Related
Can someone please explain what's the difference between HD and Z Roms ported to the Desire? I know that the Z Roms come from the Desire Z that have the physical keyboard, but what's the advantage when porting to the Desire which doesn't have a keyboard? Why not just stick with the HD roms?
Z ROM ports are rotating with the screen (on the Home screen, too), while DHD ports not (however with a little work they can rotate, too).
Additionally fontsize is smaller on HD ROMs - so more infos fit on screen (i prefer this). Don't think there are any "real" big differences in functionality though.
Well, thx for the explanation. It quite confusing at first for me too...
since Z has 800 MHz Scorpion processor, therefore its rom might be optimized for being used on lower clock speeds
I am from India,I am about to purchase Wildfire but just saw a new mobile from Htc called Wildfire S launched along with Desire S.So I just wanted to confirm is their any difference in 2 phones?
Currently I'm with HTC Gene since last 3 years and now really want to upgrade. Will Wildfire be a good option? I read that both having same resolution but will it affect? also is there any phone from HTC in same budget having "front camera"?
I shall be highly obliged if I get any response from you guys!
Regards,
Adi
adwaitk007 the main differences between "our" wildfire and the S are the higher screen resolution and the slightly faster processor. Both of these are very good reasons to buy the S since the "old" wildfire does have a problem there.
However.... For its price there are really good phones out there offering way more than the wildfire S. I dont know which phones are available in india or if you're restricted by a certain carrier but it would be best to make a list of phones around the pricerange of the wildfire and compare their specs against each other. Once you get down to a couple of devices search these forums for problems and or advantages of each device... If you still end up wanting a wildfire... Go for the S
wildfire S just like Aria in wildfire case. Of course, with new sense.
You may want to survey about rooting phone with new hboot if u plan to root it later.
Wildfire versus Wildfire S
Hi. I have been wondering what the main difference is between the Wildfire and Wildfire S too. I have a Wildfire and am based in the UK, not sure whether to upgrade to the new phone.
heavenlyandroid said:
Hi. I have been wondering what the main difference is between the Wildfire and Wildfire S too. I have a Wildfire and am based in the UK, not sure whether to upgrade to the new phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi! nice to here from you. I am also planning to buy Wildfire. i just wanted to know if it's a cool phone or not? the reviews at HTC portal pleased me but still wanted to confirm if it works as they mentioned or not! Also wanted to know about the apps,themes,games,such things. whether they are available in good verity? Because I heard that the phone has low resolution so the apps will be less in numbers!
Your reply will surly help me! And yes still wondering about the difference between "S"
Friends i am also a user of wildfire but i would strictly advice you to go for Samsung galaxy ace which is available at the same cost and is really worth every penny u spend and can also be rooted has froyo out of box and is expected to get gingerbread love. has 800Mhz CPU with a adreno gpu so graphics is no problem. and even the screen resolution is HVGA definitely better than wildfire. I wish i had waited for one more month then i could have got this better phone..the only advantage wildfire enjoys is sense interface and nothing else. Had purchased this wildfire in january so cant update right now...but if had the opputunity i would have definately gone for Ace. Both phones are currently available in India within price range of Rs. 13500-15000 Hit thanks if you like my advice
adwaitk007 said:
Hi! nice to here from you. I am also planning to buy Wildfire. i just wanted to know if it's a cool phone or not? the reviews at HTC portal pleased me but still wanted to confirm if it works as they mentioned or not! Also wanted to know about the apps,themes,games,such things. whether they are available in good verity? Because I heard that the phone has low resolution so the apps will be less in numbers!
Your reply will surly help me! And yes still wondering about the difference between "S"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wait for the S. App / Game compatibility of the Wildfire is very less because of the QVGA Screen, so, half the apps doesn't show up at all. Also, there is no GPU in it, so, any intensive game won't work at all, or, will play like a slideshow.
Since the Wildfire S is close to release, and, fixes both the above deficiencies (It has a HVGA 480x320 Screen, a faster and newer MSM 7227 600 MHz CPU, and an Adreno 200 GPU (Which, incidentally, is the same as the one in the Desire)), it should certainly be worth waiting for it.
Sum up of differences between Wildfire and S for those that are still confused:
* Wildfire S is slightly smaller than the Wildfire, because, it does not have the optical trackpad.
* The resolution of the S if greater than the Wildfire. (480x320 vs 320x240)
* The CPU of the S is newer and faster (Qualcomm MSM 7227 at 600 MHz vs MSM 7225 at 528 MHz)
* The S has a GPU Chipset. (Qualcomm Adreno 200, Wildfire doesnt have one)
adwaitk007 said:
I am from India,I am about to purchase Wildfire but just saw a new mobile from Htc called Wildfire S launched along with Desire S.So I just wanted to confirm is their any difference in 2 phones?
