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2000mah spare battery for htc touch pro 2 sprint perfect fit

Saw this on ebay. Is this possible? perfect fit and 2000mah or bs?

I have not seen it myself, however I know that I am prolly going to order the one that verizon offers when I order my phone tomarrow. The one they sell is 2100 MAH but it comes with a bigger back cover, but doesnt look that bad for $49.99.

http://www.seidioonline.com/category-s/3593.htm

weapon007 said:
Saw this on ebay. Is this possible? perfect fit and 2000mah or bs?
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Chemically impossible. The best lithium polymer battery provides around .4 watt-hours per cubic centimeter. These batteries appear to be Lithium Ion though, given they have a labeled voltage of 3.7 (unless they internally transform the voltage up to 3.7), so 2000mah is even more impossible given lithium ion batteries in the lab achieve at best .5 watt hours per cubic cm. That 2000mah battery would have to have an energy density of .52 watt hours per cubic cm!
It either would be poking out of your phone and not fit with the normal back, or it isn't actually 2000mah.

Mugen Power Battery for HTC Touch Pro 2 even have more than 3000mAh, so why not?

Adams888 said:
Mugen Power Battery for HTC Touch Pro 2 even have more than 3000mAh, so why not?
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Because they are physically larger. You can make a higher capacity battery, but you can't have a high capacity battery in the same form factor as the original battery that exceeds the ~1800mah because it is simply not possible (barring some new advance in battery technology).

cidgrascra said:
I don't know if this is the right forum to post this question but here we go...
I have a Wizard (HTC Qtek A9100) Smartphone with ROM Hornet Manilla 4.5 upgraded on December 2008.
Everything is working well except my Deluo Bluetooth GPS.
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Yup wrong spot. Maybe you should have posted in the Wizard section or where you got that ROM.

[Q] Toke my HOX apart, need internal HI-CAPACITY battery

Hello All,
I toke my HTC One X apart to replace the internal battery with a higher capacity one, as i've tried all the methods listed here to enhance my battery life, but it failed to survive a 12 hours idling - it seems that HTC forgot that the user might use his phone through the day -
anyway, i'm looking for an "INTERNAL" and "HIGHER-CAPACITY" like 2100mAh, 2400mAh battery to replace my 1800 mAh one, any suggestions please?

I don't believe that there is a higher capacity internal battery for the HOX. From what I've read on here is that any higher capacity battery would require the a bigger case for it. Just by opening it up you have now voided your warranty, and any third party manufacturer would not make you void your warranty to increase battery capacity. Your only option is to buy the cases that utilize the pogo pins to increase your battery

thanks for your reply teky, actually i dont care about the warranty, but i believe i can find a higher capacity battery as the iPhone one, i've bought a 2300 mAh from ebay for my old iphone and it was at the same size as its original one, the performance was amazing, it lasted about 2 days with a heavy usage.

Hossam.Abdelsalam said:
thanks for your reply teky, actually i dont care about the warranty, but i believe i can find a higher capacity battery as the iPhone one, i've bought a 2300 mAh from ebay for my old iphone and it was at the same size as its original one, the performance was amazing, it lasted about 2 days with a heavy usage.
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likeliness is, if it wasn't physically bigger, then the mah was no more than the original. probably the fact that the first battery was knackered and just buying a new one seemed like it was lasting longer, when in fact it wasn't lasting any longer than a new original battery..

btw, the battery in the 1x is soft...gg, how were u planning on replacing it.
sent from my Viper Bitten One X

i need too an hi-capacity battery, but...is simply to remove the internal battery?

Be careful... A design flaw in the custom battery may cause it to explode.

Every battery I've read about online that promised higher capacity for the same size proved to be a fraud. The best story I saw was posted on the xda-dev forums. The user cut off the outer packaging of the battery to reveal the original battery inside, and printed on this was the real (much lower) capacity.
I don't know much about battery tech :silly:, as I'm about to prove but ... I believe it's basically a chemical reaction that releases power (and the reaction is revered when charging). The capacity of the battery is related to the volume of material available for the reaction, so basically physics is against us on this one.
If it seems too good to be true, it is. If technology were available to produce safe, cheap batteries, of the same size with a higher capacity, why doesn't a single large reputable manufacturer produce what would obviously be a lucrative accessory?

