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So I finally called ATT and got the subsidy unlock code for my Tilt2.
I popped in a Tmobile sim and it instantly works fine in every function except the connections speed. I am getting Edge only.
My question is, Can this be improved by the addition of a more recent radio? Or am I stuck with Edge due to the hardware in the ATT version of the phone?
I haven't played with this phone for almost a year except for a week in December or so when I reflashed to FireStorm 7.4 while my Captivate had crapped out. So I am kinda out of the loop on this. I was told the Captivate can't run Tmobile 3G no matter what radio I run. But I was hoping since the Tilt2 has been out so long someone might have figure out something. I see the FM radio was worked out after we thought it was impossible.
My rom and radio for the Tilt2 are in my signature. Any hope of updating it for 3G speeds?
It's by hardware. I have both phones as well due to that scenario.
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FireRaider said:
So I finally called ATT and got the subsidy unlock code for my Tilt2.
I popped in a Tmobile sim and it instantly works fine in every function except the connections speed. I am getting Edge only.
My question is, Can this be improved by the addition of a more recent radio? Or am I stuck with Edge due to the hardware in the ATT version of the phone?
I haven't played with this phone for almost a year except for a week in December or so when I reflashed to FireStorm 7.4 while my Captivate had crapped out. So I am kinda out of the loop on this. I was told the Captivate can't run Tmobile 3G no matter what radio I run. But I was hoping since the Tilt2 has been out so long someone might have figure out something. I see the FM radio was worked out after we thought it was impossible.
My rom and radio for the Tilt2 are in my signature. Any hope of updating it for 3G speeds?
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Tmobile offers 3G on 1700 MGHZ and ATT is on 850 or 1900. The ATT phone does not have 1700, so there is no hope of your device working on TMO 3G in the Americas.
Edge is all you will get, as TMO still has the quad band GSM capability.
Thanks guys. I guess the extra sim with data is not all that handy then.
It still seems odd that even by flashing a new radio it wont work. I have digital radio equipment (scanners, Ham Radio) that has huge bandwidth and I would think that modern cell phones would have the same capability. But obviously it doesnt work.
Do the international versiopns of the phone have the extended frequency range capability or is it still the same problem?
The manufacturers are too cheap to enable all the frequency bands.
Actually I suspect there is a setting hidden somewhere in the radio's NVRAM that can change the available frequencies, but nobody has found it. The chipset is the same across most of these models, and obviously the radio's antennas work across all the frequencies (since they already do for 2G). And as one obvious example, the Samsung Vibrant (which was T-Mobile only) can have its radio software-unlocked to work with other 3G frequencies.
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The manufacturers are too cheap to enable all the frequency bands.
Actually I suspect there is a setting hidden somewhere in the radio's NVRAM that can change the available frequencies, but nobody has found it. The chipset is the same across most of these models, and obviously the radio's antennas work across all the frequencies (since they already do for 2G). And as one obvious example, the Samsung Vibrant (which was T-Mobile only) can have its radio software-unlocked to work with other 3G frequencies.
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Interesting. My other phone is a Captivate, which is pretty much the same as the Vibrant. I have been looking into a dual Sim adapter to run both my ATT and TMO sims in the same phone. I was told the Captivate cannot run on the TMO 3G frequencies. I will have to look into this further. That is very good information. Thanks.
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Interesting. My other phone is a Captivate, which is pretty much the same as the Vibrant. I have been looking into a dual Sim adapter to run both my ATT and TMO sims in the same phone. I was told the Captivate cannot run on the TMO 3G frequencies. I will have to look into this further. That is very good information. Thanks.
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Galaxy-S Unlock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761045
Debug menu http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...850mhz-and-1900mhz-bands-too.-Works-on-ATT-3g.
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The manufacturers are too cheap to enable all the frequency bands.
Actually I suspect there is a setting hidden somewhere in the radio's NVRAM that can change the available frequencies, but nobody has found it. The chipset is the same across most of these models, and obviously the radio's antennas work across all the frequencies (since they already do for 2G). And as one obvious example, the Samsung Vibrant (which was T-Mobile only) can have its radio software-unlocked to work with other 3G frequencies.
