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[Q] Samsung Galaxy Nexus or HTC Rezound?

Which one should I get? I really like Sense, and would like the option to go back to it, but it's not a dealbreaker. I like the idea of instant root and having the phone built for the software. Let the debate begin

Blah, always hated these threads....and i know this is just the beginning of them but really, you shouldnt let someone else decide for you..In the end get what you want to get

Dude do you really have to think about it?
Absolutely go for the galaxy nexus

I am the same way I am hearing rumors that the HTC will have a better screen. And sense is amazing I love it too. I just wonder if the Galaxy Nexus will have roms with sense on it. I would love to have sense and ice creme sandwich. If it does I will go Nexus, if not I will go HTC mainly because they unlock all their phones now. But I will be on vacation when there phones come out so I will play with them both in the store and then make a call.

If you guys are contemplating sense over having ICS, then you are probably better off going with HTC.
The main reason people buy nexus phones is for the pure google experience, and the first updates. One of the main reasons people want a GN right now, is for ICS. If none of these things are important to you, then go with the HTC phone. You'll have sense, you might have better hardware depending on the phone, but you'll always be behind the current google experience phones in terms of updates, and waiting for those update... and be dependent on 3rd party devs to fill the gap until HTC maybe releases something.
Thats my opinion anyway. If you have to ask people, then this probably isn't the phone for you.

I'm in the same boat, I played with the Rezound and liked it a lot. Interested in the Galaxy Nexus, also. I like being able to tinker and customize my device. I'm wondering which one will have more dev support thrown at it

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I'm in the same boat, I played with the Rezound and liked it a lot. Interested in the Galaxy Nexus, also. I like being able to tinker and customize my device. I'm wondering which one will have more dev support thrown at it
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For dev support, there is no question. The Galaxy Nexus IS a dev device...

Another thing to consider is these are the first mainstream phones with 720p screens. How long do you think it will take HTC to get Sense reworked for the new resolution in all areas? There are bound to be issues to start.
On the other hand the Galaxy Nexus will have ICS which was designed for 720p so at least everything built-in to the phone should already be setup correctly for it.
It's going to be bad enough that many icons and apps will look crappy since they were designed for lower resolution. It took quite a while for apps to be redone to support the tablet resolutions and many apps still suck today. With the ICS dev resources so recently released to the public I expect some app headaches in the initial months. There is a reason Apple doesn't change the screen resolution. This is definitely one area where hardware fragmentation impacts the user experience.
On a totally different note I think people will want to watch for longer term reviews that exercise the battery. HTC hit some snags with LTE phones (which have more radios) and battery life. Throw in a 720p S-LCD and the battery could be terrible especially if any notifications light-up the screen versus just a separate notification LED.

both phones have their advantages and disadvantages. rezound's already got root & roms under way so... as far as the ol' "how soon after purchase can I start customizing this phone?" goes... pretty much right away in either case.
i'd say since you're unsure enough to even ask, just wait until the Nexus is out and try them out in person & then go from there.
I personally don't care for Sense nor will I like stock ICS either. I'm hoping for CM9 to come out a.s.a.p.

GSM Unlocked Galaxy Nexus worthy upgrade to the N1?

I have a few concerns with blindly pulling the trigger on a phone I have never held in my hand. That said, that is exactly what I did with my Nexus One and I am extremely happy with the device, as it has been my favorite phone yet. I am a bit concerned with a few features/defects of the Galaxy Nexus and I would appreciate the input from owners. I have been lurking throughout the threads here and have not found a quick, consolidated list of the questions I would like answers to:
1) Weight - Is it cheap feeling? How does it compare to the N1?
2) No external storage - Is this a limiting factor for some of you? Has this been a showstopping (lack of a) feature for some of you?
3) Samsung vs HTC - I'd appreciate input from someone who has owned both devices, as I have only owned HTC phones. I have bashed Samsung in the past for being cheap and I would like a neutral standpoint from others.
4) Lack of future support for the N1 - Is ICS worth the purchase?
5) Defects - I've read about a lot of the defects that have been posted in the threads and I would like to know if there are any stop-get defects that would prevent one from purchasing this device or any that have caused a person to return for a refund.
6) Internal RAM - I find myself constantly killing processes and fighting for memory to keep some stuff running. Are any GN users dealing with something like this?
7) Purchasing - From personal preference, would it be easier or less of a hassle purchasing from one retailer than another? Handtec vs eXpansys?
8) Speed - Does the GN operate fully functional on T-Mo's 42mbps network?
I know a lot of these are going to be user preference and potentially biased responses, but I would appreciate whatever you all have to share.
Thanks.

