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any idea if i change my radio version on TP2 by installing AT&T or T-Mobile it could works the 3G on it?? i have TP2 EURO Version witch is runing on Edge Speed Network.
Its highly unlikely. The only reason i'm not gonna say a definitive no is because of the rumored world tp2. Now if its anything like the last like 3-4 HTC phones the antenna for the USA 3G bands is not installed in the device so u can do all the software u want but it won't change the fact that u won't get 3G
not gonna work, there's nothing u can do. This has been addressed many times, just search.
to bad as a good phone like tp2 does not support North American 3G
maybe i should sell it because this phone one of the best in market for now and the made it in very hight quality brand but no 3G it means no internet on it 2 bad.
NorthAmerican 3G Network on TP2 ?? ¡¡¡Wait!!!
Hi guys, you must wait for the AT&T´s Fortress aka TP2
GSM Quad-band phone capable of global roaming ( 850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
UMTS tri-band global 3G ( 850/1900/2100 MHz)
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Fortress-phone-pb_3712.html
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maybe i should sell it because this phone one of the best in market for now and the made it in very hight quality brand but no 3G it means no internet on it 2 bad.
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you really should have read up on this forum before you bought the phone. like esincho said, this has been addressed many, many times.
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Hi guys, you must wait for the AT&T´s Fortress aka TP2
GSM Quad-band phone capable of global roaming ( 850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
UMTS tri-band global 3G ( 850/1900/2100 MHz)
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Fortress-phone-pb_3712.html
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that's not really an accurate pic of AT&T's TP2. especially because of the QWERTZ keyboard. this was discussed too lol
cobra1971 said:
maybe i should sell it because this phone one of the best in market for now and the made it in very hight quality brand but no 3G it means no internet on it 2 bad.
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i would never go as far to say u cant use the net at all the push pages make it very usable and edge isnt that slow its much slower than 3g but ive been replying to xda posts on my tp2 with no problem. if u want to stream stuff then ur out of luck
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i would never go as far to say u cant use the net at all the push pages make it very usable and edge isnt that slow its much slower than 3g but ive been replying to xda posts on my tp2 with no problem. if u want to stream stuff then ur out of luck
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I live in a 3G arean and i had 3G devices before and i do not see a speed difference between EDGE and 3G
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I live in a 3G area and i had 3G devices before and i do not see a speed difference between EDGE and 3G
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Yeah, there is not much of a difference if you use EDGE or 3G on the phone itself. I do everything on EDGE, and i'm quite happy. The peak i got here is 20kb/s and is fast enough for my everyday needs. I can even stream youtube normally, just like my PC.
The big difference here is when you tether. On everything else, EDGE is fine.
I live in a 3G area and just switched from my xperia to the touch pro 2 and there is a huge difference depending on what browser u use. And youtube loads very slow on edge at least for me it does. 3G was much faster!
Based upon my experience with the Touch HD T8282 in the US I wouldn't recommend anyone here buy the Rhodium 100 with European 3G. I'd suggest waiting for the Rhodium 300 with the UMTS850.
EDGE Sucks, forget any streaming....period.
^agree, usa 3G is a must have for speedy internet, streaming, etc.
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Based upon my experience with the Touch HD T8282 in the US I wouldn't recommend anyone here buy the Rhodium 100 with European 3G. I'd suggest waiting for the Rhodium 300 with the UMTS850.
EDGE Sucks, forget any streaming....period.
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Hi Mmdirk,
Is there anyway to identify physically or on Windows a Rhodium 3oo from a Rhodium 100?
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Omar
well if you put the skyfire browser it makes a major differnece in speed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTXgBcegnrs
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Hi Mmdirk,
Is there anyway to identify physically or on Windows a Rhodium 3oo from a Rhodium 100?
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Omar
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Omar,
If you bought yours from Mobile City Online then there is no doubt yours is the Euro version Rhodium100. The US version has not yet been released. Lift up the battery cover and the model# should be under the battery.
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Omar,
If you bought yours from Mobile City Online then there is no doubt yours is the Euro version Rhodium100. The US version has not yet been released. Lift up the battery cover and the model# should be under the battery.