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I know where that setting is but the limitation seems to be in hardware.
either that, or there is a lot more hacking required than just changing the NV setting.
Hey, care to share? Can this setting be toggled using e.g. AT+HTC_DM? Is it a no-op or is there any visible effect from changing it?
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Okay so more rather to cater to my burning curiosity of how the T-Mobile Varient would do with HSPA+ 42 and the 1700/2100 I went down this morning grabbed a white version and came home and did some test. And here's what I've found.
#1) The T-Mobile Variant of the Note 2 is Made in CHINA! While the N7100 is made in Korea
#2) The T-Mobile Variant had worse download speeds where I live and testing the HSPA+ speeds in my house resulted in the unlocked N7100 beating it on the 1900mhz band. (Keep in mind I only get HSPA+ On t-Mobile near my house all other are's that were tested I have edge on the N7100 they are still refarming.
#3) So I took it upon myself to see is the T-Mobile branded version actually faster? I drove around for about 10-20 miles stopping in different area's and testing, The highest I've Gotten with it was 15mbps down. However I was not able to compare it to the N7100 in the same exact location because that area is not yet refarmed. However Comparing it side by side the N7100 at home the N7100 had the edge in download speeds which was funny to me.
Besides that fact, the N7100 is fully unlocked and no bs from T-mobile on it and the instant I used the T-Mobile version I wanted the N7100 back. So Moral of the story for me was that is it worth getting the T-Mobile version? If your on the Re farmed network I'd say no get the N7100 instead no bloatware faster updates, Speeds won't vary much, and You can tether devices without rooting!
Good to hear others thinking along these same lines. Guess it really depends on whether tour city is being refarmed.
I live in Memphis, and I've heard rumors that we're getting / already have the 1900 band. Guess I might need to find a good way to test before hand.
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Hi guys!
Okay so more rather to cater to my burning curiosity of how the T-Mobile Varient would do with HSPA+ 42 and the 1700/2100 I went down this morning grabbed a white version and came home and did some test. And here's what I've found.
#1) The T-Mobile Variant of the Note 2 is Made in CHINA! While the N7100 is made in Korea
#2) The T-Mobile Variant had worse download speeds where I live and testing the HSPA+ speeds in my house resulted in the unlocked N7100 beating it on the 1900mhz band. (Keep in mind I only get HSPA+ On t-Mobile near my house all other are's that were tested I have edge on the N7100 they are still refarming.
#3) So I took it upon myself to see is the T-Mobile branded version actually faster? I drove around for about 10-20 miles stopping in different area's and testing, The highest I've Gotten with it was 15mbps down. However I was not able to compare it to the N7100 in the same exact location because that area is not yet refarmed. However Comparing it side by side the N7100 at home the N7100 had the edge in download speeds which was funny to me.
Besides that fact, the N7100 is fully unlocked and no bs from T-mobile on it and the instant I used the T-Mobile version I wanted the N7100 back. So Moral of the story for me was that is it worth getting the T-Mobile version? If your on the Re farmed network I'd say no get the N7100 instead no bloatware faster updates, Speeds won't vary much, and You can tether devices without rooting!
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So would you be able to tell me if the T-mo Note and the N7100 are exact the same dimensions/shape. I want to buy a case for the T-mo version but I think all the ones on ebay are for the N7100. Maybe you can switch out battery covers to see if they fit. Thanks!
I too was sitting on the fence on whether to pick the the N7100 or T-mobile's handset. I eventually chose the latter for the following reasons. It may not necessarily apply to everyone. I'm not an engineer so I don't know much about technical details but I am very logical in understanding how things work:
1) Tmo has done a fairly good job on refarming the 1900 band for hspa+ and true enough you will get speeds >10mbps. I previously tested this service on an international SGS2 and international GN1. And that was using a prepaid sim. So clearly international versions of samsung will have hspa+ service IF there is coverage. However as to date, we still have to see consistent and widespread coverage of hspa+ on the 1900 band. Who's to say that by year's end the refarming would have been completed to a satisfactory level as promised by T-mobile? What if coverage would still be practically the same in YOUR area? What if completion simply means additional cities/towns but your area basically has already been refarmed to completion. I feel that will be the case with MY area. It's still really "wait and see" for the refarming project. While with the t-mo variant you get consistent hspa+ ALREADY, NOW and greater coverage simply because they have been designed to work with the existing hspa+ AWS bands of Tmo. 1900 hspa+ is just additional for the Tmo variant.
