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[REQ] Galaxy Tab unlock

Good evening gentlemen.
The Galaxy S and all its variants have an unlock tool, working on a simple method of fetching the code from one of the files on the phone.
I have also seen that some folks who couldn't quite get the easy method to work would actually change some things in their nv_data.bin, which also allowed them to unlock their phones.
I was hoping that some kindly dev, with far too much time on his hands, would figure out a way to unlock the Galaxy Tab in the same way (seeing as both machiens are so similar).
I will help out with whatever I can - files, adb commands, logs, etc - because I want to give my Tab as a gift to a friend, but the damn thing is locked up tight to Vodafone

Galaxy TAB unlock
I tested variant unlock process from Samsung Galaxy S by generating unlock code but didn't work. Process is based on sgux.exe tool that extract code from nv_data.bin file.
I am waiting for an alternate method to get unlock code for this exciting device.
Thanks in advance

there is a person at android.modaco.com who will get the unlock code for your device if you send him the IMEi no. (he tells you how) and your carrier and location... for a fee... 19 UK... fyi
It's in the sticky post at the top of their Galaxy Tab forum

Is there a free way to do it?
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Try this; it worked for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8942669&postcount=94

I just think I unlocked mine using a similar method to posted above.
Will post instructions shortly when can confirm. Exciting!
Edit: I wrote up a short guide of what I did here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838424

smithdc said:
I just think I unlocked mine using a similar method to posted above.
Will post instructions shortly when can confirm. Exciting!
Edit: I wrote up a short guide of what I did here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838424
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I prefer to use a confirmed procedure for using with TAB because I tried some working methods for SGS without results at TAB device.
Thanks

I can confirm that this unlock method works, see the link posted above (I even included some screenshots).

I confirmed this method works fine, my Galaxy tab (SFR reunion island) unlock great, thanks again

Yep, it works, I have my tab unlocked a few weeks ago that way but the serial number of the device on the about turn s into 00000000 .. Only problem I have found. Been using it without any glitch so far but I'm still looking for a way that does not mess the device serial number..

smithdc said:
I can confirm that this unlock method works, see the link posted above (I even included some screenshots).
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Hi smithdc,
Sorry to do not be confident on your procedure, I purchased device two days ago and really worry about an error may brick it. I follow procedure and can confirm you, it works.
Many thanks

Hi Just got a US T Mobile Tab but if I cant unlock I will have to bring it back

This unlock method works!
smithdc said:
I can confirm that this unlock method works, see the link posted above (I even included some screenshots).
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Thanks smithdc and helroz! This method worked great for me on portuguese GT! And it's really easy too...
Especially smithdc's guide is very easy to follow!
One thing though: don't bother to buy Root Explorer just to move/copy/delete files. A little linux command line knowledge (easy things like "cd, cp, rm" or even "mkdir" - google it if U don't know what I'm talking about) will do the trick using terminal emulator (check out at market). Also I'm using an amazing little proggie called WiFiKeyboard (market again) to use my keyboard to write out the commands on the GT!
If U want your GT rooted and unlocked this is the way to go! Thanks to all the people who have worked on this!! Cheers!

It unlocked mine but I cant get it to work right wit ATT.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

clausnymark said:
Thanks smithdc and helroz! This method worked great for me on portuguese GT! And it's really easy too...
Especially smithdc's guide is very easy to follow!
One thing though: don't bother to buy Root Explorer just to move/copy/delete files. A little linux command line knowledge (easy things like "cd, cp, rm" or even "mkdir" - google it if U don't know what I'm talking about) will do the trick using terminal emulator (check out at market). Also I'm using an amazing little proggie called WiFiKeyboard (market again) to use my keyboard to write out the commands on the GT!
If U want your GT rooted and unlocked this is the way to go! Thanks to all the people who have worked on this!! Cheers!
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did it change the serial no. to all zeroes as reported above?
thx.

xexes said:
did it change the serial no. to all zeroes as reported above?
thx.
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Yes, I does change the serial numbers to all zeroes.
You could probably just roll back your nv_data.bin file/you have the serial on the back of your Tab and there should be a way to just edit it back in, in the future.

And the drawbacks to having all zaros for a temporary serial # would be??
I get the warranty issues but I just wanna make sure im not missing something
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TainT said:
And the drawbacks to having all zaros for a temporary serial # would be??
I get the warranty issues but I just wanna make sure im not missing something
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Well none so far, or that I can think of.
Even with warranty you could just restore the original files. Or if you had broken it so badly that they couldn't load it up then it wouldn't matter anyway.

