LG Nitro HD Owners, Please Help! Do you love your phone? Upgrading - need input - LG Nitro HD

So guys, simple as that. I'm upgrading soon. I am wondering if any of you would have chosen a different phone, now that you have owned the Nitro HD for quite some time. If so, what phone? I'm on AT&T btw. Some people say the A2 is nice. I'm stuck deciding. Also, does anyone know when AT&T will be releasing more phones?? Tegra 3 maybe? Also, if any AT&T insiders are about, any recollection as to when they will be dropping prices again? Thanks for all input everyone!

carpenterethan said:
So guys, simple as that. I'm upgrading soon. I am wondering if any of you would have chosen a different phone, now that you have owned the Nitro HD for quite some time. If so, what phone? I'm on AT&T btw. Some people say the A2 is nice. I'm stuck deciding. Also, does anyone know when AT&T will be releasing more phones?? Tegra 3 maybe? Also, if any AT&T insiders are about, any recolection as to when they will be dropping prices again? Thanks for all imput everyone!
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yes! this phone does the job...CM9, all i have to say!

I love the screen on this phone. The camera is good, processor is fast and CM9 nightlies are rolling out. My only complaint is the battery life could be better, especially with heavy use.
Goto BestBuy. The phone is only $50 right now and you get a FREE pair of LG Tone bluetooth headphones. It is a SWEET deal. Good luck deciding!

It will be amazing with a stable cm9. But maybe wait for the HTC One X.
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FistPie said:
I love the screen on this phone. The camera is good, processor is fast and CM9 nightlies are rolling out. My only complaint is the battery life could be better, especially with heavy use.
Goto BestBuy. The phone is only $50 right now and you get a FREE pair of LG Tone bluetooth headphones. It is a SWEET deal. Good luck deciding!
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haha, i took advantage of that deal!

Hoorah! Thanks for the heads up on the BB deal! I was going to call them, haven't had time. Sounds prettttttyyyyy tempting! HTC One X, you say? *GSMOOGLES*- DROOL 1.5ghz quad core??? Why does everything get topped in a matter of months!!! Good for people who can afford the status quo. :'( I want one now... my dreams will be haunted until I own a quad core phone now. :/ I just shelled $235.00 on an Acer A500 and I love it.... but i'll be darned if quad cores aren't about to $### on all of my current devices *FacePalm* /rant
Haha. XDA is such a loyal community.... love every moment on here.
'HTC One X Release date leak'
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FistPie said:
Goto BestBuy. The phone is only $50 right now and you get a FREE pair of LG Tone bluetooth headphones. It is a SWEET deal. Good luck deciding!
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I'm guessing with a cell contract!?
If just the phone I'll drive to Buffalo tonight lol
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Flyview said:
I'm guessing with a cell contract!?
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Ohhhhyeah! This isn't metro pcs my friend ^_^
These guys have me drooling over the HTC One X now..............
Release date_ http://www.androidcentral.com/att-htc-one-x-release-date-moved-may-6-best-buy-tells-customer-e-mail _

Yes, I love my LG Nitro, But only because I flashed different ROMs into it. ( Currently Nightly #3 of CyanogenMod9)
When I had it with the stock ROM, I was having missed thoughts about it due to some lag, and bloatware, manly unused programs like Zanga Poker and some At&t software.
Thank God for XDADevelopers

Welcome friend!
Raymen864 said:
Yes, I love my LG Nitro, But only because I flashed different ROMs into it. ( Currently Nightly #3 of CyanogenMod9)
When I had it with the stock ROM, I was having missed thoughts about it due to some lag, and bloatware, manly unused programs like Zanga Poker and some At&t software.
Thank God for XDADevelopers
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On behalf of our friends here at XDA, Welcome aboard! Looks like you have found your way around!

carpenterethan said:
Hoorah! Thanks for the heads up on the BB deal! I was going to call them, haven't had time. Sounds prettttttyyyyy tempting! HTC One X, you say? *GSMOOGLES*- DROOL 1.5ghz quad core??? Why does everything get topped in a matter of months!!! Good for people who can afford the status quo. :'( I want one now... my dreams will be haunted until I own a quad core phone now. :/ I just shelled $235.00 on an Acer A500 and I love it.... but i'll be darned if quad cores aren't about to $### on all of my current devices *FacePalm* /rant
Haha. XDA is such a loyal community.... love every moment on here.
'HTC One X Release date leak'
*** http://www.androidcentral.com/att-htc-one-x-release-date-moved-may-6-best-buy-tells-customer-e-mail ***
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Something to keep in mind about the One X is that there will be 2 different versions of it. Europe gets the Tegra 3 quad core but no LTE. In the US, the AT&T One X will have LTE but will be using a Qualcomm S4 dual core instead.

I just recently upgraded after weeks of debate and I have to say i am very happy and this is with the stock rom a couple quirks here Nd there but no show stoppers I'm very satisfied and I will be even more once we get ICS officially

gmkelly001 said:
Something to keep in mind about the One X is that there will be 2 different versions of it. Europe gets the Tegra 3 quad core but no LTE. In the US, the AT&T One X will have LTE but will be using a Qualcomm S4 dual core instead.
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So if I am wanting to get the HTC one X on my upgrade when the time comes, i'm still looking @ a dual-core phone? LAME! AT&T always finds some way to take the fun out of things! I don't need LTE I need QUAD CORE PROCESSING POWER WITH A 12 CORE GPU :O
AT&FAIL
Looks like I might go with the Nitro after all... virturally same specs... just an ugly bulky phone. (In some peoples' opinion.)
Does AT&T usually drop prices on que with new phone releases? I looked online for the BB deal for $50 w a bluetooth headset and just got the $99.99 to show... maybe it has to be in store for the promo.
Would be nice if an AT&T rogue dropped by with some pretty enlightening information regarding release dates and prices here's to wishful thinking!

