Isn't it Unfair to STRONGSTEVE? - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Will all due respect to all the great developers I just want to know how does one define what is development and what is not.
Since the day I have been using Smartphones ( PPC6700), I have been using different custom ROMs. No one has built it from scratch, they were all provided by the CellPhone Makers and Cell Service providers combined. Then the developers took that and then edited it to make it faster, better etc.
Now strongsteve takes the base and then ODEXES the DEODEXED parts and then provides awesome ROM. Developers who provide De-Odexed ROM, do not provide the ODEXED version of the same ROM, that makes me think that what ever Steve does was not there and he did something that made it into flash able ROM, then why is it not considered Development. He is such a great asset and is forced to Post his Fully Functional Odexed ROM in general section. I think its not fair.
I know people will flame me for this, and that is fine, it will not change my bank balance so I do not care, but I just wanted to voice my opinion and also learn about the definition of development.
Again this is not an attack on other developers, without you guys Android would be nothing but 2nd best option after IOS, right now in my opinion it wold be an insult to Android to speak about it in the same breath as iOS, and all this is due to only you guys ( Developers). I keep flashing all your ( De-odexed and Odexed) ROMs as I like novelty and also can help in testing.

You know, I've never understood why people get so bent out of shape about the development section here. I'm a member of many different forums that cover all kinds of different topics, including other Android forums. Threads get posted in the wrong section on EVERY forum just about every day. This is the ONLY site where people get all bent out of shape because of it, and members are threatened with an "infraction" simply for posting something in the wrong place. Every other site, a moderator simply moves the thread to the proper location and provides a polite explanation.
They came up with the whole 10 post thing before you are allowed to post in the development section, but just because someone has 10 posts doesn't mean they are developing something. Now we have people spamming the other forums just to get their 10 posts in.
Why not just make it so only developers are able to post new threads in the development section?
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I have been reading the development forums since release day on the E4GT. I flash different ROMS several times a week and have tried them all, but I can't relay my experiences with each different ROM because I don't have the ten posts. This looks like a good time to make my first of ten useless spam posts in the general forum to be able to post in the dev section.

I appreciate all the great ROMS, Kernels, Themes, Mods and everything else created by all the talented coders in this community. IMO, a great piece of work is a great piece of work, It doesn't make a hill of beans difference to me which section its posted in.

The reason most people use deodexed is because it's flexible. If you use any odexed ROM, you're stuck with it's theme. But that eliminates the problem in StrongSteve's case because he's got the ICS stock odexed verison.

Its not about odexed or de-odexed
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The reason most people use deodexed is because it's flexible. If you use any odexed ROM, you're stuck with it's theme. But that eliminates the problem in StrongSteve's case because he's got the ICS stock odexed verison.
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Hi my post was not about odexed or deodexed that debate will go on for ever...I use all the roms that are posted...
I generally post for asking questions when I need help..This is the first time I have posted to complain that its was not fair to consider what Steve does as non-development...If you take parts of the apps and edit then and then put them all together and make it Bootable Installable ROM then it means development and Steve does much much beyond just that...He was being nice by not complaining about it and he did post his work in General section and I felt it bad so I spoke out nothing much.

tplasek said:
I have been reading the development forums since release day on the E4GT. I flash different ROMS several times a week and have tried them all, but I can't relay my experiences with each different ROM because I don't have the ten posts. This looks like a good time to make my first of ten useless spam posts in the general forum to be able to post in the dev section.
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lol me too

asteetva said:
Will all due respect to all the great developers I just want to know how does one define what is development and what is not.
Since the day I have been using Smartphones ( PPC6700), I have been using different custom ROMs. No one has built it from scratch, they were all provided by the CellPhone Makers and Cell Service providers combined. Then the developers took that and then edited it to make it faster, better etc.
Now strongsteve takes the base and then ODEXES the DEODEXED parts and then provides awesome ROM. Developers who provide De-Odexed ROM, do not provide the ODEXED version of the same ROM, that makes me think that what ever Steve does was not there and he did something that made it into flash able ROM, then why is it not considered Development. He is such a great asset and is forced to Post his Fully Functional Odexed ROM in general section. I think its not fair.
I know people will flame me for this, and that is fine, it will not change my bank balance so I do not care, but I just wanted to voice my opinion and also learn about the definition of development.
