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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-music-limits-device-deauthorization-makes-flashers-pay/
Check out this thread on google music if you use it and love to flash rooms. Says google music will only allow 10 devices, so if you flash a lot of rooms you may have to open a new account
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No sweat, just deauthorize your google device friends..
"Sign into your Google Music account via a PC. In the upper right most corner of the Music page, right next to your photo, if you have one, is the cog. Click on the cog and you will be presented with options. Select music settings and viola. You will quickly and easily see every device currently authorized to your Google music account along with their dates."
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http://androidspin.com/2011/12/17/h...uld-deauthorized-google-music-synced-devices/
You can only dauthorize 4 devices a year now.
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Just tested it and it will only allow 4 devices to be deauthorized before it gives you the "sorry you have deauthorized to many devices" message. That's going to be problematic if you change DD's every other month.
Google sooooo stupid.
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Yeah I sent a nasty e-mail about this.
At least you guys get Google Music, it's not available here in Canada. Well technically it's not available, there are ways around it I guess but you still don't get the whole service/experience.
anybody know how to reset your music database? I wanna clear it and re-sync it
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anybody know how to reset your music database? I wanna clear it and re-sync it
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Try wiping it through titanium.
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It sucks as a service anyway. You have to jump through hoops just to get what you pay for in a format that you can take elsewhere. I use it like the Amazon app store, download freebies or cheap stuff and ignore it otherwise.
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I really hate this since I use this a lot. Will we have to re-authorize if we restore google music though Titanium?
According to the edit, Google has fixed the issue but the deauthorization still shows 4 as the limit.
I just went through and deauthorized 9 accounts like a week ago. Who knows.
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Yeah I sent a nasty e-mail about this.
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dillym34 said:
You can only dauthorize 4 devices a year now.
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Not true I just deleted all 9 of mine
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They should have updated to an unlimited amount as of the new year and I could be wrong but I believe it registers devices not roms.. meaning if you flash a rom for our t989..that's 1 device regardless if its juggs, cm7 or darkside.. build.prop will determine device
this might be a little off topic, but is there a music app that lets me create a playlist easily without having to add songs 1 by 1? i just want to be able to play my 2000 songs in random order without the same songs repeating. i tried to do this by play shuffle all but once it stops and i start the next day, some song from previous day gets played again.
They reverted back till they make it where it.reads.the.phone id number because.the.build.prop was a stupid idea.
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dn3g3l said:
this might be a little off topic, but is there a music app that lets me create a playlist easily without having to add songs 1 by 1? i just want to be able to play my 2000 songs in random order without the same songs repeating. i tried to do this by play shuffle all but once it stops and i start the next day, some song from previous day gets played again.
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In subsonic you can just add everything to play then shuffle and save the playlist. At most it would be 26 + numbered artist names to add via play now. The random shuffle feature doesn't add very many songs. I think one file manager will allow you to create a playlist just by selecting the directory that contains the music. Its not estrongs. Can't remember the name of it.
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Awesome they reverted back, I was able to deauthorize the remaining 4!
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They should have updated to an unlimited amount as of the new year and I could be wrong but I believe it registers devices not roms.. meaning if you flash a rom for our t989..that's 1 device regardless if its juggs, cm7 or darkside.. build.prop will determine device
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It went by the rom for me. My phone was listed like 8 times.
Ok so this has been pissing me off for a very long time and I have done a lot of research and read through a bunch of forums and im still NOWHERE. When you save music to the SD card in google music on our LG optimus G it saves it to /data/data/com.google.android.music/
This is a HORRIBLE place to save music. Every time you wipe data you lose all the music you have downloaded which in my case is upwards of 10 gigs. Not fun to download 10 gigs of music every time i switch roms. I could merely not wipe data, but the problem with that is its then a dirty wipe and ive been doing this long enough to know that dirty wipes don't always go perfectly. So on to the solutions I have tried that have failed:
1.) Use the music+ app made by a user here on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2140756
Now this solution seemed to work at first because when you download the music for offline use you can literally store it anywhere. So store it on the simulated sd card and your problems are solved right? wrong. after downloading all the music, wiping your phone flashing a new rom and restore the apk+data with titanium i find out that the app can not see any previously downloaded music that still exists in that folder and thus when you try to download more music, it wipes everything and starts fresh.