i think you would be much happier with a white iphone 4

scott0 said:
i think you would be much happier with a white iphone 4
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http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_4-3275.php Or if you want to make it (still un)fair... http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Apple-iPhone-4S_id5257 VS http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nitro_hd-4329.php
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Thanks for the offer though, Scott. Why do you prefer the Iphone? Do you realize Apple manufactures these things to brick if they know you jailbroke them? Let alone shattered glass on front and back if you drop it on anything other than a pillow. :/
I prefer android because they have an open developer community, as well as more durable phones for the most part, if you're going to chunk your phone b/c ur mate pissed you off and you don't have a case on it, you are on your own there. For most of us though, our phones will only suffer a drop from pocket or head height. Aprox 6 ft drop. Take this food for thought >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKJp9EMRjXY <<< drop test between the Galasy S2 and Iphone 4

With cm9 this phone is prolly better than any phone at the market right now, even at&t's htc one x wont be much better than the nitro..
Only downside is the battery, i'm carrying 2 extra batterys to survive 24hrs away from the power plug, but thats because i use it a lot, when its idling it doesnt use that much(like 8/10% on 8hours sleep)

Ritcher said:
With cm9 this phone is prolly better than any phone at the market right now, even at&t's htc one x wont be much better than the nitro..
Only downside is the battery, i'm carrying 2 extra batterys to survive 24hrs away from the power plug, but thats because i use it a lot, when its idling it doesnt use that much(like 8/10% on 8hours sleep)
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Do you use juice defender or a screen filter for less power consumption? These two things usually increase my battery life on X device almost twice the normal runtime.

I had the p930 for a while now and i bricked it once took it back to Bell and they fixed it free of charged but I had to survive using a first generation palm pre.....for a week
and now I scared of rooting it again and flashing rom..

VinceIk said:
I had the p930 for a while now and i bricked it once took it back to Bell and they fixed it free of charged but I had to survive using a first generation palm pre.....for a week
and now I scared of rooting it again and flashing rom..
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How exactly did you manage to brick your phone sir? Usually it's due to impatience and pulling the battery/usb cord. I've done this before w my cappy. Luckily they are virturally unbrickable... with a jig.

wasnt impatience
thats what I did
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23076608&postcount=306

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HTC Rezound Now, or Quad-core HTC Edge Later?

