First, here's how I scored my Nitro for $50 (on contract).
Currently AT&T (instore and online) is selling the Nitro with an instant $100 off.
If you go to http://www.retailmenot.com/view/att.com and click through their AT&T Promo link that's another $100 off. So now the phone costs $50 (plus tax) and free 2-day shipping.
As you can see in my signature, I'm a Nexus One user. The very MINUTE the phone was available for order on their site, I did.
I was a devout Nexus fan (actually, still love my Nexus One), I love the notion of no-bloat and completely open ended system. When the Galaxy Nexus was due, you can imagine my excitement. Now imagine my complete frustration with the constant delays and misinformation. I was also quite disappointed that Google decided to put the 1.2GHz Exynos CPU in their supposed "Hardware platform pusher" phone. Blah!
But during the time I eagerly awaiting the GNex, I see a new offering from Samsung in the salacious Galaxy Note! a 5.3" beauty with all the guts of the GNex (actually, a FASTER processor with 1.4GHz Exynos) and a stylus with Wacom certified screen!...But dammit!, no US version! The International GSM version will work on AT&T, but NOT 4g LTE! And the Note's Verizon LTE version would have the snapdragon with the Adreno 205 GPU in it (OLD, WEAK GPU!!).
Too many strikes against the front runners and too many yummies for the Nitro underdog!
Are you able to upgrade a line using this, or is it just New Customers/Add a line?
I'd imagine this is for New Customers only...At least for the extra $100 from retailmenot:
*Offer requires online activation via att.com/wireless on qualified rate plans $39.99 or more with a two-year agreement. iPhone, GoPhone, netbooks, and certain other devices not eligible. Certain devices require a minimum data or messaging plan. Discount will be automatically applied to your shopping cart. Credit approval and other restrictions apply.
I can't get any of the discounts to show up, at least over a week later.
Sadly that RetailMeNot discount could be regional. I've heard quite a few others had issues getting the discount to work in other areas (I'm in the NJ area).
Another good reason to choose the Nitro over those two - no screen burn-in.
There are more to processors than the mhz rating. the 1.2 A9 in the gnex absolutley destroys the nitro's 1.5....Also take a look at the development between both, enough said!
Just curious, was/is Glaxy Nexus expected for AT&T network?
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Just curious, was/is Glaxy Nexus expected for AT&T network?
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Yes, based on leaked FCC specs 3G only, no LTE. But this is kind of speculation only.
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There are more to processors than the mhz rating. the 1.2 A9 in the gnex absolutley destroys the nitro's 1.5....Also take a look at the development between both, enough said!
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"absolutely destroys" the Nitro's 1.5? Really? Any actual proof of that? And I'm not talking about specsheet comparisons, I mean actual benchmarks.
Seriously though, I've been searching the net and can't find any decent benches for comparison between these 2.
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"absolutely destroys" the Nitro's 1.5? Really? Any actual proof of that? And I'm not talking about specsheet comparisons, I mean actual benchmarks.
Seriously though, I've been searching the net and can't find any decent benches for comparison between these 2.
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The Snapdragon APQ8060 is just naturally slower then the 1.2GHz OMAP4 in the GNexus, because it's Cortex A9.
Qualcomm used a modified Cortex A8 design for more battery efficiency, but you sacrifice horsepower.
Now the 1.2GHz Exynos chip... that is a battery drainer, but the amount of horsepower that thing has is just godly.
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There are more to processors than the mhz rating. the 1.2 A9 in the gnex absolutley destroys the nitro's 1.5....Also take a look at the development between both, enough said!
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nitro destroyed by galacy nexus:
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nitro destroyed by galacy nexus:
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Time after time benchmarks have proven to be inaccurate. The Galaxy Nexus's processor is much faster than the Nitro's.
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Time after time benchmarks have proven to be inaccurate. The Galaxy Nexus's processor is much faster than the Nitro's.