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Hi Bersca,
You are right, it is a Rhodium100
Regards
Omar
Im sending mines back!!! That was a deal breaker for me... they should have been upfront about it... Unless I can figure out how to put US 3G on here, I'm sending it back to Hong Kong...
Upfront??? Its all over these forums on HTC's website. I'm not sure how much more information you needed? A big red sign? I don't understand this confusion.
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Im sending mines back!!! That was a deal breaker for me... they should have been upfront about it... Unless I can figure out how to put US 3G on here, I'm sending it back to Hong Kong...
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seriously, stop posting your sob story in any thread you find.
it's no one's fault but yours that you bought the European version that doesn't run 3G in the US. if you had done your research instead of relying only on whatever online store you purchased it from, you would have known that the Rhodium 100 doesn't have the necessary bands to support 3G here.
all that info is in this forum, all you had to do was look. so stop blaming the online merchant for not being "upfront" with you, because no one here will care. it's your fault for not researching the phone further than "ooohhhh the screen tilts and it's a 3.6 inch WVGA resolution and it has dual speakers and blah blah blah" learn from this mistake so you won't waste your money and posting space on the forum.
Just got my Touch Pro II... here's my problem, perhaps you can help...
1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
I am sure I read here somewhere, that the non US versions don't support 3G. You may want to read some other threads to verify yourself though.
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2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
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Are you blind or just being lazy to read?? Posts of european version of TP2 is not compatible w/ AT&T 3G is all over here (it's even listed on HTC official website). Who could you blame if you are not doing research before you purchase???
did you read anything about this phone before buying it?
Can he actually read?
ok ok that was a lame one ..
but yes, you should do research about these things before buying it.
for the xperia as example they have an Xi and an Xa a for US and i for europe.
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Just got my Touch Pro II... here's my problem, perhaps you can help...
1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
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Yes, you made a mistake.......by even breathing all day today !!!
You seem the type to buy a car from the U.K and ship it to the U.S and then complain that the steering wheel is on the wrong side of the car.
are you kidding me?! where have you been the past few months? its been stated multiple times in this forum that th euro version doesn't run US 3G. and why would you buy a phone without researching it first? if you knew the US 3G bands and compared them to what the euro TP2 uses, then you would have known. and its not the ROM that doesn't support it. its the hardware on the phone. people who don't read and search and do research annoy the s*** out of me.
You don't just buy a phone because it looks cool.
So you are an American then I will swap you my X1a (works with ATT 3G), including original Box, including extra 3600 extended mugen battery, and Samsung SCH-I760 for your phone.
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You don't just buy a phone because it looks cool.
So you are an American then I will swap you my X1a (works with ATT 3G), including original Box, including extra 3600 extended mugen battery, and Samsung SCH-I760 for your phone.
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haha sounds like a good deal!!!
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1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
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I wrongly presumed that pretty much anybody buying a TP2 would know how bluetooth works... I really had to laugh at this one, sorry about that.
How can you think that 'bluetooth' reads 'voice command'. Bluetooth just means bluetooth, nothing more, nothing less, just bluetooth.
It's like buying a car advertised as a manual gearbox (stick shift) and then complaining "where's the twin turbo and NOS!?"
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Yes, you made a mistake.......by even breathing all day today !!!
You seem the type to buy a car from the U.K and ship it to the U.S and then complain that the steering wheel is on the wrong side of the car.
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No no, the steering wheel is on the "RIGHT" side of the car
I have TP2 for the US and it works fine.
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I have TP2 for the US and it works fine.
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yeah, but you do not have 3G though.
if the European TP2 could run on 3G here in the states i would already have one.
people don't realize that EDGE data really isn't THAT bad. I've been using it for a couple of days just to see how slow it really is, and it's actually pretty fast. sure, it's not as fast as 3G, but it's decent. and besides, an unlocked TP2 still has Wi-Fi capability, and in most cases Wi-Fi is faster than 3G. if I had the money, I'd buy the unlocked version and save myself the stress of waiting for it to come out for ATT
EDGE is fine for US networks compared to the overcrowded WCDMA that AT&T is currently touting. They need a major upgrade at some point. Most iPhone users have been getting dropped down to EDGE speeds without realizing it since they don't ever check their bandwidth. Same thing happens with most WM users in the US. On a good day, you'll get 1.2Mbps but on a bad day you'll end up with 60kbps T_T. In any case, the US should come out of the CDMA stoneage and get on the same good networks like the rest of the world. It's funny but I get higher speed everywhere else in the world except in the US. Consistency is key.