Tis what I thought....preciate ya bro!!
And all your work.

[DEV][TOOL][BRICKPROOF]TF300 NVFlash release!

After a hard day of extra testing, we're proud to announce Nvflash for TF300.
This release allows unlocked devices to create a set of device-specific files that lets you access nvflash.
Once the procedure is done, you will always be able to recover any software brick (even bootloader!) as long as you keep your files safe!
NOTE:
THIS REQUIRES A NON-BRICKED AND UNLOCKED DEVICE. IT WON'T WORK ON ALREADY BRICKED DEVICES
THIS ONLY WORKS IF YOU HAVE A PRE-JB BOOTLOADER
More details at http://androidroot.mobi/?p=480
Important note: License: Due to the nature of wheelie and the importance of people always using the latest version, Wheelie is NOT redistributable! You are allowed to download it and use it, but you are not allowed to redistribute it in any way - this means no GUI's including it, no reposting zips/tar.gz's and similar! At a later date, we will be releasing our source code and relicense it as GPL.
Enjoy
- AndroidRoot.Mobi Team
Members: rayman, lilstevie, kmdm, Bumble-Bee (XDA: apache14), IEF (XDA: IEFtm)
NOTE: If anyone wishes to donate, http://androidroot.mobi/donations/ is place to do it! DO NOT DONATE DIRECTLY TO ME.

Nice, I'll have to give this try. Its good to have a safety net.
So once I have generated the files and have NvFlash working, would I be able to then flash the new JB from Asus and then use the NvFlash files to go back to ICS bootloader?
PS: This thread should be pinned.

wideopn11 said:
Nice, I'll have to give this try. Its good to have a safety net.
So once I have generated the files and have NvFlash working, would I be able to then flash the new JB from Asus and then use the NvFlash files to go back to ICS bootloader?
PS: This thread should be pinned.
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Yes! Once you have these files, you can move back and forth between any rom/bootloader you desire. ASUS can do nothing to prevent it once you have the files for your device!
It also essentially makes your device brick proof (assuming you carefully follow our guide and do the backups!), so development gets a lot more safe

Yyyeeeeeahhhhh
THIS IS AWESOME!! Thank you guys so much for all your hard work.
I followed the process as explained in the guide and everything went perfectly.
For anyone there still on the fence... give it a go! The whole process takes 2-3 minutes. Just make sure you don't skip any step of the process and keep your generated files in 3 or 4 different locations (thumbdrive, cloud, external HD and the TF300 in my case).
Kudos to all of you again!

Now I am really pissed that I took the JB updated

Gold job
Envoyé depuis mon LT18i

Even working perfectly on the TF300TG(!) used windows 7 x64 for the whole process...

There are any hopes working nvflash for JB BOOTLOADER? Or is it impossible?

rayman said:
[*]THIS ONLY WORKS IF YOU HAVE A PRE-JB BOOTLOADER
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What do you mean with Pre-JB bootloader?
You mean OTA JB from ASUS?

w0uter said:
What do you mean with Pre-JB bootloader?
You mean OTA JB from ASUS?
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Yes
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w0uter said:
What do you mean with Pre-JB bootloader?
You mean OTA JB from ASUS?
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You need to be on ICS Bootloader...so yes,if you updated to Jelly Bean using the OTA or the official rom from Asus site you CAN'T use this.

Pretoriano80 said:
You need to be on ICS Bootloader...so yes,if you updated to Jelly Bean using the OTA or the official rom from Asus site you CAN'T use this.
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Please don't abuse me because I may have missed any pertinent discussion but is there any thing in the works to eventually develop this to be workable with the JB Kernels and mods? :fingers-crossed:

I would guess there will be a way to downgrade and at this point you will be fine
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Sorted in APX mode and installing drivers now!
Sweet backed up all files to Laptop/Tablet/Drive/Dropbox!
Not sure how to use NVFlash but at least I know its there if required!