In my case, I use my home wifi. So that situation negates the 4G coverage comparison between the 2 .
I'm curious as to what your home speed differences were? Was it that significant to outweigh the benefit of more consistent hspa+ coverage outside your home? I understand your mobile tests showed Tmo's variant to be the winner by "default". Meaning N7100 didn't have a chance to even compete. That alone is enough for me to chose Tmo's.
2) N7100 has a 21mbps hspa+ radio. Tmo's variant has a 42mbps radio. Although I am not seeing speeds proportionate to the advertised 42mbps radio in my area. I believe some folks around the US have demonstrated 20-30mbps on Tmo's network. Just scourge the net for those blogs and anecdotes. Obviously the 42mbps radio is required for those speeds. I guess it will all depend on the location and if 42mbps hspa+ is enforced on the surrounding towers.
3) re: bloatware - They don't bother me much. However for the tinkerers out there, this may be a deal breaker. But I am certain there is always a way around this for the advanced users.
4) N7100 doesn't have an LTE radio. Tmo's variant potential has this feature. That adds a little future proofing value to it. Check engadget's latest review of Tmo's variant. To quote:
"Also, according to the T889's FCC application, the device includes support for LTE bands 4 (AWS) and 17, though this particular set of radios is currently locked on T-Mobile. We're hoping the AWS LTE band will be enabled for us as soon as the network is ready to push ahead with its next-gen technology, but we haven't heard any official word from Magenta about this. Regardless of what happens, we wouldn't put it past hackers Android programming aficionados to come up with a way of taking advantage of this."
Regardless, by the time LTE would be fully and satisfactorily enforced, we all would have probably moved on to another device.
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So would you be able to tell me if the T-mo Note and the N7100 are exact the same dimensions/shape. I want to buy a case for the T-mo version but I think all the ones on ebay are for the N7100. Maybe you can switch out battery covers to see if they fit. Thanks!
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They are the same damn phone except for the International version is made in Korean (says on label) and the U.S. variants are made in China (again, on the label) but the specs are the same as far as the meat and bones and the accessories will all work together just like the Galaxy S 3.... I have both a T-mobile (which I picked up today) Titanium color and An International Note in white and my T-mobile is performing a tad quicker as far as benchmarks but that really does not mean much... As far as where it's made.... I, personally, don't care cause they are both the same phone and qc for Samsung (in general) is the same across the board. I almost want to keep the T-mobile AND the International but I don't know if my budget will like that although I did get the International N7100 for $589.99 plus $12.00 back in ebay bucks so I can't complain on the price! The T-mobile was $688.00 OTD when I purchased it today but the HUGE difference is that the T-mobile will work on HSPA+ networks with both T-mobile and AT&T (if unlocked) and the International is edge on T-mobile(nothin you can do)... So I have more options as far as Pre-paid services and I can obtain insurance or a warranty without a problem in the US with the T-mobile version also... Another big plus! The International version is nice because it has hardly any bloat and it gets updates quickly! Who knows when we will see multitasking on the T-mobile version although they aren't as bad as some networks for updates... My opinions on the two versions....
EDIT: What he said above.... LOL He beat me to it! **I also notice on the T-mobile version that when you go to the dialer and press *#0*# there are more test options....??**
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Quick comment - checked back of my phone and it says made in Korea . My model jumber is SGH-T889v. Thanks!
Aren't the white ones made in Korea?
Kawaisa - I have the titanium grey - the SGH-T889v I have is the Canadian variant.
That's one way to look at it I guess. If you get 1900 Mhz at your house and don't want to use your wifi, ok. I would take the Tmo version with wifi calling app and HSPA+42 radio with next years LTE bands built in and just run a debloated stock rom when they start popping up here (or pull your own bloat out using TB). I got one today at Tmo, rooted it, uninstalled a bunch of garbage, and am really happy with the device. The only thing I "want" is the TV animation when shutting the screen off lol. Oh, and I don't like the boot audio either of the SGH-T889, but that will change in a week or so when ROM's start getting released To each there own, although I'd bet the N7100 will get superior dev support...