Again this is not an attack on other developers, without you guys Android would be nothing but 2nd best option after IOS, right now in my opinion it wold be an insult to Android to speak about it in the same breath as iOS, and all this is due to only you guys ( Developers). I keep flashing all your ( De-odexed and Odexed) ROMs as I like novelty and also can help in testing.
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This has already been talked about, discussed, hashed over and the dead horse has been beaten - it's a dead discussion about Strongsteve - he hasn't left XDA and even stated that he never called himself a developer and didn't care where his stuff was - so I think you've missed something.
If you want to discuss something like this - I suggest you redirect your initial comments and not bring up dead issues - you'll only inflame what was already overblown and old news now.

OP give yourself a big pat on the back for beating a dead horse.
nice thread bro
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[ROM][9 MAR]COREDROID DESIRE Z v1.3 [SENSE 3.5][FAST|SMOOTH] ONLINE!

MOD EDIT: As of November 7th CoreDroid officially moved all its support to another site.
Due to repeated kanging from other Roms as well as needing CST paid version to obtain the latest version of the Rom, anything related to the CoreDroid team is not allowed to be posted anymore on XDA and is from now on considered warez.
This includes: Signatures, links, themes, as well as any work developed by the CD team or included in any Rom.
TL;dr: If you included anything from CD in your work, you have to remove it.
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nice.I'll wait for this
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plz release it now cant w8!
i hope is the less bugy rom. looks beautifull from screenshots!
have tweaks in settings like rcmix tweaks?
masterismos said:
plz release it now cant w8!
i hope is the less bugy rom. looks beautifull from screenshots!
have tweaks in settings like rcmix tweaks?
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You can find more updated screen here on this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195902
It as Tweaks also not the RCMIX ones.
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I hope that all of this skins does't make the rom laggy. Waiting
Sergio76 said:
You can find more updated screen here on this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195902
It as Tweaks also not the RCMIX ones.
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i dont care whose the tweaks better id is you work just all we love to play with tweaks and will be beautifull. with tweaks i will love it more plz guys what are you w8ting 4?
where is this core droid for desire z??? at coredroid web page there is'nt
Have you modified the kernel at all? Is your ROM GPL compliant?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755508
I ask because your note about themes seems a little harsh, and also makes me think that your theme is the only thing distinguishing this ROM from any other.
What ROM do you use as base? What customizations do you make? Which kernel do you use? etc. - Are you notifying any developers whose work you have used, and if you have are you going to publicly state this?
ulkika said:
where is this core droid for desire z??? at coredroid web page there is'nt
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its coming soon... its only preview at this time.
xdadevolpers said:
I hope that all of this skins does't make the rom laggy. Waiting
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Skin doesnt make the rom Lag.
masterismos said:
i dont care whose the tweaks better id is you work just all we love to play with tweaks and will be beautifull. with tweaks i will love it more plz guys what are you w8ting 4?
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Will be released when it is ready. Hoping today is the day...
qpop said:
Have you modified the kernel at all? Is your ROM GPL compliant?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755508
I ask because your note about themes seems a little harsh, and also makes me think that your theme is the only thing distinguishing this ROM from any other.
What ROM do you use as base? What customizations do you make? Which kernel do you use? etc. - Are you notifying any developers whose work you have used, and if you have are you going to publicly state this?
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Why do you think its harsh? This skin is 100% made by CoreDroid and it has been ripped and distributed 100's of times so no I dont find it harsh, we own it and we deserve the right to say no you cannot rip it even though it still happens daily.
We also do indeed give credit when needed. Please just wait and try the ROM before you start making assumptions. Should be released today if all goes well.
DaDoctor said:
Skin doesnt make the rom Lag.
Will be released when it is ready. Hoping today is the day...
Why do you think its harsh? This skin is 100% made by CoreDroid and it has been ripped and distributed 100's of times so no I dont find it harsh, we own it and we deserve the right to say no you cannot rip it even though it still happens daily.
We also do indeed give credit when needed. Please just wait and try the ROM before you start making assumptions. Should be released today if all goes well.
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GPL compliance is important. It is a simple yes/no question: Have you modified the kernel or any other aspect of the ROM that is covered by the GPL?
If the answer is yes, then by not providing the source / linking to the original source if unchanged you are in breach of the GPL, and in much the same way as you complain about people ripping your skin, you have taken GPL work and used it, without respect for the rules. If this is the case, again, much the same as your skin, the mods will remove your ROM thread.