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people don't realize that EDGE data really isn't THAT bad. I've been using it for a couple of days just to see how slow it really is, and it's actually pretty fast. sure, it's not as fast as 3G, but it's decent. and besides, an unlocked TP2 still has Wi-Fi capability, and in most cases Wi-Fi is faster than 3G. if I had the money, I'd buy the unlocked version and save myself the stress of waiting for it to come out for ATT
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I agree. I've had 3G on my Xperia and my Tilt and I can't say i'm dying cause on edge. With push pages it helps a lot. I know that even after having it for a while i would still buy it again and recommend it to anyone even on edge.
Lenstar said:
Just got my Touch Pro II... here's my problem, perhaps you can help...
1. Even though bluetooth is advertise in the specs, it does NOT HAVE VOICE COMMAND... you'll have to buy that software separately...
2. WILL NOT RUN ON 3G NETWORK... I could almost live with the first faux pas... but not running on 3G is a deal breaker!!! Youtube stuttered... CNN was horrible...I even downloaded SkyFire... still no help. Called HTC, he said the Taiwanesse phone was not designed for this market. He said the Rom will not accomodate this 3G network.... I'm sending the damn thing back and wait on ATT version... AM I MAKING A MISTAKE? Please answer before I box it up... Len
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Words escape me.... but there had to be a first, but congratulations Lenstar, you are the first..
On a serious note.. have you tried switching to the 2100 WCDMA frequency?
Not totally sure of the options on the TP2, but i believe under the network settings there should be an option to scan for a different network.
The Taiwanese HTC web site states that the Taiwanese version of the handset is built for European and Asian 3G networks running at 900 and 2,100 MHz.
...not to mention the sorry battery life that 3g get you even if it were fast all the time i would struggle with keeping it on because ei use my tp2 all the time for work and pleasure and i would have to charge it twice a day if i used 3g
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people don't realize that EDGE data really isn't THAT bad. I've been using it for a couple of days just to see how slow it really is, and it's actually pretty fast. sure, it's not as fast as 3G, but it's decent. and besides, an unlocked TP2 still has Wi-Fi capability, and in most cases Wi-Fi is faster than 3G. if I had the money, I'd buy the unlocked version and save myself the stress of waiting for it to come out for ATT
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I 2nd that
I wonder if anybody is using this phone in Mobi here in Canada, a friend of mine got one and the first thing we noticed was that it takes FOREVER to pick the signal, even u do a manual search is painfully slow to stick to Mobi's network, also the Wifi spot is locked, and so we wonder if anybody knows a way to work around these issues without rooting (at the moment !!!).
Thanks for any input!
Btw, the phone is great, thin, light, no way that crappy mapple mockup will be even close, I mean, it does even come with Si....I mean Voice command, which works amazing!
I don't think there's another radio out yet so, i think the radio searching issue you're having isn't fixable?
I haven't heard anyone complain about the signal search so maybe it's your area or something with your particular phone. Try setting it to WCDMA preferred/only. Also, call into Wind and ask for a network reset.
Also, it seems like the wifi-spot is locked down by the t-mobile ROM. I doubt there's any fix for that other than rooting and installing a non-crippled ROM. I stand to be corrected though as I have yet to get mine in.