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I would like to know too. Does anyone have the White US version and where it was made?
I have the white where i can check that
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I have the white where i can check that
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Behind the phone, under the battery in the back. Thanks.
Tmo white note 2 is Made in china
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I'm going to receive my T-Mobile Note2 in a few days and I chose it pretty much for the same reasons as what had already been stated.
I am not based in the US..but I'm based in the Philippines and will just unlock my Note2. I got it through Wirefly so the price difference really did sway me to get it over the international variant. I also like that it is LTE capable so at least it's future proof somehow.
I am very capable of tinkering with phones so I can easily get rid of bloat and such.
My main concern is the amount of dev support this would be getting. I would imagine that due to the similar hardware, porting ROMs meant for international version would be relatively easy.
I'm wondering though if I could just flash an international based ROM straight away since I don't intend to use this with TMO anyway so I can live without sms/call/data of TMO as long as it can still somehow work with my international SIM and the phone still fully function.. I don't want to wait for updates via carrier.
I've read several of you are talking about uninstalling bloatware, wouldn't this hinder in the OTA update process (we should get one soon for the multi-window feature) whenever it gets pushed out. I thought it was best to disable or freeze the apps through TB rather than uninstalling it, could someone clarify that for me?
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GN2 TMo on ATT with 3G speeds?
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They are the same damn phone except for the International version is made in Korean (says on label) and the U.S. variants are made in China (again, on the label) but the specs are the same as far as the meat and bones and the accessories will all work together just like the Galaxy S 3.... I have both a T-mobile (which I picked up today) Titanium color and An International Note in white and my T-mobile is performing a tad quicker as far as benchmarks but that really does not mean much... As far as where it's made.... I, personally, don't care cause they are both the same phone and qc for Samsung (in general) is the same across the board. I almost want to keep the T-mobile AND the International but I don't know if my budget will like that although I did get the International N7100 for $589.99 plus $12.00 back in ebay bucks so I can't complain on the price! The T-mobile was $688.00 OTD when I purchased it today but the HUGE difference is that the T-mobile will work on HSPA+ networks with both T-mobile and AT&T (if unlocked) and the International is edge on T-mobile(nothin you can do)... So I have more options as far as Pre-paid services and I can obtain insurance or a warranty without a problem in the US with the T-mobile version also... Another big plus! The International version is nice because it has hardly any bloat and it gets updates quickly! Who knows when we will see multitasking on the T-mobile version although they aren't as bad as some networks for updates... My opinions on the two versions....
EDIT: What he said above.... LOL He beat me to it! **I also notice on the T-mobile version that when you go to the dialer and press *#0*# there are more test options....??**
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Besides unlocking a TMo note 2, did you have to do anything else to make it work on 3G on ATT? Did you actually test that it would work on ATT 3G or this is just a guess based on specs?
dont be mad now that the cat is out of the bag that tmobile galaxy note 2 has LTE
RE: Bloatware
its called root and titanium backup if you want the Tmo version and no bloatware. root is achievable on the Tmo Note 2, along w/CWM. i am sticking w/the stock rom since i plan to use S-Pen quite a bit. we'll see as the weeks go by and roms start to appear.
i went the tmo vs international due to that 1900 isn't in my area yet and won't be until end of year and our version as prev noted does have the LTE hardware and cheaper than importing an unlocked phone. has anyone noticed VERY slow A-GPS lockons when in doors? my gnex was freakin instant indoors.
Can anyone else post what color they have and where it was Made?
I was reading that the international ones have Made in Korea, Made in China, and Made by Samsung.
Thanks.
I've read YES, I've read NO...?
Is there anyway to enable and use LTE on the T999 on T-Mobile?
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Try going to Canada that's the only place that uses the same LTE frequency that T-Mobile will be using. Might work like the Nexus 4
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The T-Mobile network does not have LTE rolled out yet, but the hardware does support LTE.
I'm sure the way to enable LTE will include flashing a new radio, though I'm not aware of any that will enable LTE without bricking the phone or killing data communication on the SGH-T999 specifically.
