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Datel Wii wireless retro controller: Info & Tests

Hi All,
I ordered a Datel Wii wireless retro controller from http://www.codejunkies.com/ and finally got it! Its decently made and if I can get the bugs worked out I would suggest it to others came to about 46 dollars with S&H.
Currently I have tested it out using both Wiimote Controller (by C.C.P.) and Wii Controller IME (by Ryan Frawkley). Both apps seem to sync with this model controller no problem and seem to hold the connection.
Below is a small comparison between the two (for all testing 1 was only installed at a given time)
Wiimote Controller (by C.C.P.)
- Syncs and holds the connection
- Need to have compatibility mode disabled in spare parts to work correctly in full screen mode
- Appears to be able to map both of the analog sticks and all other buttons on the controller
- Views the controller as a classic controller
- Update from Dev - pikipirs
WiimoteController supports what is known as PWM mode. This is not analog stick emulation as Nintendo64 expects, but is as close to it as possible. It works by quickly pressing and depressing emulated keys, something you would be doing for example if you played a racing game on a computer with directional keys and you wanted to turn the steering wheel just a little.
You can activate this mode by going to WiimoteController's Preferences->Advanced settings. You have control over each axis of all sticks (nunchuk's and both from the classic controller). If you want to for example activate PWM for the left classic controller stick, set "CC L-stick X-mode" and "CC L-stick Y-mode" to Analog.
A word of advice: analog sticks have dead spots at the neutral position and when in this position, WiimoteController will not emulate any keys, but it might if your classic controller's analog stick is too sensitive. If you touch the PWM-mode-enabled stick outside your emulators, you'll get a shower of letters, so try to avoid that. Also, when you are plugging your classic controller into the wiimote, don't touch any analog sticks on it because WiimoteController expects all sticks to be in the neutral position when it detects them.​Side note from Jvward - I am a moron who after emailing both dev's I posted the response from pikipirs somehow got confused and posted in the section below, I have since updated it, Also special thanks to pikipirs for reading my post and keeping me on point ​
Wii Controller IME (by Ryan Frawkley)
- This controller is actually suggested as the only non Nintendo made controller by the dev.
- Some buttons don’t work (mainly both analog sticks are un-mappable)
- Because of the problems with both analogs I am unsure how this application views this controller (being as a wiimote or a wiimote with a classic controller)
- I have emailed the dev about the analog support and no response as of this point, I am going to email him again today.​
Preperation
In any of the "oid" app's by yongzh
you need to make the following changes after properly sycning the Datel Wii wireless retro controller (or a wiimote) with either of the two applications listed above. (thanks Salpula for this info):
Input settings > Key Mappings - remap the keys as necessary
Then
Other settings > Use input Method > check off the box
FPse Controller Info:
Coming Soon!
Testing
I tested: SNESoid, Nesoid, GameBoid, N64oid, and Gmail using both applications and the controller.
With all of the applications both sync apps worked fine and generally speaking gave the same results, accept for N64.
If anyone remembers who ever made the original N64 controller was probably smoking something good when they designed it and due to this you need to take full advantage of all of the buttons on the Datel Wii wireless retro controller. Only one application was able to do this as of this point, being Wiimote Controller (by C.C.P.). Regardless of how it ran I was only able to play golden eye via Wiimote Controller (by C.C.P.) and not
Wii Controller IME (by Ryan Frawkley)
Conclusions
Datel Wii wireless retro controller is honestly a better controller to sync to any android device in my humble opinion as of this point then a standard wii mote. Most android users will be syncing controllers to their devices to play emulated games and while the wii mote accomplishes this its not great at it, and honestly kind of sucks for systems with alot of buttons on the controller (PS1 and N64). The only way to get around the button limitation as of this point that I know of is using Wiimote Controller (by C.C.P.) and Datel Wii wireless retro controller.
P.S. I would love a PS3 sync app but as of this point it does not exist

Did you set wiiremote ime as the keyboard input?

Hi,
Yep I did.

Alternately, if your Xoom is Rooted, try Rwiimote.

Its not but I guess I could. What's the advantage of rwiimote?
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Not sure what the advantages are, I've only come across it recently, but I'd have thought worth a go to see whether it works.