Currently I'm with HTC Gene since last 3 years and now really want to upgrade. Will Wildfire be a good option? I read that both having same resolution but will it affect? also is there any phone from HTC in same budget having "front camera"?
I shall be highly obliged if I get any response from you guys!
Regards,
Adi
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hey newbie. do u know the process of rooting android phone. ROOTING and then INSTALLING CUSTOM RECOVERY makes users to boost their android phone performance with custom roms. i doubt u havent understood what i said.
first learn something about rooting and custom roms. or else u will regret for what u have done. wildfire and wildfire s and all the newer htc devices are having greater security on the bootloader which makes them almost impossible to root. what u r planning to purchase device comes under POOR ROOT category.
check this out. it helps u a lot.
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/root_friendly
3xeno said:
Wait for the S. App / Game compatibility of the Wildfire is very less because of the QVGA Screen, so, half the apps doesn't show up at all. Also, there is no GPU in it, so, any intensive game won't work at all, or, will play like a slideshow.
Since the Wildfire S is close to release, and, fixes both the above deficiencies (It has a HVGA 480x320 Screen, a faster and newer MSM 7227 600 MHz CPU, and an Adreno 200 GPU (Which, incidentally, is the same as the one in the Desire)), it should certainly be worth waiting for it.
Sum up of differences between Wildfire and S for those that are still confused:
* Wildfire S is slightly smaller than the Wildfire, because, it does not have the optical trackpad.
* The resolution of the S if greater than the Wildfire. (480x320 vs 320x240)
* The CPU of the S is newer and faster (Qualcomm MSM 7227 at 600 MHz vs MSM 7225 at 528 MHz)
* The S has a GPU Chipset. (Qualcomm Adreno 200, Wildfire doesnt have one)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
check out this gsmarena link of the original wildfire.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_wildfire-3337.php
it says that the original wildfire has adreno 200 GPU. it also says that the original wildfire has gorilla glass display.
i was checking the gsmarena website from past 2 years. regarding wildfire i was checking the specifications regularly. i can say confidentially that those 2 features adreno gpu and gorilla glass display were added later to the specifications in that website. can u explain the reason
and if u see this link below, u will be really shocked to see HTC GOOGLE NEXUS ONE getting a multi touch input method via firmware upgrade.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_google_nexus_one-3069.php
can someone explain those things
bharatgaddameedi said:
check out this gsmarena link of the original wildfire.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_wildfire-3337.php
it says that the original wildfire has adreno 200 GPU. it also says that the original wildfire has gorilla glass display.
i was checking the gsmarena website from past 2 years. regarding wildfire i was checking the specifications regularly. i can say confidentially that those 2 features adreno gpu and gorilla glass display were added later to the specifications in that website. can u explain the reason
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's wrong. That is the spec of the Wildfire S. If you check the Wildfire S at GSMArena, there is no mention of a GPU there. So, I believe they have mixed it up. Also, if HTC had added these 2 MAJOR features to the Wildfire at the end of its life, surely there would have been SOME official announcement from them.
If the Wildfire had an Adreno 200, it would be compatible with all 3D Games, and, even Non 3D Games like Angry Birds would run flawlessly on the Stock ROM, which obviously doesn't happen. Even Quadrant, a CPU and GPU Benchmark, fails on the Wildfire, which wouldn't happen if the Wildfire had a GPU.
Oh, and even the Xperia X10 received Multi Touch via a Firmware Update. The digitizer had the capabilities, but, somehow, these companies chose not to implement them. (In case of the X10, it was because of lack of support on Donut)
guys i want to buy the desire hd so i want to know that is every game and software willl run on DHD ????
is there screen resolution affect or not is there is the screen size matter on runiing application or game ???
i m asking this question because the DHD screen size bigger form other some devices
is there app or game for specific phone or the which is for android will run on all android phones
sorry for bad englis
thanks
Although the screen itself is bigger, resolution on dhd is 800x480 which is pretty much the standard for high end android phones and is supported by software and games developers
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Anything on the marketplace will work with the resolution of your DHD, however non-marketplace games will vary depending on the resolution.
Greetings to all! The other day there was news! In the network be leaked the new OFFICIAL ROM for the HTC Desire S based on Android 2.3.5 with HTC Sense 3.0. Accordingly, HTC Sense 3.0 does not need to optimize and change resolution... Are there any advantages in this for our wonderful HTC HD2?