HTC Rezound Now, or Quad-core HTC Edge Later?
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Alleged images of the HTC Edge, rumored to be the world's first quad-core smartphone when it launches in early 2012, have surfaced via Pocket Now.
As far as smartphones go, this one is at the top of the food chain. It packs a quad-core, 1.5-GHz Nvidia Tegra 3 CPU, 4.7-inch display with 720p resolution, an 8-megapixel camera with F/2.2 lens, 1GB of RAM, Beats Audio headphones, and the HTC Sense interface. In other words, it's twice as powerful as the HTC Rezound launched last week, which hits Verizon on November 14 for $300.
Strangely, 4G LTE support was not mentioned; instead the Edge is supposed to support 21Mbps HSPA+ (AT&T's old 4G technology).
In February, Nvidia announced Kal-El, the first quad-core mobile processor, and it first hit the market in October via the Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime. For more, my colleague Michael Miller "dissected" Kal-El and its "secret fifth core."
Last week, Verizon Wireless and HTC announced the HTC Rezound, HTC's first Beats Audio-paired smartphone. It's a 4G LTE device featuring a 4.3-inch 720p HD display, 1.5-GHz dual-core processor, 32GB of storage, 1GB of RAM, and the latest version of HTC Sense. It also sports an 8-megapixel camera and records video in 1080p. For more, see PCMag's Hands On With the HTC Rezound and slideshow below.
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Dang. All that stood out to me was 4.7-inch display. That is huge!
I might wait for this phone. I love my incredible still and putting a different ROM on it every week makes it feel like a new phone. Might hold out for this phone if it is on Verizon's network.
It didn't look like a verizon phone to me, plus I'd rather have a S4 processor than Tegra3
If it said HSPA+ then it's not coming to Verizon.
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I think it'll have a cdma counterpart that comes to VZW. Hopefully 4G LTE will be included.
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4.3 is too big
4.7 is ridiculous. I hope people don't buy these phones so manufactures can start making them portable again.
They say Q1 or Q2, but they're known to have delays on big phones like this so it may be Q3 or Q4, or later. I wouldn't wait for this one if I was you.
Doesn't matter how many cores it has. HTC will find new and exciting ways to make the superphone choppy and laggy through bloat and inefficient software design.
I guess there is a difference if you plan on putting AOSP on it though.
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Div033 said:
Doesn't matter how many cores it has. HTC will find new and exciting ways to make the superphone choppy and laggy through bloat and inefficient software design.
I guess there is a difference if you plan on putting AOSP on it though.
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Huh, weird. Because Sense 3.5 runs perfectly fine on my phone, as good as AOSP, with obviously a few exceptions because of how old this Incredible hardware is, and since there's still a few little bugs in the rom.
Anyways, all these ICS phones are gonna be awesome, and it's awesome that this one still has capacitive buttons, so far. Battery life on it should be awesome though, except the rumor that it's 4.7 inches, that's basically close to the really small tablet area. But if it truly does come with 720p resolution, hopefully the rom from it will get ported to the Rezound
At what point will these quad core behemoth's start needing cooling fans.
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username235 said:
Huh, weird. Because Sense 3.5 runs perfectly fine on my phone, as good as AOSP, with obviously a few exceptions because of how old this Incredible hardware is, and since there's still a few little bugs in the rom.
Anyways, all these ICS phones are gonna be awesome, and it's awesome that this one still has capacitive buttons, so far. Battery life on it should be awesome though, except the rumor that it's 4.7 inches, that's basically close to the really small tablet area. But if it truly does come with 720p resolution, hopefully the rom from it will get ported to the Rezound
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The only way I've gotten sense 3.5 to work well on my phone is with the "2D hack" that the rcmix team figured out to make the sense widgets not have 30 different objects to render at once (calendar comes to mind). Even then, there's the dreaded pull down notification lag which is even present on the Amaze 4G, but amplified on our older hardware. Not to mention that despite all this it STILL takes 3-4 seconds to launch common apps like DIALER as opposed to the nearly instantaneous AOSP.
They have good UI designers but terrible programmers.
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username235 said:
Battery life on it should be awesome though, except the rumor that it's 4.7 inches, that's basically close to the really small tablet area.
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If this phone has everything the article says it'll have then I don't see how the battery life will be awesome, sounds like it'll be worse than the t-bolt
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N-Forced said:
If this phone has everything the article says it'll have then I don't see how the battery life will be awesome, sounds like it'll be worse than the t-bolt
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Quad-core. They should save battery, though nobody's entirely sure with phones. The first quad core tablet, the Asus Transformer Prime that's coming out, has a battery life of 12 hours while using it...plus I think like 16 or 18 with the keyboard dock. I'm not sure what size battery it has, but that's nice. And I'm pretty sure it has to do with the quad core
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First, I doubt that's a phone that's coming in 2012... ICS does NOT support capacitive buttons and any Android phone that releases in 2012 without ICS is going to languish.
Second, it's certainly not coming to Verizon with HSPA+. There are plenty of great phones that come out on other carriers that never make it to Verizon.
A note about the Tegra 3... The reason it's going to have such amazing battery life is because there is actually a fifth core, called a companion core, that it switches to when the phone isn't doing anything. Cool technology...
As an aside, when is a screen too big?
My quad core dell xps has terrible battery, but i have it set to max performance with the 2 gig nvidia card in it. Only lasts 1.5 hours.
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jtcarnes said:
First, I doubt that's a phone that's coming in 2012... ICS does NOT support capacitive buttons and any Android phone that releases in 2012 without ICS is going to languish.
Second, it's certainly not coming to Verizon with HSPA+. There are plenty of great phones that come out on other carriers that never make it to Verizon.
A note about the Tegra 3... The reason it's going to have such amazing battery life is because there is actually a fifth core, called a companion core, that it switches to when the phone isn't doing anything. Cool technology...
As an aside, when is a screen too big?
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Really? Cause the nexus s port of ics uses the capacitive touch buttons...all HTC has to do is write the code to make it work...that's too easy to be a reason it won't get ics..
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First, I doubt that's a phone that's coming in 2012... ICS does NOT support capacitive buttons and any Android phone that releases in 2012 without ICS is going to languish.
Second, it's certainly not coming to Verizon with HSPA+. There are plenty of great phones that come out on other carriers that never make it to Verizon.
A note about the Tegra 3... The reason it's going to have such amazing battery life is because there is actually a fifth core, called a companion core, that it switches to when the phone isn't doing anything. Cool technology...
As an aside, when is a screen too big?
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Yeah, ICS most definitely DOES support capacitive buttons, because otherwise, that'd be a total fail in Android by doing that, considering all the phones that are potentially getting upgraded. It's just common sense. And yep, I've read plenty about the companion core. Finally, a screen is too big to me when I can't comfortably hold, and operate it at the same time with one hand, a nearly 5 inch screen is not comfortable. Might as well get a small tablet if you want that kind of screen size. That on a cell phone is ridiculous. 4.3 is the highest I'll go.

Former galaxy s 2 owners, please read.