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i was replying to the following poster's request for a benchmark, i provided one. you are free to interpret it anyway you choose, even discount it entirely, it makes no difference to me. I interpret it to correspond to my real world use of the nitro. as experience proves time and again, it's not always a faster processor that makes a fine performing phone.
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"absolutely destroys" the Nitro's 1.5? Really? Any actual proof of that? And I'm not talking about specsheet comparisons, I mean actual benchmarks.
Seriously though, I've been searching the net and can't find any decent benches for comparison between these 2.
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The Snapdragon APQ8060 is just naturally slower then the 1.2GHz OMAP4 in the GNexus, because it's Cortex A9.
Qualcomm used a modified Cortex A8 design for more battery efficiency, but you sacrifice horsepower.
Now the 1.2GHz Exynos chip... that is a battery drainer, but the amount of horsepower that thing has is just godly.
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This is yet more conjecture. After more digging I've attached an image I found from one of Anandtech.com's articles, showing a comparison chart between the ARM Cortex A8, A9 and our Nitro's Qualcomm Scorpion.
Indeed while searching for more technical information on the architecture of the APQ8060 chip I found some info that it's based on the ARM Cortex A8, but if you look at the attached image...The Scorpion is mostly equal to or HIGHER SPEC than the A9, such as in pipeline-depth and NEON.
Now, since we're talking about System-on-Chip here, let's not forget what GPU the GNex is using vs. the Nitro... PowerVR SGX540 vs. the Adreno 220 in the Nitro. Doesn't take much searching to find the Adreno 220 is superior to the SGX540 and here's a few benches showing the Nitro higher on the performance results vs. GNex:
OpenGL-ES 2.0 graphics performance benchmark:
http://nena.se/nenamark/view?version=2
As to the remark that benchmarks are inaccurate...Well I certainly agree that I've seen my fair share of benches being debunked or showing inaccurate info based on outdated software, but at least their TESTED results and not just opinions based on spec sheets.
OpenGL-ES 2.0 graphics performance benchmark:
i have a few more days before my 30 days is up with the nitro, seriously debating whether or not to return it and just get an SGS2, because the nitro doesn't seem to be selling in volumes enough to get real dev support
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Samsung has just announced theGalaxy S II LTE*& LTE HD (4.65" screen) handset
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"GALAXY S II HD LTESamsung Electronics declared the launch of the Mobile HD era by unveiling the world's first LTE smartphone with the HD Super AMOLED GALAXY S II HD LTE.With HD (1280X720) resolution, the HD Super AMOLED is the first AMOLED display to feature 316 pixels per inch (ppi), higher than the standard 300ppi, resulting in substantial improvements in screen sharpness and readability.A wide variety of high-resolution content services that are provided via the LTE communication network, such as high-resolution video telephony, real-time VOD services, and network games, can be enjoyed more vividly thanks to the HD SuperAMOLED.The GALAXY S II HD LTE will serve as an 'HD theater in hand' by offering an optimal environment for watching films, including the large 4.65-inch screen, screen ratio of 16:9, 110％ natural color reproduction, and 180-degree viewing angle that ensures a clear image from far left or right.The phone supports multiple modes including LTE, HSPA＋ (for SKT and KT) and Rev.A (for LGU＋), and WCDMA/GSM (roaming), enabling a domestic user to seamlessly access the fastest high speed wireless Internet.Substantial improvements were made to the design as well. The narrow bezel technology was employed for the front to make the frame of the 4.65-inch AMOLED display as thin as possible. Emphasis was thus placed on a slim, refined design. The slim feature (9.5mm) ensures a more comfortable grip.Other cutting-edge smartphone functions are provided, including a large battery capacity of 1850mAh, NFC (Near Field Communication), flash support, 8 megapixel camera, WiFi a/b/g/n support, and Bluetooth 3.0＋HS.※ The LTE speed specified above is based on theoretical value (LTE bandwidth of 10MHz each). The actual speed may differ according to the LTE bandwidth, communications standard, and usage environment. Areas where LTE services are provided may differ among operators."