I know on mine when I do a Factory Reset it does take a minute or two to find the Mobilicity signal, but then it locks on, and is fine when I restart the phone. No work around for the Wifi Tethering unless you root and freeze the Tethering Manager. Sorry.
it works, i'm using it on Wind as you can see
just set the phone to look for WCDMA only as mentioned above, and it will bypass scanning the Rogers, Bell, Telus signal
so you get the Wind and Mobi towers to show up quickly that way
Funny you have the same problem as couple of other guys here (including me):
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...-S2x-unlocked-Wont-find-network-automatically
My response remains the same:
It's definitely a problem with Mobilicity not your phone. It happens to me too when I boot up the phone it says "No Service" even though I previously registered with Mobilicity network and phone setting is set to register automatically. Don't worry. Boot up the phone, do nothing and wait for 2-3 minutes and see what happens. I usually have to wait 1 minute or so for the phone to auto-register to Mobilicity, not instant.
Also, in your mobile settings, set it to "WCDMA only" instead of the default "GSM / WCDMA auto" because Mobilicity uses WCDMA bands only. It may speed some things up.
Also, if you want to speed things up even more, go to your dialer, dial *#*#2263#*#*, select "WCDMA Band Preference", and then select "WCDMA 1700" so that the phone looks by default in the 1700 band (the band the Mobilicity uses exclusively).
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I don't think there's another radio out yet so, i think the radio searching issue you're having isn't fixable?
I haven't heard anyone complain about the signal search so maybe it's your area or something with your particular phone. Try setting it to WCDMA preferred/only. Also, call into Wind and ask for a network reset.
Also, it seems like the wifi-spot is locked down by the t-mobile ROM. I doubt there's any fix for that other than rooting and installing a non-crippled ROM. I stand to be corrected though as I have yet to get mine in.
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This is not true.
You can root your phone, use Titanium Backup (paid version) to freeze the system app called "Tethering Manager", after that you can do wifi-hotspot with no problem. T-Mobile uses that software to block this feature.
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It's definitely a problem with Mobilicity not your phone. It happens to me too when I boot up the phone it says "No Service" even though I previously registered with Mobilicity network and phone setting is set to register automatically. Don't worry. Boot up the phone, do nothing and wait for 2-3 minutes and see what happens. I usually have to wait 1 minute or so for the phone to auto-register to Mobilicity, not instant..
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this is interesting
in WIND i do not have that problem
i power on the phone and it automatically picks up the WIND tower by itself during boot time
so by the time you see the lock screen, it already says WIND Home
AllGamer said:
this is interesting
in WIND i do not have that problem
i power on the phone and it automatically picks up the WIND tower by itself during boot time
so by the time you see the lock screen, it already says WIND Home
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In the (Howard Forum) thread that I linked to, a lot of people are having this problem with registering this phone with Mobilicity. And I can personally vouch for it that every time phone boots up it takes an additional 2 minutes before you see Mobilicity.
Thx guys, so I was rt about switching the AWS setting, still it bothers me, in any case and in regards to the Wifi hotspot, what about after installing a ROM, does it stay locked or the app becomes the standard manager for the Wifi hotspot?, I wish I could rewrite the app on the stock ROM but I don't really know how to get into that...
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Thx guys, so I was rt about switching the AWS setting, still it bothers me, in any case and in regards to the Wifi hotspot, what about after installing a ROM, does it stay locked or the app becomes the standard manager for the Wifi hotspot?, I wish I could rewrite the app on the stock ROM but I don't really know how to get into that...
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My SGS2x works fine with Mobilicity, been using it with them since the 30th.
wifi tethering worked from day 1 using the stock telus install. I'm now using several custom ROMs, and overall I'm really happy with the phone on mobilicity. their 3g internet leaves lots to be desired though, perhaps it will improve, but it is an unlimited carrier.
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This is not true.
You can root your phone, use Titanium Backup (paid version) to freeze the system app called "Tethering Manager", after that you can do wifi-hotspot with no problem. T-Mobile uses that software to block this feature.
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He was asking for a non-root solution.....Glad there's another way out there using root. But I think if you root the phone, you mind as well throw another ROM on there. Removes all the bloatware as well.
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Thx guys, so I was rt about switching the AWS setting, still it bothers me, in any case and in regards to the Wifi hotspot, what about after installing a ROM, does it stay locked or the app becomes the standard manager for the Wifi hotspot?, I wish I could rewrite the app on the stock ROM but I don't really know how to get into that...