Edit: So far it would seem that the LTE supposedly in this phone doesn't run on the same frequency spectrum that T-Mobile plans to use for LTE.
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The T-Mobile network does not have LTE rolled out yet, but the hardware does support LTE.
I'm sure the way to enable LTE will include flashing a new radio, though I'm not aware of any that will enable LTE without bricking the phone or killing data communication on the SGH-T999 specifically.
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Says who? I really think people should just drop this subject. And every thread started needs to be closed. There are plenty of threads about this
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plat_ said:
The T-Mobile network does not have LTE rolled out yet, but the hardware does support LTE.
I'm sure the way to enable LTE will include flashing a new radio, though I'm not aware of any that will enable LTE without bricking the phone or killing data communication on the SGH-T999 specifically.
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Can you support this info?
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Samsung says the tmobile s3 is capable of the lte... tmobile says its not... ill trust the people who actually made the phone
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Can you support this info?
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@woostar88
I've spent probably two hours in the last few days purely searching and reading whatever specs I can grab, including for FCC ID A3LSGHT999. Every time I'm sure, something knocks me back down to unsure status. It's especially confusing when Samsung, the maker of the phone and the Snapdragon platform it runs on, says it does support LTE - then T-Mobile comes in and says nope (and that it's based on the Snapdragon MSM8260 instead? wtf?).
While they are contradicting their hardware vendor, they have support reps saying both yes and no. No wonder nobody knows anything,
but I'm determined now.
Unfortunately for me I'm not as privy as I should be to the massive amount of terminology and mobile spectrum standards that have been bestowed upon us, but a little more research should bring me up to speed.
My answer until I have a better one is that yes it very much is an MSM8960, and yes, it does support LTE.
No, the LTE this hardware supposedly supports is not using the same frequency spectrum that T-Mobile in the US eventually will (like snoopy1e11 said in this thread).
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Samsung says the tmobile s3 is capable of the lte... tmobile says its not... ill trust the people who actually made the phone
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Of course T-Mobile says it doesn't support LTE. They'll do what they did with the Vibrant. Sell a boat load of them and then release a slightly updated version with full LTE radio. I trust Samsung before TMO anyday.
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Of course T-Mobile says it doesn't support LTE. They'll do what they did with the Vibrant. Sell a boat load of them and then release a slightly updated version with full LTE radio. I trust Samsung before TMO anyday.
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For all of you saying it's going to support lte, and that our chip is the same as att, answer me this:
Why can we not unlock our device, place a att SIM card into it, register it on att network, and access lte on att network? If all our devices have that same chip that supports lte as you all are claiming, why can't we do this?
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For all of you saying it's going to support lte, and that our chip is the same as att, answer me this:
Why can we not unlock our device, place a att SIM card into it, register it on att network, and access lte on att network? If all our devices have that same chip that supports lte as you all are claiming, why can't we do this?
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Your first three points have no influence from the chip design; The (in)ability to unlock a device is controlled by software, the (in)ability to use a SIM card from another provider (which is generally the exact same hardware) is controlled by software, and the (in)ability to register it to another provider's network is controlled by software, as long as the hardware radio chipset can speak the network's frequency and mobile protocol.
I don't know off-hand why it won't connect to AT&T's LTE. I'm also not an electronics expert but I can imagine that these chipsets can be controlled with firmware to restrict the frequencies the radio may generate or receive, effectively locking it to a provided number of frequencies assigned to the mobile operator.
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Says who? I really think people should just drop this subject. And every thread started needs to be closed. There are plenty of threads about this
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100% agreed.
The best arguments for and against have already been made. All i see this doing is mirroring all other threads on the same topic. Tempers may flare, infractions might be made, all because no one wants to be wrong and cant wait a year or two when the subject actually becomes relavent.
Search and read. Hint: general section.
It can be disabled on both the hw and sw side. In the end it doesn't matter because the T999 was never certified/cleared by the FCC for LTE. So they'd either have to go back through the process or be fined for breaking the law.
I'm convinced it won't happen, but to each his own opinion.