Source: http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...i-hd-lte-handset/&category=classic&postPage=1
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Not coming to the US do couldn't care less, bice phones though
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Not a fan of 16:9 at all. It really is a shame that it's becoming the new standard.
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The 5.6 inch model is almost an exact coppy of rumored specs for the next nexus. So I don't know about it notcomming to us.
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Not a fan of 16:9 at all. It really is a shame that it's becoming the new standard.
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Yeah I don't like 16:9 either, I prefer a much wider screen.
This is running a "1.5ghz dual core." I'm thinking this is a Qualcomm chipset, and Adreno220 with 720p doesn't sound all that great.
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It better pack an exyenos or we're benching it out.
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I am pretty happy with my GS2 so I think I can hold out for a little bit and still feel like I have a great device even when these next phones come out. Now if I still had an EVO 3D I am not so sure I would feel the same way.
A 4.5" Super Amoled Plus screen will keep me happy for a little while. Not to mention this flys!
This is basically going to be T-Mobiles inferior phone with an upgraded display and NFC. We'll be able to out process them.
This is what the U.S. carriers should have released. Waiting 5 months after the original launch of the Galaxy SII, there were rumors of the U.S. getting a "+" version with spec bumps, well that never happened. This is a slap in the face to the U.S. carriers in my opinion, I mean ATT and T-Mobile have not even released their Galaxy SII's yet, and now there is a better/upgraded version. Not cool
Not coming to the US, unless you are importing it and if you can, it would be extremely expensive
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These new phones use the Qualcomm 1.5GHz S3 Snapdragon processors. They are not the Exynos processor! Also, it has been said that the Prime will use Ti's OMAP processor.
Yeah, even if this this is coming to the US....it's going to be like 6 months...same thing happened with our GS2.
no Exynos + Mali400 = EPIC FAIL
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These new phones use the Qualcomm 1.5GHz S3 Snapdragon processors. They are not the Exynos processor! Also, it has been said that the Prime will use Ti's OMAP processor.
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The Exynos is better than the OMAP processors correct?
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The Exynos is better than the OMAP processors correct?
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They are both ARM processors, these names refer to the integrated "SoC" (System On a Chip).
"Hummingbird", "OMAPx", "Snapdragon", "TegraX", "Exynos", these are all platform names that (roughly) describe the system that is on the chip. (EDIT: The "system" typically consists of the CPU, GPU, memory controller and I/O, with slightly varying versions of each platform possible)
That's the very simplified version of it. OMAP and Snapdragon and Tegra have versions, Hummingbird and Exynos, so far as I understand it, are different versions of Samsung's evolving platform.
So, this generations Samsung platform ("Exynos") is likely outclassed by anything from the next generation...the OMAP platforms also have a really good reputation--and for good reason. Personally, I'm thrilled at the idea of a Samsung built next-gen OMAP Nexus device.
Personally, I'm thrilled at the idea of a Samsung built next-gen OMAP Nexus device.[/QUOTE]
^this
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They are both ARM processors, these names refer to the integrated "SoC" (System On a Chip).
"Hummingbird", "OMAPx", "Snapdragon", "TegraX", "Exynos", these are all platform names that (roughly) describe the system that is on the chip. (EDIT: The "system" typically consists of the CPU, GPU, memory controller and I/O, with slightly varying versions of each platform possible)
That's the very simplified version of it. OMAP and Snapdragon and Tegra have versions, Hummingbird and Exynos, so far as I understand it, are different versions of Samsung's evolving platform.
So, this generations Samsung platform ("Exynos") is likely outclassed by anything from the next generation...the OMAP platforms also have a really good reputation--and for good reason. Personally, I'm thrilled at the idea of a Samsung built next-gen OMAP Nexus device.
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Oh wow, I didn't know that the Nexus Prime would use a next gen processor.
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Oh wow, I didn't know that the Nexus Prime would use a next gen processor.
