hardware keyboard for my next phone. But sometimes, for longer messages I still go back to the hardware keyboard.
i would probably go for the htc sensation XE or sensation once the prices drop on ebay
Hoping for the next nexus or the NEXT next nexus. But I definitely need a FFC and NFC....
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Really going to hold out as long as I can. All of these recent phones coming out look nice, but I'm really still happy with the G2. Its fast and very usable, even with (admittedly) lacking specs. Keeping the phone rooted running a custom ROM breathes new life into this device for sure.
I've had the G2 since January, and I'm going to stick with it for several more months. I'm waiting to see the next 'Nexus' device from Google to see if its really worth it. If ICS is as game changing and innovative as I hope, It'll be hard to resist for sure. I think that'll be the deciding factor for me now.
I'm really not hung up on specs. I get everything done just fine on 512mb RAM and 800mhz processor right now, so I'm not exactly drooling for 1gb RAM and dual core just yet (use cases vary obviously). If the interface and new software is great, and I can really get more done with it, I'm sure I'll end up pulling the trigger on a new device like that.
One thing not keeping me on the G2 is the keyboard. Its nice when I need to bang out some long emails or texts, but the extra heft and thickness just isn't worth it to me. It isn't a big negative though. As far as horizontal sliders go the G2 is quite thin.
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Hoping for the next nexus or the NEXT next nexus.
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I've been disappointed with the Nexus series every since Google moved from HTC to Samsung. Samsung has decent hardware (good displays) but casings seem cheap and plastic compared to most HTC phones. And with Google's purchase of Motorola's mobile division, I have a feeling we may see future Nexus versions coming straight from Google, and made by "former" Motorola folks. And personally, I've been consistently underwhelmed by just about every Motorola smartphone, and they are a step below Samsung.
Been hearing the next 'Nexus' device will be named 'Nexus Prime' and manufactured by Samsung as well. I have hopes that Google will go back to HTC because Sammy's build quality is quite lacking (plastic vs aluminium housing).
I will be holding out for the next 'G' or Desire device from HTC for as long as I can. If I had to choose one now, it would be the Sensation or Holiday. I can say for sure that the manufacturer will be HTC though.
ive heard rumour of rogers canada getting the samsung S2 slide this fall...itll be my replacement. with huge hands and fingers i will not type on a screen lol. hw kb is a must for this cat.
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G3
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I was a click away from buying a sensation couple of nights ago then i said to myself maybe ill wait to see the nexus prime or another qwerty htc
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G3
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Ideally that's what I want, because I've been happy with the "G" series, but I haven't seen any indication that they'll be a third G phone. Hopefully that's the case. If not, then a good HTC phone with a slide out keyboard will do. I find myself using it less and less, but I still would like to have it for the sake of versatility.
It's amazing how much having a phone being rooted extends the life of the phone. I would like to see what the next Google Phone is. I see a lot of 4.5 - 4.7 inch screens coming out. I think i'll ditch the full qwerty for a thinner phone with a larger screen. Hopefully Googarola can make me happy with a Nexus/G3 with a 4.8 inch screen, a 1.5 GHz dual core proc, a 720p front facing camera, and of course ICS.
I recently rooted my Desire Z and am not really looking for a replacement anytime soon.
If I were to replace it now a device like the myTouch 4G Slide (HTC Doubleshot) would suit me perfectly. The only thing I'm really missing is a front camera but I'm definitely happy with my Desire Z for now. Ideally, the HTC Doubleshot would come out in Europe as well as I want a qwerty keyboard, front camera and a screen that's not too big.
I'm currently running Virtuous Doubleshot ROM and really like it.
skiptomylou11 said:
Ideally that's what I want, because I've been happy with the "G" series, but I haven't seen any indication that they'll be a third G phone. Hopefully that's the case. If not, then a good HTC phone with a slide out keyboard will do. I find myself using it less and less, but I still would like to have it for the sake of versatility.
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Actually the G-Infinity is what I'm waiting for as well.
I'm assuming it will be the competitor to iphone5 =)
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Please give us a G3 I know for a fact 3rd will be the Charm for HTC can u imagine the level they could take it Next. I'm hope they roll out another 1.