I just bought a sgs2 and decided to take out back within the 14 day period to get my money back and sit and wait for the Nexus to come to t-mobile in the states.
Now that's my plan. I have the sgs2 boxed up in my cart waiting till i get off work to take it back. Galaxy Nexus owners, am i making the right decision? If you have owned a Galaxy S 2 and ditched it for a Galaxy Nexus i want to hear you're thoughts on it. Thank you very much.
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ksnexusone said:
I just bought a sgs2 and decided to take out back within the 14 day period to get my money back and sit and wait for the Nexus to come to t-mobile in the states.
Now that's my plan. I have the sgs2 boxed up in my cart waiting till i get off work to take it back. Galaxy Nexus owners, am i making the right decision? If you have owned a Galaxy S 2 and ditched it for a Galaxy Nexus i want to hear you're thoughts on it. Thank you very much.
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You don't have the 'true' galaxy S II. You have what many people consider the handicapped version with the Snapdragon chipset.
Take it back and get the Nexus. You'll be happy you did.
crazy talk said:
You don't have the 'true' galaxy S II. You have what many people consider the handicapped version with the Snapdragon chipset.
Take it back and get the Nexus. You'll be happy you did.
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The Sprint version is pretty good, that's what I have now. Bigger screen, faster CPU, definitely better than the other variants I think.
So you guys think the t-mobile version is handicapped even though it has a 1.5gb dual core chip set?
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ksnexusone said:
So you guys think the t-mobile version is handicapped even though it has a 1.5gb dual core chip set?
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The snapdragon chipset is slower than the Exynos/OMAP in all situations despite its higher clock speed.
Check some reviews on anandtech....
I have the GS II, and so far happy with it, is what we have now with Tmo. Would I want the Nexus? Maybe but do I want to wait how long? 60 or 90 days? no. As for the Hercules been handicapped? I don’t see any evidence of this: it has a faster processor and the screen is just beautiful, this phone is a Beast!! And the Nexus looks like something very different this time…
'nuff said
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I just checked the nexus out (in manchester,uk). after playing with it for 15mins, cant really say its much of an upgrade on the sgs2 - especially once that gets ics
the sales guy really didnt know much about it other than it 'having the new android'. i knew more than him after playing with it (before all i knew was ics and curved screen)
I still have my brand new galaxy S 2 in the box all packed back up. I was 100% planning on taking it back to the tmo store. but now im wondering after the galaxy S 2 gets ice cream sandwich, then how do they compare to each other?
just the hardware side by side.
1.2 dual core vs 1.5 dual core?
4.65 vs 4.5 in screen.
5mp/1.3mp vs 8mp/2mp (back/front cameras).
come on galaxy nexus users. tell me what you think of this matchup. it is soo hard for me to make up my mind. if only i knew any idea timeframe of when tmo is gonna get the galaxy nexus/prime....hehe
ksnexusone said:
I still have my brand new galaxy S 2 in the box all packed back up. I was 100% planning on taking it back to the tmo store. but now im wondering after the galaxy S 2 gets ice cream sandwich, then how do they compare to each other?
just the hardware side by side.
1.2 dual core vs 1.5 dual core?
4.65 vs 4.5 in screen.
5mp/1.3mp vs 8mp/2mp (back/front cameras).
come on galaxy nexus users. tell me what you think of this matchup. it is soo hard for me to make up my mind. if only i knew any idea timeframe of when tmo is gonna get the galaxy nexus/prime....hehe
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Maybe you should check out the T-MO GS2 forums. A stock Hercules is not as fast as the 'real' Galaxy S2, but a big part of the problem isn't so much that the CPU is slower, but rather Samsung didn't optimized their TouchWiz stuff for that chipset so there is significant lag when using the UI. If you plan to root and rom, however, just browsing the T-Mo GS2 Dev forum here reveals that there are apparently a handful of roms for it that appear to be really really fast, so if you are going to root the phone it might end up being a beast for you.
Personally I'm pretty torn right now. I'm on Verizon and could just wait for the Nexus, but it has its flaws like any other phone and I'm tempted to pay almost 60 bucks a month less on a T-Mobile value plan vs. my VZW unlimited plan. If I did go that route I could import a Nexus, or the T-Mo GS2 is definitely an option b/c of the dev community. I also played with the Rezound a bit tonight and I think if that phone gets root/S-off it will be an absolute beast (already really nice stock)....so yeah I dunno what to tell you.
Brendo said:
the sales guy really didnt know much about it other than it 'having the new android'. i knew more than him after playing with it (before all i knew was ics and curved screen)
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most shop staff seem to be completely clueless about the phone. Seems that Phones4u, O2, Carphone Warehouse, and 3-UK retail shops have given their staff absolutely no training or supplemental material for this phone.
they should give me a job, I know more about the handsets than they do! woman in the O2 shop said that my giffgaff SIM card would not work on a SIM-locked handset, even after I informed her that giffgaff is a wholly owned subsidiary of O2 and runs on the O2 network
ksnexusone said:
I still have my brand new galaxy S 2 in the box all packed back up. I was 100% planning on taking it back to the tmo store. but now im wondering after the galaxy S 2 gets ice cream sandwich, then how do they compare to each other?
just the hardware side by side.
1.2 dual core vs 1.5 dual core?
4.65 vs 4.5 in screen.
5mp/1.3mp vs 8mp/2mp (back/front cameras).
come on galaxy nexus users. tell me what you think of this matchup. it is soo hard for me to make up my mind. if only i knew any idea timeframe of when tmo is gonna get the galaxy nexus/prime....hehe
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Has the 4.5 screen of sgs 2 the same resolution or just 800x480?
You will have a screwed up version of Android as well.
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oscillik said:
most shop staff seem to be completely clueless about the phone. Seems that Phones4u, O2, Carphone Warehouse, and 3-UK retail shops have given their staff absolutely no training or supplemental material for this phone.
they should give me a job, I know more about the handsets than they do! woman in the O2 shop said that my giffgaff SIM card would not work on a SIM-locked handset, even after I informed her that giffgaff is a wholly owned subsidiary of O2 and runs on the O2 network
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When I bought my Nexus S the salesman asked me if I would like to buy a SD card for it...
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Nebucatnetzer said:
When I bought my Nexus S the salesman asked me if I would like to buy a SD card for it...
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you should've enquired about buying navicore or tomtom
i cannot speak on when tmo-us will get the nexus. could be anytime this year or next year. if you return the gs2 what will be your fall back phone until the nexus? also do not let the processor speed on the tmo gs2 deceive you. it is still slower than the exynos/omap. snapdragon is slower. i've had the the global gs2 and the tmo gs2 and there is glaring difference in speed to me. your decision depends on your tolerance to wait. Also keep in mind that being that the tmo gs2 uses a different chipset and (most likely) will not get ics as quickly as the global gs2 (opinion). i'm biting the bullet selling my tmo-gs2 and going to verizon dec 8th.
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This just proves that benchmarks are completely inaccurate. The snapdragon chipset are the weakest chipset out of Exynos, OMAP and snapdragon. Nothing can hold a candle next to Samsung's Exynos chipset, with of course the exception of the few quad-core that are out. But if/when Samsung makes a quad-core Exynos, it's over with. They will make other quad-cores look like dual-cores. Samsung's build quality is very questionable but their hardware is a couple of steps ahead of all other OEM's.
Meh
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Sadly, no. The MIUI phone has been heavily optimized. And one benchmark is hardly enough to prove anything.
Actually that benchmark is the only one I've seen where the Snapdragon S3's were not completely crushed by Exynos/OMAP. The only weaker chipset is the original Tegra2 which lacks NEON.
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You do realize that this Benchmark is made by Qualcomm?!
Of course their chipsets perform well in their own benchmarks
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I'd like to see what the score would be with the the OG SGS II overclocked to 1.6

