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I tried to plug in my sixaxis controller and weird things happened.
1st an App came up Livewire I think saying a PS3 controller had been connected. It wanted me to set a.default.
2nd I got am error message saying the device requires too.much power.
What the heck? Is.there some way to hook up a sixaxis? I was using a USB otg cable
I thought a benefit of.this thing was PlayStation certification? And while we are on the subject where is the PlayStation mobile app?
Maybe you can do it via blue tooth somehow? I use a sixaxis on my tablet but never tried phone.
Ummm for playstation apps go to the themes and apps section they have a thread with the links
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Not sure about plugging it directly into the phone. I have used mine through the livedock from Sony. The ion dock should support it if you get that.
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Excuse me LiveDock? Whats that?
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wolf0491 said:
Maybe you can do it via blue tooth somehow? I use a sixaxis on my tablet but never tried phone.
Ummm for playstation apps go to the themes and apps section they have a thread with the links
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Found the Apps, thanks!
As for the Controller, I did try to plug directly in. No such luck. It worked on my Galaxy Note. I was hoping since this is a Playstation Phone, this would work directly. I may have to buy the dock. This is certainly not the only reason I got the phone but it was a selling point.
It seems my search for the "Perfect Phone" contiues. When I first jumped into Android it was for the Xperia Play. I thought the game controls would make it the best phone. Well, it had other shortcomings as we all know. Chiefly for me was the camera. No Zoom was a big one. I have since been through about 15 phone and tablet combinations including: Galaxy Tab, Note and Skyrocket. Sony Tablet S, Xperia X10 and X10 mini. Motorola Atrix, Xoom, Razr and Backflip, the Acer Iconia Tab, Both Dell Streaks and the Archos G9.
All I really want is something on which I can Game, that also has a good camera. I'm still holding out hope that the ION will fit that bill. Maybe a dock will help.
Dayuum that's a lot of silicone.
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killerskincanoe said:
Excuse me LiveDock? Whats that?
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Livedock Multimedia Station: http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/st...productId=8198552921666422681&tab=featuresTab
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Livedock Multimedia Station: http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/st...productId=8198552921666422681&tab=featuresTab
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Do you think another powered USB hub would work? That seems a little pricey.
im still confused about this LiveDock... is there software or something inside it? or is it NFC Or bluetooth.. their product page seemed incredibly vague other than stating that the possiblities are endless make your phone a mini pc by plugging in a keyboard... really? thats a joke right? couldn't i just use my bluetooth keyboard from my tablet if we ever get the upgrade to ICS. i don't see the benefits of this device
how do you use yours spectre?
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Do you think another powered USB hub would work? That seems a little pricey.
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Yes
killerskincanoe said:
im still confused about this LiveDock... is there software or something inside it? or is it NFC Or bluetooth.. their product page seemed incredibly vague other than stating that the possiblities are endless make your phone a mini pc by plugging in a keyboard... really? thats a joke right? couldn't i just use my bluetooth keyboard from my tablet if we ever get the upgrade to ICS. i don't see the benefits of this device
how do you use yours spectre?
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No software, NFC or Bluetooth. With a keyboard and mouse it practically is a mini PC. I have used my livedock with the PS3 remote plugged into it with my Xperia S to play Dead Trigger and Shadowgun on the HDTV through HDMI. Also have my mouse connected to play some big screen angry birds. Gonna do some testing for someone on te Sony forums with keyboards and mouse. You can also plug in a USB harddrive or thumb drive to get extra OTG storage.
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No software, NFC or Bluetooth. With a keyboard and mouse it practically is a mini PC. I have used my livedock with the PS3 remote plugged into it with my Xperia S to play Dead Trigger and Shadowgun on the HDTV through HDMI. Also have my mouse connected to play some big screen angry birds. Gonna do some testing for someone on te Sony forums with keyboards and mouse. You can also plug in a USB harddrive or thumb drive to get extra OTG storage.
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so the ps3 controller is plugged into the dock and so is the phone.. and this works with the ion too?
i just looked at more pics of the livedock as far as i could see it just had the one usb female in the back i'm guessing u plug ur charger into the back of the dock? and then that lil dongle goes to the phone? and then the reg USB port on the back is where u plug in the controller? or ur keyboard or mouse? how could u do both at once? would it run a usb hub?
killerskincanoe said:
so the ps3 controller is plugged into the dock and so is the phone.. and this works with the ion too?
i just looked at more pics of the livedock as far as i could see it just had the one usb female in the back i'm guessing u plug ur charger into the back of the dock? and then that lil dongle goes to the phone? and then the reg USB port on the back is where u plug in the controller? or ur keyboard or mouse? how could u do both at once? would it run a usb hub?