Are we not missing the point that his phone can't do 12 hours idling? My wife's currently very under used one x has managed 7 days and 10 hours from a single charge with 3g on almost zero screen on so true idle.
My used one x can easily make 2days of what I class as moderate use.
There must be some software issue or as Vodafone in Perth did a misconfigured network stopping 3g from going idle and sucking the battery dry.
Cheers
Steve

you can use the battery of the hox+ and get an extra 300mAh ...
but am going to take the batt of my spare one x and see if the battery of the htc butterfly s would fit... you get like an extra 1200mAh
hope it does....

Salim.Keady said:
you can use the battery of the hox+ and get an extra 300mAh ...
but am going to take the batt of my spare one x and see if the battery of the htc butterfly s would fit... you get like an extra 1200mAh
hope it does....
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Please make a thread about that, even if it doesn't fit. Battery life on my HOX is crippling, hardly get 2 hours screen time.

jaw2floor said:
Please make a thread about that, even if it doesn't fit. Battery life on my HOX is crippling, hardly get 2 hours screen time.
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Same here man but am currently busy with exams to see into this...
For now am using a cover battery 2200mah
And check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=258680.
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HTC Desire Original battery vs Cameron Sino 2400 vs Bilitong 1650

The opinions below are based on my experience, training and the tests I carried out on the purchased batteries. I am not affiliated to or employed by any battery or phone manufacturer.
I will be happy to retest and add to this report should any supplier or manufacturer believe that I have tested faulty items and are prepared to supply me with another/others to test. The additional information will be added honestly however it tests.
Tests based on a rooted and optimised version of the official 2.3 build of the HTC desire with a standard htc desire 1A charger.
Utilities used included:
Battery monitor widget pro
Antutu battery test
The reference battery is a two year old original HTC battery which is well used but still in very good condition. Capacity reasonably tested and calculated at around 1180 - 1250mAh of the original rated 1400mAh. Given normal projected losses for li-ion batteries this seemed high for a 18-24 month old battery but as other ratings are relative to this, the other estimates should be equally on the high side if anything.
A took great care to fully charge/cycle the new batteries as described by the sellers, and did a full calibrating charge cycle on the original before rating it. Battery stats were cleared for testing as each battery was tested.
Various tests were carried out including using battery monitor widget pro to analyse any different usage/performance and estimate power of each battery in addition to using original as benchmark.
SUMMARY RESULTS (mAh accuracy expected to be +/- 15%)
Antutu test scores. Note these do not define a power rating, only relative benchmarks on the same phone in the same situation. The capacities stated result from the tests with battery monitor widget pro and compared to the confident rating of the original.
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2 year old original HTC battery claimed 1400mAh - tested 495 (approx 1200mAh)
New Cameron Sino (in loose packaging) claimed 2400mAh - tested 773 (approx 1900mAh)
New Bilitong gold in original packaging claimed 1650mAh - tested 356 (approx 850mAh)
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The Good
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The Cameron Sino tested is the first chinese battery I have tested which actually gives more (around 50% more) capacity than the good condition 2 year old original. This equates to somewhere between 1800-2000mAh for this battery. This does result in testing to a 50% longer phone life in the same use.
Its available very cheap
The large case back needed by these large batteries and as supplied by the Amazon seller is a good fit, seems good quality. Although effectively doubles the thickness of the phone is easy to hold unlike the reports of some no brand large batteries and larger covers with 'quick break' clips. It actually seems easier to hold to me than in the phones 'skinny' form. It of course feels significantly heavier.
The Bad - some seem very serious
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There is some impact on the quality of pictures taken by the deep recessed slots the pictures and flash have to pass through.
The large battery does seem to move some with a bit of a clunck felt which should be easily addressable with a small cushion pad added to the inside of the case.
The Cameron Sino battery I tested (like the bilitongs) does not seem to have proper (or at least working) control and protection electronics, in that neither the voltage or the battery temperature is correctly reported to the phone. Both report a fixed voltage of 3923mV and a relatively fixed 24.x temperature even when the phone is noticeably hot to the touch.
Both the Cameron Sino and the Bilitongs seem unwilling to report a 100% charge. Both stick at 99% although I have seen 100% on the Cameron Sino once, which may have been a very minor phone calibration error rather than the battery actually reporting 100%.
Both the Cameron Sino and Bilitong batteries demonstrated erratic battery % left (which is all they really reported) sometimes going back up significantly after being in light use and often dropping very sharply in reasonable use (wifi and browsing with bright screen).
The original did not do this to any noticeable level, always showing consistent and accurate % remaining, and as the original also reported accurately full range battery voltage and temperature, so is in a vastly higher league in its status reporting and presumably safety.
It seems to me that in both the Cameron Sino and Billitong batteries, the proper control and protection circuitry is replaced by a something akin to a simple resistor/diode type setup which is just enough to fool the phone into actually using these batteries rather than reject them as faulty as would occur if there was nothing on these circuits.
Its worthy of note that the standbye/self-discharge rate on the none-original batteries (all) is actually higher than the original with full protection circuitry - adding to the view that there are something like low quality resistors replacing the control circuitry.
This means that I cant see how any any over or under voltage or over temperature protection is done with the 'compatible' batteries potentially increasing the risk of damage to the phone.
The Ugly?
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Ok with the Cameron Sino its twice as thick and a fair bit heavier. But I don't see this as a great issue. It sits nicer in the hand in my view and I'm Less likely to loose it by dropping it un-noticed.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
So my personal views in summary.
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Based on the one I received, the Cameron Sino will give 50% better capacity than a good condition 2 year old original.
Presumably the gains would be significantly less over a new original HTC battery, and more over a worn out original.
Beware of the apparent lack of protection and control, the increased weight/size and possible camera problems.
If you are using the standard phone software, you could get much better increases by installing one of the optimised versions of the HTC builds available freely from the developer forums. I gained over 50% on the usable life per charge just from installing one of these, and ensuring things like gps and wifi were switched off unless I needed them. (at the touch of an icon).
Even if you don't do this, the latest official HTC 'radio reportedly improves power use significantly over older versions.
*** Do any of these at your own risk and after properly investigating the options.
Finally, I would strongly suggest you completely avoid the Bilitong batteries just as much as the unbranded chinese batteries, which in my experience are unlikely to give much better than 850mAh (whatever they claim) when new and very quickly fade, let alone the apparent lack of proper control and protection electronics (seemingly shared by the Cameron Sino).