2.)Use Directory Bind created by another user on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
now I had some hopes for this one but unfortunately it cannot access data stored in /data/data i dont think it has root permissions, which is the problem
3.) I briefly tried symlinking the data from a different folder (though i may have done it wrong i didn't put my whole heart into the attempt)
this didn't work either (unless i simply did it wrong.)
If anyone has a solution that does actually work I would greatly appreciate hearing about it because its at the point where i hesitate before flashing roms because i dont want to lose all my music.
Also please don't suggest simply putting the music on my phone and using a different player. i have come to find that i need to use google music as not all my music fits on the amount of storage we are given and i inevitably need to stream it sometimes.
Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions. I hope this thread also helps others having the same issues.
Edit: this is interesting. im gonna take a crack at it see if it helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842568
I didn't read your whole post because I'm tired, but I do know you can place the music in whatever place you want, and the music application will pull it up.
Edit: also, in my experience, any music I've saved through the music app has stuck through several rom flashes, including EOS and CM.
Tried a few things, including the methods in that last link you posted. I was missing pictures since flashing CM because of the sdcard/0 partition thingy it created. They seem to have come back. Maybe that will fix your music issue.
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outerpip said:
I didn't read your whole post because I'm tired, but I do know you can place the music in whatever place you want, and the music application will pull it up.
Edit: also, in my experience, any music I've saved through the music app has stuck through several rom flashes, including EOS and CM.
Tried a few things, including the methods in that last link you posted. I was missing pictures since flashing CM because of the sdcard/0 partition thingy it created. They seem to have come back. Maybe that will fix your music issue.
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Yeah im kind of hoping that the most recent solution i have found will solve my problem (deleting the nomedia thing) i haven't tried it yet but i would have to use google music+ for this not the regular. you can put your music elsewhere and google music will read it but see i want to have the adaptability of just clicking the save offline music thing to both add music to my offline, and remove music from it. its just convenient. If i had it in a different spot on the sd that wouldn't work.
when you flashed between eos and cm, did you factory reset in between? because if i dont do that the music will stay but i dont want to be constrained that way
There is an app called cloud music importer or something like that. It logs into your Google music account and then allows you to download your music. It stores it in the music folder under cloud music. Google music player will still play it too. The free version of the app only allows 50 downloads. There is an in app purchase that is tied to your Google account so you don't have to keep purchasing it.
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There is an app called cloud music importer or something like that. It logs into your Google music account and then allows you to download your music. It stores it in the music folder under cloud music. Google music player will still play it too. The free version of the app only allows 50 downloads. There is an in app purchase that is tied to your Google account so you don't have to keep purchasing it.
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Good idea but not what im looking for. two apps instead of one. and then the music is separate from the music in the google music app itself. kinda defeats the purpose
EDIT: i might end up giving in and doin this. i have been unsuccessful in just about every way im testing this app out to see how well it works
just realized this cant be my solution because i can't fit all my music on my phone otherwise this would be a good solution
You don't have to download your whole library. Just the albums or playlists that you want. I mainly use it to place music on my phone so zombie run can see it
Edit: I'm totally with you tho and wish it was back to how it was in the beginning instead of just downloading inside the app
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This is truly amazing... I canceled my subscription with Pandora, and now have Google Play All Access.
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Is there commercials and a skip limit?
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Is there commercials and a skip limit?
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nope, update the google play music app and it will give you the chance to subscribe and it gives you details
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Is there commercials and a skip limit?
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No commercials and unlimited skip and a built is eq customizer
Fully ANTHRAXED! !
I'm a rhapsody guy. I'll have to see if there is selective track downloading.
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I just canceled my rhapsody for this. Like rhapsody but much simpler with more tracks available. And cheaper!!!!
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This sounds sick! But my cheap ass is using Pandora lol.. $9.99 isn't bad though.
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I just canceled my rhapsody for this. Like rhapsody but much simpler with more tracks available. And cheaper!!!!
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Well, signed up for the trial. I'll see how it goes. I love the simplicity and functionality of Rhapsody, because I listen to offline albums all the time. If the trial goes well, I'm all over it. 10 devices?! That rocks!
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I'll give it a go too. I do prefer my modded Pandora though.
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I use both still but I prefer this to be honest.
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So you guys convinced me to do the free trial and I must say.. This app is spectacular!! Goodbye Pandora and hello Google All Access. Loving this app.
I like slacker radio... theres no limit..you can get a subscribtion..