sold my SGS3 keeping my HTC ONE X

I thought I get myself this stellar phone heard so much good reviews about it.
originally had HTC ONE X unlocked worked flawless.
The moment I opened the SGS3 held it in my hand for a few minutes booted it up played around with it OH DEAR!!
it felt like a toy!
I was hugely disappointed and didn't want to bring it back to the shop where I got it from due to the fact I was "bigging it up" I rang my friend who has a galaxy nexus He bought it off me for 20 pounds cheaper. and I am back to my HTC ONE X it absolutely slaughters the SGS3 in looks and feel and oh that touch wiz is utterly disgusting I hated it on my SGS2 which I had for a few months but gave it away to my niece.
To add insult to injury My freind also kept his HTC ONE X and Put the SGS3 on ebay not sure if I can post the listing on here . so any one who has a new home for the SGS3 maybe those with children it would make a good toy
So I apologise to the ONE X member that i jumped ship. beleive me the HTC one X is better than SGS3 in all departments
and btw NVidia has some news about Tegra 3 new driver keep your ears pealed
I'm in the same boat had my HOX first and got 2 SGS3s that I will be returning to Amazon. 1st device has yellow tint, second device has the blue tint at angles. This is typical of AMOLED screens.
I love the sgs3 but love my hox just as much. The Samsung had the better battery life but other than that I prefer the hox for its better screen, and looks and design. HOX also to me had the edge on the camera and the camera software is better.
Both phones are excellent but I'm just in love with the hox and it'll only get better.
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It has a much better battery life - on my HOX anyway.
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It has a much better battery life - on my HOX anyway.
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Yep. Gave my sgs3 upgrade to one of my employees. Samsung fanboys are delirious if they think that screen is better than hox. I used to love samoled until I powered up the HTC.
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What is your experience with it?
ikeabuchi said:
I thought I get myself this stellar phone heard so much good reviews about it.
originally had HTC ONE X unlocked worked flawless.
The moment I opened the SGS3 held it in my hand for a few minutes booted it up played around with it OH DEAR!!
it felt like a toy!
I was hugely disappointed and didn't want to bring it back to the shop where I got it from due to the fact I was "bigging it up" I rang my friend who has a galaxy nexus He bought it off me for 20 pounds cheaper. and I am back to my HTC ONE X it absolutely slaughters the SGS3 in looks and feel and oh that touch wiz is utterly disgusting I hated it on my SGS2 which I had for a few months but gave it away to my niece.
To add insult to injury My freind also kept his HTC ONE X and Put the SGS3 on ebay not sure if I can post the listing on here . so any one who has a new home for the SGS3 maybe those with children it would make a good toy
So I apologise to the ONE X member that i jumped ship. beleive me the HTC one X is better than SGS3 in all departments
and btw NVidia has some news about Tegra 3 new driver keep your ears pealed
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What really captured my eyes is the last part, care to link or enlighten me a little bit about nvidia and new tegra 3 drivers?? thank you!
The HTC ONE X screen is a beauty to behold stunning is a misused superlative but that description fits perfectly for the screen. I just don't understand if this was supposed to be the flagship for Samsung why did they make it feel like a light kinder surprise toy?
Guess I was drawn in by the hype.
What I did notice was the standby power consumption basically it was diabolic!
I will find the link about tegra+ using a slightly over clocked core. and compatible gpu class driver.
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The HTC ONE X screen is a beauty to behold stunning is a misused superlative but that description fits perfectly for the screen. I just don't understand if this was supposed to be the flagship for Samsung why did they make it feel like a light kinder surprise toy?
Guess I was drawn in by the hype.
What I did notice was the standby power consumption basically it was diabolic!
I will find the link about tegra+ using a slightly over clocked core. and compatible gpu class driver.
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Haha! Hope i'm not getting excited over nothing special, but that would be no problem whatsoever
edit: i just noticed you said tegra+, so that means it won't apply to the one x
i dint find any suitable thread and that y asking here. will it be wise enough to buy a second hand HOX from UK. and can anyone tell me what would be the price of a Second-hand HOX in UK. i am gonna go to UK and buy one.
Pentile Screen, ugly appearance, no sense...This is why I won't buy SGS3.
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i dint find any suitable thread and that y asking here. will it be wise enough to buy a second hand HOX from UK. and can anyone tell me what would be the price of a Second-hand HOX in UK. i am gonna go to UK and buy one.
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In the region of £300-£330. I've seen some go for under £300!
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edit: i just noticed you said tegra+, so that means it won't apply to the one x
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Tegra+ will be tegra 3 (old one) with LTE support. so GPU drivers and 4-PLUS-1 core will be compatible with HOX tegra.
So how do we flash the new radio and anyone got a link.
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So how do we flash the new radio and anyone got a link.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689679
[RADIO]Endeavor Shipped RADIO Collection
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My story is simple i watched Galaxy S3 world premiere and in couple of days i bought One X just like that i really had high hopes S3 would be made out of magnesium or steel or something really solid but no its made even worse then One X as it proves in this topic. The looks is important too, quad core device should look like an awesome device with machine guns and lasers and stuff not like a soap for girls "designed for humans" hhahaha
@Raider0001: Agreed with you, but i got ocasion to hold it and play with it. Its really good phone, but design is fsc*ked up ...
@POOOLSKAAAA BIAŁO CZERWONI!
hold your horses what's that about tegra and new drivers?
I don't know, i just explained what tegra3+ is
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Tegra+ will be tegra 3 (old one) with LTE support. so GPU drivers and 4-PLUS-1 core will be compatible with HOX tegra.
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[Opinion] Change OneX by Note2, what do you think?