Gonna amend the overall view with the following:
As the Cameron battery had 2-3 times the standby/low use drain of the original battery resulting in far more battery drain overnight and when the phone is simply being carried around, the extended capacity would be of far less use to those looking for extra days of light use between charges, and would only be really effective for extending heavy use in a single day.
I have already gone back to using the old original battery.
Possibly use one of the crappy Bilitongs when using GPS in the car in a windscreen cradle as the phone can get quite hot there and I want to minimise hot use of the good battery.

Bigger battery

Anybody can think of a battery that has more mah but same physical size as the one this device currently rocks? Would be awesome if we could fit the battery of the latest moto device but I believe that one is thinner.
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Swapping batteries in from other devices is a bad idea... Not only are they not likely to fit inside the case (check out some teardowns of the OP3) but the dash charge is calibrated for your battery, not for some other battery. Putting in a different capacity battery can cause some pretty hefty damage... Do some research into battery tech, these batteries generally have as much power capacity as physically possible based on the battery chemistry, you won't find a (legit) battery with a higher capacity of the same dimensions.
Remember those hoverboards that seemed to spontaneously ignite at random? more often than not it was due to poor wiring, faulty batteries, or being charged / discharged at a rate greater than what was designed for.
Give it a couple weeks / months I'm sure there will be a battery case developed for the OP3 but with how quickly this phone charges its designed to be topped up semi-regularly instead of charged once and run all day (or multiple days).
I've heard people say they are on transit for long periods of time and don't have access to a outlet, try looking for a battery bank to charge your phone if you feel the need...
And yeah, I wish they made the phone just a LITTLE thicker and put a larger battery in it. Really, I don't need a phone thin as a pancake, it could have been the same size as the OP2, ONE extra millimeter could fit more power, removed the silly "camera bump", and not impacted feel or ergonomics in any meaningful way.

6000mah Battery for Mate 20X legit?