Edit: Just to clarify, I have no vested interest in the success or otherwise of this ROM, and I'm not a dev. All the same, I find it irksome for the OP to make such a big deal about their skin being ripped (which is, I guess, a collection of found icons put together anyway), post zero information about the sources of the rest of the ROM.
Pulls up chair with a cuppa.
V interested to see how this runs.
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Ps. Apologies for the random non dev post. Will edit with a mini review when tested
qpop said:
GPL compliance is important. It is a simple yes/no question: Have you modified the kernel or any other aspect of the ROM that is covered by the GPL?
If the answer is yes, then by not providing the source / linking to the original source if unchanged you are in breach of the GPL, and in much the same way as you complain about people ripping your skin, you have taken GPL work and used it, without respect for the rules. If this is the case, again, much the same as your skin, the mods will remove your ROM thread.
Edit: Just to clarify, I have no vested interest in the success or otherwise of this ROM, and I'm not a dev. All the same, I find it irksome for the OP to make such a big deal about their skin being ripped (which is, I guess, a collection of found icons put together anyway), post zero information about the sources of the rest of the ROM.
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Jesus christ, Ill tell ya what, when the ROM is released, download it, examine it and report us if anything is ripped. Is that good enough for you????????
Please stop crapping on the thread before we even post the ROM. I dont understand some ppl...
qpop said:
If the answer is yes, then by not providing the source / linking to the original source if unchanged you are in breach of the GPL, and in much the same way as you complain about people ripping your skin, you have taken GPL work and used it, without respect for the rules. ...........................(which is, I guess, a collection of found icons put together anyway), post zero information about the sources of the rest of the ROM.
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Ever heard of original artwork from a dev team?
As OP has stated, please don't slate a rom before its even posted.
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Why not wait until the Rom is ready before creating a thread? Never understood why people do this.
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G1ForFun said:
Why not wait until the Rom is ready before creating a thread? Never understood why people do this.
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Simply because we are releasing ROMs for 6 devices today. Between cooking, uploading, updating our site and having a day job and family/kids, this just makes it a bit more manageable.

[MOD] -- Red Lights Status Bar

galaxynexusmods.com brings you "Red Lights Status Bar Mod." Have this mod compatible with AOKP CODENAME & GUMMYNEX.
Simply run the zip in Metamorph and you are good to go.
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AOKP M3/23/24: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/59576992/NAVandSTATS/stat/redLights9304/redLights.zip
AOKP 25/26/27: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/59576992/NAVandSTATS/AOKP25/stat/redLights9304/redLights.zip
Codename: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/59576992/Codename/STAT/redLights9304/redLights.zip
GummyNex: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/59576992/GUMMY/statusGUMMy/redLights9304/redLights.zip
Craptastic.
Didn't work for me on M3
dangerdan said:
Didn't work for me on M3
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Sorry about that. What went wrong?
Anyone know if and how well this mod works with the Cobalt theme on AOKP build 27? I'd particularly like to see a screenshot with the status bar pulled down, if anyone is willing to be a guinea pig. =p
this is pooperific!
The day is mine
The night is also mine
kgunderson said:
Sorry about that. What went wrong?
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Metamorph said something about the files were wrong or something.
I appreciate dangerdan specifying his issue with installing this mod, but I have no idea what exactly the bases are of the other negative comments about this mod.
MacDaddyTMT said:
I appreciate dangerdan specifying his issue with installing this mod, but I have no idea what exactly the bases are of the other negative comments about this mod.
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It might have something to do with the OP spamming the board every day with links to his pay site, and creating a new thread every day. Just doesn't sit well with a lot of folks.
Seems kind of immature. If the OP is violating site rules, report him to the mods. If he's not, either shut up and color or lobby for a change to the rules so as to bring him into the wrong. I appreciate greatly that a lot of mods, etc., are offered here for free, but I don't think every mod has to be free, and, in fact, the OP is offering a free mod in addition to linking to his pay site.
MacDaddyTMT said:
Seems kind of immature. If the OP is violating site rules, report him to the mods. If he's not, either shut up and color or lobby for a change to the rules so as to bring him into the wrong. I appreciate greatly that a lot of mods, etc., are offered here for free, but I don't think every mod has to be free, and, in fact, the OP is offering a free mod in addition to linking to his pay site.