Hello,
I want opinions to help me decide, is not a topic to fight.
I would like the opinion of the staff, I am very sad with my one X, Tegra slow in new games of big producer, low battery life without the possibility of change (forget battery covers), I'm thinking of selling it more add about 150 to 200 dollars and get the galaxy note 2 . I like the large screen, the games are running well and it has great advantages. Like 2 gigs of ram, screen control by looking among other things that everybody knows.
I would like the opinion of you. I would be buying the new phone selling my Onex, I will not buy it all, would you do it?
If I could afford it... Yeah.. But then again I would have to buy a little phone to use as "phone" to have with me with work etc.. Because I think I would get tired of carrying the monster as soon as I want to quick send a text with one hand... I already feel bad in my hand after some one hand texting with my one x :s
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I wouldn't buy anything larger than a one x, im fed up with Android producers, fighting who produces a larger phone :/, anyways i find it a great choice to replace tablets. If you are comfortable with the size then its a good option.
Note 2 is am excellent piece of kit. The battery is on another level. The S-Pen is a joy to use and once you go big you can't go back to a smaller device.
Also consider the Nexus 4 but too early to tell if battery will last as long.
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I really want to see the J butterfly or DNA in the flesh. I wanna see how that form factor is, because its definitely better than the gargantuan note ii. Its a shame its only US and Japan for now.
And I'm not selling my One X for at least another year.
No other 5" device will be unique as the Note simply due to the S-Pen which sets it apart from just a normal 5" phone.
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But I hate touchwiz, and I'm sure I won't use the stylus after a month or so hence HTC makes more sense . The only thing to <3 about the Note II is the INSANE battery life for me.
If you don't mind looking ridiculous whenever you sack you phone to answer a call, go for it...
Trust me, I had seen some, and always looks wrong to had a phone with this size.
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I bought a Note this year in february. I sold it in august because the following: crappy TW, Samsung's software update lies and delays,piece of sh*t samoled pentile display,overheat specially in the summer with only 2 cores. I will never buy Samsung phone ever again, and I don't want a big S3. I bought my One X in september. It was love in the first sight and this love is still exist after 2 months
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I wouldn't buy anything larger than a one x.
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I have a Note 10.1 and was thinking of getting a Note II when they were first released so I could share S-Note's between them. But with a tablet, I really don't need or want a phone as big as the Note II. I can carry my One X easily on a belt clip or slip it in to a pocket which is harder to do with anything larger. I also prefer Sense much more than TW from a productivity perspective. For someone who either doesn't have a tablet or doesn't want to carry it with them around town I could see a 5+" phone as a reasonable splitting of the difference. The Note 10.1 has a dialer so sometimes I'll foward calls and MMS from my One X to it so I only need to carry one device. There really isn't a right or wrong answer once you're past 4.7/4.8" which to me is the cut-off for something to be called a "phone."
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You mean like this?
I have one of these which can also be used with the Note II. It's a little (maybe not much) less rediculous.
Do not mind me going through ridiculous to other people answering the phone, I do not care who they think, I think it's cool to be big screen to access the internet and play, I do not really use the phone to talk, send more messages sms / gtalk / facebook to talk about. The screen from what I read the review of various site is great, much better than the Note1 and also the galaxy s3, the Onex is the best with your IPS, more than Note2 was great. I like the sense, but after almost three years using the same get sick, I'm not supporting the same. I find it slow. The S3's with my friend TW is much faster than my phone with Sense. Clearly when you place an animated wallpaper, the sense drags on, the TW in s3 stays the same.
I am extremely disappointed with the ONEX, the battery is unable to replace it with a larger, has no card slot and TEGRA is disappointing me in games. Okay that has beautiful games running on TEGRA (dead trigger), but they also run on Exynos. And still others run not run on TEGRA, and gameloft most wanted. And I'm sure that will not improve. It left me extremely frustrated, because it is a very expensive phone with a whole "bla bla bla" and suffer to run games that run on soft s2 s3 and even a friend of mine.
The only thing that holds me to Onex is the CM10, which is a spectacle, only the battery that is not with a good length. So I am wanting to use the opportunity that comes from a friend and bring a USA Note2 worth about $ 650, and seeing mine here for about 500-600 dollars and pay the difference.
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Do not mind me going through ridiculous to other people answering the phone, I do not care who they think, I think it's cool to be big screen to access the internet and play, I do not really use the phone to talk, send more messages sms / gtalk / facebook to talk about. The screen from what I read the review of various site is great, much better than the Note1 and also the galaxy s3, the Onex is the best with your IPS, more than Note2 was great. I like the sense, but after almost three years using the same get sick, I'm not supporting the same. I find it slow. The S3's with my friend TW is much faster than my phone with Sense. Clearly when you place an animated wallpaper, the sense drags on, the TW in s3 stays the same.
I am extremely disappointed with the ONEX, the battery is unable to replace it with a larger, has no card slot and TEGRA is disappointing me in games. Okay that has beautiful games running on TEGRA (dead trigger), but they also run on Exynos. And still others run not run on TEGRA, and gameloft most wanted. And I'm sure that will not improve. It left me extremely frustrated, because it is a very expensive phone with a whole "bla bla bla" and suffer to run games that run on soft s2 s3 and even a friend of mine.
