Just wanted to let everyone know that Bell is stating their LG Optimus LTE is actually the LG P930 Nitro HD (as per the box and the internal OS). Seems to be a bit of confusion on the 'Net. Anyone able to figure this out? Comparison??? Bell vs. AT&T
Doesn't seem to be any sort of a huge difference? Seems basically the same to me other than a few things.
Confusion?
The Optimus LTE is heavier, lacks the extra 2 GB ram, adds the 1700MHz spectrum so it is compatible with WIND, comes with only an 8GB TF SDHC card, no fm radio. some are big differences i would think?
if you go LG.com, it listed Optimus LTE p930 same as Nitro p930.
specs?
If you look, the P930 has different specs than the LTE specs listed all over the 'Net. hence why i started this [Q] to clear up the 2 models conflicting with what Bell is sending out to customers vs. AT&T's Nitro HD P930.
My original [Q] is still unanswered: Bell is handing out the Optimus LTE 4G with boxes and firmware showing it is a P930, yet the specs for the P930 are different from what they are handing out. Which is the right P930??? Bell's or AT&T's?
There ARE differences. see my previous post for them.
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Doesn't seem to be any sort of a huge difference? Seems basically the same to me other than a few things.
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Sorry little off topic what the hell happened to your phones lol. some are kia and others exploded.
BOOM?!
Little off topic is true. maybe he's had bad luck or bad units or the zerglings got him?
Going off topic/the record, I have had the worse luck when it comes to phone this year.
-Atrix sorta burst into a tiny flame while charging
- 1st BB drowned, 2nd had faulty keys and the 3rd one permanently froze
- Whatever bugs/defects that were reported with the Sensation, happened to me
- The Torch and Bold basically died and wouldnt charge or turn on.
Thankfully, I have the PEP plan from Best Buy <3. Technically saved me over $3000 haha
repherb said:
Just wanted to let everyone know that Bell is stating their LG Optimus LTE is actually the LG P930 Nitro HD (as per the box and the internal OS). Seems to be a bit of confusion on the 'Net. Anyone able to figure this out? Comparison??? Bell vs. AT&T
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Wow, that's interesting. I knew they had differences in software but I didn't think they had some differences in hardware too, considering that they call the Optimus LTE a Nitro HD. Does my Nitro HD have a radio/FM antenna? How does one go about using it?
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The Optimus LTE is heavier, lacks the extra 2 GB ram, adds the 1700MHz spectrum so it is compatible with WIND, comes with only an 8GB TF SDHC card, no fm radio. some are big differences i would think?
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Optimus LTE and LG Nitro is the same phone! both phone listed as P930 on lg.com !
optimus lacks the extra 2gb ram? on my nitro, it listed Internal storage available space 1.53GB. i not even sure nitro has 4gb to begin with.
so nitro has fm radio? the nitro never comes with headset (att is getting cheap! haha) and there is no FM app preinstalled on Nitro!
Bell vs AT&T
Check out GSMArena. They have both phones listed and they are different. One is manufactured for Bell Canada and one is manufactured for AT&T. "They are different". The AT&T model has a radio with RDS the Bell one has no radio.. The AT&T model has only the one "LTE 700" frequency. the Bell has 700 and 1700. AT&T has 4 gig but Bell only 2 gig. Bell Canada LTE is rated at 75 Mbps, AT&T 21 max. There may be other differences. Check the site for yourself and see.
I am still debating which new phone to purchase and leaning to the LG. My current phone does not have the worlds greatest battery life so not getting a full day out of the LT is not a major concern. And talking for three hours,I don't think so.
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Check out GSMArena. They have both phones listed and they are different. One is manufactured for Bell Canada and one is manufactured for AT&T. "They are different". The AT&T model has a radio with RDS the Bell one has no radio.. The AT&T model has only the one "LTE 700" frequency. the Bell has 700 and 1700. AT&T has 4 gig but Bell only 2 gig. Bell Canada LTE is rated at 75 Mbps, AT&T 21 max.
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you know how to check out gsmarena but not att.com, lg.com or get the Nitro user manual from lg.com?? radio is never mentioned on nitro!
just cus it' on gsmarena, it must be accurate?
att version maxed out at 21mb? is there such a thing as LTE maxed out 21mb? haha
21mb is hspa+
I just did a speedtests on nitro and get 27mb!
not exactly reliable sources...