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Thank you. I am not trying to make a huge profit with my paid mods. Just enough to be able to keep on creating them. I am not sure what any complaints are about. I do not feel like I am breaking any rules at all.
I am posting a quality mod for multiple roms completely free of charge. Yes, I have a link to my site, but it is in my signature and at no time am I charging for anything in the forum nor promoting any specific paid mod. I really don't see how this doesn't sit well with some people.
As for different posts, I am releasing different mods which may make my post become very clustered. Not sure how seeing a free mod almost every day is annoying. I apologize for any offense to anyone. I really am just trying to provide quality mods and help people make their phones look as nice as possible.
"Real" men don't use metamorph, Or pay for horribly stretched out fuzzy graphics. But the daily "free spam threads" are annoying #justsayin.
good day.
kgunderson said:
Thank you. I am not trying to make a huge profit with my paid mods. Just enough to be able to keep on creating them. I am not sure what any complaints are about. I do not feel like I am breaking any rules at all.
I am posting a quality mod for multiple roms completely free of charge. Yes, I have a link to my site, but it is in my signature and at no time am I charging for anything in the forum nor promoting any specific paid mod. I really don't see how this doesn't sit well with some people.
As for different posts, I am releasing different mods which may make my post become very clustered. Not sure how seeing a free mod almost every day is annoying. I apologize for any offense to anyone. I really am just trying to provide quality mods and help people make their phones look as nice as possible.
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Some constructive criticism- Not my intent to hate on you for free mods. Maybe instead of a new thread every day, create one thread for your mods and update it whenever you want. Those who like your mods will know to star the thread and come back to it whenever they wish. As for the fuzzy graphics, you might consider using vector images as opposed to raster so they don't pixelate. Not condescending at all, just hopefully helpful criticism.
chopper the dog said:
"Real" men don't use metamorph, Or pay for horribly stretched out fuzzy graphics. But the daily "free spam threads" are annoying #justsayin.
good day.
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People bashing others work and ways are annoying #justsaying
Good day.
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artvandelay440 said:
Some constructive criticism- Not my intent to hate on you for free mods. Maybe instead of a new thread every day, create one thread for your mods and update it whenever you want. Those who like your mods will know to star the thread and come back to it whenever they wish. As for the fuzzy graphics, you might consider using vector images as opposed to raster so they don't pixelate. Not condescending at all, just hopefully helpful criticism.
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Ya I do a fair amount of vector work in illustrator. I think a few things may appear a little fuzzy here and there because of the way they are saved. Still working on getting that perfected. Thanks for the advice
XAviierG said:
People bashing others work and ways are annoying #justsaying
Good day.
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Well said.
Why are some people so unnecessarily rude - its pathetic.
If you don't like the OP's mods then stop reading his threads.
how can i come back from this mod ? can someone post the original GN file ? thanks
njke2000 said:
how can i come back from this mod ? can someone post the original GN file ? thanks
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Ya no problem. Here are the revert files. Run them through Metamorph like you did the mod.
AOKP M3/23/24: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/59576992/revert.zip
AOKP 25/26/27: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/59576992/NAVandSTATS/AOKP25/revert.zip
Codename: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/59576992/Codename/CNrevert.zip
GummyNex: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/59576992/GUMMY/GUMMYrevert.zip
It would b more profitable if these where universal mods like the ones from droidpirate
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I know on Codename, you can just set the color to whatever. So why is this MOD necessary?
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My motive
My goals
Introduction child-boards
Child boards under my recommendation
My Motive
However XDA is a wonderful community there is still some room for improvement. XDA is great, as so are 'most' of the people around here, but however it's greatness there is still
one thing that does sometimes annoy me, is its organisation..
Let's be honest some people don't know where they should start their thread of where to find stuff, on the other hand most people who do have those problems are mostly plain stupid or are to lazy to search.
Yet I believe, that a little re-organisation will be able to address this matter and makes our lives, as the lives of users, mods or developers a little easier.
Lucky for you guys, I am not the guy that just complains, without constructing or achieving a potential solution.
I already put some hard work in it and I am fully prepared to do even more if necessarily , but before you judge me, please read and see see what I had in mind.