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Yes, yes, yes, bluetooth or hub, and yes....think I got them all, provided it's powered not sure on a non-powered one.
Ok, I've got the Smartdock for the Ion from AT&T today, and tried plugging in my charge cable, and a ps3 dualshock 3 via charge cable, and just get msg about device detected is using too much power, and that's it, nothing pops up, even the instructions aren't a help. The entire reason I got this thing is to use my ps3 controller on it via wire or wireless, and not any of the apps are working for controller gamepad support on games. Can any one simplify and explain what exactly I need to do with this thing?
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Ok, I've got the Smartdock for the Ion from AT&T today, and tried plugging in my charge cable, and a ps3 dualshock 3 via charge cable, and just get msg about device detected is using too much power, and that's it, nothing pops up, even the instructions aren't a help. The entire reason I got this thing is to use my ps3 controller on it via wire or wireless, and not any of the apps are working for controller gamepad support on games. Can any one simplify and explain what exactly I need to do with this thing?
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You said 'plugged in my charge cable ' , to the phone or wall charger?
I thought the micro usb port on back was for power.
I do not have one. just thinking out loud
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ToledoJab said:
You said 'plugged in my charge cable ' , to the phone or wall charger?
I thought the micro usb port on back was for power.
I do not have one. just thinking out loud
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I docked the phone, plugged the following cables in the back, phone usb charge cable to wall charger block into the wall, and ps3 usb charge cable into dualshock 3 controller, micro hdmi to monitor.
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I docked the phone, plugged the following cables in the back, phone usb charge cable to wall charger block into the wall, and ps3 usb charge cable into dualshock 3 controller, micro hdmi to monitor.
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Just did it with mine and it worked fine. Used the usb cable and charger plug that came with the ion (EP850), some hdmi cable I got online and my PS3 controller and it worked fine. Never had it give me any errors about device using too much power. I would say make sure you are using the EP850 power plug and maybe try different cables.
I'm using the extremely limited length Ion cable. The remote navigation works fine, just not the ps3 controller. Though, seems with my diminished battery life, my phone has more issues than this at the moment. Just biding time and waiting on the Xperia T to release.
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I'm using the extremely limited length Ion cable. The remote navigation works fine, just not the ps3 controller. Though, seems with my diminished battery life, my phone has more issues than this at the moment. Just biding time and waiting on the Xperia T to release.
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I noticed that the Dock won't work if you're charging off of something designed to deliver USB-level power. You'll need a specific charger like the one that came with your Ion (if one didn't come with the dock).
The only problem I was having when trying to game with the ion and SixaxiS was that it was lagging slightly pushing 1080p to my TV, but not flinching at the 720p on the phone. Any suggestions on settings to modify or somesuch?
I recently upgraded from an x10 to my shiny new ion and just ordered a micro hdmi cable to output pictures/video to my hdtv. I was wondering if it would be possible to also connect a USB OTG cable to the phone so that i could use a mouse or game controller through the USB port for playing games while outputting the video/audio to my hdtv?
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Fantus
I would like to know this as well, and it would be nice to have some recommendations for apps that can run different usb devices.
This info is from here
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/01/15/smartdock-for-xperia-ion-hdmi-multimedia-docking-station/
"The SmartDock is broadly similar to the LiveDock docking station, although it has one main difference – the inclusion of an HDMI port. This means that you can dock the Xperia ion into the SmartDock station, connect it via HDMI to your TV and look at photos, watch videos, listen to music or even connect a keyboard/mouse using the two onboard USB ports. It also, obviously, will charge your phone too."
If the dock can do it, should be good to go.
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I got the DK20 dock for my ion. The only gripe I have is that it doesn't draw enough power from a PC's USB port to charge the phone. You need to use the plug that comes with the dock or the ion. (I use the ion's charger at work and the plug for my x10 at home.)
A neat upshot is that the USB ports on the back can also be used to charge other devices or host a Flash drive for more storage. ES File Explorer handled the additional storage flawlessly.
I haven't tried a controller by USB yet, but I got the Sixaxis app from the Android Market. Maybe this will make it easier to pair...
fantus1 said:
I recently upgraded from an x10 to my shiny new ion and just ordered a micro hdmi cable to output pictures/video to my hdtv. I was wondering if it would be possible to also connect a USB OTG cable to the phone so that i could use a mouse or game controller through the USB port for playing games while outputting the video/audio to my hdtv?
Thanks,
Fantus
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I tried it out yesterday.
It really works well. Was able to play "The World Of Goo", using the mouse and viewing it on my samsung 21" monitor which has an hdmi option.