I'll answer what I can:
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1) Weight - Is it cheap feeling? How does it compare to the N1?
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It certainly feels less dense than the N1 felt, but I think it feels just as solid (no creaking, give, or apparent fragility). It is plastic and you can tell it, but it does not feel gimmicky.
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2) No external storage - Is this a limiting factor for some of you? Has this been a showstopping (lack of a) feature for some of you?
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Other than my original 8GB card in my G1, I don't think I have ever maxed out a card; including the internal storage 16GB in my Atrix. I thought it would/will be a big deal, but honestly right now I can't see it being a problem. But then again I don't keep my entire music/video library on my phone either. If that is truly important to you than you may want to reconsider.
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3) Samsung vs HTC - I'd appreciate input from someone who has owned both devices, as I have only owned HTC phones. I have bashed Samsung in the past for being cheap and I would like a neutral standpoint from others.
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I have had both the N1 and this GN, and as I have stated elsewhere in my experience thus far this is an exceptionally solid device. The screen is great, the weight is well-balanced (lightweight and fairly evenly distributed so I don't feel like it will fall out of my hand), I really can't fault the quality. The battery cover is pretty flimsy though- but I don't really see it as a problem, as its sole function is to be a panel that protects the battery/SIM and is not structural.
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4) Lack of future support for the N1 - Is ICS worth the purchase?
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I worried about this too, but ICS really is quite a step up. Only you can decide if it is worth it, but for me it was.
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5) Defects - I've read about a lot of the defects that have been posted in the threads and I would like to know if there are any stop-get defects that would prevent one from purchasing this device or any that have caused a person to return for a refund.
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I do not notice any screen defects, and I don't think any of the other defects that do not hinder everyday performance would really bother me. My camera lens is slightly off center, but it does not seem to affect my photos, so until there is a problem, I guess I don't have one.
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6) Internal RAM - I find myself constantly killing processes and fighting for memory to keep some stuff running. Are any GN users dealing with something like this?
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Nope (not yet at least, but last night I did open the app switcher and was amazed at how much was in memory and how it did not affect performance at all)
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7) Purchasing - From personal preference, would it be easier or less of a hassle purchasing from one retailer than another? Handtec vs eXpansys?
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I used eXpansys-usa because they have an office here, but I would imagine both are equally good.
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8) Speed - Does the GN operate fully functional on T-Mo's 42mbps network?
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On AT&T's HSPA+ I get the same speeds as my Atrix (HSPA+ device) got before. I think I had read somewhere that the radio in it has a theoretical max of 21 MBPS, but that might not be right...
I hope at least some of that helps

GN is outstanding in every way compared to N1. I don't know why people are so against Samsung for their plastics, they are able to make the most powerful and thinnest smart phones on the planet.
The galaxy nexus is fantastic. the resolution is superb and ice cream sandwich is really special.
Plus, the battery life has been really amazing.
Also my data speeds have been comparable to my iphone 4S, which is to say I am getting around 8 megabytes down in certain areas. I am on at&t in new york
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s.m.knipe said:
I'll answer what I can:
It certainly feels less dense than the N1 felt, but I think it feels just as solid (no creaking, give, or apparent fragility). It is plastic and you can tell it, but it does not feel gimmicky.
Other than my original 8GB card in my G1, I don't think I have ever maxed out a card; including the internal storage 16GB in my Atrix. I thought it would/will be a big deal, but honestly right now I can't see it being a problem. But then again I don't keep my entire music/video library on my phone either. If that is truly important to you than you may want to reconsider.
I have had both the N1 and this GN, and as I have stated elsewhere in my experience thus far this is an exceptionally solid device. The screen is great, the weight is well-balanced (lightweight and fairly evenly distributed so I don't feel like it will fall out of my hand), I really can't fault the quality. The battery cover is pretty flimsy though- but I don't really see it as a problem, as its sole function is to be a panel that protects the battery/SIM and is not structural.
I worried about this too, but ICS really is quite a step up. Only you can decide if it is worth it, but for me it was.
I do not notice any screen defects, and I don't think any of the other defects that do not hinder everyday performance would really bother me. My camera lens is slightly off center, but it does not seem to affect my photos, so until there is a problem, I guess I don't have one.
Nope (not yet at least, but last night I did open the app switcher and was amazed at how much was in memory and how it did not affect performance at all)
I used eXpansys-usa because they have an office here, but I would imagine both are equally good.
On AT&T's HSPA+ I get the same speeds as my Atrix (HSPA+ device) got before. I think I had read somewhere that the radio in it has a theoretical max of 21 MBPS, but that might not be right...
I hope at least some of that helps
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I appreciate your thorough, in-depth response. I have pulled the trigger and also ordered from eXpansys. I'm glad to see that you are happy with your upgrade from an N1, as I am starting to have some screen/power/memory issues that are just becoming bothersome.

bennettm89 said:
I appreciate your thorough, in-depth response. I have pulled the trigger and also ordered from eXpansys. I'm glad to see that you are happy with your upgrade from an N1, as I am starting to have some screen/power/memory issues that are just becoming bothersome.
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Sure!
First I ran into coverage issues with T-mo (moved back to my hometown after school), so I switched to AT&T, then I hit the memory issue, battled that for a while until the Craptivate came out, then became a phone whore for the past year, but I can see myself settling down with the GN for a long while.

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Sure!
First I ran into coverage issues with T-mo (moved back to my hometown after school), so I switched to AT&T, then I hit the memory issue, battled that for a while until the Craptivate came out, then became a phone whore for the past year, but I can see myself settling down with the GN for a long while.
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Yeah, I went from a nokia to the G1 to the N1. I don't float around as much as I could. I like sticking with Nexus-line devices. I am most concerned about the integrity of the build, as I have always been a huge fan of the build quality of HTC devices (The n1, specifically). I've had many friends drop their Samsung devices once and completely shatter the screen. I've dropped my N1 face first on my tiled bathroom floor from four feet and it survived. That is stupid luck, remarkable build quality, or a combination of both.
I also like buying the unlocked, off-contract version in the event that AT&T either acquires t-mo or t-mo flat-out dies. Either way, I'm sure I'll be an AT&T customer sometime in the next three years. I do like t-mo though

Bumping for more user input.