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There's a stripped down version of the stock ROM. Never tried it but maybe that will work. You should just use one of those custom roms if you're going to root it. They have tweaks and other whatnots that improve your phone's performance. Once you go custom, you don't want to go back to stock.
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My SGS2x works fine with Mobilicity, been using it with them since the 30th.
wifi tethering worked from day 1 using the stock telus install. I'm now using several custom ROMs, and overall I'm really happy with the phone on mobilicity. their 3g internet leaves lots to be desired though, perhaps it will improve, but it is an unlimited carrier.
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Agreed, it's been brutal. Hopefully they can get a few more cell towers up.
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Agreed, it's been brutal. Hopefully they can get a few more cell towers up.
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The issue isn't cell towers, the issue is back end internet, after the IP transmission gets through their cell network to whatever centre they use, the internet connection to that that all of Toronto shares it ****ty and can't keep up. It's not a single overloaded tower that's the issue, as you can see by doing constant speed tests while roaming around.
Backend internet connections are expensive, especially the bandwidth on them. Small carrier can't afford to keep up to it's unlimited bandwidth demands.
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My SGS2x works fine with Mobilicity, been using it with them since the 30th. Wifi tethering worked from day 1 using the stock Telus install. I'm now using several custom ROMs, and overall I'm really happy with the phone on Mobilicity. their 3g internet leaves lots to be desired though, perhaps it will improve, but it is an unlimited carrier.
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Well, this is not rooted yet so that's a huge difference since ur phone will for sure include modifications to the radio, in all (I just figured it) is about Samsung, I have a N8 and a NS, compared the 2 with the SMGS2 (T989) and there is a thing in common between the NS and the T989, getting signal from cold boot or out of dead spots is a pain, my N8 picks the signal almost immediately, on the NS running stock it takes a good 2 to 3 mins (or more if out of cold boot) to get signal but the NS running MIUI makes things faster, I presume and since the stock SMGS2 takes a long time (like the NS) the same will happen when u run the phone with a modded ROM, it will pick signal faster.
So I guess it's all about rooting
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The issue isn't cell towers, the issue is back end internet, after the IP transmission gets through their cell network to whatever centre they use, the internet connection to that that all of Toronto shares it ****ty and can't keep up. It's not a single overloaded tower that's the issue, as you can see by doing constant speed tests while roaming around.
Backend internet connections are expensive, especially the bandwidth on them. Small carrier can't afford to keep up to it's unlimited bandwidth demands.
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I agree with the backend connection. But I think it's a bit of both. Some areas don't have as many cell towers as others. (in my area, i only have two) So I have a feeling it's both rather than just the backend.
Hopefully, they have a good new subs-to-upgrade interval so the speeds will get better.
well, regarding the nexus S
a lot of people in WIND also complains that it always stays in "emergency mode calls only, blah blah blah" basically unable to attach itself to the network.
i seldomly get that on my Nexus S, but that's probably because it's customized
but on the T989, i don't have that problem even in stock
so that's actually very nice
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Well, this is not rooted yet so that's a huge difference since ur phone will for sure include modifications to the radio, in all (I just figured it) is about Samsung, I have a N8 and a NS, compared the 2 with the SMGS2 (T989) and there is a thing in common between the NS and the T989, getting signal from cold boot or out of dead spots is a pain, my N8 picks the signal almost immediately, on the NS running stock it takes a good 2 to 3 mins (or more if out of cold boot) to get signal but the NS running MIUI makes things faster, I presume and since the stock SMGS2 takes a long time (like the NS) the same will happen when u run the phone with a modded ROM, it will pick signal faster.
So I guess it's all about rooting
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well, regarding the nexus S
a lot of people in WIND also complains that it always stays in "emergency mode calls only, blah blah blah" basically unable to attach itself to the network.
i seldomly get that on my Nexus S, but that's probably because it's customized
but on the T989, i don't have that problem even in stock
so that's actually very nice
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That reinforce my statement, is not really the network but mostly the way Samsung works the radios on their phones on the 1700 Mhz freq or at least for us, don't know in the US.
My NS running stock is a pain, modded works nicely, takes a bit longer than my Nokia but gets the network faster than running stock Android, I bet the same happens with the T989.