The only thing that holds me to Onex is the CM10, which is a spectacle, only the battery that is not with a good length. So I am wanting to use the opportunity that comes from a friend and bring a USA Note2 worth about $ 650, and seeing mine here for about 500-600 dollars and pay the difference.
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Are you kidding me? You're saying about the lack of sd slot and unchangable battery. How come you bought it and get dissapointed with these thing? Don't you look on specs when you buy sometnhing that costs over 500 bucks?
And than, 4,7 is still ok to use it with one hand (ok, I have big hands, but I can't complain at all). With 5,5 it is problematical. Even if you dont call to much, you still have to use it in emergancy situations with one hand.
Although both note phones a really nice devices, I can't call them phones any more, they are phablets, smartlets but not phones.
Nevertheless my first choice in smartphones for next 4 month is nexus 4, it blows every phone away costing only 350 bucks. Its up to you, if you can afford it go on, but I just morally can't spend over 600, when some phone with same features plus with newest updates in next to years costs the half of it
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Zlotin said:
Are you kidding me? You're saying about the lack of sd slot and unchangable battery. How come you bought it and get dissapointed with these thing? Don't you look on specs when you buy sometnhing that costs over 500 bucks?
And than, 4,7 is still ok to use it with one hand (ok, I have big hands, but I can't complain at all). With 5,5 it is problematical. Even if you dont call to much, you still have to use it in emergancy situations with one hand.
Although both note phones a really nice devices, I can't call them phones any more, they are phablets, smartlets but not phones.
Nevertheless my first choice in smartphones for next 4 month is nexus 4, it blows every phone away costing only 350 bucks. Its up to you, if you can afford it go on, but I just morally can't spend over 600, when some phone with same features plus with newest updates in next to years costs the half of it
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My first option was the nexus 4, I found it wonderful, but it has two problems: 1. 16 gigas very little space. So music videos and photos I have almost 10 gigs, so do not serve. 2nd. The first battery of tests it turned out very badly, even worse than Onex. When I told another battery was to have the option to do this. Example, my sensation had a battery of 1580mha, put one of the mugen 1950mha using the same original back door, the phone was perfect, with an optimal duration of battery. In the case of Onex has no way to do anything, because I could have a mugen battery 2300mha without replacing the original back door. But this is not possible since the Onex has no way to replace the battery, that's what I meant.
I thought 1800mha to Onex would be great, but that is not what showed. I might have the solution of another battery but I have not. Not to mention the problems with the tegra 3 games.
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My first option was the nexus 4, I found it wonderful, but it has two problems: 1. 16 gigas very little space. So music videos and photos I have almost 10 gigs, so do not serve. 2nd. The first battery of tests it turned out very badly, even worse than Onex. When I told another battery was to have the option to do this. Example, my sensation had a battery of 1580mha, put one of the mugen 1950mha using the same original back door, the phone was perfect, with an optimal duration of battery. In the case of Onex has no way to do anything, because I could have a mugen battery 2300mha without replacing the original back door. But this is not possible since the Onex has no way to replace the battery, that's what I meant.
I thought 1800mha to Onex would be great, but that is not what showed. I might have the solution of another battery but I have not. Not to mention the problems with the tegra 3 games.
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The Nexus 4 will probably end up performing the same as the Galaxy s 3. Now while the nexus 4 is sealed, if you have followed the new closely, it shouldn't take much effort to have the battery exchange. So in this case i find it can still be changed.
Better than the One X it is.
Well, my personal opinion is that no samsung device deserves what it costs.
TW, material quality etc.
I won't say a thing about the size, though it is really bad for me but not for you.
I would actually go for a One S sized ONe X, if it existed.
Yes browsing can be better with big screens but, it will never ever be like a laptop experience, so no need to push the limits for something that will never replace the old habit.
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I want opinions to help me decide, is not a topic to fight.
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I am extremely disappointed with the ONEX, the battery is unable to replace it with a larger, has no card slot and TEGRA is disappointing me in games.
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So you're either Schizophrenic or already have decided to get a Note II and are picking the fight that you originally said you're not looking for. I'm out.
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So you're either Schizophrenic or already have decided to get a Note II and are picking the fight that you originally said you're not looking for. I'm out.
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I'm asking for opinions because it is an opportunity to buy cheap Note2 because in my country it costs $ 1100. And you have to agree with me that this price is surreal. I wanted to take my friend who is coming. I like ONEX, but he's disappointing me is sad to see my friend's S3 ending my Onex in several respects. Be the TW with its interesting features is the speed. I want other people's opinions, because I might as well give up and wait for the next generation, because someone can say, "look I know a guy who has the same Note2 and sucks this or that."
Now one thing that is undeniable is his lack of education. Instead of giving a constructive opinion insult me ​​saying I'm Schizophrenic. But from what I know of your culture, you do not have the same education. Sorry if your Republican candidate did not win and thank you for leaving.
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HTC M8 Prime coming out? What do you think?