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Hm... there is no replace for Desire Z right now in the market, and that shame.
I think, for me, I will wait tull HTC release some new slider for europe, becouse I quite integrate with HTC Sense, and it is quite nice for me. I dont think how to back to clean android after HTC Sense.
My primary need is phisical qwerty keyboard and medium screen mot less then 3.5" and not bigger then 4".
So far , nothing in mind.
What has a qwerty, track pad, speed, sd, HD cam, 480x800 and up screen res, FM, etc and got a high rating in costumers satisfaction?
Nothing yet. What I'm maybe looking for : 2 core, super amoled, better battery life.
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So far , nothing in mind.
What has a qwerty, track pad, speed, sd, HD cam, 480x800 and up screen res, FM, etc and got a high rating in costumers satisfaction?
Nothing yet. What I'm maybe looking for : 2 core, super amoled, better battery life.
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Interesting graphic/article, thanks for posting it. It pretty much mirrors my personal opinion on the build quality and design of the major smartphone manufacturers (HTC>Samsung>Moto>LG). Of course, with the exception of Apple being at the top. As I think most on here would agree, I just don't like Apple's closed ecosystem.

Will this phone ever get as smooth as the SII ?

Ok, I have been with my Verizon-Nexus for 5 days now, having come from Sprint and the Epic 4G Touch Galaxy SII.
My Galaxy SII was rooted with the best ROM by Calk. Phone was ****ing crazy fast, and smooth as hot butter, ZERO lag whatsoever. You just barely touched the phone and it did what you command in 1/100th of a second
Now I have the Galaxy-Nexus, tried it stock, and then with a couple of the most popular ROM's + kernels, and stock or ROM'd this Nexus just has lag in areas I was not expecting. And the colors of the screen are not as vibrant and popping like the GSII. But my biggest gripe is how laggy this phone feels, it is pretty shocking, just open and close the app drawer, there is an ever so slight hiccup when it zooms in and out, almost a slight shake or stutter, for just a split second. But on my GS2 it opened before you hit the button, you just thought it and bam it opened, was that fast.
Scrolling and swiping between screens, is not as fluid as the GS2, there can be just a tiny bit of lag on the swipe of the Nexus, where the GS2 was like flowing water smooth. What I mean is, go to your furthest screen, then press the home key for it to take you back, there can be a little jitterbug lag on the Nexus for like 1/2 a sec, but on the GS2 it is warp speed factor 9 fast.
Battery life, just no comparison whatsoever, the GS2 could go 40+ hours on light, and 16 hours on full blast heavy day with like 4 hours on screen display. Nexus is not even in the same league. Hopefully Google updates and improved ROM's will fix this eventually.
Enough *****ing I do love the Nexus, pure ICS is awesome, and no GS2 ROM can come close, and the LTE network and better carrier overall compared to Sprint is why I jumped ship. The high res 720p screen is amazing, as much as a loved the GS2 screen, the high detail on the Nexus is awesome. The build quality on the Nexus feels very solid, and just a mature and artist design, compared to the plastic cheap GS2 feel.
The Nexus feels like Android has grown up, and improved greatly. Just I have a beef with the lag, and chop in this phone. If it came out after the GS2, and is running the latest and greatest OS, it should blow the GS2 out of the water, not be a step backwards in performance. Why didn't Samsung + Google think this out a little better, I mean build it off the GS2 architecture, use the same hardware from the GS2, but with the high res 720p screen, and 4.0 ICS. It seems in the hardware area they dropped the ball or something ?
The screen is more realistic in terms of color compared to the over saturated screen of the SII. Also, I can get two days on light usage easy.. and 20 hours with 3.5 screen on as well.. I also don't have the lag you speak of :/
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Try bigxie's rom and pair it with Franco's kernel.
If you still think the phone is laggy, then you should probably go back to the sgs2.
sorry, hit reply button to fast. you are forgetting one EXTREME major difference between the TWO devices.
the nexus does NOT have a DUAL CORE processor.
the S2 DOES
LORDFIRE00 said:
sorry, hit reply button to fast. you are forgetting one EXTREME major difference between the TWO devices.
the nexus does NOT have a DUAL CORE processor.
the S2 DOES
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You must be thinking about the nexus s as the galaxy nexus most definitely does have dual core.