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Well, signed up for the trial. I'll see how it goes. I love the simplicity and functionality of Rhapsody, because I listen to offline albums all the time. If the trial goes well, I'm all over it. 10 devices?! That rocks!
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if you sign up before the end of june it will be 7.99 for life. there is a little pin on the artists, albums. its called "pin" thats basically making tracks/albums/artists available offline.
this thing works AMAZING. ive tried spotify, pandora, and loved rhapsody. but this is truly innovative.
if you swipe left from the right of the screen when your streaming a "radio" it lets you peek at the next song. and if you click on the top icon "a list with a music note" it lets you see the entire radio playlist ahead of you. you can delete songs you dont want, and even rearrange the order of songs. you can also replay, and rewind songs your listening to. pandora, rhapsody. bye bye
Really loving this app update. Play Music sucked hard before this; album art and the little progress circle would disappear anytime you closed out the app, crashed for me, just generally not something I'd expect from Google. Now we've got $7.99 a month unlimited streaming with no ads that works on my phone AND through any browser, very nice looking new UI (even if some people aren't feeling the orange), I'm very happy! Spotify Premium might soon be cancelled!
Now if I can get gapless playback to actually work, it'll get that five star rating.
A weird thing I've noticed a couple times is that I'll choose a song to stream, and it'll work, but the audio quality is pretty crappy. To fix, I choose another song and then back to the first one, and voila, good quality. Not sure if it's my gloriously slow Sprint connection or an issue with the app.
I'm on the trial too... Searched for different artist and built a playlist with around 65 songs and now All Access added around 20 more automatically to my queue based on the artist and songs I was listening to.
I was swtiching between Slacker, Spotify and Grooveshark (locked in $3mo introductory)... Can't compare paid services with the first two since the free one gave what I was looking for. But this is basically Grooveshark on steriods! It's a bit tricky to get used to the UI and add songs to queue, tap on the wrong area and it plays that song and deletes your current queue creating a new station based on that artist.
What I don't like so far is the "dancing" album art when in app "listening now", flips side to side although looking at better it seems that the album art is too big and its doing a scroll to show all of it. Find it a bit annoying, but it could be just me :silly: It's missing the Android share feature, apparently it only shares on Google+ and apparenlty you only have that feature if you have the G+ app installed. I don't and the share option is missing, a friend has G+ installed and the option appears for him. Might need further confirmation... I really don't use G+ so I haven't seen the need to install it, barely use FB anyhow.
Would be nice to have the ability to change the theme of the UI, have different options. The orange/white layout is ok, but it's a bit too shocking. Bet some themers are already decompiling this thing and seeing if its possible to change it around :fingers-crossed:
I tested it with my car radio, Pioneer DEH-X9500BHS, with BT and sound output is really good. The display shows artist and track but it didn't show the track time, maybe in the next update.
So far, this is a keeper and good for the $9.99 but even better for the $7.99 introductory fee
Edit - Widget should have dislike or thumbs down button, only has thumbs up...
But all in all this is a great for a new service launch!
Only downside so far is the lack of sd card ability. No problem on my GS3, bit on my kids' Conquers, not so great.
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Only downside so far is the lack of sd card ability. No problem on my GS3, bit on my kids' Conquers, not so great.
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Okay, spoke a little too soon. The ui and functionality for one wanting music "pinned" for off-line listening is not very intuitive. The download speeds are atrocious, which I see has been a Play Music issue for a while. No way to cancel pinning/downloading, and apart from clearing app data, I don't see a way to remove tracks from the phone.
I love the sound quality and the equalizer over Rhapsody. I love having the ability to download to more than 3 devices. I hope that they do some improving during this trial phase, because I like the sound and the principle. Even Rhapsody responding to the competition and improving would be terrific.
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This sounds sick! But my cheap ass is using Pandora lol.. $9.99 isn't bad though.
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Black Pandora is totally free. No commercials and unlimited skips. Just sign in w ur normal Pandora account n all ur channels are there. Pm me for a link.
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Okay, spoke a little too soon. The ui and functionality for one wanting music "pinned" for off-line listening is not very intuitive. The download speeds are atrocious, which I see has been a Play Music issue for a while. No way to cancel pinning/downloading, and apart from clearing app data, I don't see a way to remove tracks from the phone.