i went from nexus one to nexus s to nexus prime. i was never fully on board with the nexus s, but i learned to like it. the nexus prime really does feel like a true successor to the nexus one. like someone mentioned before, it doesn't feel as "dense" as the nexus one, but that's to be expected. performance wise, you'll be positively giddy when you fly around ice cream sandwich on the prime. the nexus s really was a big performance step up from the nexus one and the nexus prime is about as big a step up. i felt the same way using this thing for the first time as i did when i got my nexus one. didn't get that with the nexus s.
that being said, this phone is no nexus one in terms of "panache". stupid, yes, but everyone's reactions to the nexus one when i handed it to them was "whoa". people were indifferent to the nexus s, and the only reaction i've gotten to the nexus prime is "holy ****, thing thing's immense" LOL. anyway, that's been my experience thus far. i do love this new nexus!
eric b

e-dub said:
i went from nexus one to nexus s to nexus prime. i was never fully on board with the nexus s, but i learned to like it. the nexus prime really does feel like a true successor to the nexus one. like someone mentioned before, it doesn't feel as "dense" as the nexus one, but that's to be expected. performance wise, you'll be positively giddy when you fly around ice cream sandwich on the prime. the nexus s really was a big performance step up from the nexus one and the nexus prime is about as big a step up. i felt the same way using this thing for the first time as i did when i got my nexus one. didn't get that with the nexus s.
that being said, this phone is no nexus one in terms of "panache". stupid, yes, but everyone's reactions to the nexus one when i handed it to them was "whoa". people were indifferent to the nexus s, and the only reaction i've gotten to the nexus prime is "holy ****, thing thing's immense" LOL. anyway, that's been my experience thus far. i do love this new nexus!
eric b
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I appreciate it. I think that is to be expected. When people saw my N1, the reaction was awesome. I think Android is so common now that the GN will not cause such a reaction.

dunno that i'd go that far. when they SEE the phone, they can only talk about how big it is. when they use it, they're quite into it. that's secondary, as the primary user, i think you'd like the prime quite a bit ;D
eric b

bennettm89 said:
I have a few concerns with blindly pulling the trigger on a phone I have never held in my hand. That said, that is exactly what I did with my Nexus One and I am extremely happy with the device, as it has been my favorite phone yet. I am a bit concerned with a few features/defects of the Galaxy Nexus and I would appreciate the input from owners. I have been lurking throughout the threads here and have not found a quick, consolidated list of the questions I would like answers to:
1) Weight - Is it cheap feeling? How does it compare to the N1?
2) No external storage - Is this a limiting factor for some of you? Has this been a showstopping (lack of a) feature for some of you?
3) Samsung vs HTC - I'd appreciate input from someone who has owned both devices, as I have only owned HTC phones. I have bashed Samsung in the past for being cheap and I would like a neutral standpoint from others.
4) Lack of future support for the N1 - Is ICS worth the purchase?
5) Defects - I've read about a lot of the defects that have been posted in the threads and I would like to know if there are any stop-get defects that would prevent one from purchasing this device or any that have caused a person to return for a refund.
6) Internal RAM - I find myself constantly killing processes and fighting for memory to keep some stuff running. Are any GN users dealing with something like this?
7) Purchasing - From personal preference, would it be easier or less of a hassle purchasing from one retailer than another? Handtec vs eXpansys?
8) Speed - Does the GN operate fully functional on T-Mo's 42mbps network?
I know a lot of these are going to be user preference and potentially biased responses, but I would appreciate whatever you all have to share.
Thanks.
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In the end, it really depends on your budget, how much you are willing to spend and how badly you want this phone in place of your nexus one. I bought the motorola milestone about 20 months ago and I can't bare using it any longer. There was no updates past 2.2 (froyo) but there were custom roms (port of CM7) to be used on that phone (had a 550mhz processor, 256mb ram, other horrible specs) but it could barely be considered usable. Now, it is 99% confirmed that there will be no more updates regarding ICS for my device (and even if there were, i doubt it would work well considering Gingerbread only barely works). For you, on the other hand, there will still be a developer update for Nexus One to ICS (or at least I presume so) so you might be okay another few months or until faster dual core or quad core phones come out. BUT, if you love the nexus line, access to the fastest updates and having one of the biggest developer bases of any phone, and first-hand access to a completely working version of ICS, it might be worth it for you. Again, it all depends on the user, what their needs are and what they want in their phone.

Personally I Love the GN more than I loved my N1 (& That was a LOT)
You won't be disappointed!