If your phone doesn't say "AT&T" above the screen, then you're getting the Optimus LTE. Only AT&T has the Nitro HD (name wise), and unless they're gonna bother switching out the glass/digitizer, you didn't get the nitro hd.
New Thread for Optimus LTE??
So based on each carriers website, and the manufacturer admitting they are different models, would it be out of line to start a separate thread for the LTE P930 vs. the Nitro P930 and set the naming convention to differentiate between the two models and XDA support?
Can a Mod give their input on this please??? I am just trying to clarify this before this thread gets bloated with unnecessary posts that will eventually lead to confusion and eventually blurs the line between the two models and set up some sort of clarity for future posts and support...
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So based on each carriers website, and the manufacturer admitting they are different models, would it be out of line to start a separate thread for the LTE P930 vs. the Nitro P930 and set the naming convention to differentiate between the two models and XDA support?
Can a Mod give their input on this please??? I am just trying to clarify this before this thread gets bloated with unnecessary posts that will eventually lead to confusion and eventually blurs the line between the two models and set up some sort of clarity for future posts and support...
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dude, it doesn't even matter. The Nexus S had i9023, i9020t, and i9020A and they coexist fine. The difference in radio(freq) just means you can't put out roms that changes the baseband.
don't you mean the fact the Optimus LTE has only 2GB of internal memory vs. 4GB of internal memory on the Nitro is also a large difference as well as the lack of the dual LTE frequencies vs the Nitro? or do we need to go further into the other hardware differences (ie: screens etc?)
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Tmobile website listed 850mzh umts, anyone tried with att sim yet? or we need to unlock the phone first?
yes this phone works on all carriers
do we have to unlock first? or phone comes unlocked?
excellent question
i'd like to know that too, as i'm waiting for it as well
he was referring to weather or not it supports at&t HSPA+
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he was referring to weather or not it supports at&t HSPA+
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and that was the answer...
TMONews.com alludes to this question as well...
I guess Allgamer confirmed the million dollar question for all of us
I guess this will be my future-proof phone (at&t merger or not) for the next year or so.
this is definitely the best phone for a while, until another beast comes along on a quad band hspda+
this phone is literally a 4x4
you can switch to any GSM cell phone provider that you want with the same phone without thinking twice.
i just bought the phone full price.
on the phone box it listed.
gsm 850, 900, 1800, 1900.
umts band 1 (2100), band II (1900), band iv (1700), band V (850)!
so this phone does supports 850/1900 3g too!
Well this is good news at least... I guess this phone is the lube that will make the brutal takeover a bit less painful.
It passed the FCC with AT&T 3G support, there is NO question that it has AT&T 3G support.
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It passed the FCC with AT&T 3G support, there is NO question that it has AT&T 3G support.
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So did another recent (in the past 6 months) T-Mobile phone, the G2x. The specs said it etc. I wasn't until after the phone was released and some people actually tried it that they found out it didn't work.
Same caution should go with this device, until someone puts a bloody AT&T sim in it and gets a testable connection treat the specs, web and box with a grain of salt.
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So did another recent (in the past 6 months) T-Mobile phone, the G2x. The specs said it etc. I wasn't until after the phone was released and some people actually tried it that they found out it didn't work.
Same caution should go with this device, until someone puts a bloody AT&T sim in it and gets a testable connection treat the specs, web and box with a grain of salt.
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No, the G2X was not tested by the FCC for AT&T 3G
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No, the G2X was not tested by the FCC for AT&T 3G
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Sorry again part of the confusions surrounding the G2X was a possible misstating by several blogs. http://pocketnow.com/android/lg-p999-passes-fcc-is-t-mobiles-g2x for example.
In the end though even if the FCC tests the phone to support those frequencies, the manuf lists the support and t-mob lists the support, until its tested by multiple users I wouldn't believe it. Sorry but I have been burned by to many manuf lies (I own a captivate need I say more) and too much incorrect information.
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Sorry again part of the confusions surrounding the G2X was a possible misstating by several blogs. http://pocketnow.com/android/lg-p999-passes-fcc-is-t-mobiles-g2x for example.