The mouse works pretty well. If you have a usb hub you could even connect a usb keyboard, which works well too.
So far I've used my Note II to host a mouse, a flash drive, and an SDXC card reader. I'm curious to know what the limits to its capabilities are. USB game pads/controllers? Hubs? Maybe even USB Ethernet adapters for wired usage?
I can update this post with a list of devices and device types that work, as we find them.
The PS3 Dual Shock 3 sixaxis controller works like a charm with GTA3. Just plug it in via the normal USB cord routed through a USB host adapter and you're good to go after hitting the pair button on the controller. Use the X button to accelerate, the square for braking/reverse, triangle to get in the car and circle to fight. The action is as smooth as it is on the normal console version of the game with no lags at all.
Here is what I know:
I can use a Samsung USB-to-HDMI adapter to display the screen on a TV while charging the phone. You can hook up a PS3 controller to the GN2 with a USB-OTG cable. I also know that you can connect certain devices to the GN2 via USB-OTG cable and a USB hub to charge the GN2 while using the peripheral.
What I would like to do:
I would like to be able to run an emulated two-player game on my GN2 while displaying on an HDMI connected TV, and having two controllers work at the same time for simultaneous two player action (ex. Street Fighter 2 Turbo for SNES). I already have a couple PS3 controllers as well as two generic USB PC gaming controllers that I would like to use.
Basically, is the USB port on the GN2 capable of being used to simultaneously charge the phone, and run the HDMI adapter and two USB controllers? If not, what about just running the HDMI adapter and charging the phone, then run two controllers via Bluetooth? Also, I see there is a smart dock (EDD-S20JWE) that looks to have all of the functionality I'm interested in, can anyone confirm this?
Thanks all.
I have never thought of that! I am also interested though!
EVOIXGSR said:
Here is what I know:
I can use a Samsung USB-to-HDMI adapter to display the screen on a TV while charging the phone. You can hook up a PS3 controller to the GN2 with a USB-OTG cable. I also know that you can connect certain devices to the GN2 via USB-OTG cable and a USB hub to charge the GN2 while using the peripheral.
What I would like to do:
I would like to be able to run an emulated two-player game on my GN2 while displaying on an HDMI connected TV, and having two controllers work at the same time for simultaneous two player action (ex. Street Fighter 2 Turbo for SNES). I already have a couple PS3 controllers as well as two generic USB PC gaming controllers that I would like to use.
Basically, is the USB port on the GN2 capable of being used to simultaneously charge the phone, and run the HDMI adapter and two USB controllers? If not, what about just running the HDMI adapter and charging the phone, then run two controllers via Bluetooth? Also, I see there is a smart dock (EDD-S20JWE) that looks to have all of the functionality I'm interested in, can anyone confirm this?
Thanks all.
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I actually just tried this very setup the other day: HDMI out + PS3 controller. In theory it should be awesome... But I found that the HDMI out is super laggy (both in terms of framerate, and a pretty significant delay between what shows on the phone screen vs. the TV screen). I tried it on both a TV, and a PC monitor, and it was the same. I posted about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2098948
It made every game I tried unplayable. I didn't even try a fighting game, but I'd imagine it would be even worse.
It makes the setup pretty unusable in my opinion, which has me pretty bummed out because I was really excited about it.
I'll just stick to GameKlip + PS3 controller for now.
So, I'm using one of my PS3 controllers to play games on my ZL, over cable with the gameklip. Now I have a bit of a problem, while connected, the ZL charges the controller.
Which annoys me a bit, it would be better if the controller would only use its own internal battery, or would charge the ZL.
So very basically, is it possible to make use of the PS3 controller's battery while connected to the ZL?
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Dead Metal said:
So, I'm using one of my PS3 controllers to play games on my ZL, over cable with the gameklip. Now I have a bit of a problem, while connected, the ZL charges the controller.
Which annoys me a bit, it would be better if the controller would only use its own internal battery, or would charge the ZL.
So very basically, is it possible to make use of the PS3 controller's battery while connected to the ZL?
Thanks.
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it is better to use a wireless ps3 controller, basically if wired, the battery of your ZL will quickly drain because it will transfer to your PS3 controller.
ejhay007 said:
it is better to use a wireless ps3 controller, basically if wired, the battery of your ZL will quickly drain because it will transfer to your PS3 controller.
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That's why I'm asking if it's possible to make use of the controller's battery.
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That's why I'm asking if it's possible to make use of the controller's battery.
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I don't think the PS3 controller drains the battery of the Xperia phone or tablet that much.