Had mine for 24 hours now. Here's my early take: (my answers follow the >>>>>> s)
bennettm89 said:
I have a few concerns with blindly pulling the trigger on a phone I have never held in my hand. That said, that is exactly what I did with my Nexus One and I am extremely happy with the device, as it has been my favorite phone yet. I am a bit concerned with a few features/defects of the Galaxy Nexus and I would appreciate the input from owners. I have been lurking throughout the threads here and have not found a quick, consolidated list of the questions I would like answers to:
1) Weight - Is it cheap feeling? How does it compare to the N1?
It certainly is lighter, and I do feel that I am more likely to drop it. Dunno if that counts as cheap-feeling. The textured back certainly helps. Moving from the Nokia N97 to the Nexus 1 two years ago I also felt that I was more likely to drop it. Perhaps the feeling of dropping it is becuase we are not use to the lighter phone.
2) No external storage - Is this a limiting factor for some of you? Has this been a showstopping (lack of a) feature for some of you?
>>>>>>> I thought long and hard about this (and complained about it a lot) Then I looked carefully at my actual usage and found that I played 8g of my music pretty often and the rest almost never. Thus, the combining the 16g on the GN with Google Music, Amazon Music Cloud and Audiogalaxy serving off my home computer will certainly cover me. I do not watch movies on my phones.
3) Samsung vs HTC - I'd appreciate input from someone who has owned both devices, as I have only owned HTC phones. I have bashed Samsung in the past for being cheap and I would like a neutral standpoint from others.
>>>>>>> I have had both. The Nexus 1 always felt more solid. The only thing more solid was the Nokia N9 8gb with the slightly rubberized feeling coating. My last Samsung was about 10 years ago so it was not a smartphone. It was rugged, though.
4) Lack of future support for the N1 - Is ICS worth the purchase?
>>>>>>>> In a word, yes. After a bit of a learning curve (eg. the new way of getting apps and widgets onto the home screens) you'll soon find your way. Fast camera too!
5) Defects - I've read about a lot of the defects that have been posted in the threads and I would like to know if there are any stop-get defects that would prevent one from purchasing this device or any that have caused a person to return for a refund.
>>>>>>> Too early to tell. But I've not been concerned yet.
6) Internal RAM - I find myself constantly killing processes and fighting for memory to keep some stuff running. Are any GN users dealing with something like this?
>>>>>>> This is the main reason I went to the GN. I have not had to use any task killer yet. I was so tired of having to wipe application caches to get rid of the low on memory messages. This is the one upside of the lack of SD card. There is *lots* of room for apps.
7) Purchasing - From personal preference, would it be easier or less of a hassle purchasing from one retailer than another? Handtec vs eXpansys?
>>>>>> I pre ordered with eXpansys on Nov 14th. When they had stock on 11/22 or 11/23 they asked permission to charge and confirmed how to send it. I chose free ground shipping and it arrived 11/26
8) Speed - Does the GN operate fully functional on T-Mo's 42mbps network?
>>>>>> Dunno yet. I haven't been one of those areas.
I know a lot of these are going to be user preference and potentially biased responses, but I would appreciate whatever you all have to share.
Thanks.
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As s.m.knipe made an excellent detailed report, I'll keep mine simple.
I recently upgraded my Nexus One to the Galaxy Nexus (there just wasn't anything better since the Nexus One), and I'm loving my device.
I was also worried about the cheapy plastic-feel of Samsung phones. But this one really feels nice. Feels lighter than the N1 but still has a good feel. Although as already stated, the battery cover is pretty flimsy :S but not really much of an issue in everyday use.
While I can understand the value of an SD Card, unless you're planning on carrying your music collection around, I prefer the onboard memory. It's plenty and faster
As for defects.. did you forget the long list of defects of the N1 when it came out? Most aren't so serious, the others, either a patch is coming or they just need to exchange it. As for mine, I haven't run into any issues.
And finally, on the european/canada model, the theoretical max is 21mbps (HSPA+). The Tmobile limit you're talkin about is the crazy dual band HSPA+. This phone doesn't have that.

bennettm89 said:
I have a few concerns with blindly pulling the trigger on a phone I have never held in my hand. That said, that is exactly what I did with my Nexus One and I am extremely happy with the device, as it has been my favorite phone yet. I am a bit concerned with a few features/defects of the Galaxy Nexus and I would appreciate the input from owners. I have been lurking throughout the threads here and have not found a quick, consolidated list of the questions I would like answers to:
7) Purchasing - From personal preference, would it be easier or less of a hassle purchasing from one retailer than another? Handtec vs eXpansys?
Thanks.
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Do not purchase from Handtec. Very unprofessional and dishonest company. You'll come out better ordering from anywhere else but them. Now if you enjoy being lied to and not communicated with about your order then by all means order from them..

While I would totally recommend buying the GN and have one pre-ordered myself, I have to say that in my experience it isn't the best idea to ask in a specific device's forum because no matter what device, the majority will always recommend it
I made this experience the hard way with my xperia x10 which then took over a year of official updates and (most of all) custom roms to become quite good.
That said, I can't tell where else to ask and the reviews here seem quite objective. Maybe i just got a little cautious
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While I would totally recommend buying the GN and have one pre-ordered myself, I have to say that in my experience it isn't the best idea to ask in a specific device's forum because no matter what device, the majority will always recommend it
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Lol so true. But as long as your concerns are answered and after hearing the opinion and it still doesn't bother you, then by all means buy the phone!
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these are my 2 pennies.
the star of the show is definite the ICS. as to be fair, the hardware are similar to any existing phones out there. RZAR, SGS2, etc etc.
the few points that are worth talk about are.
-build, it don't look like cheep plastic build, but they are in fact plastic build. that is my only complaint. they have a brilliant screen. a nice back plate (battery cover), but the bezel, if you look closely, is just made from plastic and if you examine even details, you can even see the different layer paint job done to it. so, those are the areas that is prone to scratch.
-no sd slot.
if you read somewhere some review from the designer, i actually vouch for what they have done. i would much prefer the 32gb version (because people are always greedy). the main star of this is, you nolonger need to move app to SD, as all storage lives under the hood as 1. all you apps get access to all 16gb at all time. hence they have to change the USB mount to MTP/PTP, where it provides storage access while the drives are mounted.
-task manager. this could not have been easier. if you looked at the GN launch presentation, the multi task button is also the task killer. its so easy to use. you just need to swipe to kill the apps. having say so, i have not really need to kill app to keep the phone running, at the moment, i kill the app hoping that it uses less battery (no prove to it. just doing it for the sake of it).
- speed, can't comment much on this, as i stay at areas with poor reception.
one last thing is.
this is one of the reason i recommend the Galaxy Nexus. is because of the screen design. the on screen virtual buttons.
google has set a new standard where android 3.0 and above will use virtual buttons. and so far, that is the only devices that uses it. another words, this phone will be more future prove than the others where there is always hard button on other devices. i believe in any future upgrades of android, it will always be this way onwards.