I love the sound quality and the equalizer over Rhapsody. I love having the ability to download to more than 3 devices. I hope that they do some improving during this trial phase, because I like the sound and the principle. Even Rhapsody responding to the competition and improving would be terrific.
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I'm downloading a few pinned songs now, very slow indeed!
As for deleting them, there is a clear cache option in settings but my assumption is that it'll delete all the songs you've downloaded or cached during playback. There is an unpin option if you tap the bottom left of the song tile (horizontal ...), try that and see if it removed that particular track. I'll give all that a shot when it finishes downloading, at this rate it'll be tomorrow morning
Nothing but f/c's for me. And it's atrociously ugly. Google effed this app up. Back to the previous version for me... orange and white, what is google thinking? The new gtalk- hangouts is even worse...
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The new Maps is very buggy and missing a lot of features i use. (not talkin about Latitude. i don't use that)
edit:
Maps (old layout) 6.14.4
http://www.sendspace.com/file/pjsv96
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The new Maps is very buggy and missing a lot of features i use. (not talkin about Latitude. i don't use that)
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I dont have it off hand, but just download any rom older than a few weeks and extract it from system/app. Just make sure the play store isnt set to auto update your apps though
i've been running liquid smooth and it didn't come with maps apk in the rom, I had always downloaded it from the play store...
I would really like the apk for maps as well
Go to team blackout's website. They have an inverted version.
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Or just Google "Google maps apk" I'm sure an older version will show up.
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Is the new one THAT bad? What do y'all think?
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I've got a pretty recent one. I'll try to remember to post it when I get home.
A lot of people have had several issues with this latest update. Google was forced to revert at least one change within a couple days of its release.
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Maps 6.14.3
Here you go. Google Maps 6.14.3. Pulled from the latest T999V update released a week or so ago. Extract it first!
Lieu10ant said:
The new Maps is very buggy and missing a lot of features i use. (not talkin about Latitude. i don't use that)
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Agree bro..
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Just go in to settings> application manager> all tab> Google maps then uninstall update
So simple...
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yeah. that option isn't available on my phone.
my sister hated the new update, but the "uninstall updates" WAS available on her phone. wonder why it's not avail on my phone.
but anyways, thank you SO MUCH for the link!
most roms don't come with google based apps, they all use the "gapps"
Edit: found a newer version. i think this was the most recent version before the new layout
6.14.4
http://www.sendspace.com/file/pjsv96
oh how beautiful the UI looks. thank god i have it back.
Fyi guys, someone around here said google released another update that fixed a lot of issues people had. Cant remember who or where, but figured I'd mention it.
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I uninstalled it completely ..and refused the update. The new update was very buggy and seem to constantly send data back . But just the fact that a force feed us this version pissed me off . One of there main things Google did was removing Latitude (as of Aug. 1st ) . Which I used a lot to keep track of my kids and family, the technology is still there but can only be used on Google Hangout (very buggy). But who really knows why it is they do this things like this...Just buggy.
I have just reverted it on the desktop as well, such a relieve to have the old stuff back.... at least while they let us.
I came looking here to revert the phone apk (blackout is the easy way and awesome). Google messed up sooo bad on this one. Like I search for a chain, and it shows me them one at a time with me having to swipe through them (in seemingly random order as some are up to 40mi away sandwiched in between others that are 2-4mi away, and the one that is only 0.7mi away is 10 swipes away). The old maps just shows you a map with YOU in the center and pins for the 10 results closest to you. When I am "on-the-go" why would I want to instead have the map of the first result you choose at random, which may or may not include my location, and then have to swipe through results while I mentally figure out where each one is in relation to me??? It is just ludicrous! The new maps may be great for casual browsing at home, but I use maps for location-based productivity, there are plenty of other apps for Where should I go / eat / buy. Make the new Maps for tablets and leave my phone and desktop Maps alone (or make them more productive, not less!!!)
Other examples of failure:
- I tell it to navigate somewhere and it shows me a full screen route-list, even if there is only one. Then, after I select that route I want, it shows me that route and I have to click Go before the navigation actually begins. The old version: I instantly get navigation and can choose alternate routes if I want. The new version is dangerous to use while driving. The old one is 100% hands free. WTF Google?
- You used to be able to use Google Now to say "Map of ..." or "Navigate to ..." which does not work correctly anymore.
Have you reported all of this to google?
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Have you reported all of this to google?
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Yes, through multiple different PCs/Apps. I just did a survey they sent to me for switching from New to Old on Desktop.