In the end though even if the FCC tests the phone to support those frequencies, the manuf lists the support and t-mob lists the support, until its tested by multiple users I wouldn't believe it. Sorry but I have been burned by to many manuf lies (I own a captivate need I say more) and too much incorrect information.
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That model number is for a different LG G2X that T-Mobile didn't sell.
The T-Mobile Galaxy S II is IDENTICAL to the Telus Galaxy S II X - it has 850/1700/1900 WCDMA bands. You can stop the skepticism.
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That model number is for a different LG G2X that T-Mobile didn't sell.
The T-Mobile Galaxy S II is IDENTICAL to the Telus Galaxy S II X - it has 850/1700/1900 WCDMA bands. You can stop the skepticism.
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Ahhh so if they are identical then I presume someone tested it on that one?
Specs schmecks like I said until tested its rumored to be supported. I'd love to see confirmations from a reputable source that they have taken an AT&T sim and popped it in. Until that happens people should be cautious is all I am saying. Don't buy a phone and get locked into a contract for a spec thats unproven. Just because the hardware support is there doesn't mean the software can even use it.
I'm not skeptical of that which is proven but I am cynical of that which is quoted without proof. It' not you, or anyone else in this thread but after a years of dealing with telco and manufacturer broken promises, half truth's and specs that are just this side of outright lies...
did LG G2x listed umts 850/1900 on phone box?
this tmobile galaxy s2 does listed umts 850/1900 on phone box!
that is like saying on a honda sticker it listed 500 hp and the car only has 200hp, that' fault advertising, you can sue them!
That is true, they speculated that the G2x COULD have AT&T 3G but didn't "unlock" the feature. There is only one true way to figure this all out, that is to unlock the phone and try an AT&T 3G sim in it
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did LG G2x listed umts 850/1900 on phone box?
this tmobile galaxy s2 does listed umts 850/1900 on phone box!
that is like saying on a honda sticker it listed 500 hp and the car only has 200hp, that' fault advertising, you can sue them!
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My captivate listed on the box it had a gps, oh its got one allright but it aint worth a crap.
Just because the box says it has it doesn't mean it functions well. It just means its present. It may drop a AT&T 3g call every second due to a software bug that may never get fixed.
Then again it may have a better tuned antenna than the AT&T SGS II and get better reception. We just dont know. We know what the marketing material says but they doe come out and say oops sometimes.
ok guys... this conversation is getting a bit derailed.
The original question and answer is for the SGH-T989 nothing to do with the LG G2x
so stop comparing Orange vs Lemons, or at least make a new topic for your comparison, instead of hijacking this topic
Thanks
AT&T's LG Nitro HD and Bell's LG Optimus LTE are both P930. Anything different on LG P935? Just saw this video: LG P935
The only difference is it has a multi-volt flux capacitor
That's it? I thought there ought to be more. Better battery perhaps.
@Sharpshooterrr,
I think he's yanking your chain (flux capacitor--Back to the Future). At this point it looks like the exact same device as our Nitro HD and the Optimus 4G LTE released for Bell, but maybe is just Telus' version. I'm intrigued to know if there are legitimate hardware differences that make it superior, but I'm kind of doubting there are.
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AT&T's LG Nitro HD and Bell's LG Optimus LTE are both P930. Anything different on LG P935? Just saw this video: LG P935
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http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3202&c=lg_p935_optimus_4g_lte It's just another operator-locked model, for some canadian 'Telus'
seems no other differences from Bell's P930. Seems like this list http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419940 is to be appended
a multi-volt flux capacitor
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what's that? a charger? canadian p930 has 110-240V charger
@Billy Madison,
It's a joke lol. The flux capacitor was the part in the DeLorean in the Back to the Future films that was responsible for time travel. That's what I was trying to tell Sharpshooterrr in my post above ^
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@Sharpshooterrr,
I think he's yanking your chain (flux capacitor--Back to the Future). At this point it looks like the exact same device as our Nitro HD and the Optimus 4G LTE released for Bell, but maybe is just Telus' version. I'm intrigued to know if there are legitimate hardware differences that make it superior, but I'm kind of doubting there are.