HTC M8 Prime coming out? What do you think?
Would you be upset since you just purchased the M8?
Bla.. Sell this one buy the new one. Should companies stop making phone and adhere to some useless timelines like make a phone every year or 2 years etc. There is a new snapdragon 805 coming, new phones with QHD displays coming out soon. It will be foolish of HTC or any other company to wait till next year to release a phone with the new soc, screens etc.
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Qualcomm's Snapdragon 805 is going to be insane that's for sure. But if the rumors are true about the screen being 5.5 inch, I definitely don't want one. I'm drawing the line at a 5 inch screen, and I'm going to pray to every god I can think of that they don't decide to make the standard any bigger lol.
Technology moves fast if you wait around you would never buy anything.
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I'll wait and see what it's got before I pull the trigger , but if it's got the same looks and size with an updated camera I'll be buying it
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Technology moves fast if you wait around you would never buy anything.
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omg you said that spot on!
When is a phone not a phone.
When it becomes a phablet. I think their is a fine line to what you can hold sensibly like a phone. Even if you have huge mitts.
I have large hands and this is my limit, size wise for a daily driver. Being able to fit in my pocket etc.
But second devices are always good
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When is a phone not a phone.
When it becomes a phablet.
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People have been saying this since the original Galaxy Note came out. At the time, most industry commenters expected the Note to fail spectacularly, but it, and its successors, were a massive commercial success.
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Whilst I have an M8, it isn't my primary phone - that's a Galaxy Note 3. So, my M8 is my secondary device!
I don't care if people say it's "too big" because for my purposes I don't find that to be the case at all - and I don't have overly large hands and find the Note 3 perfectly pocketable.
The point is that we all have different needs and requirements.
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People have been saying this since the original Galaxy Note came out. At the time, most industry commenters expected the Note to fail spectacularly, but it, and its successors, were a massive commercial success.
Whilst I have an M8, it isn't my primary phone - that's a Galaxy Note 3. So, my M8 is my secondary device!
I don't care if people say it's "too big" because for my purposes I don't find that to be the case at all - and I don't have overly large hands and find the Note 3 perfectly pocketable.
The point is that we all have different needs and requirements.
Regards,
Dave
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Each to their own.... I just find it funny when I see people raise something the size of a small child to their ears
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Each to their own.... I just find it funny when I see people raise something the size of a small child to their ears
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I'd hazard a guess then that you're significantly younger than me!
My first hand portable phone was a Nokia Orange: http://www.mobilephonehistory.co.uk/nokia/nokia_2140.php
It was over double the size (volumetrically) than my Note 3, and, obviously, a far less capable device with a lot lower battery life. It was also one of the first GSM (digital) devices, and as such much smaller than most of the analogue phones you could get back then.
My point is that it didn't really seem silly or unusual to have such a large device back then.
Given how much more capable modern phones are, I don't have a problem with the size, because, for me, the benefits of the large screen massively outweigh any disadvantages (of which there are surprisingly few). I'd happily add a few mm and grams to the Note 3 (and my M8 for that matter) to get an even bigger battery, but I digress!
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I'd hazard a guess then that you're significantly younger than me!
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Ok.... It's give me a clue time.
I was born before the Beatles came to fame.
Quite a few years before Armstrong stood on the moon....
Our house phone looked like this
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and our neighbours used to come in and sit and watch with us...
Technology spent years trying to 'downsize' their products and now all of a sudden it wants big and brash again. Incidentally, are we heading back to here? (My first mobile)
I have no problems with the bigger products. Like I said, it's just when people hold them to their ears.
Incidentally you young whippersnapper...who wins the age argument
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P.S. Sorry for being Off topic OP - but it is kind of relevant
I dont think HTC will start selling a device just like their flagship but more powerful. They will aim an other market, and the 5.5 Inch rumor makes sense. I personally own the M8 and for my personal preferences thats the maximum size for a phone. There are people which are ok with their One MAX or Note 3. I just think this device will not be out to compete with the One M8
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Technology moves fast if you wait around you would never buy anything.
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This is my philosophy as well.
There are only a few circumstances where waiting pays off.
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I'd hazard a guess then that you're significantly younger than me!
My first hand portable phone was a Nokia Orange: http://www.mobilephonehistory.co.uk/nokia/nokia_2140.php
It was over double the size (volumetrically) than my Note 3, and, obviously, a far less capable device with a lot lower battery life. It was also one of the first GSM (digital) devices, and as such much smaller than most of the analogue phones you could get back then.
My point is that it didn't really seem silly or unusual to have such a large device back then.
Given how much more capable modern phones are, I don't have a problem with the size, because, for me, the benefits of the large screen massively outweigh any disadvantages (of which there are surprisingly few). I'd happily add a few mm and grams to the Note 3 (and my M8 for that matter) to get an even bigger battery, but I digress!
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Good point. Actually, at those days we used to make a call with the phone in our hands. Today I have a bt-headset and a pebble, which let me keep my phone in the pocket unless I need to google or read mails. Then, of course, size matters!
BTW, my jeans pockets are the same size than those of 1994, so what?
We will soon see that even Apple steps away from their masters voice, which claimed "nobody needs a phone bigger that an iPhone".
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Couldn't have said ti better myself. Ther'es always something newer and better on the horizon. Either go bankrupt buying them all or just be happy with what you got until you're ready to upgrade.
If u already have the m8, what's the point? Its not like these phones can get faster...
Just change transition speeds to .5x and your phone will be on crack...bam...faster!
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If u already have the m8, what's the point? Its not like these phones can get faster...
Just change transition speeds to .5x and your phone will be on crack...bam...faster!
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wait, you get fast when you are on crack? damn! i do the opposite.
you must be special. :good:
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If u already have the m8, what's the point? Its not like these phones can get faster...
Just change transition speeds to .5x and your phone will be on crack...bam...faster!
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the m8 is already on crack, the prime maybe on meth
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the m8 is already on crack, the prime maybe on meth
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Yeah, I underclocked and undervolted my CPU, constantly uses power saving mode, and my M8 still handles all the multitasking and games flawlessly.
The thing is, smartphones are significantly over-powered nowadays. In terms of usage, the jump from S801 to S805 or anything faster would be far less necessary in at least a year.
The prime would probably just have better specs. No point in it since I end up underclocking my CPU to 1.8GHz and only using 3 cores lol. Still don't see any lag.

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