I am currently on Mobilicity in Vancouver with a crappy cheap phone and it has a hell of a time getting reception on the network. I live in East Van near victoria and I get reception in only 1 room in my place. I am planning on getting the Telus GS2X in a couple of weeks. Would this help my problem? Can anyone who lives in Vancouver and has the GS2X comment on his/her reception in east van?
Thanks alot.
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I am currently on Mobilicity in Vancouver with a crappy cheap phone and it has a hell of a time getting reception on the network. I live in East Van near victoria and I get reception in only 1 room in my place. I am planning on getting the Telus GS2X in a couple of weeks. Would this help my problem? Can anyone who lives in Vancouver and has the GS2X comment on his/her reception in east van?
Thanks alot.
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a new phone might not help if the tower is physically too far from your location
however a good phone with good reception could improve your problem
the only way to find out is to try the phone in your house and see if it works for you
Does anyone know the best place to buy this phone and have it shipped to usa. I know tmobile sells the phone but if I use a tmobile branded android phone they up the cost of my service.
If u want the phone not branded to T-Mo then u'll have to get the Telus version sine it comes with no T-Mo stuff, I don't know of this model to be able factory unlocked
On the other hand I have a couple of new questions:
1> Is there a way to fix/access the MMS?, on Mobi I'm getting errors when receiving MMS, the pixs come all blurry.
2> Any way to enable the Wifi Tethering?, using the T-Mo model is just impossible unless u have the T-Mo sim which is not the case and I haven't seen any of the existing ROM's addressing the issue (sorry if I missed the part, so pls let me know if it's fixed )
Thx
1) check the apn settings and match it to the mobilicity ones. Head over to hofo and there's a thread about it
2) you need to root your phone &, put a custom rom on it. There's another way of disabling a process but I suggest the former
Sent from my SGH-T989
Never really thought about Verizon but I'm to the point were I've had it with sprints ****ty service, so i got a few questions im a little hesitant about jumping to Verizon since their Android lineup seems lackluster (getting the nexus but probably only for a year then would get another phone) anybody hear anything about them acquiring better Android phones in the future, also been to the development section an don't see much activity going on for the LTE version any reason for this? Maybe due to how new it is? Any comments about Verizon as a service provider would be welcome also...
In my opinion, Verizon gets a pretty good lineup of phones. The Galaxy Nexus, Rezound, Razr, etc. As far as a carrier, very expensive but you get what you pay for.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Verizon gets pretty good Android handsets IMO.
I just recently moved one of my AT&T lines to Verizon. Prior to that I was with Sprint. Sprint's data speeds were horrendous in my area and EVERY area in traveled too. I can't even imagine what its like after the Iphone release. Voice was always good on Sprint. AT&T's data blew sprint out of the water. Verizon is as good if not quite as fast 3g wise as AT&T but its incredibly reliable. 4g is blazing. 3g speeds are usually 1 - 1.8mbs on Verizon 3g. 4g pushes 15mbs. AT&T's 3g was anywhere from 800k to 4mbs. Verizon is definitely more stable and works in more places.
Both are leaps and bounds better than Sprint. Also with Sprints $10 premium add on its the same price as Verizon if you use Google voice or another data type service for texting. Which is what I do and saves me the $20 a month. I don't need many minutes since if I get low I can use google voice and GrooveIP for free minutes. Once its set up and configured it works great even over 3g.
In other words, jump ship the grass is greener. Sprint's service has taken a dump the last few years and they run a serious risk of bankruptcy before they can put all the spectrum they have to any real use. They have made one mistake after another after another for a long time now.
The LTE roms are on another site mostly.
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Thanks a lot guys ^^ its really between getting the LTE nexus or GSM on tmo, an whats the deal with the litte dev support for the LTE version?
*what site josh...?
i moved from AT&T to Verizon and havent looked back, love my GN, but other phones are respectable too,RAZR,REZOUND are good phones too depending on youre tastes
Rootzwiki, but if you have the choice, get the GSM version.. much better battery life.