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Lol, and I thought it was something far too technical for me to understand.
Sorry folks...just a little attempt at sense of humor...sometimes the forums get a little serious so just poking fun
I thought everyone knew about the flux-capacitor. LOL
If they don't they need to!
So... Rogers Optimus G is LG-E971 and not E973. Should there be another Canadian forum section for this?
Is the E973 the version for Bell or Telus?
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Is the E973 the version for Bell or Telus?
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Both of them are e973 i believe.
Probably should just use one forum for all the Canadian devices since there is not a huge difference between the three. Just name it properly.
Sent from my LG-E973 using xda app-developers app
from what i know all 3 devices are the same in-terms of specs but the Rogers version uses 2600 LTE frequency while Bell/Telus are still at 700. Not sure if its just a softwrae setting or the LTE chip might be different. To me i'm leaning toward software settings, but I really haven't looked to much into it because i'm with Bell.
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from what i know all 3 devices are the same in-terms of specs but the Rogers version uses 2600 LTE frequency while Bell/Telus are still at 700. Not sure if its just a softwrae setting or the LTE chip might be different. To me i'm leaning toward software settings, but I really haven't looked to much into it because i'm with Bell.
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Regardless, this specific forum is for DEVELOPMENT, not discussion.
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Regardless, this specific forum is for DEVELOPMENT, not discussion.
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If there are hardware differences, then the Rogers device needs it's own development section.
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from what i know all 3 devices are the same in-terms of specs but the Rogers version uses 2600 LTE frequency while Bell/Telus are still at 700. Not sure if its just a softwrae setting or the LTE chip might be different. To me i'm leaning toward software settings, but I really haven't looked to much into it because i'm with Bell.
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2600 is a new frequency specific to Rogers. 700 is not used. Robellus uses 1700/2100 (AWS) for LTE.
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If there are hardware differences, then the Rogers device needs it's own development section.
2600 is a new frequency specific to Rogers. 700 is not used. Robellus uses 1700/2100 (AWS) for LTE.
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The point is, discuss this in the general forum, not the DEVELOPMENT FORUM.
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The point is, discuss this in the general forum, not the DEVELOPMENT FORUM.
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yoooo mississauga got some sexy asian chicks ay. lol.
but on a "development note" it would be nice for someone to comfirm that bell, telus, rogers devices are sharing same type of hardware so that way no one will not brick or mess up real bad flashing a custom rom/kernel from one phone company device to another of the same country. just saying. but if these canadian companies has major differences between the two devices then that adds to my list of questions. why this country dont make sense but always down to make dollars!
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just double check and this is the GENERAL SECTION so why cant ppl ask "general questions"?
So are these two phones the same hardware ?
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They're not the same. The LTE chip is different at the very least. Canada doesn't have 700Mhz, so LTE comes from 2600Mhz that Rogers is rolling out. The standard frequencies for LTE are AWS frequencies.
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yoooo mississauga got some sexy asian chicks ay. lol.
but on a "development note" it would be nice for someone to comfirm that bell, telus, rogers devices are sharing same type of hardware so that way no one will not brick or mess up real bad flashing a custom rom/kernel from one phone company device to another of the same country. just saying. but if these canadian companies has major differences between the two devices then that adds to my list of questions. why this country dont make sense but always down to make dollars!
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just double check and this is the GENERAL SECTION so why cant ppl ask "general questions"?
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Because thread got moved.. And there's nothing to do in Mississauga!!! Plus sexy Asian chicks are everywhere
solomon4400 said:
yoooo mississauga got some sexy asian chicks ay. lol.
but on a "development note" it would be nice for someone to comfirm that bell, telus, rogers devices are sharing same type of hardware so that way no one will not brick or mess up real bad flashing a custom rom/kernel from one phone company device to another of the same country. just saying. but if these canadian companies has major differences between the two devices then that adds to my list of questions. why this country dont make sense but always down to make dollars!
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just double check and this is the GENERAL SECTION so why cant ppl ask "general questions"?
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So far, according to a couple people who have tried, CM 10.1 being ported from the N4 works on all the Canadian devices. In terms of whether the network connectivity poses any problems, nobody has mentioned anything about LTE issues on the Rogers phone, and neither chadouming nor myself have the E971.