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I'm thinking this GS II LTE phone is in fact what the Nexus prime will be and I have to say, that display is damn attractive. I'm so confused. NFC, higher res 4.65 inch screen, Ice cream sandwich and google updates, the ultimate nexus phone that will have high developer activity. That freakin display is may be too nice to pass up.
Att has a galaxy s2 LTE coming in the 4th quarter of this year
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...tandt-lte-secret/&category=classic&postPage=1
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I am pretty happy with my GS2 so I think I can hold out for a little bit and still feel like I have a great device even when these next phones come out. Now if I still had an EVO 3D I am not so sure I would feel the same way.
A 4.5" Super Amoled Plus screen will keep me happy for a little while. Not to mention this flys!
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You "can hold out for a little bit" hahaha this phone ain't even 15 days old yet..... holy sh*t your a tard
This seems to align with my earlier statements that the GSIII will more likely be a dual-core CPU at 2-2.5Ghz rather than a quad-core at 1-1.5Ghz.
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Did the murmurings about a quad-core Galaxy S III this morning leave you feeling a bit... meh? We don't blame you. Sure, four cores and integrated LTE sounds great but (and this is a big "but"), Cortex-A9 is old hat. What we really want to hear about are those upcoming Cortex-A15 chips. Well, this should get your blood flowing -- a slide has leaked, allegedly loaded with detailed Exynos 5 specs. Looks like initial entrants will have a pair of A15 cores running at 2GHz, backed up by a quad-core Mali T-604 MP4 GPU. All of that will supposedly be built with Samsung's new 32nm High-K Metal Gate process. We've been unable to independently verify these details, but they are in line with what we've been led to expect. Still, until some Sammy PR comes down the pipeline we're taking everything with a grain of salt.
- Engadget
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I'm more excited for this than the quad-core.
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What are the advantages of a15 over a9? smaller and higher clock speed? Anything else?
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Gotta love the rumor mill. It may also come with wireless charging capabilities.
http://phandroid.com/2012/03/19/samsung-galaxy-s-iiis-secret-weapon-is-wireless-charging-rumor/
All I know is only that phone can lure me away from this one
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All I know is only that phone can lure me away from this one
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All I know is only that phone can lure me away from this one
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Lure isn't the word for it. That phone could coerce me into jumping into a pitch of fire. Lol.
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i too would prefer the enhanced dual core over the quadcore at 1.5 each core. Who needs quadcore on their phones when dualcore hasnt even been fully optimized yet, ya they say it helps with battery drain but they said that about dual core as well on the g2x which has extremely terrible battery life.
I still love my g2x for its incredible display and nvidia gpu but this epic touch 4g just pwned it lol
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If this phone is less than a 4.5 inch screen, I can't do it. Can't go back. I need NOTE size if anything.
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What are the advantages of a15 over a9? smaller and higher clock speed? Anything else?
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I don't know the intricacies of the architecture, but it's made with (I believe) a 32nm die instead of the 45nm Cortex-A9s, which usually means less power consumption and more performance. There are also new instructions supported by the CPU which allow it to perform tasks more efficiently. Other than that, I don't quite know. But it's smaller and faster. The A15s are going to blow all A9-based chips out of the water. I'm interested to see how the new A15s stand up against the S4 Krait processors from Qualcomm. That thing got 218mflops in Linpack... nearly shat my pants.
If this is real and Sammy puts it in the SGS3 you can bet your sweet ass it's going to be the fastest phone ever made.
I think there are gonna be two variants one a15 dula core 2ghz and other quadcore a9.
What would ppl choose battery or performance?
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Hmmm I don't think this is slated for the GSIII, but rather Samsung's 2013 device lineup. The GSIII is expected to run a quad A9 SoC.
Hey, how about this for something. Maybe there is going to be multiple variations of the SGSIII that will each satisfy the rumors? Just a thought lol
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Hmmm I don't think this is slated for the GSIII, but rather Samsung's 2013 device lineup. The GSIII is expected to run a quad A9 SoC.
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That makes no sense. Why follow up a quad core with a dual core.
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That makes no sense. Why follow up a quad core with a dual core.