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The only reason that the tmobile t999 has any LTE files in it is because all the carriers have the same base rom then stack their crap on top of it! I know how to read code and if you break down most of the apps in the phone they will have provisions for all carriers, not just tmobile. Tmobile doesnt even have LTE towers yet so the answer is still no
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The only reason that the tmobile t999 has any LTE files in it is because all the carriers have the same base rom then stack their crap on top of it! I know how to read code and if you break down most of the apps in the phone they will have provisions for all carriers, not just tmobile. Tmobile doesnt even have LTE towers yet so the answer is still no
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In a few select places, T-Mo has LTE. In fact, they'll be sharing towers with Verizon.
But, the true answer to whether or not the T999 can get LTE or not is, gram crackers and apple juice. Yep.
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In a few select places, T-Mo has LTE. In fact, they'll be sharing towers with Verizon.
But, the true answer to whether or not the T999 can get LTE or not is, gram crackers and apple juice. Yep.
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You're way off... Verizon and T-Mobile are two completely different technologies when it comes to their towers.. unless there is no difference in GSM lte versus cdma lte,
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You're way off... Verizon and T-Mobile are two completely different technologies when it comes to their towers.. unless there is no difference in GSM lte versus cdma lte,
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Yes, I know, as everyone else, that one is GSM and another is CDMA.
But, fact is that T-Mobile are Verizon are swapping frequencies with one another. What I'm confused about is if this means they're literally using the same towers or if each carrier has so many licenses of certain frequencies and now they're giving up some of those licenses.
I'm confused.
But, what I do know is that:
1. The two are swapping frequencies with one another.
2.Verizon does use GSM LTE.
3. Gram crackers and apple juice determine whether or not the T999 can get LTE.
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Yes, I know, as everyone else, that one is GSM and another is CDMA.
But, fact is that T-Mobile are Verizon are swapping frequencies with one another. What I'm confused about is if this means they're literally using the same towers or if each carrier has so many licenses of certain frequencies and now they're giving up some of those licenses.
I'm confused.
But, what I do know is that:
1. The two are swapping frequencies with one another.
2.Verizon does use GSM LTE.
3. Gram crackers and apple juice determine whether or not the T999 can get LTE.
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Its simply a spectrum swap. They're not using each others towers. At least not for anything other than roaming services. Tmobile and Verizon will both be able to use this to provide better and more widely available service and coverage to more people. But they will be using tbe newly aquired spectrum on their own towers and equipment. Not each others.
Its one if the conditions Verizon agreed to for FCC approval. Tmobile swaps a small bit of their licensed spectum along with "cash and other concessions" in exchange.
Good for Verizon, good for Tmobile, good for consumers is the reason the FCC made it a condition. Thats how I understand it anyway.
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Its simply a spectrum swap. They're not using each others towers. At least not for anything other than roaming services. Tmobile and Verizon will both be able to use this to provide better and more widely available service and coverage to more people. But they will be using tbe newly aquired spectrum on their own towers and equipment. Not each others.
Its one if the conditions Verizon agreed to for FCC approval. Tmobile swaps a small bit of their licensed spectum along with "cash and other concessions" in exchange.
Good for Verizon, good for Tmobile, good for consumers is the reason the FCC made it a condition. Thats how I understand it anyway.
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So, then it's a matter of each carrier having so many licenses to certain spectrums... Like I have 600,000 licenses of something and you have 700,000 of another and we give each other 300,000? Is that kind of what's going on here?
Sort of, but Im not sure it works entirely like that.
I do know that Tmobile received enough to support approximately 60 million new customers in 15 of the top 25 markets, while Verizon received enough to support 22 million, plus cash and such.
I don't really know how the licensing works, but I don't think it goes by the number of users or anything like that, but by frequency ranges. Id imagine theres more to it than just you give me x and I give you y though.
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Such hostility in here over a easy to answer question.
In short:
No there is not a way to enable it, as it has not been implemented by t mo just yet.
Yes it will require a radio update.
Yes the s3 (even the t mo version) is LTE capable.
Was that it or did I miss another question?
I have a question, will the videotron Samsung galaxy s3 ever get LTE?
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SamuelLimkiamkong said:
I have a question, will the videotron Samsung galaxy s3 ever get LTE?