I have mine working with all the emulators. Make sure you enable a
"Alternate control" or whatever.
Edit : the setting is actually "use input method"
Edit 2: i use wiimote controller by ccp
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Salpula said:
I have mine working with all the emulators. Make sure you enable a
"Alternate control" or whatever.
Edit : the setting is actually "use input method"
Edit 2: i use wiimote controller by ccp
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This...if you don't check that box it wont work, even if you set the mappings.
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Some other users are reporting great success with this controller. Any updates? If not, wanna sell it to me

Bumped with new info

Just got my Datel and I'm at work so I've only tested it with SNESoid and N64oid but it's working well. I was using Rwiimote for the wiimote but the Datel doesn't seem to like this. Quickly downloaded Wiimote Controller and configured and was impressing my co-workers with Super Mario Kart. Lovely.

I wish the controller werent so expensive...and RARE, not even amazon has them, the hell. I'll probably stick with my wiimote/classic controller pro combo, at least for a month or so. Isnt onlive supposed to be releasing a controller for the ipad and android?

Ouch, $40? I paid$23 on ebay.
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patass said:
I wish the controller werent so expensive...and RARE, not even amazon has them, the hell. I'll probably stick with my wiimote/classic controller pro combo, at least for a month or so. Isnt onlive supposed to be releasing a controller for the ipad and android?
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Here you have one for sale. Bought this one and it arrived today, took 4 days to Sweden
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Datel-Wireless-Retro-Controller-Wii/dp/B002BA5FAC/ref=sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&qid=1301071596&sr=8-23

Amazon UK doesnt ship to the states, and after conversion and shipping it would end up being the same price or more

I ordered mine from here, price is pretty good. I believe they deliver internationally.
http://www.gameseek.co.uk/pd/NintendoWiigp47epbpy/Datel_Wii_Wireless_Retro_Controller

Just got one a few days ago works flawless, great build quality and is completely wireless. Highly recommend this to anyone its a great product

i'll probably look for one while im in new york next weekend

delete this comment please.

hi all,
I just bought a datel wireless retro controller and played for a while with FPse and GameBoid. I found that it is really hard to execute top-left, top-right, bottom left and bottom-right these 4 directions by using the control pad. Does anyone have the same experience?
I don't have much experience on game issues, so i don't know if that is normal or not. Thanks for help.

[Q] WiiMote w/Emulators. Need advice on what to buy/mapping + ?'s

I have my Evo running an AOSP ROM and I have PSX4DROID, SNES, Gameboid, N64oid as my emulators. I went out yesterday and purchased a WiiMote (just the remote) but apparently that isn't enough.
I will mainly be using it for N64 (have to get my Zelda fix) and Mario Kart 64. I tried opening Mario Kart 64 and mapping the keys. I mapped all the keys and when I launched the game I could not turn with the D-PAD on the Wiimote.
I successfully paired the with WiiMoteController (app) but it won't turn left or right. I can do everything else but it kind of defeats the purpose.
Questions
Should I be mapping the keys within the N64 emulator app (what I've been doing) or map the keys in the WiiMoteController app?
Do I also need to buy the Nunchuck attachment?
Is it possible to just have the WiiMote and use that for my gaming?
Is there a Wii Controller attachment that I can slide my Wiimote into to turn it into a full fledge controller?
Why don't the Rom Gripper & Rom Gripper ++ download any ROMs? Are the servers down?
I'm confused and frustrated as I was trying all night to play around with it. I also want to mention that I didn't have success in the Zelda app either.

Wii-mote alone doesnt have sufficient buttons for the N64. Really its lacking to even cover the SNES.
Mostly I game using GBA, because of this. To combat it, you can get the classic controller plugin - http://www.amazon.com/Wii-Classic-Controller-nintendo/dp/B000IN0BSU
Which plugs into the wiimote, and should map through the WiiMoteController app, though I havent tried to see for sure. Personally I want it totally portable, and dont want to have to carry a third thing. I wish they would just make a wireless wii classic controller to work on its own. But alas...
Another problem you may be encountering with N64 and PSX, is mapping analog to digital. You are familiar with the analog controls of the original, but as I understand it, you can only map the classic controller as keyboard input, which turns them into digital control (full on, full off, like a keyboard button press). For many games that wont matter, but for many it will. Just another consideration.
Don't know anything about romgripper though, I only backup my games that I have bought with tools built from scratch