Cool, hopefully enough people will complain and they will fix it.
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Cool, hopefully enough people will complain and they will fix it.
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I'd like to see that, but I doubt it. Likely they'll look at us and ask why we havn't updated our phones.
Really wanted to thank the folks on here who pulled the APK, Maps 7 just doesn't work at all on my EVO 3D, it flickers, the prompts are scrambled, it can only function in landscape mode... this is on top of the, slower, feature hidden, beauty update nonsense. So thanks again.
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I've played beta games with less bugs than this ****e.
I have the old Maps, and I've tried multiple copies of Google Now, but still when I say "Navigate to Target" it shows me Google results for that search instead of opening Navigation and auto routing to the nearest Target.
I really, really miss "Map of [...]" and "Navigate to [...]". I want to be able to do this from google now which is always one button away, not have to open the map program first, click search, then click mic, then say "Target", then click the nearest one, then click navigate. (at least it is not 4 more steps anymore like it was with the new maps)
Please, can someone figure out how to get this simple command working as it used to?
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Edit: Nevermind I guess... mine just started working again. I complained here and in one other thread, then I tried "Navigate to Texas" as I was going to post a screen shot of how that same search that worked for another didn't work for me, and to my surprise it worked. Now it is working every time just how it used to. Very strange. I swear it was not working for me from like 2 months ago until 30min ago. I'm just glad it is back.
Let me make this clear, this thread is not about getting rid of Google services but google play services....
Being a GNEX user we have cherished so many updates from 4.0.1 to 4.4.4, courtesy of some gr8 devs and teams. Every update gave us the courage to give a sarcastic look at some of the flagships still lagging behing, but deep down inside every power GNEX user knew that those updates aren't making the phone better simply bcoz its not designed for it.It all started with the arrival of brutal "Google Play Services".
TBH we all got scroogled however we are not ashamed of it coz if a service is good then there is no point in not using it, but the experience we get across different devices creates a different opinion about the entire service and thats what happened with play services..
Taking google play services out of ur phone gives u hell a lot of advantage but the right alternatives. I decided to take it out of my GNEX and now i am one of the Happiest men on the planet who uses open source apps wherever possible.
I am about to list the alternatives i used and the experience i got....
I am a LiquidSmooth or Vanir user combined with the dirtyness of DirtyV kernel, F2FS, ART, xlouder patch...
Market : Since i dont flash Gapps no Play Store but FDROID is gr8, clean and simple. For apps unavailable at FDROID i use APKLEECHER
Browser : Of course Firefox and Lightning browser both available in FDROID. I use firefox for some impt. stuffs like mobile banking, etc and lightning browser for daily browsing that includes social networks fb, g+.
Music Player : Ur choice but i am a huge lover of Noozy. :angel:
Video Player :VLC available at FDROID :highfive:
Office Apps : Office Mobile, Microsoft does a gr8 job there.
Email Client : AOSP or K-9 mail available at FDROID
Proxy : Obviously Orbot by Guardian Projects available at FDROID
IM Clients : It was easy for me since most of my friends dont use Hangouts but whatsapp...pls for the sweet love of god please try Telegram available at FDROID. It got encryption too and open source. I am working on migrating my friends to Telegram. Also i do use ChatSecure available at FDROID for my gtalk and facebook accounts chat... :fingers-crossed:
Now comes the most impt part,
Cloud,Contacts and Cal Syncs : This is the hardest part u can come across, i had my solution OWNCLOUD
i have a raspberry pi and i turned it to an OWNCLOUD server, easiest way is to Check out ARKOS if u have a rpi or beaglebone black. With that OWNCLOUD i can instantly upload photos, videos just like g+ and also using an app DAVDROID at FDROID u can sync ur calender and contacts to ur Mobile. :good:
Maps : I use OsmAnd which is an ON/Offline maps app where u can download data to ur phone. Its pretty decent for finding directions but dont expect the sophistications of GMAPS, btw i m happy with OSMAND but at some situations i do use maps.google.com at firefox. :victory:
Youtube : Viral Lite downloaded with apkleecher.com...much better than Youtube. :cyclops:
Search : DuckDuckGo available at FDROID. Google Now will be one huge feature u got to sacrifice
Any free apps can be downloaded from apkleecher.com.
Btw regarding the updates : FDROID apps can be updated easily but others, yeah i know thats pain in the ass but thats a sacrifice you got to make to get rid of play services.