The biggest diff between the s2 and the gn is that the gn has a display resolution of 1280x720 which means the gpu has to push 2.5x more pixels than the s2.
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sorry, hit reply button to fast. you are forgetting one EXTREME major difference between the TWO devices.
the nexus does NOT have a DUAL CORE processor.
the S2 DOES
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Really?
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lordfire00 said:
sorry, hit reply button to fast. You are forgetting one extreme major difference between the two devices.
The nexus does not have a dual core processor.
The s2 does
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lol lol lol lol lol !!!
I don't get any lag either?
It's great for me though, this phone has absolutely exceeded my expectations.
LORDFIRE00 said:
sorry, hit reply button to fast. you are forgetting one EXTREME major difference between the TWO devices.
the nexus does NOT have a DUAL CORE processor.
the S2 DOES
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Hes talking about the GS2 Exynos dual core vs nexus TI Omap dual core. Exynos is known to be a beast in the mobile processor. Iphone 4s dual core may be the only better dual core at the moment. But im sure the next best thing is just around the corner as always... tegra 3 samsungs own exynos quad core etc.
so i just sold my s2.... to buy a GNEX... lol was the extra cash worth it? lol it comes in mail tomorrow im stoked!
Unfortunately the GN has more pixels to push with a slower GPU.
I swear the verizon version must be different cause i get smooth as butter on the gsm version. And we see lots of complaints of lag on the verizon one.
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I swear the verizon version must be different cause i get smooth as butter on the gsm version. And we see lots of complaints of lag on the verizon one.
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With this ROM the phone is much smoother, I don't mean to exaggerate, this is a fast and bad ass phone, don't get me wrong.
Just saying, if you have used a rooted and ROM'd Galaxy SII, that phone just seems fluid and smooth 110% of the time, where the Nexus is smooth 90% of the time if that makes sense.
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I totally agree with you mate, SGS2 is a much faster and more responsive, and fluid phone than the Galaxy Nexus
Other than the high resolution of the screen straining the processor, I dont know what could be the reason.
However, BATTERY! I cant offer any explanation, how the heck can there be such a major (almost 50%) drop in the performance from SGS2 to GN just on battery? I mean WTF!
i have no idea what u guys are smoking , but Gnex has been the smoothest android ive used ,and i have friends with SG2 and note on custom roms.
if u want faster animations and according to u u consider that as "Smoothness" just download spare parts and make all transitions and animations super fast.
PS: Im on AOKP milestone2 with franco's kernel with nova launcher .
0 lag or hipcups till now blows my friends GS2 away in fluidity and scrolling.
could be because you used crap ones earlier really, and ive seen not one or few MANY sgs2 being more responsive, faster in moving across screens and much more fluid in experience.
just go and check the number of threads on here where going back using the home screen is jittery for users, and the screen comes with small patches being rendered and then the full page, it is so stupid to see that!!
maybe you're the one smoking here.
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also just go and check quadrant, the GPU rendering performance is so patchy, the FPS is a paltry 10-20 or something
and compare that with SGS2 - thats so clearly flawless!! something like 50-60fps
just go and check on youtube on the comparison video which clearly shows that.
Quadrant isn't optimised for pics yet. Maybe you should download a touchwiz rim for the nexus lmao
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Quadrant isn't optimised for ics yet. Maybe you should download a touchwiz rom for the nexus? lmao
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Try bigxie's rom and pair it with Franco's kernel.
If you still think the phone is laggy, then you should probably go back to the sgs2.
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Totally agree, I have the same config except with the apex kernel and it is close to being like my SGS2. I prefer the physical size of the nexus though. I can't wait for a stable ics build for the SGS2 so I can compare both.
Here's my quadrant score running bigxie rom and franco kernel. I'm OCed to 1.35ghz.
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i may get another phone...

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/03/18/htc-one-x-for-sprint-details-surface-rumored-to-be-codenamed-jet-and-possibly-arriving-in-june/
THIS looks tasty and i live in pittsburgh so lte should be soon.