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Im with Videotron and they even not have a setup a working LTE towers in Quebec, we're far to see this happening. But i've read somewhere that their Radio Towers were fully compatible to an upgrade to LTE. But still, they've pushed 4.1 android only last december... They are slow on updates. Btw HSPA + is anought for anybody, I can reach 10 -12 Mbts ( faster than my computer internet speed) and I live far from Montreal.
Considering that the T999 for T-Mobile doesn't support LTE, I would imagine that the Canadian version doesn't have the hardware either, carrier roll out aside.
Vidéotron have always use older technology, maybe LTE will come for us in 5-10 years or before if they receive another grant from Québec gouvernement.
Also don't forget Vidéotron is just a Rogers reseller so they probably don't have the last word on that.
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mana4.com said:
Also don't forget Vidéotron is just a Rogers reseller so they probably don't have the last word on that.
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Aside from a few leftover accounts from that era, VTL has stopped being a Rogers reseller a long time ago...
They have their own network for the big city but for the aera less important are still covered by the rogers network but with no extra fee
Their own network now covers a large part of Quebec's population. They should be free of Rogers completely soon enough.
As for LTE, that's their big weak point, as they never talked about the possibility of implementing it...
I was thinking as soon as we go out of Quebec province that we switch automatically to the rogers network. I think my account still on rogers because when I send email to mynumber @ pcs.rogers.com I still receive back the rogers welcome message on my phone (even if this function have never work).
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I was thinking as soon as we go out of Quebec province that we switch automatically to the rogers network. I think my account still on rogers because when I send email to mynumber @ pcs.rogers.com I still receive back the rogers welcome message on my phone (even if this function have never work).
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Within the province of Quebec Videotron is pretty self reliant they have their own network that covers most of the populated areas. I say most because they are still expanding their network and optimizing trouble spots. When you are within the province of Quebec and have no Videotron coverage is available the phone will look for a Rogers network to connect to, and this is also the case for the rest of Canada.
Also keep in mind that Videotron first rolled out their network in September 2010 and only covered Montreal and Quebec at launch
They currently use a AWS 1700/2100 HSDPA/HSUPA which can support a maximum theoretical speed of 42 MBPS.
Obviously they must be working on LTE as all the other players have moved forward with it. The advantage that they have is that they are still a relatively small player and their network was designed for a higher total amount of subscribers than is using the network.
There you go Videotron will get LTE
http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/05/29/r...o-build-out-lte-network-in-quebec-and-ottawa/
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There you go Videotron will get LTE
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That mean galaxy S3, S4 going to have upgrade!?!? software?
S4, im not sure. The S3 can only yse LTE if its got the correct hw.
The orig T999 cannot, so a new version, the T999L was just released. No idea what to expect for the T999V, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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That mean galaxy S3, S4 going to have upgrade!?!? software?
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Don't think so not even S4 the link I posted just says Rogers and Videotron signed an agreement to build an LTE in Quebec and Ottawa I know the Roger's tower's are already there but the financial term agreement might "take time" anyways I'm just saying my opinion only
Is Videotron part of telecom? Seems to me that a lot of tmobile devices have the same hardware as Videotron. Also they seem to run the same spectrun as tmobile here. Just wondering. If we tmobile got lte in a few areas maybe when they fully get it to work here videotron will jump on it. Just a thought though
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@gypsy214, not a bad assumption to make, but I knew Vidéotron belonged to Québécor.