Link to threat Desire S is HERE
I needed only RUU, no rom. Have you had it ? Thank you
dungphp said:
I needed only RUU, no rom. Have you had it ? Thank you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no we have only rom
but realy you cant use this?
LENINred said:
no we have only rom
but realy you cant use this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We can use it but better if we have RUU file, because it's stock file so Sir dungphp can port directly from it, don't need permission from anyone.
so mabe start do this guys))
Link
Sure you guys are quicker than me in finding stuff, but, here you go anyway:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
my bad, not the same rom, sorry, lol.
this looks very impressive I found some packages by myself and I am downloading now. will see what can we do with it
Daekin said:
this looks very impressive I found some packages by myself and I am downloading now. will see what can we do with it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good deal, look forward to seeing what comes of it.
Sorry, I may be missing something but apart from a 5mp camera, 400MB less ROM and a smaller screen, isn't the Desire S very similar in hardware to the DHD?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3776&idPhone2=3468
Tigermoto said:
Sorry, I may be missing something but apart from a 5mp camera, 400MB less ROM and a smaller screen, isn't the Desire S very similar in hardware to the DHD?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3776&idPhone2=3468
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes it is...just like original Desire was to HD2....
Desire, HD2 - 1st generation Scorpion CPU
Desire HD, Incredible S, Desire S - 2nd generation Scorpion CPU
Sensation - 3rd generation (1st dualcore)
Daekin said:
yes it is...just like original Desire was to HD2....
Desire, HD2 - 1st generation Scorpion CPU
Desire HD, Incredible S, Desire S - 2nd generation Scorpion CPU
Sensation - 3rd generation (1st dualcore)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So, pardon my ignorance but how will this help us?
I don't mean to annoy anyone but if i don't ask i can't learn.
Tigermoto said:
So, pardon my ignorance but how will this help us?
I don't mean to annoy anyone but if i don't ask i can't learn.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
there are many ROMs from other devices ported successfully (including Desire S, Desire HD, Sensation,...)
this one is interesting because it is sense 3 like sensation, BUT it is properly sized for WVGA resolution!
then it is important that it is newest android 2.3.5 build.
some things like camera and glithes will probably not be fixed with porting this, but we will have pretty decent ROM with all newest features.
Daekin said:
there are many ROMs from other devices ported successfully (including Desire S, Desire HD, Sensation,...)
this one is interesting because it is sense 3 like sensation, BUT it is properly sized for WVGA resolution!
then it is important that it is newest android 2.3.5 build.
some things like camera and glithes will probably not be fixed with porting this, but we will have pretty decent ROM with all newest features.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Appreciate the information, thanks button pressed.
No further questions your honour.
Daekin said:
yes it is...just like original Desire was to HD2....
Desire, HD2 - 1st generation Scorpion CPU
Desire HD, Incredible S, Desire S - 2nd generation Scorpion CPU
Sensation - 3rd generation (1st dualcore)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I though it was snapdragon, not scorpion.
Clom801 said:
I though it was snapdragon, not scorpion.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
Daekin said:
yes it is...just like original Desire was to HD2....
Desire, HD2 - 1st generation Scorpion CPU
Desire HD, Incredible S, Desire S - 2nd generation Scorpion CPU
Sensation - 3rd generation (1st dualcore)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hmm... its snapdragon -)))
The Snapdragon application processor core, dubbed Scorpion, is Qualcomm's own design
Is it possible to flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230029 this rom to HD2?
Or can some1 please point me in the right direction. I want a Android 2.3.5 with Sense 3.0 rom (Dutch or multilanguage) for the HTC HD2.
Thanks in advance.
SlayrNeo said:
Is it possible to flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230029 this rom to HD2?
Or can some1 please point me in the right direction. I want a Android 2.3.5 with Sense 3.0 rom (Dutch or multilanguage) for the HTC HD2.
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope you cannot flash a Desire S ROM to your HD2, that would never work. The ROM would need to be ported for our device first. I would imagine that someone is working on porting this for us...but we will need to wait and see...or start porting it ourselves.
pixine786 said:
The Snapdragon application processor core, dubbed Scorpion, is Qualcomm's own design
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't be confused by Wiki.
Snapdragon CPU includes two processors, one is application processor and another is modem processor.
When we talk about the whole CPU, I think the name Snapdragon is more proper than Scorpion.