Doesn't look too bad. Curious how much it's going to weigh.
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Heyyy another Pittsburgher lol. You are correct, we were relatively early in the wimax roll out, so I expect a similar timeline for LTE.
I'm waiting for S3 confirmation though, I'm pretty loyal to Samsung.
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Nice Phone ...But Im waitin on the Quad Cores and I had HTC for a long time but I think Im gonna stick with Sammy...Time will tell...
ill prbly have both the s3 and 1x also you do realize this is a dualcore a15 not an a9 and the lte chip is built in so MUCH better battery life. This is a Krait http://www.anandtech.com/show/4170/qualcomms-announces-krait-cpu-the-successor-to-scorpion
it is one bad piece of silicon.
Also with its upgraded graphics it may not be as fast as the exy gen 2 but seeing as how it will be a much more common chip for both at&t sprint and prbly verizon this will make for much faster rom development between the 3 as only the modem should be different.
Nice I've never owned an HTC but I have always liked them, this phone looks sweet!
HTC has one big problem. Some of their drivers have been abysmal in the past.
They put together nice hardware, always. Then they don't use its features. Like gpu acceleration.
I've always owned htc devices since original HTC Touch. Epic Touch was my first Sammy device. And it's like night and day in terms of how snappy it is, compared to say - evo 3d (which I still own, and just used it for about 3 weeks when my old epic touch was in repair.)
Even those T-mob gs2 are apparently much snappier than anything HTC put out with the same scorpion chipset - Sammy just know to properly optimize drivers and deliver the full power of the hardware.
Looks like a nice device but I think I will be sticking with my epic touch for a while.
nabbed you also cant forget sense was not gpu aceled thats part of it. even if they had good drivers. it wouldnt of made a diff
Ewww no best option is
Gnex > SGS3 > The next Nexus > SGS4
^ See the cycle ._.
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Ewww no best option is
Gnex > SGS3 > The next Nexus > SGS4
^ See the cycle ._.
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GN is a downgrade compared to Epic touch - slower gpu and lower res camera.
This design decision by Google has always baffled me - let's make our brand new flagship phone slower than the 10 months old phone by the same manufacturer.
Just wanted to chime in.
1. Quad Core is not actually always better. The phone OS is not optimized for it yet. So, you are really running a 4 cylinder engine on 2. Plus, the current quad cores use the previous generations technology. I read an article that said the new s4 processors are 40 percent more powerful per core over the tegra 3. So, this dual core is faster and more advanced than the tegra 3.
Another way to look at it is the 4 banger in my AUDI is faster than the V6 in your Taurus.
2. The new phone doesn't look anything like the one in the pic. That is a One X. Sprint is not getting the ONE X.
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GN is a downgrade compared to Epic touch - slower gpu and lower res camera.
This design decision by Google has always baffled me - let's make our brand new flagship phone slower than the 10 months old phone by the same manufacturer.
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Like the Post above me explains google chooses hardware that best fits and utilizes their software ...
Why do you think the iPhone has ****ty specs but is still one of (if not the best) smartphone on the market ?
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Like the Post above me explains google chooses hardware that best fits and utilizes their software ...
Why do you think the iPhone has ****ty specs but is still one of (if not the best) smartphone on the market ?
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Using lower spec hardware is better? You now assemble hardware to fit the software?
"Oh yeah, this 5mp camera is much hotter than that cranky old 8mp camera!
Oh wait, the image quality is worse? But you see, the lower the megapixel count, the faster it snaps."
Iphone has bad hardware but is one of the best, if not the best, phones?
Man, it's like you take logic and fact, then turn it all upside down.
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.. Hardware isn't everything...
Another pittsburgher here, I am going to wait for the s3 also. The one x looks great but the s3 will probably be alot more optimized. I just hope they put out the white one at launch instead of waiting a month or two after launch.
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nabbed said:
Using lower spec hardware is better? You now assemble hardware to fit the software?
"Oh yeah, this 5mp camera is much hotter than that cranky old 8mp camera!
Oh wait, the image quality is worse? But you see, the lower the megapixel count, the faster it snaps."
Iphone has bad hardware but is one of the best, if not the best, phones?