My Goals
Optimizing your User Experience
Creating new Levels of User Potential
Simplifying current structures and its organisations
Smoother, Faster, Clearer and Better
Introducing child-boards
I know it looks plain simple and you can believe I barely made any changes. BUT THAT IS THE KEY! That is my GOAL, keeping things as slim as possible. Still a child board can achieve an immense difference just only in your experience.
Imagine this simple user interface: Where you'll be able find to find a sub-board with ONLY ROM Releases or just everything related to it, so as for kernels.
Still I am perfectly aware that the ANDROID development goes beyond, ROM's and Kernels, YET these 2 elements in my opinion the main reason why people go to XDA, or they create kernels and ROM's or they want to flash them.
~~~ Organisational Problems ~~~​
No offense but isn't this a little weird, that so many people voted, where they'd best place their own thread?
Or is still someone able to tell, where I should fit this topic? ​
Child boards under my recommendation:
Separated Product Model Boards:
Even though people might find it lame, just know flashing the wrong firmware onto your phone, can brick your device,
accidents easily occur and even I noticed I accidently clicked onto the G development without even noticing it after 5 min and however the difference might look minor to some of you.
Why would you put 2 devices in the same area, knowing they require different systems, firmware and work on different hardware, meaning even though they are in the same range, THEY STILL DEFER
General Talk:
News​This community has a lot of potential users, that are motivated and willing to uncover the latest and hottest news for their phone or their device and I am fully aware that we do have XDA Tv.
But still I strongly believe this could be a very very useful sub-forum. Moderators or Forum Staff can sticky their posts to announce new rules or competitions
and only selected members will be able to post news concerning their galaxy s2 or their device, to decrease chances of any spam topics.
So why would we miss out on this potential, why wouldn't we publish a story that for example, AGPS, allows you to get a faster GPS lock or people invented a new script to conserve 50% more battery than usual,
does it really harm anyone, that one story wouldn't be that interesting, as this place could offer you, a pool of different stories that might catch your interest.
Nobody is forced to publish something, neither are you to read, you'll only have the Galaxy S2 knowledge library right at your disposal.
Android Developent:
Seperated ROM & Kernel Board​Wouldn't it be way easier to find all your ROM releases in one place and ONLY them?
Would we even need updated indexes anymore, when this would all be clear and accessible in one single location,
would we even be bothered to posts polls as where should I put this thread as you might have already seen above?
Wouldn't this make your user experience more simpler finding in two clicks whatever you'd like?
I'd certainly vow for this!
ROM & Kernels Separated, everything else, in the android development thread (Applications, scripts, Tweaks, ...
Interactive Search Functions
MORE QUESTIONS OR SUGGESTIONS? FEEL FREE TO COMMENT OR ASK RIGHT AWAY
Wow - thank you for your well thought out and detailed posts. We actually do have some of the changes you are recommending in the pipeline and will certainly take your other recommendations into consideration in the future.
bitpushr said:
Wow - thank you for your well thought out and detailed posts. We actually do have some of the changes you are recommending in the pipeline and will certainly take your other recommendations into consideration in the future.
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You shouldn't' be thanking me, it's my privilege I can be part of this community.
I saw a lot of potential around here and I am not much of a scripter, neither am I able to cook mods or roms
But I just wanted to give something back in return
I am just a simple student from Belgium with some crazy ideas
Still I feel honored my contribution will be taken in consideration and if you just require my help
Or you want me to do something, don't even hesitate to ask
Yours sincerely, Intensity
I for one, love this new idea. The separated rom and kernel sections are superb, it would be so much easier for users to find what they want. I could spend time writing every little thing down, but im on a short schedule. All in all, I want this
The Archangel said:
I for one, love this new idea. The separated rom and kernel sections are superb, it would be so much easier for users to find what they want. I could spend time writing every little thing down, but im on a short schedule. All in all, I want this
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Even if you're time is short, you should be ashamed for not clicking the thank button
Haha just kidding, much appreciated

Team Viper X RC v3.0.1 rumours...

I have been reading here & there on the interweb that v3.0.1 RC is out there somewhere. On the official xda thread there are 2 members posting, stating that they are currently testing the new Viper X v3.0.2 ROM. If there is anyone out there with information on how to become a tester or to just be able to download the beta version. This would be most appreciated. Viper X was the first custom I downloaded and booted on my One X. Have tried many, many other ROM's & none compare. Some have this, some have that, but Viper X has it all... The best custom ROM I have seen full stop.