I followed all the steps to the letter (I think) because everything worked up to and included generated the 5 files (blob.bin, blob.log, bootloader.ebt, create.bct, recovery.bct) which I saved to like 4 places lol, but I can't seem to get into APX mode. When ever I hold volume up and power I just end up in CWM recovery. Am I missing something?

wideopn11 said:
I followed all the steps to the letter (I think) because everything worked up to and included generated the 5 files (blob.bin, blob.log, bootloader.ebt, create.bct, recovery.bct) which I saved to like 4 places lol, but I can't seem to get into APX mode. When ever I hold volume up and power I just end up in CWM recovery. Am I missing something?
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Yeah just reboot the tablet and hold VOL + and it will go into APX mode

Northern-Loop said:
Yeah just reboot the tablet and hold VOL + and it will go into APX mode
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Ok thanks that worked. Now I am in APX mode, which driver do I point it at? It's not finding the driver automatically.
Edit: nevermind I had the driver, just needed to point to the right folder to install it. #facepalm

wideopn11 said:
Ok thanks that worked. Now I am in APX mode, which driver do I point it at? It's not finding the driver automatically.
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Its on the guide main page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426502

Awesome! Thanks for all the help. Is there some info on how to use NvFlash with these shiny new backups?

I can't use this - already on jb, but still wanted to extend thanks. I'm sure this is a gem to many. Well done devs.
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[How To] How to Unroot/Install Jelly Bean 4.1.2 Galaxy Nexus GSM! [Windows] [Manual]

Here's how to unroot your Galaxy Nexus GSM to 100% stock and unroot 4.1.2. Follow the whole process and it is safe enough to send back to your carrier / Samsung.
NOTE: This will delete everything on your phone! Backup your phone!!
Download links that you need: http://www.androidrootz.com/2012/10/how-to-unrootinstall-jelly-bean-412-on.html
Enjoy! And if you need help on this just comment on the website and I will respond ASAP. (I am the owner of the website)

Nice! Will definitely keep this bookmarked for future use

Thanks for this guide, although check the typo for the last fastboot command, it's misspelled.
Copy pasting, noobs will get error.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

Mikey said:
Thanks for this guide, although check the typo for the last fastboot command, it's misspelled.
Copy pasting, noobs will get error.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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Thanks! Just fixed it.

I couldn't flash the radio, it kept saying write failed. Though everything else flashed fine. Would it be a problem if I send it to the carrier?

ginobili1 said:
I couldn't flash the radio, it kept saying write failed. Though everything else flashed fine. Would it be a problem if I send it to the carrier?
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No it shouldn't as long as everything else flashed correctly.

The great political minds in my country has decided to block YouTube . Would the video be available anywhere else?
from north of the equator using my nexus

niamul said:
The great political minds in my country has decided to block YouTube . Would the video be available anywhere else?
from north of the equator using my nexus
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Im sorry to hear that, you can get the written step by step guide that is located under the video.

[Noob-friendly] Poor man's FlashTool

Version 3 released! Check for even more simplicity and a new UI! NO more copying!
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If you're experiencing errors, please report them either in the thread or PM me.
Please report ANY errors or typos you come across, I made this in 4 hours without a single break, so there's bound to be an error somewhere
What's new:
-Completely rewritten (ACTUALLY written, not VB)
-Even simpler! NO MORE COPYING!
-Even smaller in disk size!
-No tutorial needed! Yes, it's that easy -- just read carefully and don't panic
There's still no way to:
-relock the bootloader
-flash FTF files
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Note: Inside the Fastboot.rar, there are fastboot drivers for 2012 Xperias. Install them if you dont have them yet. Those are the only useful files you need from that folder, everything else (both adb and fastboot) are already contained in the new BU.zip!
TESTING:
Reported working Windows versions:
Windows 7 x86
Windows 7 x64
Windows Vista x86
WANT TO HELP?
Then test it and report your phone model and windows version (x64/x86, service pack etc.) -- send me a PM
Please do... You can always flash a kernel or recovery.
Thanks for helping me and all those noobs out
About the attachments:
-Fastboot; contains adb and fastboot, plus Xperia 2012 Windows drivers
-BootloaderUnlock; contains the old PMFT - version 2 (kind of useless unless you understand everything it says in there)
-nexus; the NEW PMFT - version 3 -- if you already have the drivers, this is all you need