Man, it's like you take logic and fact, then turn it all upside down.
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the iPhone has really good hardware. Besides that point, the primary reason iOS performs so well (besides the steller hardware) is that that iOS does more RealTime prioritizing. It essentially gives the current task top priority, which is why iOS can't do real multi tasking, they suspend apps and then resume them as needed (Android does this too, albeit slightly different - onPause onResume, etc).
So the combination of the iPhone's good hardware with high prio. for the foreground tasks is why their OS is super snappy (this could be called great design, and they definitely utilize their hardware to the max for rendering effects and what not)
It has nothing to do with Objective-C vs Java either, as some people think. Ever since the dalvik VM has adopted JIT, the performance differences between the languages is minimal
nabbed said:
Using lower spec hardware is better? You now assemble hardware to fit the software?
"Oh yeah, this 5mp camera is much hotter than that cranky old 8mp camera!
Oh wait, the image quality is worse? But you see, the lower the megapixel count, the faster it snaps."
Iphone has bad hardware but is one of the best, if not the best, phones?
Man, it's like you take logic and fact, then turn it all upside down.
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i hate to break it to you but megapixels doesnt equal image quality, my nexus s 4g blows the water out of my photons 8mp camera. samsung makes really decent cameras. same goes for teh iphone, it has hands down one of the BEST image sensors in the market for phones.
so even though the iphone 4's camera is 5MP's i would honestly stack it up against almost any android phone currently out in terms of picture quality. now if your looking for bigger images then yea grab that 8mp camera.
the reason why apple doesnt need to have the best hardware out there every 6 months is because they only have at most 6 (current gen iphone, ipad and itouch plus previous gen) platforms to write iOS for, and they do a VERY good job of optimizing the code for em all. companies like samsung or htc have a crapload of devices flooding the market each one more different than the last thus making it hard to make sure ics runs amazingly great on one platform and then starting the next. despite having older hardware and crappy features (IMO) the iphone isnt still around because its a social thing, there is actually some benefits.
P.S. i would like to state that i am a former iphone 3g owner, and i will never go back to that crap, if android collapses ill go wp7 before ios again
No thanks. I like seeing my phone screen in the day time
Im sold if the bootloader is unlocked and it comes in black.

LG Nitro HD Owners, Please Help! Do you love your phone? Upgrading - need input

So guys, simple as that. I'm upgrading soon. I am wondering if any of you would have chosen a different phone, now that you have owned the Nitro HD for quite some time. If so, what phone? I'm on AT&T btw. Some people say the A2 is nice. I'm stuck deciding. Also, does anyone know when AT&T will be releasing more phones?? Tegra 3 maybe? Also, if any AT&T insiders are about, any recollection as to when they will be dropping prices again? Thanks for all input everyone!
carpenterethan said:
So guys, simple as that. I'm upgrading soon. I am wondering if any of you would have chosen a different phone, now that you have owned the Nitro HD for quite some time. If so, what phone? I'm on AT&T btw. Some people say the A2 is nice. I'm stuck deciding. Also, does anyone know when AT&T will be releasing more phones?? Tegra 3 maybe? Also, if any AT&T insiders are about, any recolection as to when they will be dropping prices again? Thanks for all imput everyone!
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yes! this phone does the job...CM9, all i have to say!
I love the screen on this phone. The camera is good, processor is fast and CM9 nightlies are rolling out. My only complaint is the battery life could be better, especially with heavy use.
Goto BestBuy. The phone is only $50 right now and you get a FREE pair of LG Tone bluetooth headphones. It is a SWEET deal. Good luck deciding!
It will be amazing with a stable cm9. But maybe wait for the HTC One X.
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FistPie said:
I love the screen on this phone. The camera is good, processor is fast and CM9 nightlies are rolling out. My only complaint is the battery life could be better, especially with heavy use.
Goto BestBuy. The phone is only $50 right now and you get a FREE pair of LG Tone bluetooth headphones. It is a SWEET deal. Good luck deciding!
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haha, i took advantage of that deal!