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GN is outstanding in every way compared to N1. I don't know why people are so against Samsung for their plastics, they are able to make the most powerful and thinnest smart phones on the planet.
The galaxy nexus is fantastic. the resolution is superb and ice cream sandwich is really special.
Plus, the battery life has been really amazing.
Also my data speeds have been comparable to my iphone 4S, which is to say I am getting around 8 megabytes down in certain areas. I am on at&t in new york
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Not to be an ass or anything, just thought i'd point out that 8Mb is not 8MegaBytes/s wich is really really fast! But rather 8Megabits/s wich is about 1MegaBytes/s
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I have been using the N1 for about a year and was looking for a replacement. While I must agree that the build quality doesn't seem to be on par with HTC I don't see it as a flimsy phone.
I have had the GN since Friday and must say that so far I have been impressed. ICS is different but so far great operating system.
I worried about the lack of external card but 16 gigs is alot of memory. I really don't think that I need the SD card.
If you liked your N1 I think you will like the GN

Pardon my English, but HOLY FUDGE!

Came across this just now over at Engadget. I just felt my phone got really old real fast! The only thing that comforts me so far about it is that it's only released in Europe for now.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/22/lg-optimus-4x-hd-unveiled-quad-core-tegra-3-ice-cream-sandwich/
Benchmark here: http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/15/lg-tegra-3-phone-specification-leak-tegra3-quadcore/

*gasp*
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Yea I saw that too... so disappointing the way this phone gets treated. AT&T had minimal advertisment, where the Galaxy 2/Skyrocket is EVERYWHERE.
This phone almost feels DOA. Honestly I will be very shocked if AT&T ever releases ICS for the Nitro...

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Yea I saw that too... so disappointing the way this phone gets treated. AT&T had minimal advertisment, where the Galaxy 2/Skyrocket is EVERYWHERE.
This phone almost feels DOA. Honestly I will be very shocked if AT&T ever releases ICS for the Nitro...
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It just puts those of us who do own one in a more elite crowd.

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It just puts those of us who do own one in a more elite crowd.
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Thats one way of lookin at it... we have a limited edition!

Guys, this is ridiculous. We are hearing about new LG phones with ICS, when their previous flagship is stuck with GB and no concrete plans for an upgrade. This is unacceptable, you just know they aren't actively doing **** to expedite the completion of ICS for the Nitro.
The Nitro is a half-baked product, but it could have been great had they released ICS early on. I blame both AT&T and LG for this failure. I think we need to motivate LG with some concerned emails, but I honestly don't even know if there are enough people in this forum to even make a difference.
I will never buy LG ever again unless the do something about this. Anyone with me?

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Guys, this is ridiculous. We are hearing about new LG phones with ICS, when their previous flagship is stuck with GB and no concrete plans for an upgrade. This is unacceptable, you just know they aren't actively doing **** to expedite the completion of ICS for the Nitro.
The Nitro is a half-baked product, but it could have been great had they released ICS early on. I blame both AT&T and LG for this failure. I think we need to motivate LG with some concerned emails, but I honestly don't even know if there are enough people in this forum to even make a difference.
I will never buy LG ever again unless the do something about this. Anyone with me?
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I agree... I have ALWAYS bought HTC, and decided on Nitro over Vivid because of HD screen. Everything I read about the Nitro was its great on paper, but it's LG. Dummy me still went with LG. Like Charlie Brown going to kick the football knowing damn good and well Lucy is going to pull it away.
LG will let this rot on the vine, I know this. If the dev community doesn't pick up this phone will be dead in 6 months... and I will be GONE, and will go back to HTC.

LG has said they will update the LG Optimus LTE to ICS in Q2 2012. We'll be getting ICS either directly or by porting it from the Optimus LTE. It is more than possible to run the Optimus LTE ROM on our phones.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/26/lg-announces-ics-upgrades-to-begin-in-q2-2012/

blaineball said:
I agree... I have ALWAYS bought HTC, and decided on Nitro over Vivid because of HD screen. Everything I read about the Nitro was its great on paper, but it's LG. Dummy me still went with LG. Like Charlie Brown going to kick the football knowing damn good and well Lucy is going to pull it away.
LG will let this rot on the vine, I know this. If the dev community doesn't pick up this phone will be dead in 6 months... and I will be GONE, and will go back to HTC.
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Wish I could say the same but I still have a good 22 months to go.

Easy does it now. I've got gripes just like everyone else, but our Nitro does NOT suck. Don't forget it's STILL one of the few 1280x720 HD screens out there and our dual-core 1.5GHz cpu is hardly a turd either.
This whole thing about how we could've waited just a little longer for the next big thing is ridiculous because not even 6 months ago the specs on our Nitro WAS the next big thing.

Crap, it has LG logo...
I'll pass.