someone755 said:
I've been getting some questions on PM lately, about 'how to unlock my bootloader'...
So, fed up with those infinite PMs, I quickly put this together (30 minutes, not much).
It's not much, and I've only tested it for one minute, but it should help the average noob user get their bootloader unlocked.
(I've only tested this on a x86 Win7 PC, so please help me find out where this works on.)
So, the basic idea is, that the noob user extracts the attached adb and fastboot .zip file and extracts it to disk C: (I'll make options for other drives later on, I just need to know whether or not this works). The user then opens up the program inside BootloaderUnlock (and installs it), and, after many warnings, gets to a screen where he is told to input his Bootloader unlock code (obtained from Sony's website).
The program then warns the user a little more, just to make sure he understands, and then, two lines of text show up.
The user enters those lines of text into the console window (the fastboot.exe he extracted at the beginning) and Viola!
If all steps have been done correctly, he now has an unlocked bootloader
It's a simple, yet fool-proof concept, tested on a complete phone moron (after reading some instructions on Sony's unlock site).
Please help me test this, as this may be really helpful to those that don't understand FlashTool and don't have an idea how to do it via the official method.
Also, if you don't understand, there are some instructions within the program (written in VB, so you may need NET framework... MAY need it...)
Thanks for helping me and all those noobs out
Note: extract the fastboot.rar to C:, so you will have the fastboot.exe in C:\Fastboot\fastboot.exe
Note: Inside the Fastboot.rar, there are fastboot drivers for Xperias. Install then if you dont have them yet.
Note: The BootloaderUnlock.rar is a visual basic program. Please help me test it on different Windows systems (XP, Vista, 7, 8, 2000; all both x86 and x64)
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A way to get a noobs phone bricked?!
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derrickdroid said:
A way to get a noobs phone bricked?!
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No it wouldn't. It'll either work or not
Sent from my Jellybean Xperia S

Yeah, it's actually the same as Sony's way, this program just tells the user what to write into the CMD window.
You can't brick your phone with this, because it either suceeds or fails. Either gain or no gain (and no loss) for the user...

someone755 said:
Yeah, it's actually the same as Sony's way, this program just tells the user what to write into the CMD window.
You can't brick your phone with this, because it either suceeds or fails. Either gain or no gain (and no loss) for the user...
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i think he was referring to:
IF you are so beginner that you aren't able to even unlock your bootloader
THEN you could be so newbie to brick it

That's possible, if you're pointing to the fact they could brick their phone after unlocking the bootloader.
But before the unlock, no, it wouldn't be possible...
But hey, some people might have trouble with windows and are new to it. (I know many linux users that are forced to use windows for their phones that could use tools like this for their phones (not Sony, but others...)...)

So can this way unlock any bootloader even if it says bootloader locked? Thanks
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Nope.
Did you not read the first post?
It's the same as the official method, but simplified...
Nothing's changed, basically, so it can't do more and it can't do less!

Ok thanks just dont understand why they sell ones that can and others you cant unlock oh well
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Its not the phone, it's the carrier...

mcmanone said:
Ok thanks just dont understand why they sell ones that can and others you cant unlock oh well
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It's because companies like AT&T give locked down phones away for free with a service contract. That way they can lock some services to make you pay more. For example AT&T makes you pay an additional monthly fee for the use of tethering (only when you use the att stock Rom, it's free on generic version )
From Jaramie's LT28at
2012Xperia SOFT-BRICK Recovery Thread

So I guess it's great in my country;
you don't get a 'free' phone, you pay at least 1€ (depending on the plan you chose; I chose the one where I get to pay 370€ for a nozomi)
You can always trade your phone on Swappa (you have loads of ads on CM's sites and forums) and get an unlockable one...

what is the difference between this tool and this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1794800

This one, you can't flash things with, and you don't need a ton of downloads...
Yours is actually a program that uses FlashTool... It has flashtool included in the libs, which means:
1. You download the program AND the giant FlashTool
2. It can flash FTF, IMG and SIN files (because this is flashtool after all...)
I came up with my method for people with bad internet and limited storage...
It actually is the official method, but with a "paste-press-copy-paste" procedure, although the main idea is about the same as all the others...
Basically, every method is based on the official way, but there's a bit of variation here and there...

someone755 said:
This one, you can't flash things with, and you don't need a ton of downloads...
Yours is actually a program that uses FlashTool... It has flashtool included in the libs, which means:
1. You download the program AND the giant FlashTool
2. It can flash FTF, IMG and SIN files (because this is flashtool after all...)
I came up with my method for people with bad internet and limited storage...
It actually is the official method, but with a "paste-press-copy-paste" procedure, although the main idea is about the same as all the others...
Basically, every method is based on the official way, but there's a bit of variation here and there...
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okay thanks....
DOWNLOADING

Let the Noob try it !!
Hey Guys,
I am a Noob and have been trying to unlock my bootloader for about a week now, I have tried a few methods without any joy.
I will give this a go and will report back if it works or not. :laugh:

Your problem might be one of these, if it doesn't work:
1. Your phone is not in fastboot mode -- did you check that?
2. You don't have the right drivers installed on your PC -- or do you?
3. Your phone's bootloader may not be unlockable -- now, if you didn't check that, you really are a noob.
4. Your unlock code is incorrect -- that was the case with me, but in the end that was the only problem...

someone755 said:
Your problem might be one of these, if it doesn't work:
1. Your phone is not in fastboot mode -- did you check that?
2. You don't have the right drivers installed on your PC -- or do you?
3. Your phone's bootloader may not be unlockable -- now, if you didn't check that, you really are a noob.
4. Your unlock code is incorrect -- that was the case with me, but in the end that was the only problem...
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Hi,
Thanks for the reply, the problem i have is with the drivers. I have tried different solutions as posted here and on the web.
But still could not get the drivers to work??
I will try this method as it states the drivers are included. If it all works awesome, if not then I fail and will forever be stuck with stock rom's.

Which windows are you running (vista, 7, 8, is it 32 or 64 bit?)?
Also, did you try with FlashTool's drivers?

someone755 said:
Which windows are you running (vista, 7, 8, is it 32 or 64 bit?)?
Also, did you try with FlashTool's drivers?
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I'm running windows 7 on a 64 bit laptop.
Tried the flashtool drivers also but still no joy, I check in device management for S1 and each time there is a problem installing the drivers.
I still have a PC running vista so might give that a try if all else fails.
Thanks for your help so far, will keep you updated with how I get on

[Q] May have bricked my N7 (deb)

So, first, the moral of this story is don't do stuff like this at 2AM after a long day at work.
Tonight, I decided to root my N7 and mess around with a few different roms. Well, apparently I didn't read pages carefully enough because I am now the proud owner of a deb tablet with a flo bootloader on it. My fastboot screen reads:
PRODUCT NAME - deb
VARIANT - deb 32G
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BOOTLOADER VERSION - FLO-04.02
BASEBAND VERSION - DEB-GOO_2.37.0_1024
I realized this when trying to install CM11, and got errors saying the package was for deb but device is flo.
I've tried to flash factory, but it still leaves me with the incorrect bootloader. FWIW, I'm doing this on a Mac, and won't have access to a PC for at least a few days. Any help would be really appreciated

jahames said:
So, first, the moral of this story is don't do stuff like this at 2AM after a long day at work.
Tonight, I decided to root my N7 and mess around with a few different roms. Well, apparently I didn't read pages carefully enough because I am now the proud owner of a deb tablet with a flo bootloader on it. My fastboot screen reads:
PRODUCT NAME - deb
VARIANT - deb 32G
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BOOTLOADER VERSION - FLO-04.02
BASEBAND VERSION - DEB-GOO_2.37.0_1024
I realized this when trying to install CM11, and got errors saying the package was for deb but device is flo.
I've tried to flash factory, but it still leaves me with the incorrect bootloader. FWIW, I'm doing this on a Mac, and won't have access to a PC for at least a few days. Any help would be really appreciated
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Have you just tried flashing the bootloader independently? Instead of flashing the full factory package?
On Mac the command will be ./fastboot flash bootloader <name of bootloader>.img
Hope this helps?
Stewart

StuMcBill said:
Have you just tried flashing the bootloader independently? Instead of flashing the full factory package?
On Mac the command will be ./fastboot flash bootloader <name of bootloader>.img
Hope this helps?
Stewart
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Yeah...gave that a shot too. Flash works, but when I reboot, it still gives me the flo bootloader

jahames said:
Yeah...gave that a shot too. Flash works, but when I reboot, it still gives me the flo bootloader
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Hmmm, weird! Are you totally sure you haven't downloaded the flo factory image by mistake? I know you will have checked already, but I can't really think of anything else?
Maybe try flashing an older bootloader version?

StuMcBill said:
Hmmm, weird! Are you totally sure you haven't downloaded the flo factory image by mistake? I know you will have checked already, but I can't really think of anything else?
Maybe try flashing an older bootloader version?
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Was working with the 4.4.2 image. Going to give the 4.4 a shot now

Same thing with 4.4...still stuck with the flo bootloader

Ok, I was able to flash back to stock, but when trying to flash the CM11 deb image, I got the same error, saying that the package is for deb but this is a flo. Help please?

jahames said:
Ok, I was able to flash back to stock, but when trying to flash the CM11 deb image, I got the same error, saying that the package is for deb but this is a flo. Help please?
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You flashed a recovery for flo. Flash one for deb.
Edit:
http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/deb

Reasonably sure I had a deb recovery, but apparently redownloading and reflashing the CWM image did the trick. Thanks!

if you ever have problems try nexus root toolkit. It works wonders if you ever severely mess up any nexus device.