Saw this aftermarket 6000mah battery for the 20X on aliexpress, good reviews all round (one review says it's 7500mah). Has anyone tried this? If so how was the installation process?
5000mah already lasts me 2-4 days but 6000mah would be really handy during heavy use days.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33047747490.html

Vicxx said:
Saw this aftermarket 6000mah battery for the 20X on aliexpress, good reviews all round (one review says it's 7500mah). Has anyone tried this? If so how was the installation process?
5000mah already lasts me 2-4 days but 6000mah would be really handy during heavy use days.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33047747490.html
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Here you go. The 1st link is a video teardown and the 2nd is a guide. You will need to apply some heat to open the cover. But a blow dryer may suffice. Buy T7000 glue to glue the cover back on. Its a very simple removal, not hard at all.
Huawei Mate 20 X Teardown
More power, more screen, more battery, more...
www.ifixit.com
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Vicxx said:
Saw this aftermarket 6000mah battery for the 20X on aliexpress, good reviews all round (one review says it's 7500mah). Has anyone tried this? If so how was the installation process?
5000mah already lasts me 2-4 days but 6000mah would be really handy during heavy use days.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33047747490.html
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it is fake

PhoneTechShop said:
it is fake
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How do you know? have you tried it?

Vicxx said:
How do you know? have you tried it?
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No these chinese companies trying lie to sell ... not just with these batteries but any other.. just peel of their label and u will see original 5000 huawei battery

I know some of them do lie but you can't go around saying ALL chinese companies and sellers are frauds. If you're going around making unsubstantiated claims with not even a shred of evidence no one will ever take you seriously again, at least not me.

Vicxx said:
I know some of them do lie but you can't go around saying ALL chinese companies and sellers are frauds. If you're going around making unsubstantiated claims with not even a shred of evidence no one will ever take you seriously again, at least not me.
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Is the battery bigger or thicker than orig ? u cannot make bigger mAh and keeping same size man think.com ...
download an app which detects battery capacity and let me know who was right ...
Or let me know how longer will phone last from charge than with original
Edit : I attached picture from your link and they claiming in description ''above 5000mAh'' How can you be so naive??
And 7000 ?? yeah right ... keep dreaming..
And one Russian (with bad english) left only 3 stars s the battery apparently is not any good .. Didn't understand quite what he was saying.. But 3 stars says it all

to be fair its not all just about size, there is a thing such as energy density, which is actually the most important factor in a battery's design
in general, i would advise caution when buying non-original batteries. at the same time, higher capacity in the same form factor is totally inside the realm of possibility.

jbmc83 said:
to be fair its not all just about size, there is a thing such as energy density, which is actually the most important factor in a battery's design
in general, i would advise caution when buying non-original batteries. at the same time, higher capacity in the same form factor is totally inside the realm of possibility.
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As I know about batteries. Li-ion batteries has best density
Speaking of cell density batteries there would have to be new design and new technology.
For more battery cells you obviously need larger battery ! THAT'S WHY Mate 20 X / Honor Note 10 battery is the largest from all.
Battery Size
Although higher-capacity batteries generally last longer than lower-capacity ones, they are not always suitable for use in every device. To achieve a higher capacity, battery makers often have to fit more cells into each battery. Cells are the parts of a battery in which the chemical reaction needed to generate electricity happens. Increasing a battery's cell count can in turn increase both the size and weight of the battery, making it unsuitable for use in slimline devices such as smaller cell phones and netbooks. The temperature and speed of electrical current discharge affects the overall capacity of the battery. Poorly made batteries often heat up too quickly resulting in performance issues or degraded capacity.
To calculate a battery's life, divide the capacity of the battery by the current required by the object it powers. For example, imagine that you have two batteries for your cell phone, one with a capacity of 1000 mAh and one with a capacity of 2000 mAh, and that your phone requires a current of 200 mA to function. The first battery would power the phone for five hours, as 1000 divided by 200 equals five. But the second battery would power the phone for ten hours, as it has double the capacity of the first. While a larger number indicates battery power, larger mAh batteries may not be better if it is a poor quality battery. It simply means it can store more power.
Cell phone battery life is heavily dependent on the way in which you use the phone. The more features you run at the same time on your phone, the more current your phone requires and the quicker the battery's capacity drains. This is why using WiFi or running complex games on your phone drains the battery quickly. As such, a battery with a high capacity that is used to power a smartphone might last for less time than a low-capacity battery that powers a basic device.