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Because more cores doesn't always mean better.
Or how about forget all the rumors and we just wait till Samsung tells the world about it. It might not even really be ready yet.
The world would be a boring place without rumors. If you don't like them don't comment on them.
A quad-core Cortex-A9 GS3 would make me a sad panda. There are going to be a lot of kickass A15 and Krait-based phones out this year. If Sammy goes with A9 it's going to lose its competitive edge.
All I know is that I don't want it to be called the within on sprint
The "epic win" or "samsung emperor" would be much better names
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All I know is that I don't want it to be called the within on sprint
The "epic win" or "samsung emperor" would be much better names
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Samsung emperor sounds like a penguin lol
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Because more cores doesn't always mean better.
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Yes, well a majority of consumers arent technically inclined and automatically think more cores equals better performance.
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Hot off the rumorpress: http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/04/12/r...4-6-inch-super-amoled-hd-plus-release-in-may/
319 ppi. That puts ppi right there with the iPhone 4S, but on a much larger AMOLED display. If the form factor is sexy, and the rest of the specs line up right, I'm going to have a hard time not throwing my wallet at this device.
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Yea I might have to buy me two.
watch crapple pull some kind of a lawsuit out of their ass if this is true...
Definitely pumped for this but Idk if I'll get it right away the quad core just fills like a scam to me lol
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I am a huge fan of the galaxy series. Once I got the Mesmerize and now the Epic 4G Touch I have to say I will be a galaxy customer for a long while. All I can say is hopefully it drops soon enough for the price to drop a little but they time my upgrade comes. Unemployment sucks. But based on Sammy's past history I have to believe the GS III will be nothing less then Epic on many levels.
With all of these rumored specs that seem to blow any current phone away... I am so happy my upgrade is in the next few months. Although the price will most likely reflect the quality, I'm prepared to sell my arm and leg for this phone
If and when I dump the S2...The only reasons will be for LTE and Quad Core which is what Ive heard the S3 is supposed to have...I like the Note but the screen is a little too big...Had it in my hand in Best Buy Mobile...But I think Id stick to the 4.7 hopefully what the S3 will have... and stay with Sprint for the Unlimited...
What? only 4.6 inches? I rather get the evo 4g LTE.
Ok, a bit confused. I was pretty sure I read an article that said we won't see quad core phones til 2013? Due to LTE compatibility.
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Ok, a bit confused. I was pretty sure I read an article that said we won't see quad core phones til 2013? Due to LTE compatibility.
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http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-to-provide-exynos-4412-to-other-oems-70880/
While the exact Exynos 4412 specs are yet to be announced, it is estimated that the new SoC from Samsung will be built using the 32nm manufacturing process and will feature a quad-core processor based on the ARM Cortex A9 (the same architecture behind the Tegra 3 CPU, but Nvidia uses a 40nm process) clocked somewhere between 1.5 – 1.8 GHz. As for the GPU, rumors claim that the Exynos 4412 SoC will feature an ARM Mali-T604. In addition, the 4412 will also feature integrated LTE and WCDMA radios. Please keep in mind that these are only rumored specs.
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Bolded the part that is relevant to your question. Nothing is concrete yet, but the Exynos 4412 rumored to be going into the SGSIII may be the first quad core LTE compatible SoC.
Edit - Another article on the subject: http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2012/03/129_107204.html
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watch crapple pull some kind of a lawsuit out of their ass if this is true...
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I'd love to see them do that. Samsung makes their own screens. There's nothing saying that they can't make a screen close to or better than iPhone's "retina display".
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I'd love to see them do that. Samsung makes their own screens. There's nothing saying that they can't make a screen close to or better than iPhone's "retina display".
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not only do samsung make their own screen, they also make it for apple. apple is samsung's second largest customer after HP
The only thing I wish my E4GT had differently is a higher resolution screen. It's going to be awhile before any device makes me want to upgrade. Though, this is pretty lust worthy.