That being said, you can use an official PS3 controller over Bluetooth (wireless.) The Xperia Z, ZL phones and the Sony tablets have Xperia Connectivity built-in. There's a long list of Sony devices that have Xperia connectivity too. Stay away from the knock off PS3 controllers from Wal-Mart, etc. They might be a bit cheaper, but there's no telling how well or not well they will work.
As a first time setup, you will need 2 cables: a USB On the Go cable to pair the phone or table to the controller and the mini USB cable that comes with the controller if you bought it with a PS3 system. The stand alone controllers at Best Buy, etc. do not have this cable. You can find USB on OTG and mini usb cables pretty much anywhere like Amazon, eBay, etc.
Once you have all the parts, you go into the Settings in Android and select Xperia Connectivity and then Dualshock 3 Wireless Controller. Then follow the instructions and you're done. You don't need to connect the controller to the phone with the cables after that.
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Dead Metal said:
So, I'm using one of my PS3 controllers to play games on my ZL, over cable with the gameklip. Now I have a bit of a problem, while connected, the ZL charges the controller.
Which annoys me a bit, it would be better if the controller would only use its own internal battery, or would charge the ZL.
So very basically, is it possible to make use of the PS3 controller's battery while connected to the ZL?
Thanks.
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How is your experience with the GameKlip and the Xperia ZL? Considering getting one myself so want to see if the GameKlip holds onto the phone snugly. I don't have a case for the phone, just so you know.
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That's why I'm asking if it's possible to make use of the controller's battery.
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That is not how the USB interface is designed. Since the phone is the host device, the phone must be the one to supply the power according the USB spec. The reason for this is because the host device needs to power things like flash drives and hard drives.
The reason your phone charges when it is plugged into a computer is because the computer acts as the host device and has to supply power.This is why USB cables have different ends USB-A, USB-B, USB-C, etc. The connector end usually determines which device will be the host.
Hope this clarifies things.
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That is not how the USB interface is designed. Since the phone is the host device, the phone must be the one to supply the power according the USB spec. The reason for this is because the host device needs to power things like flash drives and hard drives.
The reason your phone charges when it is plugged into a computer is because the computer acts as the host device and has to supply power.This is why USB cables have different ends USB-A, USB-B, USB-C, etc. The connector end usually determines which device will be the host.
Hope this clarifies things.
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Thanks, now it makes sense. I kinda hoped there was a way of tricking the phone in viewing the controller as pocket power bank as well as a controller.
Maybe if I got a powerbank an otg cable?
Dead Metal said:
Thanks, now it makes sense. I kinda hoped there was a way of tricking the phone in viewing the controller as pocket power bank as well as a controller.
Maybe if I got a powerbank an otg cable?
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You can just bluetooth pair your DS3 to the ZL and then use the powerbank as an auxiliary power source. Since the ZL is certified to be used with the DS3, you can have full control of the controller wirelessly. Did you know that once the controller is paired you can just press the PS button and it will turn on and auto pair? You can even turn off the controller from the phone's notification bar.
The powerbank should have a full sized USB port that makes it the device that supplies the power. It would be a cumbersome setup but will let you game on the go for longer.
Maybe you can stick some velcro tape to the gameklip spine and stick the powerbank to that. It will make the rig very top heavy, but if you can live with it, then it's worth a try.
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needmoregigs said:
You can just bluetooth pair your DS3 to the ZL and then use the powerbank as an auxiliary power source. Since the ZL is certified to be used with the DS3, you can have full control of the controller wirelessly. Did you know that once the controller is paired you can just press the PS button and it will turn on and auto pair? You can even turn off the controller from the phone's notification bar.
The powerbank should have a full sized USB port that makes it the device that supplies the power. It would be a cumbersome setup but will let you game on the go for longer.
Maybe you can stick some velcro tape to the gameklip spine and stick the powerbank to that. It will make the rig very top heavy, but if you can live with it, then it's worth a try.
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Yea I know that, it tells you while you set it up. I would love to use the BT option with a powerbank, but the emulator I use to play roms doesn't recognize the PS3 over BT, which is just utter BS if you ask me.
I can live with it being a bit top heavy, I even have plans to attach speakers to the klip.
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Yea I know that, it tells you while you set it up. I would love to use the BT option with a powerbank, but the emulator I use to play roms doesn't recognize the PS3 over BT, which is just utter BS if you ask me.
I can live with it being a bit top heavy, I even have plans to attach speakers to the klip.
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I'm still trying to picture a wiring topography that would serve your needs.
I found this and hope it will help you with your rig.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-Male-To-Micro-USB-Female-Host-OTG-Cable-Micro-USB-Adapter-Y-Splitter-/111312020970