Hate to say but we have good bunch of beta testers already.
It will soon be released
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Take a chill pill bro It's just a ROM. It will be released when it's released. There are more important things in life . AFAIK, there's no way to just jump into the team and test. If you're itching for a JB ROM, there are others. If you want Viper, use the ICS version.
RohinZaraki said:
Take a chill pill bro It's just a ROM. It will be released when it's released. There are more important things in life . AFAIK, there's no way to just jump into the team and test. If you're itching for a JB ROM, there are others. If you want Viper, use the ICS version.
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Hey guy, not appreciated... What do you know about me or my extensive linux programming experience. Android is just a hobby, please do not discourage those who could seriously have the goods to be become one of your almighty testers. Yes, there is a life other than android, and yes I can wait for the JB release, and yes I am still using the 2.71 ROM. Maybe there are others out there that look at things differently as to bring a fresh new idea into a world held so tight by only a few.
don't want to break it to you, but you are asking for a link to the beta, as you could have seen in the official thread there is no link and testing is a work in progress by a team that circles around Richmondo. If you wanted to apply as a betatester you just could have sent Rich a PM and you would have the answer.
My opinion, opening this thread was (is) useless
Well Mr Hofs my opinion is that 90% of your post are useless. I don't understand why the need to comment some users idea in such a manner, i am watching the Viper thread quite closely and i am seeing your nonsense posts every single day but i somehow managed to restrain myself till now.
I am very curious too about the Jelly Bean rom, i loved the ICS version and eagerly awaiting the next release and the one for the One X+
I too am very "frustrated" and waiting for a new version, but Richmondo's post calmed my feelings.
Can't say that i agree with the topic, but it's a try, and it's a more honest aprouch than yours.
uqadwe said:
Well Mr Hofs my opinion is that 90% of your post are useless. I don't understand why the need to comment some users idea in such a manner, i am watching the Viper thread quite closely and i am seeing your nonsense posts every single day but i somehow managed to restrain myself till now.
I am very curious too about the Jelly Bean rom, i loved the ICS version and eagerly awaiting the next release and the one for the One X+
I too am very "frustrated" and waiting for a new version, but Richmondo's post calmed my feelings.
Can't say that i agree with the topic, but it's a try, and it's a more honest aprouch than yours.
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My nonsense posts everyday....show me wich are nonsense, at least i make donations to the team and I try to give input with themer fisha and work out my ideas and edit apps for the red venom theme ......where is your oh so great input ... well you know definitely what you are talking about. Have you also seen how many useless posts i posted in the Q&A part of the forum.
My reaction was a polite one and not offensive to the OP, I also did not use any words to hurt the OP, just giving my opinion.....and I'm the least frustrated about the release....having fun with other roms and the viper ics, and having fun in the viper thread from time to time...if that is useless I would have had some infractions from the mods and not a click on the thanks button. Get your facts right. that you are frustrated about the release is not my problem.....
I know now why its better that you keep your mouth shut :thumbdown:
And I stated very clear that I shared my opinion .....not somebody else's.
Wow another flame war begins ,Why don't people just live and let live .
hassan89 said:
Wow another flame war begins ,Why don't people just live and let live .
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Well yeah I'm done ..... Otherwise I will be posting more useless posts.
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Well yeah I'm done ..... Otherwise I will be posting more useless posts.
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well i think that 90% (probably more) of what you write is very helpful indeed and please don't stop :fingers-crossed:
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sorry OP i forgot to answer your question as i was side-tracked! ... to answer your question the dev @Rich wrote it will be uploaded next month around the 12th of Jan and the beta testing has just about finished
Not to offend anyone but I don't see the point to rushing the ROM and requesting for beta testing or ETA. When the developer & the Team feels comfortable they will release it. The Team had opened for beta testing when it was in ICS so if they need more they will open and intimate the users. Till then it's better it wait patiently, because unlike other ROMs there is a lot of work to get all the ViperX features ported to new version our I'm sure they are working as hard as they can to releases it to our community. I'm no Moderator but my suggestion would be to keep the discussion friendly.... Cheers
Happy New year
Thread is closed, it's going way off topic and the topic is asking for something in the wrong way, please just PM the team next time.
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Question What happend to Raghu varma and moto g60/g40 development?

Hi everyone.