So, the hardware seems to be basically identical (minus the modem) at this point, until we hear someone say something to the contrary.
It stands to reason that if the N4 can work on all major three with LTE after a settings change, then the Optimus G should be the same, just a different modem for frequency difference.
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So far, according to a couple people who have tried, CM 10.1 being ported from the N4 works on all the Canadian devices. In terms of whether the network connectivity poses any problems, nobody has mentioned anything about LTE issues on the Rogers phone, and neither chadouming nor myself have the E971.
So, the hardware seems to be basically identical (minus the modem) at this point, until we hear someone say something to the contrary.
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whot u mean no wi-fi no nfc ?
iEthos said:
whot u mean no wi-fi no nfc ?
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There were problems with wifi and nfc not working but those have since been fixed
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Mryella said:
There were problems with wifi and nfc not working but those have since been fixed
Sent from my LG-E971 using Tapatalk 2
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Yes WIFI is working but NFC is not yet.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
Never mind, I figured it out...
Alright so the point of this thread is to help people with their LG Optimus G for Rogers Wireless in Canada, also known simply as E971
Here are the official specs:
from LG:
http://www.lg.com/ca_en/cell-phones/lg-LGE971-optimus-g
from Rogers:
http://www.rogers.com/web/link/wire...normal&productId_Detailed=OPTIMUSGBLK&N=52+11
The main difference from this phone and the E973 version is the 700/2600mhz LTE frequency for Rogers as opposed to 700/1700 for Bell/Telus/Sasktel
The 2600MHz LTE spectrum (2x20MHz band) is the frequency used for LTE that has the most bandwidth available making it the fastest LTE band. Typical download speeds experienced will range from 12 Mbps up to 40Mbps. -from the Roger's site
This means that LTE will not work with other LTE such as BELL or TELUS unless they roll out a 700/2600mhz network, Fido piggy backs on Rogers and *should* work
Here are some of the more important threads to have your phone rooted and have a unlocked bootloader, up to know i do not know of any custom roms available for the E971
Give these guys your thanks and donate if you can
You'll have to root first then unlock the bootloader
Root:
Bin4ry's Root MANY ANDROID
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
(confirmed working on E97120D)
unlocked bootloader:
Team Codefire's Project FreeGee
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2007961
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=edu.shell.freegee (Donate)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=edu.shell.freegee_free (Free)
If you want to keep your root and unlocked Bootloader do not update to the latest OTA (E97110E_00), you will lose root permanatly and Bin4ry's methode will not work anymore the previous version is linked at the 2nd post (E97110D_00)
more info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2053880
to disable the OTA app:
"Disable" via Settings > Apps > All > Software Update > Tap Disable.
or freeze with Titanium Backup "Software Update 3.1.0"
Removing carrierware (only do if you have v0.5+ of FreeGee and Root or else you'll get a the security error bootloop)
You'll also receive the Security error if you tinker with the Google Apps that come with this phone (ex, google movies, google books, etc)
remove or delete the .apk , freezing with Titanium works as well
Locations
/vendor/apps-rgs/
/system/vendor/apps-rgs/
/data/app-system
Other Stuff
E971 wont work with Bell LTE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2000629
USB Drivers:
http://www.lg.com/ca_en/support-mobile/lg-LGE971
[STOCK ROM] LG Optimus G CANADA E971 E973 Firmware / Service Manual
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2036404
working Roms:
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CyanogenMod 10.1 by chadouming
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2031261
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[4.2.2] AOKP - geeb CDN *unofficial* by Paulicat
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2318196
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[UNOFFICIAL]AOSPA-3.69 :Hello Halo by x10forevers
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383089
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A nice debloated stock rom found here (based off E)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2098777
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Jelly bean is here for root and unlocked bootloader users:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...2#post37437712
follow instructions exaclty as described in OP
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KDZ:
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This makes me even MORE glad I bought an E970 instead of the E971. The Rogers phone doesn't even support both THEIR OWN FREQUENCIES, because the AWS band would mean the phone could easily be used on Telus or Bell. So the E971 doesn't actually get better LTE coverage than Galaxy S2s or iPhone5s by offering both bands Rogers supports.