That sold my mother in law. She was going to get the SGSII from NTT DoCoMo until her daughter beat her to it. I told her to hold off a few more months to wait for this phone - glad I did. Now hopefully we'll see this to Sprint and my MVNO sometime next year, right around the time that we're eligible for upgrades! (I can wait a year, 4G isn't bad in Chi-town!)
I read something about Samsung doing a worldwide announcement for all markets, does that mean it'll be available for US carriers (Sprint specifically) when everyone else in the world gets it? I'd hate for the rest of the world to get it in say June and the US gets it a few months later like with the SG2.
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I read something about Samsung doing a worldwide announcement for all markets, does that mean it'll be available for US carriers (Sprint specifically) when everyone else in the world gets it? I'd hate for the rest of the world to get it in say June and the US gets it a few months later like with the SG2.
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I wouldn't hold your breath. Unless both Samsung and the carriers learned from last year and they're getting the carrier differentiation done now with less hang ups. I'm not in a massive hurry though. I still dig my E4GT, and the later the GSIII is released the further along Sprint's LTE rollout will be.
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At least the density of the new display will compete with the EVO LTE screen.
With the way they are marketing it, I hope that they release the US versions around the same time. I have a feeling samsung is learning, and is pushing for more unified releases. They know that the sgs2 dominated the smart phone market, so I would assume they also know the sgs3 will attract just as many, if not more customers. Especially with this much hype, and there own event to announce it. I would expect they would be smart enough to get it on as many carriers as they can, as soon as possible.
I always felt it was stupid that theres different release dates for phones based on where you live. And the fact that we were always last made it worst. If they start releasing their phones at once worldwide i think that'll be a good move and every other manufacturer will probably follow in the same direction. At least I hope. There's nothing worse then wanting a phone that's available in another country and not urs..
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So from my understanding,
The international one is Tegra 3 while the ATT model is a S4?
Is there a huge difference in performance between the two?
i mean.. one is quad,,and the other is only a dual..
tian105 said:
So from my understanding,
The international one is Tegra 3 while the ATT model is a S4?
Is there a huge difference in performance between the two?
i mean.. one is quad,,and the other is only a dual..
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There's fairly lengthy disucssion on this over on the One XL forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1609878
Yes but the S4 has proven that quad isn't necessarily better than dual! The performance is almost the same, in some cases the S4 is even better (not THAT better tho) but in others (like multitasking and gaming) the Tegra 3 really shines
*performance-wise*
if they both had 32 gb, then i'd have to decide. as is, i don't want a 16 limit.
Considering that ICS is GPU accelerated when It comes to UI, wouldnt the T3 version feel smoother than S4? (gestures and UI interactions, not loading speeds) Since its GPU is better capapble than the Adreno 225. I mean thats why the GNEX doesnt feel as smooth as a SGS2 for example, the dual core TI OMAP has some seriously powerful CPU but subpar GPU to push that 720p screen...
Just a thought
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AT&T: 28 nm Cortex-A15 Base
Int'l: 40 nm Cortex-A9 Base
It's like comparing a 1st gen quadcore to a current gen dualcore in the pc world (maybe not that drastic, but you get the point)
The Adreno 225 is only marginally slower in gaming, not enough to make a fuss over. According to my contact at AT&T it is perfectly smooth.
http://briefmobile.com/htc-one-x-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidia-tegra-3-comparison
Thank everyone for posting your opinions!
After reading the link BarryH_GEG Provided,
I have made the decision to passup the X and to get the XL instead. For the following reasons:
1. better battery life.
2. LTE
3. More snappiness due to OS utilization?
4. Quadcore is useless to me in real life. Why? because the first quadcore desktop CPU launched almost 7 years ago. Even until now, software developers are just slowly learning to utilize more than two cores.
Ready to buy, tomorrow!