Cool, thanks guys great input, how much better battery we talking about?
carlost24 said:
Cool, thanks guys great input, how much better battery we talking about?
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Significant amount. LTE is quite the battery drain. All depending on use patterns of course.
martonikaj said:
Significant amount. LTE is quite the battery drain. All depending on use patterns of course.
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It's really not that bad. I mean if you hammer it on LTE it will drain quicker than usual but it's not this destroyer of batteries that people make it out to be.
while LTE may destroy ur battery, u can always turn it off till u need it. there is plenty of dev support for the LTE version, and verizon's network coverage destroys all other three carriers put together.
also.. if u are going to pay for a data plan anyways, might as well enjoy the subsidy.
carlost24 said:
whats the deal with the litte dev support for the LTE version?
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The GSM version works on all providers in all countries all over the earth. The LTE version works on one provider, in one country.
I think the GSM-model simply has what you may refer to as a "immensely much bigger user-base" and hence more developers than what's when you look at the cold, hard facts, is basically a carrier-phone, available on one carrier only.
If you travel out of the country often get GSM. Otherwise get the LTE model. People wanna make LTE out to be some battery black hole but its not. Sprint vs vzw is no contest. Verizon 3g is actually usable and 4g knocks my socks off. It maintains 25 megs on a heavily loaded network and gives me 50+ when its lightly loaded. Honestly development is not really a problem for me because ICS is so good.
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If you travel out of the country often get GSM. Otherwise get the LTE model. People wanna make LTE out to be some battery black hole but its not. Sprint vs vzw is no contest. Verizon 3g is actually usable and 4g knocks my socks off. It maintains 25 megs on a heavily loaded network and gives me 50+ when its lightly loaded. Honestly development is not really a problem for me because ICS is so good.
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I can't seem to get above 7 anywhere in Denver. Any chance its my phone?
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mark manning said:
I can't seem to get above 7 anywhere in Denver. Any chance its my phone?
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It's going to vary largely due to many factors. What's your signal strength, how many other people are using 4G in your area, etc...
I was traveling through Baltimore, MD and was managing only 12 MBPS with 1 bar of signal strength on New Years Eve, which honestly, is easily more than enough for anything. Keep in mind, as time goes on, more people get 4G phones, and use them more, available bandwidth is going to go down anyway. I don't understand why people think they should get 20 MBPS anyway....what are you going to do? If you don't have an unlimited plan, what's the point? You'll use up the small amount of data allotment that you have so quick you'll never even know it.
Thanks guys i think i shall pick up the LTE tomorrow...
carlost24 said:
Never really thought about Verizon but I'm to the point were I've had it with sprints ****ty service, so i got a few questions im a little hesitant about jumping to Verizon since their Android lineup seems lackluster (getting the nexus but probably only for a year then would get another phone) anybody hear anything about them acquiring better Android phones in the future, also been to the development section an don't see much activity going on for the LTE version any reason for this? Maybe due to how new it is? Any comments about Verizon as a service provider would be welcome also...
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I left Sprint for Verizon 3 months ago, and the extra cost is well worth it - it's like having a landline in my pocket.
As far as your assessment of the Android phone lineup, I'm not sure where you're coming from. I think they have a great lineup, although certainly it's slanted toward the Motorola line. With Google buy Motorola mobility, that should end up being a very good thing.
I also don't think they meddle with the phones nearly as much as ATT does - but I have no direct experience with ATT, just what my friends tell me.
I don't know about all your guys' locations but I live in Mesa, AZ (it is about 30 min from downtown Phoenix). I get VERY slow LTE in the city. Even with 2 bars I get ~5 down and 5 up. As far as signal strength, it isn't much different to any other 4G phones I have used. I get no data in my school's basement and the phone always seems to drop the data service. This morning I had 1X until I restarted the device. At a small town in east AZ, Verizon is the only one with data service, but it is VERY!!!! slow. 3G in Phoenix area is about .8 down (on a good day).
Was hesitant due to what im hearing about battery life on LTE, but i guess I'll deal with battery issue since i do want the 32gig option an I'm hearing nothing but good things about Verizon, any other differences between LTE an GSM version?