It's just woefully slow, backed by LG, and full of an array of small problems. I guarantee the same exact phone shipped by Samsung or HTC would be much much better.

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It's just woefully slow, backed by LG, and full of an array of small problems. I guarantee the same exact phone shipped by Samsung or HTC would be much much better.
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LOL, not quite true there. The only phone by HTC that has HD screen is the Rezound, and my coworker has it, and trust me, it lags even worse, expect in certain areas that I know for sure HTC makes it certain it runs smoothly (like the wake up screen). Samsung? Samsung doesn't even have an HD screen that competes with the pixel density of LG (not talking of resolutions here, since the note does have HD resolution but screen size is much bigger, thus reducing Pixel Density, and the Nexus runs on a crappy version of amoled, thus reducing energy footprint).
I posted those stories not with the intention of calling our phone crappy or that it will be obsolete in no time. I am sure that one way or another, we will get ICS, although it might not be months down the road. And I will never call this phone crappy, given that until now, about 3 months after it's release, there is yet to be a phone out there to match its power (besides the Nexus, which is a Giant search engine company's flagship phone) and once we get ICS, I am almost sure our phone will trump any other ones in its class.
Like kernelpanic said, we should get ICS somewhere in Q2 of this year, which is around the projected time that most new phones will be released carrying ICS in it. And if we are lucky, we might get either CM9 before that, or maybe a kind and great Dev to help us move further forward towards ICS with some interesting Roms or Kernels.
Speaking of CM9, did you all VOTE to get CM working on a port for our phone? If you haven't I say you should not be complaining cuz you are not doing your part to improve lol.

aquariuz23 said:
LOL, not quite true there. The only phone by HTC that has HD screen is the Rezound, and my coworker has it, and trust me, it lags even worse, expect in certain areas that I know for sure HTC makes it certain it runs smoothly (like the wake up screen). Samsung? Samsung doesn't even have an HD screen that competes with the pixel density of LG (not talking of resolutions here, since the note does have HD resolution but screen size is much bigger, thus reducing Pixel Density, and the Nexus runs on a crappy version of amoled, thus reducing energy footprint).
I posted those stories not with the intention of calling our phone crappy or that it will be obsolete in no time. I am sure that one way or another, we will get ICS, although it might not be months down the road. And I will never call this phone crappy, given that until now, about 3 months after it's release, there is yet to be a phone out there to match its power (besides the Nexus, which is a Giant search engine company's flagship phone) and once we get ICS, I am almost sure our phone will trump any other ones in its class.
Like kernelpanic said, we should get ICS somewhere in Q2 of this year, which is around the projected time that most new phones will be released carrying ICS in it. And if we are lucky, we might get either CM9 before that, or maybe a kind and great Dev to help us move further forward towards ICS with some interesting Roms or Kernels.
Speaking of CM9, did you all VOTE to get CM working on a port for our phone? If you haven't I say you should not be complaining cuz you are not doing your part to improve lol.
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I don't mean to bash the phone, it is what it is, and I'm the one who signed the contract, I'm just disappointed. It had potential but obviously, there's no denying it came up short. And two year contracts are the devil.

Quick post: Judge this for yourself (and i don't direct this solely to u 8mile hehe, i'm just saying to everyone)
https://plus.google.com/u/0/11504942...ts/5opZQ7UomCJ
If that does not scream unlock bootloader, I don't know what will

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Quick post: Judge this for yourself (and i don't direct this solely to u 8mile hehe, i'm just saying to everyone)
https://plus.google.com/u/0/11504942...ts/5opZQ7UomCJ
If that does not scream unlock bootloader, I don't know what will
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I saw that eearlier today. I'm glad a "real dev" has the phone and is working on it.
Haters gonna hate but hey, let them
Sent from my LG Nitro HD

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I saw that eearlier today. I'm glad a "real dev" has the phone and is working on it.
Haters gonna hate but hey, let them
Sent from my LG Nitro HD
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Hey, to me, you're as much a real dev as any other dev can be Despite your limitations, u gave us all hope with our phones hehe.

Def wont ne getting another LG but I can say I'm happy I opted for it when I did. Its the name of the game when you get a phone. New ones cone out that trump it in months. No bog deal really. I wish development teams could produce their own high quality devices to sell. Cyanogenmod making a phone would be sweet.

I dont think I ever said the phone sucked... it is LG that sucks. Their track record with phones is well established. I do love the screen, and LTE is faster than my home internet. It is a good phone, even better with Kernelpan1c rom's! I am just beginning to feel like this phone was nothing more than a stopgap to the Optimus 4x, and will soon be the neglicted middle child.
I also lay blame on AT&T who did NOTHING to promote this phone, nothing at all. Therefore sales will be down & 3rd party accessories will be minimal. The only saving grace may be Verizons version, at least they made commercials... although nothing like the Speilberg'esque Droid productions they put out regularly.
UPDATE - Just saw on AT&T the Nitro is now a $100 for new contracts. The Skyrocket is still $200!!! In 2 months it went from flagship to dead weight.

I bought the Nitro as an upgrade to my Samsung Infuse. I just wanted something different from Samsung. Yes Sammy screens are the best in my opinion and the Infuse is unbrickable. I've already bricked one Nitro. The HDMI output on the Nitro is so much better than my Infuse, thats a feature I use often. Developmet will come to this phone like it did to the Infuse and I'm thinking of getting my dev on for this phone if development slows down, but I'm new to that. The nitro seems to be LG's "middle child" like the samsung Infuse. Which is cool with me.