After these things i got a fluid phone with extra 45mins of SOT on maguro..
THE DRAWBACKS : In the recently concluded GOOGLE I/O, google nailed the fragmentation issue by announcing that from now on all security patches will reach via Google play services which enables to secure even 2.3 devices.
However those updates will definitely added to the AOSP branch which our beloved DEVS will make use of
please comment if u have any ques and try getting rid of play services and have fun......
Thanks for sharing this info. I'm going to follow your instructions. I'd like to see a "new system" by replacing all the pieces
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....but deep down inside every power GNEX user knew that those updates aren't making the phone better simply bcoz its not designed for it. It all started with the arrival of brutal "Google Play Services"....
....After these things i got a fluid phone with extra 45mins of SOT on maguro....
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Can you please explain in detail how exactly "those updates" aren't better?
Also would like more detail on what "fluid phone" means?
If your getting an extra 45 mins SOT, then what are the other details?
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-Total time between charging 100%-4%
-background data updates
-push email on/off
-BT/Wi-Fi/NFC on/off
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I'm running an 18 month old PA2.57 4.1.2 ROM, w/Zen kernel.
Nova homescreen weather/stock widgets auto update every 30 mins.
Auto app updates over data only, got unlimited plan so never use Wi-Fi.
Auto brightness on.
BT always on since it connects to car everyday streaming audio/calls for 30 mins.
Max. 2h SOT
Time between full charge 8-9h's.
Couple of texts/calls(max 10 daily)
25% gaming
75% browsing
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Thanks a lot for this man, so should we just delete phonesky apk from the zip and contacts and calendar sync and then just install fdroid and move on?
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I haven't been using gapps for a long while (I actually removed everything associated with google, except maps), and my battery life has improved dramatically. For anyone (like me) who really misses the play store, there's a great alternative, which has most of the apps from there and has a built-in updater, so your google play apps will be detected and updated. Here it is
isajoo said:
pvkiniyan95 said:
....but deep down inside every power GNEX user knew that those updates aren't making the phone better simply bcoz its not designed for it. It all started with the arrival of brutal "Google Play Services"....
....After these things i got a fluid phone with extra 45mins of SOT on maguro....
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Can you please explain in detail how exactly "those updates" aren't better?
Also would like more detail on what "fluid phone" means?
If your getting an extra 45 mins SOT, then what are the other details?
-Total SOT
-Total time between charging 100%-4%
-background data updates
-push email on/off
-BT/Wi-Fi/NFC on/off
-brightness level/auto
-type of usage pattern #/%'s for texts/calls/gaming/browsing
Eg.
I'm running an 18 month old PA2.57 4.1.2 ROM, w/Zen kernel.
Nova homescreen weather/stock widgets auto update every 30 mins.
Auto app updates over data only, got unlimited plan so never use Wi-Fi.
Auto brightness on.
BT always on since it connects to car everyday streaming audio/calls for 30 mins.
Max. 2h SOT
Time between full charge 8-9h's.
Couple of texts/calls(max 10 daily)
25% gaming
75% browsing
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TBH if u r using 18 month old rom then probably u r in a wrong place.
Sorry...
May be I can answer a few ques
If u have experienced KitKat on gnex then u would probably know about "those updates" "fluidity"
I m running Liquid smooth 3.1 and
WiFi always on and ocassional 3g (10 mins),NFC off, BT when needed, Location when needed, Sync always on, little phone calls like 15 mins, brightness I'll adjust manually always, I don't play games at all but I browse hell a lot, music 30mins, time between charges 10h and sot 2hrs max,
After those things now time between full charges even last a day and sot is 3hr
Edgarngg said:
Thanks a lot for this man, so should we just delete phonesky apk from the zip and contacts and calendar sync and then just install fdroid and move on?
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After flashing a rom don't flash gapps, install fdroid and u r good to go.....BTW I m talking only about KitKat ROMs...
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pvkiniyan95 said:
isajoo said:
TBH if u r using 18 month old rom then probably u r in a wrong place.
Sorry...
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Is that really all you took from my post?
I've tested every single ROM and the ONLY one that runs "fluid" like for me WITH Google services is the 18 month old ROM.
LOL
Now could you try and answer my question, w/details?