I just noticed that currently there's just one developer (Raghu varma) who's developing for our Hanoip devices; last month i noticed that his XDA threads had been closed by his own request. I searched a little more, and i noticed that many of his other development threads from other devices were also closed (by his request i guess)
Does this means that development for our device are kind of abandoned?
Also, there's a telegram group that publish his roms (and any other from this device, if any) and there aren't new posts since august 27.
Does anyone knows anything? :'s
I don't know, I'm using aosp13 and there are basically no bugs
i've found this,
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So...one guy in one device forum...made him stop all development for all devices? Sounds a bit extreme, but...I gotta say, I kinda understand where is he coming from with all this.
Hardware is expensive. Even building on a Google virtual machine costs money. And when you're building multiple ROMs for multiple devices, that means lots and lots of TBs of storage, and a pretty beefy computer so you can finish all that work preferably before New Year's.
Also, I know this kind of people. People who love to just complain about everything. I see them everywhere. And it drives me crazy. It's like nothing is good enough for them. They keep complaining and demanding stuff. And they tend to forget all the work and all the time that goes into this. They just don't appreciate it. I mean, it's not all about the money. Although, as I said, hardware is expensive, and...you do need to eat, once in a while. So...a little something would be really appreciated. But when you're doing it for free, and you don't even get a thank you; instead, you only see complaints and requests and people demanding things to be done in a certain way, in a certain time...you get sick of it pretty fast.
People like this don't care enough to see the good in anything. Everything is trash, everything is not worth anything (even when you get it for free!), so...yeah. The rest of the post has been removed (and I'm sure it was for a good reason), but I can imagine what was probably there before.
So I kinda understand his decision. Development is not easy. And it can be expensive, if you want hardware. So...yeah, when you see people like that who are just not ok with anything, you kinda wanna give up on everything and move on. Cause you feel like nothing is worth your time more than your own life and your own peace of mind.
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I don't know, I'm using aosp13 and there are basically no bugs
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How does one install that? And where to get it from?
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How does one install that? And where to get it from?
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The post has been closed, and the bluetooth of that rom can only be paired and cannot be connected to use and the android auto cannot be initialized. I think this may be related to the bluetooth failure. . . . . Well if it weren't for these two questions I think it's pretty good. . . . . Pity
@dhinesh_cool
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XDA is in no way a ring for childish fights inherited from external chat groups. If you consider yourself being kanged on XDA, please provide the proofs to our moderation team for investigation. Meanwhile, keep the drama away from xda threads if you can't handle it by PM.
Thank you.
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The post has been closed, and the bluetooth of that rom can only be paired and cannot be connected to use and the android auto cannot be initialized. I think this may be related to the bluetooth failure. . . . . Well if it weren't for these two questions I think it's pretty good. . . . . Pity
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Well, in fact, I used three roms made by him. Among them, los does not have its own Google suite, which does not meet Google's requirements, so it can't run Android auto. However, aosp and pe come with Android auto and Google suite. but apparently they face the same bug there must be a bug somewhere and i will have to go back to the official rom to get me to use android auto
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@dhinesh_cool
@Raghu varma
THREAD CLEANED
XDA is in no way a ring for childish fights inherited from external chat groups. If you consider yourself being kanged on XDA, please provide the proofs to our moderation team for investigation. Meanwhile, keep the drama away from xda threads if you can't handle it by PM.
Thank you.
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To be honest there is nothing to hide but ultimately the background music with hate is just making me more headache to deal with these few haters. Even though if you look in to my works from last 3 years to till date. I am following my protocol with proper terms & conditions. So just dealing with few new haters in a positive way. On top of it i don't even care about other developers unless they do something to me or some friendship from long but ultimately if you look in to his posts, he himself posting all drama . So better he should surrender with his own scrap. I am out from this so kindly from now i request XDA moderators to ban all these story writers who post racism/criticism/nepotism stories.
By the way the Kang word doesn't even fit to me because ultimately according to GPL my kernel source is always publicly available and you can take that and share to XDA DRT team. Iam ready for it. Most importantly i already told to everyone in all places( inside & outside XDA )as well "if anyone have issues with authorship then come to me, will review and proceed accordingly but if i identify the commit is fishy then i will discard on face" but ultimately few knew only creating drama.
Thanks for your time moderator.
Cheers
because one useless guy there complain about bugs.... so simple

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