The Nexus brand should come to an end...

I really think Google needs to do a HUGE investment into the Development and QA department for Android. Android is huge and requires more attention then they are giving it. Google really needs to get more hands on Android and better testing so less buggy software gets out of the gate.
I have owned all of the Nexus phones and they are always pretty buggy until a few updates later.
I currently have to deal with slow screen rotation, multi-touch issues, laggy landscape keyboard response and crashes, SMS text bugs, Wifi bugs to name a few. How in the hell did the slow screen rotation and laggy landscape response go unnoticed is beyond me. I noticed it the first day i got the phone.
The NEXUS brand should come to an end, its essentially just like buying an iphone…….you pay extra for it, and its no better than anything else out there, or less than anything else out there.
The problem is Nexus is no longer a developer phone. Its now a brand. I knew i was not getting this nexus because sammy had there hands on it.

are you on 4.0.1?, 4.0.2? 4.0.3?
is your phone rooted?
are you running the GSM version or the CDMA version of the galaxy nexus?
is it stock android O.S.?

I don't have any of those issues on mine....

I'm running stock 4.0.2, getting software updates firectly from Google not samsung.
Everyone says the only reason you should buy Nexus phones is because they are so much better than other manufacturers phones. I'm not talking about rooting and such, because you can do that too with other phones and it would be the same.
It’s not just about timely updates. Even the 4.0.3 source code has bugs. This means that all these devices based off 4.0.3 can (and might) have the bugs as well. Then, you have to wait for Google to update the source and maybe just maybe your manufacturer of choice will update your phone before moving onto something else.

Well don't buy a Nexus device again. Then you don't have to worry about those problems, and the people who love the Nexus phone can continue to love it whilst you love your Droid Epic Galaxy 4G Super Touch Plus thing that you buy.
Thats the good thing about Android, you have choice. Your opinion doesn't mean anything, Google aren't going to do anything about it. Find a phone that you like and use it.
Also, have you ever used another Android phone other then the Nexus? Carrier bloat and skins make me shudder.

I disagree with the paying extra. It's essentially like buying any other phone whereas, the iPhone would be $100-$300 more than other phones depending on the sku. I have no complaints with my Nexus but I'm not trying to argue with your dissatisfaction or defend the brand, I just don't see the paying extra part which obviously varies from country to country.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

mines never been laggy works really great

Okay, I am happy to see that your works well, but please consider this: i'm talking about pure stock, no mods, nothing.

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I'm running stock 4.0.2, getting software updates firectly from Google not samsung.
Everyone says the only reason you should buy Nexus phones is because they are so much better than other manufacturers phones. I'm not talking about rooting and such, because you can do that too with other phones and it would be the same.
It’s not just about timely updates. Even the 4.0.3 source code has bugs. This means that all these devices based off 4.0.3 can (and might) have the bugs as well. Then, you have to wait for Google to update the source and maybe just maybe your manufacturer of choice will update your phone before moving onto something else.
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Rooting is one thing, but we like the nexus because of its bootloader and lack of bloat. Let's face it, iphone is easy mode, android(nexus) is expert mode.
Easy mode is... well.. easy. It is easy to master but gets stale incredibly fast and is lacking in features. Expert mode you have to read a couple forums, do a little tweaking, but in the end you get a pro longed satisfying experience that is rich in features and really let's you become... a superuser.
Ps rotation delay is a feature, just tap the screen for it to rotate faster.
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MistaBishi said:
Well don't buy a Nexus device again. Then you don't have to worry about those problems, and the people who love the Nexus phone can continue to love it whilst you love your Droid Epic Galaxy 4G Super Touch Plus thing that you buy.
Thats the good thing about Android, you have choice. Your opinion doesn't mean anything, Google aren't going to do anything about it. Find a phone that you like and use it.
Also, have you ever used another Android phone other then the Nexus? Carrier bloat and skins make me shudder.
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I wanna try out the Droid Epic Galaxy 4G Super Touch Plus.

Just for a little input, the rotation "Lag" that you talk about is supposed to be there. People were complaining that there phone would rotate to easily so they made lag so that just tilting your phone for a second wouldn't rotate it you had to actually want to rotate it. Takes an extra second, if that.
Also, ICS was released, you knew that when you bought the phone, you expect a completely clean product the second it comes out? Look at Apple with there battery bug, no OS comes out without it's fare share of bugs, Android is no different.
Also also, why cancel an entire line of phones because you have one mad customer? You don't.
Finally, Google picks a different handset maker every year to make their "Nexus" phone, just because "sammy" made it doesn't take away from the fact that it's a Nexus. Go buy a Razr with Motoblur and enjoy having a "Bug free enviroment" on an OS that is over a year old.

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Okay, I am happy to see that your works well, but please consider this: i'm talking about pure stock, no mods, nothing.
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OK fair enough but its pretty much an unspoken rule that you have to flash the **** out of a nexus phone. Unlocked bootloader and all that. Aosp etc.
Not being smart but you don't buy a formula one car to bring the kids to school.

retskrad said:
Okay, I am happy to see that your works well, but please consider this: i'm talking about pure stock, no mods, nothing.
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We considered that, and nobody cares. Thats the way the phone is, stop complaining about it and do something about it. We aren't you brain, do some thinking for yourself.
Root your phone if you want to fix the issues, or wait for Google to issue an update.