Hoorah! Thanks for the heads up on the BB deal! I was going to call them, haven't had time. Sounds prettttttyyyyy tempting! HTC One X, you say? *GSMOOGLES*- DROOL 1.5ghz quad core??? Why does everything get topped in a matter of months!!! Good for people who can afford the status quo. :'( I want one now... my dreams will be haunted until I own a quad core phone now. :/ I just shelled $235.00 on an Acer A500 and I love it.... but i'll be darned if quad cores aren't about to $### on all of my current devices *FacePalm* /rant
Haha. XDA is such a loyal community.... love every moment on here.
'HTC One X Release date leak'
*** http://www.androidcentral.com/att-htc-one-x-release-date-moved-may-6-best-buy-tells-customer-e-mail ***
FistPie said:
Goto BestBuy. The phone is only $50 right now and you get a FREE pair of LG Tone bluetooth headphones. It is a SWEET deal. Good luck deciding!
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I'm guessing with a cell contract!?
If just the phone I'll drive to Buffalo tonight lol
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Flyview said:
I'm guessing with a cell contract!?
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Ohhhhyeah! This isn't metro pcs my friend ^_^
These guys have me drooling over the HTC One X now..............
Release date_ http://www.androidcentral.com/att-htc-one-x-release-date-moved-may-6-best-buy-tells-customer-e-mail _
Yes, I love my LG Nitro, But only because I flashed different ROMs into it. ( Currently Nightly #3 of CyanogenMod9)
When I had it with the stock ROM, I was having missed thoughts about it due to some lag, and bloatware, manly unused programs like Zanga Poker and some At&t software.
Thank God for XDADevelopers
Welcome friend!
Raymen864 said:
Yes, I love my LG Nitro, But only because I flashed different ROMs into it. ( Currently Nightly #3 of CyanogenMod9)
When I had it with the stock ROM, I was having missed thoughts about it due to some lag, and bloatware, manly unused programs like Zanga Poker and some At&t software.
Thank God for XDADevelopers
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On behalf of our friends here at XDA, Welcome aboard! Looks like you have found your way around!
carpenterethan said:
Hoorah! Thanks for the heads up on the BB deal! I was going to call them, haven't had time. Sounds prettttttyyyyy tempting! HTC One X, you say? *GSMOOGLES*- DROOL 1.5ghz quad core??? Why does everything get topped in a matter of months!!! Good for people who can afford the status quo. :'( I want one now... my dreams will be haunted until I own a quad core phone now. :/ I just shelled $235.00 on an Acer A500 and I love it.... but i'll be darned if quad cores aren't about to $### on all of my current devices *FacePalm* /rant
Haha. XDA is such a loyal community.... love every moment on here.
'HTC One X Release date leak'
*** http://www.androidcentral.com/att-htc-one-x-release-date-moved-may-6-best-buy-tells-customer-e-mail ***
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Something to keep in mind about the One X is that there will be 2 different versions of it. Europe gets the Tegra 3 quad core but no LTE. In the US, the AT&T One X will have LTE but will be using a Qualcomm S4 dual core instead.
I just recently upgraded after weeks of debate and I have to say i am very happy and this is with the stock rom a couple quirks here Nd there but no show stoppers I'm very satisfied and I will be even more once we get ICS officially
gmkelly001 said:
Something to keep in mind about the One X is that there will be 2 different versions of it. Europe gets the Tegra 3 quad core but no LTE. In the US, the AT&T One X will have LTE but will be using a Qualcomm S4 dual core instead.
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So if I am wanting to get the HTC one X on my upgrade when the time comes, i'm still looking @ a dual-core phone? LAME! AT&T always finds some way to take the fun out of things! I don't need LTE I need QUAD CORE PROCESSING POWER WITH A 12 CORE GPU :O
AT&FAIL
Looks like I might go with the Nitro after all... virturally same specs... just an ugly bulky phone. (In some peoples' opinion.)
Does AT&T usually drop prices on que with new phone releases? I looked online for the BB deal for $50 w a bluetooth headset and just got the $99.99 to show... maybe it has to be in store for the promo.