Wug is also really good for this.
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same issue
Richieboy67 said:
Wug is also really good for this.
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I am sorry what is WUG, today a guy arrived to my shop with the same problem, wonder if anyone has a solution? thanks

skfalco said:
I am sorry what is WUG, today a guy arrived to my shop with the same problem, wonder if anyone has a solution? thanks
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Wug's has a toolkit. I prefere fastboot over toolkits.
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skfalco said:
I am sorry what is WUG, today a guy arrived to my shop with the same problem, wonder if anyone has a solution? thanks
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It is here
http://www.wugfresh.com/
It is a toolkit that makes these things very easy. I have used this many times and have never had any issues with it.
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LinearEquation said:
Wug's has a toolkit. I prefere fastboot over toolkits.
Sent from my Nexus 7 Flo running Odex SinLess ROM 4.4.2 with ElementalX kernel using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Well for beginners the toolkits make things very simple. This one has been around for a very long time and is very stable. I have never had any issues with this at all.
Just have to be sure you follow the simple instructions and make the right selections in the menus.. easy peasy..

Richieboy67 said:
Well for beginners the toolkits make things very simple. This one has been around for a very long time and is very stable. I have never had any issues with this at all.
Just have to be sure you follow the simple instructions and make the right selections in the menus.. easy peasy..
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I'm not doubting wug's toolkit. He obviously does a great job with it. I was new once too and I know once I discovered how easy it was to use commands it was like a new world. No more waiting on scripts and hoping tool kits would be updated, etc. Everyone has to learn and so I always offer fastboot options. There is also something to be said about working and earning your way to a mod versus a quick one click. My opinion, and you know what they say about opinions :good:

LinearEquation said:
I'm not doubting wug's toolkit. He obviously does a great job with it. I was new once too and I know once I discovered how easy it was to use commands it was like a new world. No more waiting on scripts and hoping tool kits would be updated, etc. Everyone has to learn and so I always offer fastboot options. There is also something to be said about working and earning your way to a mod versus a quick one click. My opinion, and you know what they say about opinions :good:
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Yes, I agree in some ways but not everyone wants to mess around all the time. Some people just want to take care of it and forget about it.
Personally I work with php,html,mysql and I also have to use ssh commands every day. When doing something simple such as a rom change I just prefer to open the toolkit and not worry about commands.
I agree if you plan on getting deeply into it then it would be best to learn everything and not reply on the toolkits.
Just my opinion though and I was talking about someone who may be doing this for the first time. Commands and the instructions can be very confusing when doing any of this for the first time.

Richieboy67 said:
Yes, I agree in some ways but not everyone wants to mess around all the time. Some people just want to take care of it and forget about it.
Personally I work with php,html,mysql and I also have to use ssh commands every day. When doing something simple such as a rom change I just prefer to open the toolkit and not worry about commands.
I agree if you plan on getting deeply into it then it would be best to learn everything and not reply on the toolkits.
Just my opinion though and I was talking about someone who may be doing this for the first time. Commands and the instructions can be very confusing when doing any of this for the first time.
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Relying on a toolkit can be disastrous because not all toolkits are alike and I have seen some brick devices. You don't have to want to get "deep" into Android to learn a little something. Some want a quick fix with no understanding of what they're doing do and others want to learn what's going on. There are many tablets that can only be restored with fastboot commands because no toolkit exists.

LinearEquation said:
Relying on a toolkit can be disastrous because not all toolkits are alike and I have seen some brick devices. You don't have to want to get "deep" into Android to learn a little something. Some want a quick fix with no understanding of what they're doing do and others want to learn what's going on. There are many tablets that can only be restored with fastboot commands because no toolkit exists.
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While not disastrous, I kind of know what you mean, I started with Wug's (and it is a great toolkit), but once I flashed my own kernel (I used francos app to autoflash so did not have to use recovery or fastboot), I did not realize that by using Wug's a week later that it would flash over that kernel to run those commands and NOT replace francos (I found I was back on stock), lucky by then I had learned enough to recover and no damage was done, but it does point out that my reliance had caused me more work and a bit of worry in the long run.
Still Wug's NRT is a great toolkit...but it should be used as a tool, not a replacement for knowing what to do without it.