And thank everyone again
designgears said:
AT&T: 28 nm Cortex-A15 Base
Int'l: 40 nm Cortex-A9 Base
It's like comparing a 1st gen quadcore to a current gen dualcore in the pc world (maybe not that drastic, but you get the point)
The Adreno 225 is only marginally slower in gaming, not enough to make a fuss over. According to my contact at AT&T it is perfectly smooth.
http://briefmobile.com/htc-one-x-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidia-tegra-3-comparison
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on a side note, will you be developing for the XL ?
designgears said:
AT&T: 28 nm Cortex-A15 Base
Int'l: 40 nm Cortex-A9 Base
It's like comparing a 1st gen quadcore to a current gen dualcore in the pc world (maybe not that drastic, but you get the point)
The Adreno 225 is only marginally slower in gaming, not enough to make a fuss over. According to my contact at AT&T it is perfectly smooth.
http://briefmobile.com/htc-one-x-snapdragon-s4-krait-vs-nvidia-tegra-3-comparison
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The snapdragon s4 is based on krait which is totally different from A15. Performance is only slightly better than A9 in terms of integer but vastly better for floating point and memory bandwidth. The Adreno 225 is much slower than the geforce in tegra3. But it wont be felt in general UI and games since they hardly tax the 220 before it and even the several times slower 205 runs most games like deadspace without a problem.
tian105 said:
because the first quadcore desktop CPU launched almost 7 years ago. Even until now, software developers are just slowly learning to utilize more than two cores.
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i actually bought the Intel Core 2 Quad Extreme quite a few years ago and the only thing i have had to upgrade for gaming is the video card and RAM. i imagine i'm going to get a few more years of high quality gaming out of this PC before i need to upgrade. i don't have DDR3 RAM or PCI Express 3, but i doubt it matters much. i just hope the CPU doesn't die before then! i'm just shocked at how long i've been able to stay on the quad, and now they have 8 cores?
tian105 said:
on a side note, will you be developing for the XL ?
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lol..we will wish him good luck
tian105 said:
on a side note, will you be developing for the XL ?
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I sure plan on it, hope to release a rom at some point for it.
Trying to dump the X for the XL(AT&T) right now.
You get one thing with Teg3 you don't with the S4. A really cool game. It's built in to the system and really visualizes the Teg3 chip in action. And being the only Teg3 phone on the market, it's a One X exclusive.
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That's right! It's your battery indicator! Imagine how impressed your friends will be when they actually get to watch your battery life count down in real time. Thier phones can't do anything as trick.
BarryH_GEG said:
You get one thing with Teg3 you don't with the S4. A really cool game. It's built in to the system and really visualizes the Teg3 chip in action. And being the only Teg3 phone on the market, it's a One X exclusive.
That's right! It's your battery indicator! Imagine how impressed your friends will be when they actually get to watch your battery life count down in real time. Thier phones can't do anything as trick.
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LOL, nice one
brent8577 said:
i actually bought the Intel Core 2 Quad Extreme quite a few years ago and the only thing i have had to upgrade for gaming is the video card and RAM. i imagine i'm going to get a few more years of high quality gaming out of this PC before i need to upgrade. i don't have DDR3 RAM or PCI Express 3, but i doubt it matters much. i just hope the CPU doesn't die before then! i'm just shocked at how long i've been able to stay on the quad, and now they have 8 cores?
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my point exactly!
cheers!
designgears said:
LOL, nice one
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I'm sounding *****y but I'm really happy with the phone. After some charging cycles I'm getting decent battery life based on the way I use it. I'm going on a trip Friday which will be the real test as I'm much heavier on my phone when I'm on the road. I'd still recommend it and I like the larger amount of storage. So don't let my sarcasm put people off, it's still a great device.
When you buy the top notch phone that retails more than $1000 you expect to get the best performance. Not only Samsung didn't equipt the Note 10+ with the new SD885+, the new Global version of the phone comes with the Exynos 9825 that lacks in performance against the old SD855. That's not acceptable. What do you think?