massivebasset said:
I wish they would just make a wireless wii classic controller to work on its own. But alas...
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you mean the Datel Retro wireless controller? That's what I bought. Think of it as a classic controller with the wiimote built inside
http://www.amazon.com/Wii-Retro-Wireless-Controller-Nintendo/dp/B001ULJGDU
I laugh at everyone getting a wiimote + classic controller for use with their phones, lol. Who the hell wants to carry that around?
Hell, I don't even use the datel controller that much (thank god I have a wii to use it with as well). Like I'm going to carry a controller with me everywhere I go, seriously.
I just choose games that work well with touchscreen controls (like strategy games and rpgs)

So do you recommend me getting a nunchuck along with my WiiMote or returning the Wiimote and buying the Datel?
I downloaded the ROM before (I do own all the games I downloaded) and I only care about those 2 games.

well getting a nunchuck isn't really going to solve your problem of not having enough buttons for N64 and PSX games...
and about the controller still not working after you mapped the buttons, you still have to switch to the controller in the standard Android input settings (like switch away from an onscreen keyboard) AS WELL as enabling the "input option" within the emulators. Like in Gameboid, if you go into "other settings" you will find an input option that you have to toggle (in addition to simply mapping the keys in the controls section).

gqstatus0685 said:
So do you recommend me getting a nunchuck along with my WiiMote or returning the Wiimote and buying the Datel?
I downloaded the ROM before (I do own all the games I downloaded) and I only care about those 2 games.
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I get 5 to 10 emails/PMs a day about this, you're going to want to get the Datel Retro Wireless. Wiimotes are only good for NES and Sega Master System.

[Q] game system controller

Is it possible to connect an xbox 360 or ps3 controller to the evo preferably for use with emulation apps?
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Controller
Xbox 360 not possible 2.4ghz i think. PS3 Bluetooth controller has not worked for me could not get to pair. Might need an app and could not find one.
I use a Wii remote and app off the market with Emulator and roms for NES. Works extremely well. The normal Wii controller feels small to me and cramped but very useable. I believe you can plug the game pad controller add on into the Wii remote and use it as well. Not tested but should work fine.
I am running CM7 so you have to be Rooted. I know CM7 and maybe other Roms? They use a changed bluetooth stack thats incorporated in the ROM. It's more universal to devices.
I love playing NES on any HDMI tv. Hope this helps.

http://www.amazon.com/Wii-Retro-Wir..._1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1305728445&sr=8-1
Works great with the wiimote app. Easier to travel with as you dont have to carry the wii-mote + classic, and it has enough buttons for all emulators.

Games that work with a pad on s3

Just wanted to get some knowledge of what works with a pad on the S3.
I'm using a £3.00p pad from Amazon, the mock ps3 one, which works suprisingly well, it's wired. No need for any extra apps to work, works in menu's too, no need for root access either, just plug and play over USB OTG.
Just noticed that the price has doubled to £6.95p
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004Z02X5G/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00
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Apps for use with pads
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USB/BT joycenter, good for xbox controllers.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5wb2tlNjQ3MzgudXNiam95Il0.
Six axis controller for proper ps3 pads, you can map buttons to touch controls.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...5ncGl4ZWxzdHVkaW9zLnNpeGF4aXNjb250cm9sbGVyIl0.
And The wiimote app.
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=wiimote
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Games that work natively:
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All emulators, Tiger mame, mame4droid, neodroid, fpse, mupen64...etc.
Trials 2.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsImNvbS5nYWxhcGFnb3Nzb2Z0LnRyaWFseDJfZ2wyIl0.
Shadowgun.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5tYWRmaW5nZXJnYW1lcy5zaGFkb3dndW4iXQ..
R-type (only movement)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5kb3RlbXUucnR5cGUiXQ..
Gunman clive (only movement when using a mock pad, maybe others work fully, wiimote and six axis controller should work fine)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImJlcmlsLm1vb3Rvci5nbWMiXQ..
Riptide.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS52ZWN0b3J1bml0LmJsdWUiXQ..
NBA Jam (xperia play version has a selector for gamepads, untested, normal version will work with six axis controller)
http://www.xperiagamer.com/Xperia-PLAY-Optimized/nba-jam.html
GTA3
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5yb2Nrc3Rhci5ndGEzIl0.
Virtua Tennis Challenge
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...er#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDYsImpwLmNvLnNlZ2EudnRjIl0.
Dead Trigger
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sImNvbS5tYWRmaW5nZXJnYW1lcy5kZWFkdHJpZ2dlciJd
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Games playable with the six axis controller app. :highfive:
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Nova 3 (via PS3 six axis controller)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...5nYW1lbG9mdC5hbmRyb2lkLkFOTVAuR2xvZnROM0hNIl0.
Max Payne (via PS3 six axis controller)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5yb2Nrc3Rhci5tYXhwYXluZSJd
CS Portable (via PS3 six axis controller)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5TdHVkaW9Pbk1hcnMuQ1NQb3J0YWJsZSJd
Battlfied Bad company 2 (via PS3 six axis controller)
*Available from Samsung app's*
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If anyone else has tried a game which works with a pad, let me know and i'll update the list.