The E971 supports 2600 and 700, 700 being the main frequency for AT&T in the US which is shared with the E970 but not supported by ANY carrier in Canada until after the 700mhz spectrum auction which isn't for another YEAR. But with an E970 on Rogers I still get the AWS band , and it is ALSO usable on Bell or Telus!
So overall, the AT&T phone gives just as good coverage out of the box, and better options for changing carriers and roaming than either regular Canadian model.
**** you, Rogers.
Thank you! This is very helpful!
amrando said:
This makes me even MORE glad I bought an E970 instead of the E971. The Rogers phone doesn't even support both THEIR OWN FREQUENCIES, because the AWS band would mean the phone could easily be used on Telus or Bell. So the E971 doesn't actually get better LTE coverage than Galaxy S2s or iPhone5s by offering both bands Rogers supports.
The E971 supports 2600 and 700, 700 being the main frequency for AT&T in the US which is shared with the E970 but not supported by ANY carrier in Canada until after the 700mhz spectrum auction which isn't for another YEAR. But with an E970 on Rogers I still get the AWS band , and it is ALSO usable on Bell or Telus!
So overall, the AT&T phone gives just as good coverage out of the box, and better options for changing carriers and roaming than either regular Canadian model.
**** you, Rogers.
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With all due respect, unless you plan on changing carriers, then the E971 does in fact have the fastest up/down speeds. 2600 is basically empty right now, like driving a Ferrari down an empty highway. Not many people buy a phone knowing they'll be switching carriers - I certainly don't.
On a separate note, anyone else get a little happy tingle inside everytime the LTE icon comes on?
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With all due respect, unless you plan on changing carriers, then the E971 does in fact have the fastest up/down speeds. 2600 is basically empty right now, like driving a Ferrari down an empty highway. Not many people buy a phone knowing they'll be switching carriers - I certainly don't.
On a separate note, anyone else get a little happy tingle inside everytime the LTE icon comes on?
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im in Winnipeg = no LTE lol
fingers crossed for 2013
BloodBaron said:
im in Winnipeg = no LTE lol
fingers crossed for 2013
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Move to Toronto - I'll find you your dream home !
(I'm a Real Estate Agent with Royal LePage)
I thought Rogers uses AWS frequencies for LTE... How else would the Nexus 4 get LTE? Because I know the Canadian mobile industry has an upcoming 700Mhz auction coming up and everyone wants the small 3 to win it.
Proof: http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/03/14/o...13-plus-were-loosening-telecom-foreign-rules/
More proof: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...33+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-a
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I thought Rogers uses AWS frequencies for LTE... How else would the Nexus 4 get LTE? Because I know the Canadian mobile industry has an upcoming 700Mhz auction coming up and everyone wants the small 3 to win it.
Proof: http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/03/14/o...13-plus-were-loosening-telecom-foreign-rules/
More proof: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...33+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-a
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as far as i know the optimus g specs from LG/Rogers say the phone uses 700/2600 bands, im sure rogers has 700/1700 AWS deployed as well for other lte capable phones,
well that would be my best guess
From what I've read Rogers has the standard AWS frequency LTE, but is also rolling out an additional 2600MHz network in addition to AWS, providing a nice empty spectrum and supposedly better coverage in rural areas. This is supposed to be in partnership with Bell, but Bell is apparently not supporting the frequency at this time. This lead to my issues with Bell LTE linked in the OP.
In theory, if you have 2600MHz coverage, you should be able to get better throughput due to the empty spectrum, but in practice (from my limited testing) you get generally the same speeds as any other Rogers LTE phone (such as the iPhone, which is not using 2600MHz).
Has anyone tried the Base 0.5 Rom over in the at&t optimus G forum. Just wondering if it would work for the E91.
If you have what are your results?
cfoucher said:
Has anyone tried the Base 0.5 Rom over in the at&t optimus G forum. Just wondering if it would work for the E91.
If you have what are your results?
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I think someone did flash it. They said it worked. I'm not sure how because I thought partitions were different. I think it was an E973 though.
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cfoucher said:
Has anyone tried the Base 0.5 Rom over in the at&t optimus G forum. Just wondering if it would work for the E91.