Source: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Android/Qualcomm/MsmChipsets
Most HTC devices have at their core Qualcomm System-on-Chip (SoC) Mobile Station Modem (MSM) integrated circuits. These are based on Advanced RISC Machines Ltd. (ARM) micro-processor and supporting systems designs. In most Smart Phone devices the SoC consists of two ARM micro-processors, one to manage the communications hardware (radio transmitters) and the other to manage the user applications and interface. These are generally known as the modem (or radio or baseband) processor and the applications (or apps) processor. These processors may not be identical since their functions are different.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Source: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Android/Qualcomm/ProcComm
Processor Communications (an implementation of Inter Processor Communications - IPC) on Qualcomm System-on-Chip devices that have a privileged modem (a.k.a. baseband or radio) processor and less privileged applications processor is via shared memory and interrupts.
Devices based on the Qualcomm MSM and QSD SoC designs also use the Qualcomm-provided modem operating system REX and the Advanced Mobile Subscriber Service (AMSS) application running on the privileged processor - usually an ARM9 design.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have my HTC Wildfire S A510e with the last Android 2.3.5 (for WFS) and sense 2.1.
I have one question, for the developers of XDA.
Is possible to port the Original ROM of HTC EXPLORER EUROPE (2.3.5 - Sense 3.5) in the HTC Wildfire S A510e (update the sense from 2.1 to 3.5)??.
HTC EXPLORER EUROPE
display 3.2" (81,3 mm) Res. 320x480 - CPU. Qualcomm 600 MHz - Rom 512MB Ram 512MB - Camera 3.0 megapixel
WFS
display 3.2" (81,3 mm) Res. 320x480 - CPU Snapdragon MSM7227 a 600 MHz, GPU Adreno 200 - Rom 512MB Ram 512MB - Camera 5.0 megapixel
Is possible make this?
I find the look of Sense 3.5 is very amazing.
it would be quite awesome to say the least. i'm sure we have the talent to do it lurking in our forums, but whether or not it will happen would depend on the free time and desires of said talent. i'd love to see this, or a port of the new 4.0 ICS with sense that just got released.
MdpMdp said:
I have my HTC Wildfire S A510e with the last Android 2.3.5 (for WFS) and sense 2.1.
I have one question, for the developers of XDA.
Is possible to port the Original ROM of HTC EXPLORER EUROPE (2.3.5 - Sense 3.5) in the HTC Wildfire S A510e (update the sense from 2.1 to 3.5)??.
HTC EXPLORER EUROPE
display 3.2" (81,3 mm) Res. 320x480 - CPU. Qualcomm 600 MHz - Rom 512MB Ram 512MB - Camera 3.0 megapixel
WFS
display 3.2" (81,3 mm) Res. 320x480 - CPU Snapdragon MSM7227 a 600 MHz, GPU Adreno 200 - Rom 512MB Ram 512MB - Camera 5.0 megapixel
Is possible make this?
I find the look of Sense 3.5 is very amazing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would also love a port of sense 3.5 on our devices.
I've ported it but it needs proper drivers. Maybe someone can fix it. Ill upload it if anybody's interested.
edit. what does it look like? screen flickers. nothing works. like a broken launcher.
sense porting
MdpMdp said:
I have my HTC Wildfire S A510e with the last Android 2.3.5 (for WFS) and sense 2.1.
I have one question, for the developers of XDA.
Is possible to port the Original ROM of HTC EXPLORER EUROPE (2.3.5 - Sense 3.5) in the HTC Wildfire S A510e (update the sense from 2.1 to 3.5)??.
HTC EXPLORER EUROPE
display 3.2" (81,3 mm) Res. 320x480 - CPU. Qualcomm 600 MHz - Rom 512MB Ram 512MB - Camera 3.0 megapixel
WFS
display 3.2" (81,3 mm) Res. 320x480 - CPU Snapdragon MSM7227 a 600 MHz, GPU Adreno 200 - Rom 512MB Ram 512MB - Camera 5.0 megapixel
Is possible make this?
I find the look of Sense 3.5 is very amazing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sense 3.0 and 3.5 roms are typically rather large. I have pulled a Pico RUU [called a zero sense I think but its 3.5 just lightweight]. Unfortunately I'd be deving for marvelc side to begin with (we're still stuck with 2.3.4 roms), but I have got that aforementioned RUU in my "to do" [port sense] pile, right after I build the 2.3.5 kernel and see if that will boot marvelc side. I suppose if things look bleak and I feel like really taking on projects [just hobbying now], I could buy a T-mo WFS and that way I would have a model on both sides [gsm and cdma],.. but no immediate plans on that. Where did Jikarantu sneak off to? He'd be the one you'd want to hit up; if he is lurking about somewhere.
Regards,
Rob
I remember looking at s thread that teaches you how to port sense versions on sense enabled roms ill have a look tomorrow
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S using Tapatalk