Nexus phones have historically been far cheaper than average. N1 and nexus s both sold for $529 from day 1. Only the Gnex broke this tradition.
Typical phone launches higher than $600.

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I wanna try out the Droid Epic Galaxy 4G Super Touch Plus.
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Na man, it's terrible. It's running this MotoTouchSenseWizBlur software. It's the worst skin out of the lot!

lol what kind of topic is this? nexus brand should to an end pfff
sorry to all hear you have all those bugs, im glad AOKP is smoother than ever on my nex

For reference, my last phone was a Palm Centro. Lasted 5+ years, bugs and all. I also work in the computer hardware industry, so while I am new to the current smartphone format and OS, I am versed in technology.
If you wanted something that was already polished out of the box, that's where the other Android and iPhone comes in. Works well out of the box depending on the model. If you want a 'pure' Android experience, the G. Nexus is the appealing one. I think in this case 'pure' is a bad word choice, as it denotes only good. However, it is both good and bad. In the 3 months I've owned the phone. I've def. thought to myself "****! I've got to fix this again!" AND "holy crap! this is way cooler than iOS!" It sucks that you have to extensively play with the phone, but once you do, the opportunities are much more appealing.
TL; DR: Don't buy something like a Nexus if you don't want to transform it to it's full potential.

Why are people still on stock on the Nexus....its a NEXUS!!
ITS A DEV PHONE!!!
you are SUPPOSED to hack it!!!
don't complain if stock doesn't have all that you want..
btw...i was on stock for 2 days...no bugs.

Ived owned two nexus phones and theyve been the best phones I have ever owned. Sometimes they do lack the performance other Androids have but the support/development for this phone is the best IMO.

Can we stop making these useless threads about how "Google is ignoring us", cause I can guarantee you they are probably working their asses off trying to get the next update to us before I/O.

[Q] Rezound for $300 vs GNex for $430?

I am buying a new phone soon and modifying my contract, which is the better deal? Or is it neither?

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I am buying a new phone soon and modifying my contract, which is the better deal? Or is it neither?
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If you're buying it outright and you want HTC then go with Rezound or if you can wait to see when the next HTC phone comes out on Verizon that might be better.
As for me, I'm biased so I'd say Nexus but several have reported hardware issues plus if the price is 430 for nexus and 300 for rezound and budget is important and you don't mind waiting for ICS then get rezound or wait for another phone. I do like the screen on the Nexus.
Not going into too much detail on rezound as I don't own one. Sorry, I rushed this post but wanted to provide some input but it turns out I seemed to push whatever you want seems ok.

tiny4579 said:
If you're buying it outright and you want HTC then go with Rezound or if you can wait to see when the next HTC phone comes out on Verizon that might be better.
As for me, I'm biased so I'd say Nexus but several have reported hardware issues plus if the price is 430 for nexus and 300 for rezound and budget is important and you don't mind waiting for ICS then get rezound or wait for another phone. I do like the screen on the Nexus.
Not going into too much detail on rezound as I don't own one. Sorry, I rushed this post but wanted to provide some input but it turns out I seemed to push whatever you want seems ok.
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I've seriously looked into the rezound since it will be able to run pretty much any rom out for very well. Phone hardware I think is gonna hit a small peak until we start approaching jellybean and the rezound isnt exactly outdated.
I am a fan of aosp and the gnex shows it nicely but like you said, all the people I know who have owned a nexus is really "meh" on their opinions of it.

bukithd said:
I've seriously looked into the rezound since it will be able to run pretty much any rom out for very well. Phone hardware I think is gonna hit a small peak until we start approaching jellybean and the rezound isnt exactly outdated.
I am a fan of aosp and the gnex shows it nicely but like you said, all the people I know who have owned a nexus is really "meh" on their opinions of it.
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If you get a good phone then it's awesome. I want to be like all "yay nexus, other phones inferior" but there are hardware issues. If you get a bad phone you can always swap it but it's one of the most customizable phones do to the software coded keys plus they have an awesome touch screen based cwm. Rezound is good though and I haven't heard many complaints and those that went to rezounds when I asked if they were having issues said very few probably no hardware issues.
Not sure if the issues are due to ics or hardware but some people with issues that replaced the phone were able to get issue free nexus phones.
However it's fairly likely that getting a new Galaxy Nexus will have no hardware issues (time for manufacturers to fix reported issues in new builds - just a theory, it may not be true).

tiny4579 said:
If you get a good phone then it's awesome. I want to be like all "yay nexus, other phones inferior" but there are hardware issues. If you get a bad phone you can always swap it but it's one of the most customizable phones do to the software coded keys plus they have an awesome touch screen based cwm. Rezound is good though and I haven't heard many complaints and those that went to rezounds when I asked if they were having issues said very few probably no hardware issues.
Not sure if the issues are due to ics or hardware but some people with issues that replaced the phone were able to get issue free nexus phones.
However it's fairly likely that getting a new Galaxy Nexus will have no hardware issues (time for manufacturers to fix reported issues in new builds - just a theory, it may not be true).
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I've been noticing more and more "issues" popping up nowadays in the newer android devices. It seems like android has been stretched so thin by some many different companies that its heart is getting lost.
I tend to trust HTC devices more since they've been around droid since the old OS bases of 1.X they've gotten their crap straight.
I guess I'll be buying a rezound next paycheck or so and move on to the glorious new world of 4 inch+ touch screens... *sarcasm on the screen part*

Weelllllll I just bought a rezound for $325 off of swappa... hooray phone!