If you have what are your results?
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dimsler said:
I have installed this rom on the E971 Rogers edition, all seems to work fine.
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from the att dev thread
gonna try later today myself
BloodBaron said:
from the att dev thread
gonna try later today myself
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just flashed the_Base_v05 rom from att forum
didnt seem to do a thing altho everything seemed to "flash" ok
BloodBaron said:
just flashed the_Base_v05 rom from att forum
didnt seem to do a thing altho everything seemed to "flash" ok
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So it works? What about the LTE?
geokilla said:
So it works? What about the LTE?
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No it didn't apply any of actual changes just flashed successfully
I chose the Gmail 4.2 option and I'm still on the stock version
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Hello Dear Winnipeger,
So as the OP suggests, I assume that I can achieve root on the link provided right? Anyone can confirm this?
I luv yah all!
EDIT: and yes it's working.....root achieved
Yup that's the root method I used as well works very well
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BloodBaron said:
Yup that's the root method I used as well works very well
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Yeah, I need to make my searching skills better. I did not know that there is A "Super One-Click Root" for ICS/JB. I believe in 2.2 and 2.3 days, there is one like this piece of rooting method but the development stopped after 2.3 for ICS has a very different system. Now some genius came up with this one....simply awesome!
EDIT: and it is a good idea to push "SuperSU" rather than the traditional Superuser app. It works better on Android devices with a custom UI on it. In other notes, I unlocked the bootloader (i think) but I don't see any indications on boot screen whatsoever that indicates that the device is unlocked. Maybe I failed on the boot loader unlock...
joncwchao said:
From what I've read Rogers has the standard AWS frequency LTE, but is also rolling out an additional 2600MHz network in addition to AWS, providing a nice empty spectrum and supposedly better coverage in rural areas. This is supposed to be in partnership with Bell, but Bell is apparently not supporting the frequency at this time. This lead to my issues with Bell LTE linked in the OP.
In theory, if you have 2600MHz coverage, you should be able to get better throughput due to the empty spectrum, but in practice (from my limited testing) you get generally the same speeds as any other Rogers LTE phone (such as the iPhone, which is not using 2600MHz).
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Correct
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I want to upgrade from my S2 to a new phone. I love the Nexus4, BUT, has no SD slot, and you can not even order one.
So, I was thinking on the Optimus G. Now, my question for all of you with the handset is, would you still buy it today?
One important thing for me is "hackability", meaning, I want to run clear/custom roms on it, as I do not like bloatware.
In that regard, the S2 is wonderful, and we already have JB 4.2.1 running very smoothly.
Why I'm interested on the Optimus G? As far as I understand is VERY similar to the Nexus 4, and so I assume it would be easy to have roms ported from it.
So, what are your thoughts?
As for today, thats the best phone on market, but its mid of January already, so a new/better models will come out really soon.
Thanks Tim4, for your response.
Lets forget that a new one would probably come out soon, would you still buy it considering all the I said, specially the hackability request?
Tough to say as there is currently development towards more solid bootloader and rooting options but who knows how it will all pan out. Same goes with roms, there is not a lot yet so who knows.
I am rooted and have frozen/uninstalled the apps that I don't want on the device so for me this is good enough. The phone itself is fantastic and I'm very pleased with it, even without JB. But yes, news phones like s4 and xperia z will give the g a run for it if not beat it outright, but regardless of that this phone is a beast.
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Well, to put you in context, I went and bought a Razr MAXX. In brief, very poor roms support, so I sold it after 2 days.
There are too many versions for Optimus G, US has E970, Canadian has 971,973, Korean has their version, also the international version E975 might gonna come out soon. ROM development might takes longer I think. At least we gotta wait until LG release the 4.1.2 JB in order to have more JB ROMs
About the phone. I had the S II too, I loved it. I think Optimus G has even better design, and of course more powerful.
Running great on CM10.1, I believe it will be even better when LG comes out the JB source.
So, if you likes the phone, how it looks, then go for it.
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bryanlimy said:
There are too many versions for Optimus G, US has E970, Canadian has 971,973, Korean has their version, also the international version E975 might gonna come out soon. ROM development might takes longer I think. At least we gotta wait until LG release the 4.1.2 JB in order to have more JB ROMs
About the phone. I had the S II too, I loved it. I think Optimus G has even better design, and of course more powerful.