The Exynos wins in single core performance and app launch time, they have comparable battery life and the SD wins in multi threaded workloads and GPU. But if you look at the 9820 vs sd855 anandtech review, the gpu is actually almost on par with the SD version and while the 9825 is very slightly overclocked it shouldnt lose this hard. Looks like an optimization issue to me rather than a raw power one. At the end of the day they perform similar in everyday use, but since more people use sd devices than exynos once they will be more optimized for games and such. Dont worry about it too much imo, yes it sucks that we got a worse version globally but its not a huge deal and definitely not a dealbreaker.
I would of thought more people used the Exynos version considering it's pretty much the entire world, while SD is mainly just north america or are samsung's sales outside America really that bad?
Pretty much to be expected as always.
I guess that optimization will improve the 9825 but not sure if it will make it to the SD855 performance. AFAIK Samsung can't use the Exynos chip in the USA because of patent protections so they using SD's. At least they should sell the Exynos version cheaper...
I Think that it's about time I stop buying an exynos note. It performs way worse than the snapdragon variant 3rd year in a row.
For me it is a deal breaker.
A phone asking 1000+ $ and flagged as flagship must have the latest soc, fact.
But....they wouldn't dare putting 855+ in comparison with the exynos9825 that maybe can compete with the almost 2 years old 845 soc. Really a shame.
No upgrading for me, sticking to my note9 and waiting for a proper flagship with flagship specs, means 855+ soc.
I already bought the Note 10+ Exynos before I knew it was inferior to the SD version. But if the next samsung flagship will not fix this, it will be the last Exynos device I'm buying maybe the last Samsung device altogether.
liamR said:
I already bought the Note 10+ Exynos before I knew it was inferior to the SD version. But if the next samsung flagship will not fix this, it will be the last Exynos device I'm buying maybe the last Samsung device altogether.
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Well, aside from performance, if you are into rooting your device, the SD is pretty much not a choice unless you get the Hong Kong version. AFAIK, the only fully rootable version is the Exynos. I personally, would never consider the locked down version of the SD just based on principle. If I own the device and pay over $1000, I want to be the judge of what I can and can't do to it. It's like buying a Ferrari and being told the insurance company has disabled parts of it and it won't drive more than 60 mph. Weather you actually root or not becomes irrelevant. It's the principle.
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I have no issues with the Exynos, it runs smoothly, performance is perfectly acceptable, yes the 855 might be slightly better in certain areas, but I think its marginal.....
Eudeferrer said:
Well, aside from performance, if you are into rooting your device, the SD is pretty much not a choice unless you get the Hong Kong version. AFAIK, the only fully rootable version is the Exynos. I personally, would never consider the locked down version of the SD just based on principle. If I own the device and pay over $1000, I want to be the judge of what I can and can't do to it. It's like buying a Ferrari and being told the insurance company has disabled parts of it and it won't drive more than 60 mph. Weather you actually root or not becomes irrelevant. It's the principle.
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In my last 3 phones from Samsung I didn't feel the need to root so that not a deal breaker for me. If you pay for Ferrari you don't want to end up with Maserati
Have you seen the battery on exynos version. https://youtu.be/RTezwqJgo5M
7 h and 47 min on gaming and rec 4k 60fp. Beat all competitors flagship without p30 pro Exynos is awesome even if is surpass in performance. Lets be real. Exynos will manage anything we drop at him no matter what.Battery is important. And so far by youre complains on xda compare to exynos sd is a failure.
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Have you seen the battery on exynos version. https://youtu.be/RTezwqJgo5M
7 h and 47 min on gaming and rec 4k 60fp. Beat all competitors flagship without p30 pro Exynos is awesome even if is surpass in performance. Lets be real. Exynos will manage anything we drop at him no matter what.Battery is important. And so far by youre complains on xda compare to exynos sd is a failure.
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I saw this test, but I didn't see the SD version tested. Also I have no problem to sacrifice some battery time for more performance (within reason).
I backup my opinion with my eperience. 1 day with note 10+ exynos version. Litle bit waze, 1h talk, 7 h youtube, 1/2 4g 1/2 wifi, some 3d attemp, heavy usage. Phenomenal battery. Exynos from s10+ and note 10+ is a win.
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