Would be nice if an AT&T rogue dropped by with some pretty enlightening information regarding release dates and prices here's to wishful thinking!
i think you would be much happier with a white iphone 4
scott0 said:
i think you would be much happier with a white iphone 4
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http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_4-3275.php Or if you want to make it (still un)fair... http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Apple-iPhone-4S_id5257 VS http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nitro_hd-4329.php
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Thanks for the offer though, Scott. Why do you prefer the Iphone? Do you realize Apple manufactures these things to brick if they know you jailbroke them? Let alone shattered glass on front and back if you drop it on anything other than a pillow. :/
I prefer android because they have an open developer community, as well as more durable phones for the most part, if you're going to chunk your phone b/c ur mate pissed you off and you don't have a case on it, you are on your own there. For most of us though, our phones will only suffer a drop from pocket or head height. Aprox 6 ft drop. Take this food for thought >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKJp9EMRjXY <<< drop test between the Galasy S2 and Iphone 4
With cm9 this phone is prolly better than any phone at the market right now, even at&t's htc one x wont be much better than the nitro..
Only downside is the battery, i'm carrying 2 extra batterys to survive 24hrs away from the power plug, but thats because i use it a lot, when its idling it doesnt use that much(like 8/10% on 8hours sleep)
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With cm9 this phone is prolly better than any phone at the market right now, even at&t's htc one x wont be much better than the nitro..
Only downside is the battery, i'm carrying 2 extra batterys to survive 24hrs away from the power plug, but thats because i use it a lot, when its idling it doesnt use that much(like 8/10% on 8hours sleep)
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Do you use juice defender or a screen filter for less power consumption? These two things usually increase my battery life on X device almost twice the normal runtime.
I had the p930 for a while now and i bricked it once took it back to Bell and they fixed it free of charged but I had to survive using a first generation palm pre.....for a week
and now I scared of rooting it again and flashing rom..
VinceIk said:
I had the p930 for a while now and i bricked it once took it back to Bell and they fixed it free of charged but I had to survive using a first generation palm pre.....for a week
and now I scared of rooting it again and flashing rom..
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How exactly did you manage to brick your phone sir? Usually it's due to impatience and pulling the battery/usb cord. I've done this before w my cappy. Luckily they are virturally unbrickable... with a jig.
wasnt impatience
thats what I did
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23076608&postcount=306

The One X finally won a comparison with the GS3

In the Engadget summer buying guide they chose the One X as the top phone. Enjoy the one publication win. :highfive:
And v3 will edit with lots more shortly personally who has the biggest nob doesn't bother me but hey whatever floats your boat
http://m.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/review/2184581/htc-vs-samsung-galaxy-s3-head-head-review
http://www.t3.com/features/samsung-galaxy-s3-vs-htc-one-x/HTC-One-X-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S3-Part-3
Really bored now
I personally like both but neither get me sexually excited but as I said different strokes
The one x is just a laggy Quadcore HTC Sense only htc can make them soon laggggy
Running PARANOID ANDROID RC2 and it doesn't lag at all.
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Running Stock and no lag. Must be User Error.
Same here, stock and no lag
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Not that it matters, but I've already read at least 10 comparisons with the final result being in favour of the HTC one X.
so 'finally' is a bit redundant
you people are crazy, the OP is an SGS3 fan and he thinks we are supposed to be fooled by the stupid thread title
no its not one, the One X was actually favored by over than 50% of the online media, although this is not the first time Engadget said this
in their SGS3 review they talked more about the One X than the s3
i don't get it seriously people, do you suffer from a inferiority complex that force you to make such ridiculous posts in the One X forum?
The One X beats the SGS 3 in everything except the GPU and Battery, there is nothing more to say here!
have we not had enough of these threads already
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Just dont know why always this f****g reviews or comparisons start with: " Android rivals for Apple's iPhone "
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Guys, it was the HTC One XL that won the comparison. Snapdragon S4 is awesome with excellent performance, great battery life and LTE.
The international tegra3 OneX didn't win anything. Unfortunately, It's a terrible chip set with low performance, low battery life, causes "overheat" battery status frequently, runs on an old Linux kernel, and slows to a crawl when you fill up the storage.
Comparing the American hoxl with the American sgs3: they have the same hardware except the sgs3 has double the ram, which means that it doesn't have the multitasking problems of the hoxl.