I drop Sprint and made the switch to Verizon. I had nothing but network problems on Sprint, crappy speed on 3g/4g network. But one thing I can say is once you make the switch to an LTE phone you’ll never go back to regular 3g/4g service! is like going from DVD to bluray.
Hi guys. I've been a member of XDA for some time through many phones rooting, ROMing, etc., and customizing many phones. But I haven't done anything for awhile, still rocking the Note 4, and am by far no expert. I am really looking to get my hands on the Xiaomi Mi Max 4GB 128GB dark grey version. I've never bought a phone that wasn't compatible or made for my carrier, so I need some help.
1. Does anyone know if they will get these back in stock, or am I stuck purchasing a gold one?
2. I am on Verizon. From my understanding, it will work except LTE. Do you still get 4G but not LTE? Is it a huge deal really? Can you still stream on Netflix etc, without a huge lag? I've read from some users online it wasn't a huge difference.
3. Which version do I look for, International?
4. Would it work better on AT&T? Because I am willing to switch for the phone I want. If it's the same as Verizon, no LTE, then I'll just stay with Verizon.
Thanks for any help guys. I really want this phone. I was disappointed the Note 7 is still so small. The Note 4 easily fits in my pockets, so I can't see why they won't go bigger with all the use of media and internet these days. I know some people wear skinny jeans and already have an issue with the size, but that's why they have other options like the S7.
Also looking into the Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra. Will that work any better on a US network?
I'll pay you $1,000,000 if you can get Verizon to activate this phone on their network. They would never let you use any of these phones on their network.
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I'll pay you $1,000,000 if you can get Verizon to activate this phone on their network. They would never let you use any of these phones on their network.
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I thought you could use it if you put in the APN and stuff, but just not get the LTE? I guess not?
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I thought you could use it if you put in the APN and stuff, but just not get the LTE? I guess not?
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They block it from accessing their network. They limit what's allowed to run on their network. I even tried my friends Verizon sim in my Mediapad X2 and Mate 8 and nope, if it's not in their whitelist it won't work. That's one of the main reasons I left Verizon a while back.
Ok, few important things to share with you.
Consider the 32gb, 3 gig ram version because it has the most development, global ROM, and possibly lower cost. I'm seduced by bigger specs models but frustrated to no end by lack of global ROM, I've got the 64 gig.
Secondly I ditched Verizon for this very reason. Lack of open network and hassles getting devices to work.
Thirdly, look at network coverage in your area, pick the better of AT&T or T-Mobile. I've gone with T-Mobile and not looked back. Speeds are good enough at H+.
Finally, Lenovo Phab Tango device with US LTE bands is about to hit the market, so research that also. ?
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badrsj said:
Ok, few important things to share with you.
Consider the 32gb, 3 gig ram version because it has the most development, global ROM, and possibly lower cost. I'm seduced by bigger specs models but frustrated to no end by lack of global ROM, I've got the 64 gig.
Secondly I ditched Verizon for this very reason. Lack of open network and hassles getting devices to work.
Thirdly, look at network coverage in your area, pick the better of AT&T or T-Mobile. I've gone with T-Mobile and not looked back. Speeds are good enough at H+.
Finally, Lenovo Phab Tango device with US LTE bands is about to hit the market, so research that also.
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THANK YOU so much!!! That was awesome information. Lenovo Phab 2 Pro, seems to be the only fairly current phone over 6.3" fully compatible in the US right? I've had so many cell phones over the last 15+ years, more than 15. I've never cracked a screen. But with having such a larger screen, it concerns me a little I have not seen anything about it being Gorilla glass. Other than that I'm sold. Not that there are many choices in that size compatible in the US, but it has pretty good specs overall. I only wish for a little bigger battery and Gorilla glass. But you sold me sir. I'll be waiting for this. Guess I'll be switching to AT&T soon. Thanks!
I have the data and sms/mms working on Verizon currently. Did all the troubleshooting with them and on my own. Not your typical customer, 32 years in technology network engineering. Been fighting with them to have it added to their system. Finally someone submitted the form for me waiting to see. As for now I have my Verizon number forwarded to my Google Voice.