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latenightchameleon said:
I haven't been using gapps for a long while (I actually removed everything associated with google, except maps), and my battery life has improved dramatically. For anyone (like me) who really misses the play store, there's a great alternative, which has most of the apps from there and has a built-in updater, so your google play apps will be detected and updated. Here it is
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There are lot of 3rd party stores like appbrain, 1mibile market as u mentioned, I tried it recently it's gud but there are few security issues when u use them. As I mentioned security patches are about to be sent through GPS, without them I won't trust any 3rd party app store except FDROID....BTW we r free to choose and I got to admit that 1mobile is pretty but I felt the laginess after few days, during app installs phone lagged heavily just like in play store..
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isajoo said:
pvkiniyan95 said:
Is that really all you took from my post?
I've tested every single ROM and the ONLY one that runs "fluid" like for me WITH Google services is the 18 month old ROM.
LOL
Now could you try and answer my question, w/details?
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Post edited, check it, hope I answered ur ques
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There are lot of 3rd party stores like appbrain, 1mibile market as u mentioned, I tried it recently it's gud but there are few security issues when u use them. As I mentioned security patches are about to be sent through GPS, without them I won't trust any 3rd party app store except FDROID....BTW we r free to choose and I got to admit that 1mobile is pretty but I felt the laginess after few days, during app installs phone lagged heavily just like in play store..
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Well, unlike the play store I can at least greenify 1mobile to prevent drain:good:
Anything is better than gapps
latenightchameleon said:
Well, unlike the play store I can at least greenify 1mobile to prevent drain:good:
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Yeah u could, If u are nightly flasher u r gud to go
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@pvkiniyan95 Buddy, I've been wanting to do this for so so long. Read a lot about it, but read that some games and apps need google services to work. I got a lot of games on my device, for my son. Did you encounter any app that wouldnt work?
Also, I've got a couple dedicated servers to my disposal. Can they be used to create my owncloud service?
I really am all geared up to do this.
Hetalk said:
@pvkiniyan95 Buddy, I've been wanting to do this for so so long. Read a lot about it, but read that some games and apps need google services to work. I got a lot of games on my device, for my son. Did you encounter any app that wouldnt work?
Also, I've got a couple dedicated servers to my disposal. Can they be used to create my owncloud service?
I really am all geared up to do this.
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honestly i dont play games at all in my gnex besides afaik Games dont depend upon google play services completely, they are just optional to store scores on cloud, i think games might work. Regarding owncloud, yes u could if u have a domain to, head over to owncloud.org and they have a good guide over there....:fingers-crossed:
Thanks for this!
Telegram is really fast and has no delay since it doesn't depend on Google cloud server. But on 1mobile there's a newer version of it. I guess that one drains more battery that the old one at fdroid. I really love it I think I'll tell my friends to migrate. But which version of it is better. It's kind of conflicting having fdroid and 1mobile at the same time
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Edgarngg said:
Telegram is really fast and has no delay since it doesn't depend on Google cloud server. But on 1mobile there's a newer version of it. I guess that one drains more battery that the old one at fdroid. I really love it I think I'll tell my friends to migrate. But which version of it is better. It's kind of conflicting having fdroid and 1mobile at the same time
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I don't trust 1mobile, I'll suggest to go with fdroid one
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I don't trust 1mobile, I'll suggest to go with fdroid one
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In terms of security overall? So updating one by one checking on apkleecher would be the only option? Because fdroid only detects some of the apps. My battery has improved though, so I think I might not go back to Google services maybe until I get a new phone with larger battery. And even then I'll give it a second thought
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In terms of security overall? So updating one by one checking on apkleecher would be the only option? Because fdroid only detects some of the apps. My battery has improved though, so I think I might not go back to Google services maybe until I get a new phone with larger battery. And even then I'll give it a second thought
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I am mostly trying to move to open source apps, also u can use the apps without updating as long as we want coz they will be stable and work well...nowadays most of the apps notify u when there is an update, spend a few mins in the weekend to update them...technically I felt 1mobile is just another Google play service coz they all work with Google analytics ads etc etc etc....choice is urs
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I didn't know there were that many people who didn't like running gapps. I don't really have any issue using gapps and google play, but it's nice to know there are other options out there. Thanks for sharing this.
Is not that we don't like them. Is what they do to our battery what we don't like.
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I haven't been able to sync my contacts to owncloud. Can you point me to a good tutorial on how to do that. Also jabber account. It's all new to me
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