However, if you ignore the poor multitasking, the software on the HTC side is imo better than touchwiz when it comes to look and feel - which was one of engadgets reasons for preferring it. They praised the inclusion of a multitasking button instead of a menu button which is funny because all of the custom roms have remapped the buttons!, so they must really enjoy seeing the 3 dot button wasting screen space everwhere
At the end of the day, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Software wise, I'm looking forward to a stable CM10 on my gs3. So for me only hardware matters.
so really what should we do in here?
we need a mod that can really take action
this is getting ridiculous
Plain ridiculous....
If it is so terrible, why google put it into nexus then and not exynos?
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hamdir said:
so really what should we do in here?
we need a mod that can really take action
this is getting ridiculous
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get the strawberries and cream out and have a picnic i think!!!!!:silly:
OP has got nought better to do than masturbate furiously and cry to him self in the corner lol!!!!
I'm getting sick of people defending and fighting for their brand. where ever we go we can see a Apple vs. Android, Samsung vs. i-phone, HOX vs, SGS3 cat fight. It's just a smart phone for god sake. It's not like your serving your dark master...
I thought the original post smelt more fishy than Margaret Thatcher's secret garden!!!!:silly:
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I'm bored at work so will continue to fill useless threads like this with senseless bull**** until the mods close it. Freeze dried macaque monkey anyone????
jonathanyong said:
Guys, it was the HTC One XL that won the comparison. Snapdragon S4 is awesome with excellent performance, great battery life and LTE.
The international tegra3 OneX didn't win anything. Unfortunately, It's a terrible chip set with low performance, low battery life, causes "overheat" battery status frequently, runs on an old Linux kernel, and slows to a crawl when you fill up the storage.
Comparing the American hoxl with the American sgs3: they have the same hardware except the sgs3 has double the ram, which means that it doesn't have the multitasking problems of the hoxl.
However, if you ignore the poor multitasking, the software on the HTC side is imo better than touchwiz when it comes to look and feel - which was one of engadgets reasons for preferring it. They praised the inclusion of a multitasking button instead of a menu button which is funny because all of the custom roms have remapped the buttons!, so they must really enjoy seeing the 3 dot button wasting screen space everwhere
At the end of the day, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Software wise, I'm looking forward to a stable CM10 on my gs3. So for me only hardware matters.
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If u think that makers of GTX 680 (Nvidia) can be crushed so easily then u r wrong..
U have a pentile display which has ink marks n black clipping n color banding issues..We HOX owners don't even piss on such displays coz the color of it is also appear grey on it. .
The first thing u look at n keep looking at the whole time is the screen n when its that ****ty then nobody gives a damn..
The S3 is officially the ugliest looking phone ever. N this is supported by Android Police,Engadget etc..
The support of tegra 3 is gonna be way Better coz its on so many devices now including Nexus 7. . N with Microsoft surface also coming out with tegra 3 we might e able to port windows 8 to HOX. .
Nobody gives a damn to exynos. .
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I looked at a SGS3 display vs the HOX and whilst the HOX display is sharper, brighter and has better colors, the SGS3 display is pretty good, you hardly notice it's pentile unless you go looking for it. The color banding is not a display issue but a software choice made by Samsung to increase sharpness, it is called mdnie and the SGS2 at least had many different profiles (for different apps/lighting situation), so there never would be banding in the galery
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I looked at a SGS3 display vs the HOX and whilst the HOX display is sharper, brighter and has better colors, the SGS3 display is pretty good, you hardly notice it's pentile unless you go looking for it. The color banding is not a display issue but a software choice made by Samsung to increase sharpness, it is called mdnie and the SGS2 at least had many different profiles (for different apps/lighting situation), so there never would be banding in the galery
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Apparently its not a software issue..in the pentile arrangement the sub pixels are shared between pixels..Supercurio is a developer here n he tried to fix this issue for months on Galaxy Note but couldn't even improve it. Let alone fixing it n ultimately he gave up n the thread was closed. .
N u r comparing it to S2 !!!!!!!!... s2 has an RGB display n is way better than Note n s3 crap. .
N s2 is the best phone from Samsung's stable til now ..
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