Running great on CM10.1, I believe it will be even better when LG comes out the JB source.
So, if you likes the phone, how it looks, then go for it.
sent from my Optimus G E971
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Thanks for your reply.
I want the AT&T version E970, cause it is compatible with my country 3G bands, unless all have the same bands, or are quad band or something, or unless there is a problem with the E970 one.
You coming from the S2, do you think his battery last longer? How much longer? I'm asking cause I realized that the battery is non removable, and I'm always about 2 to 4 hours short on the S2.
Thanks!
The E973 already has a near perfect CyanogenMod 10.1 port, AOKP 4.2.1 build and of course an unlocked boot loader and can be rooted. So I'm pretty happy with this, especially since the big two are already on board. Team Nocturnal is also working on this phone.
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Compare to S II, the battery on Optimus G (E971) is a lot longer. For S II, I used to bring 2 extra batteries with me just in case, but now with OG I don't need to bring my extreme battery.
I would say around 30-40% more.
On both stock and CM10.1
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Thanks Tim4, for your response.
Lets forget that a new one would probably come out soon, would you still buy it considering all the I said, specially the hackability request?
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Yeah, i would.
The international version of optimus g still didnt appear on market, i believe that the main reason of slow developing.
USA/Korea/Canada/Japan and may be AUS the only countries optimus g available in.
Btw some guy asked LG about the international version, and he was told it definitely will out in Q1
vpetkar said:
The E973 already has a near perfect CyanogenMod 10.1 port, AOKP 4.2.1 build and of course an unlocked boot loader and can be rooted. So I'm pretty happy with this, especially since the big two are already on board. Team Nocturnal is also working on this phone.
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Well, I'm mostly interested on the E970 or E971 versions, as the 3G is compatible with my country, the E973 is not. How is the root/roms/etc on those?
By the way, this table is correct?
LG Optimus G E970
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100
LG Optimus G E971 (Rogers)
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 / 2600
LG Optimus G E973 / LG F180
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 2100
4G Network LTE ???
bryanlimy said:
Compare to S II, the battery on Optimus G (E971) is a lot longer. For S II, I used to bring 2 extra batteries with me just in case, but now with OG I don't need to bring my extreme battery. I would say around 30-40% more.On both stock and CM10.1
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That is VERY GOOD NEWS!
Tim4 said:
Yeah, i would.
The international version of optimus g still didnt appear on market, i believe that the main reason of slow developing.
USA/Korea/Canada/Japan and may be AUS the only countries optimus g available in. Btw some guy asked LG about the international version, and he was told it definitely will out in Q1
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What would be the advantage of the international version?
The advantage is more users will use optimus g = more developers will appear here = more custom roms will be available
Make the move bro! I went from the S2 to the AT&T Optimus G, originally i was going to upgrade to the overrated S3 or wait on the S4(but found out rumors saying screen size is 4.99inch which is too big and rocking Exynos Octa Core which i doubt we'd need and delay of how long USA would get a version) But a nice rep from AT&T store recommended the OG, and i have to say is i am blown away with the looks and performance of the device. The only deal breaker is the lack of accessories like an OEM car dock and non-removable but sooner or later everyone will transistion to non removable battery. Yes the LGOG is lacking ROM Dev, but i know that this is a fairly new device, give it a couple weeks to a few months and development will go crazy!
I never looked back, yes the S2 was a slamming device even up to now, but i needed to update and the OG is good enough rocking the first Quad Core CPU with LTE bands
This phone is simply amazing. Screen is beautiful, absolutely no lags on heavy multitasking, good battery, lte.. Even on mostly stock rom, simply the best phone to get into my hands. The screen, man.. The screen And the fluidity.. - - It is a joy to use, still looks like a (sexy, classy, sleek) phone compared to the galaxy note 2's size, exemple.
Did I mention the amazing screen, and the fluidity of animations + browsing?
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I like the phone very much, but the lack of root/roms makes me very nervous
I just bought 2 today. They are buy one get one free at sprint.
I'm guessing the pro is coming very soon.