dladz said:
Just wanted to get some knowledge of what works with a pad on the S3.
I'm using a £3.00p pad from Amazon, the mock ps3 one, which works suprisingly well, it's wired.
I've also got USB/BT joycenter, good for xbox controllers.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5wb2tlNjQ3MzgudXNiam95Il0.
I've also got six axis controller for proper ps3 pads, you can map buttons to touch controls but i'm looking for games that are supported natively.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...5ncGl4ZWxzdHVkaW9zLnNpeGF4aXNjb250cm9sbGVyIl0.
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Games that work:
All emulators, Tiger mame, mame4droid, neodroid, fpse, mupen64...etc.
Trials 2.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsImNvbS5nYWxhcGFnb3Nzb2Z0LnRyaWFseDJfZ2wyIl0.
Shadowgun.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5tYWRmaW5nZXJnYW1lcy5zaGFkb3dndW4iXQ..
R-type (only movement)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5kb3RlbXUucnR5cGUiXQ..
Gunman clive (only movement)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImJlcmlsLm1vb3Rvci5nbWMiXQ..
Riptide.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS52ZWN0b3J1bml0LmJsdWUiXQ..
NBA Jam (xperia play version has a selector for gamepads, untested)
http://www.xperiagamer.com/Xperia-PLAY-Optimized/nba-jam.html
GTA3
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5yb2Nrc3Rhci5ndGEzIl0.
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If anyone else has tried a game which works with a pad, let me know and i'll update the list.
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I used a wii remote on gunman clive, had shoot and jump working as well as movement.
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skibadee said:
I used a wii remote on gunman clive, had shoot and jump working as well as movement.
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Oh really? Hmmm will have to check that out, i've got a wiimote here.
Cheers m8.

Hi!
Add Virtual Tennis Challenge. It works very well with a wired PS3 Sixaxis Controller.
Regards, folgui.

Max Payne, CS portable , PS3 Bluetooth.

max payne, nova3, dead trigger, battlefield bad compagny 2, NeoDroid .

I know that a lot of games can be played using the six axis app, but they aren't natively supported.
Do you know of any that are? Besides whats been already linked to?
Many thanks.

Oh thread got moved, i'd have thought that this be a general thing?

[Q] Games on Ouya

Does it have a mapping tool so you can play games that don't support a controller or can you not download them at all?

don't know really. It has some kind of touch pad on it. But since Ouya has a controller, the games designed for it will have gamepad inputs.
for other games, who knows yet. Maybe Sixasxis Controller app may be able to help. It has touch simulator profiles. It's rather hit and miss on it's success. It's not the app, but some game's touch inputs are not static, so it makes it more difficult to setup.

they support sixaxis controllers natively, and there are rumours that a few people will be porting their controller-mapping apps to OUYA, for the purpose of adapting those touchscreen .apk's...
There is nothing so far on the marketplace or on the major OUYA forums

Has anyone tested the Interworks Controller Pro U (aka Retro Classic Controller) with the Ouya (or any Android device)? I'm especially interested in joystick functionality...
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