They only happen to both be using AWS spectrum, as are Wind and Mobilicity. (That spectrum was auctioned off much later in Canada than it was in the US.) You piqued my curiosity into getting actual numbers, here's what I found:
Vidéotron is a subsidiary of Québécor Média, majority of which is owned by the Québecor corporation (75.4%) and the Caisse de dépôt et placement du Québec (24.6%)
Reference: http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle...3-003-quebecor-direction-robert-depatie.shtml (in French)
E980 from eBay; unlocked with number code (no data service on T-Mobile at this point-only phone); rooted with XDA instructions-verified with Joey Krim’s Root Checker basic; installed SuperSU; installed ASTRO file manager pro (had it from prior phone) - could not access Build Prop file so installed Joey Krim’s Build Prop Editor; as per XDA instructions changed ro.radio.networkmode=disable to ro.radio.networkmode=enable (and SAVED!!!). Opened “Settings”; “Networks”; “Tethering and Networks”; “Mobile Networks” (which now shows “Network Mode” which I entered and selected “GSM/WCMDMA/LTE auto”; then went down to “Network Operators” and opened and checked “automatic”. After booting there was no change in data access and I figured out problem was with APN (“Access Point Names”) settings - went to uTube for "MMS/APN settings for HTC Inspire T-MOBILE " and using pause button got the APN data needed. Went back to “Mobile Networks” page and clicked on “Access Point Names” which opens a blank page. Clicked on the lower right “Menu” button which opens small window at bottom with two options-pick the “New APN” which opens the full page for entry of the uTube data (I did not find on this E980 a place to enter “MMS Protocol:WAP 2.0"). Rebooted and data service appeared. The data service was “E” (Edge apparently) but I live on Mexican border and no LTE yet nor has T-Mobile apparently switched their “4G” to 1900 band. I will investigate with T-Mobile support how, if possible in this market, to move up the data food chain. My prior phones were Palm Treos then HTC G2 and RAZORs for landline replacement with PhoneLynx devices.
LG says without hardware flash no possibility (if at all) of 4g operation and not sure will work now with LTE from T-Mobile (not in my area yet). T-Mobile support says G Pro is not in their system yet. Amazing to me that all phone manufacturers do not have frequency agile products - my 12 year old RTI TV remote handles multiple frequencies and IR. LG support would not comment on Key Lime Pie . . .
I feel bad for users of other carriers who can't get the G Pro. Its stupid how LG makes it exclusive on AT&T than does little to nothing to market it. LG is just hurting the sales potential of the device by not making it more available in the US market.
I agree. Although it has been confirmed that this device will work and get T-Mobile 4G and LTE. I dont understand why T-Mobile won't market this phone. Its clearly a Note 2 beater in every aspect.
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.... I dont understand why T-Mobile won't market this phone. Its clearly a Note 2 beater in every aspect.
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I think AT&T has put a stranglehold on LG just like VZW does with some of their partner manufactures. You can bet there were some back room deals going on prior to release.
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I think AT&T has put a stranglehold on LG just like VZW does with some of their partner manufactures. You can bet there were some back room deals going on prior to release.
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Maybe, but LG has many phones for T-Mobile as well, i think more even. But the exclusives have been AT&T only, like the 3D LG Thrill, the "first" HD screen and LTE Nitro HD...............yeah you might be right.....
where did you buy your unlock code? which selleR?
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I feel bad for users of other carriers who can't get the G Pro. Its stupid how LG makes it exclusive on AT&T than does little to nothing to market it. LG is just hurting the sales potential of the device by not making it more available in the US market.
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LG reminds me of Commodore back in the 1980s: GREAT products, but not a clue how to market them. The OG Pro has a big H/W advantage over the Galaxy Note II and a larger screen (with less bloatware) than either the HTC One or S4; LG should be running comparison ads non-stop. What do we get instead? Almost nothing.
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edgarzin said:
where did you buy your unlock code? which selleR?
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Bought on Ebay from salvatoregm - UNLOCKED. Unlocked many phones in past with various unlocker sites without problems.
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Okay I understand that the bootloader is currently locke but assuming it gets unlocked would it be possible to flash a custom modem to create support for tmobile 4g in un-refarmed areas? something like they did for the note one?
How does The LG Pro G work on T-Mobile? I live in a re-farmed area and am thinking of switching to the T-Mobile $30 prepaid plan.I have the chance to get a Pro G for $49,my plan was to get it,unlock it and use it on T-Mobile.
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How does The LG Pro G work on T-Mobile? I live in a re-farmed area and am thinking of switching to the T-Mobile $30 prepaid plan.I have the chance to get a Pro G for $49,my plan was to get it,unlock it and use it on T-Mobile.
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When i was in refarmed area i was consistently getting 3~6mbps down and about 2mbps up and in an area with lte around 25mbps
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Okay I understand that the bootloader is currently locke but assuming it gets unlocked would it be possible to flash a custom modem to create support for tmobile 4g in un-refarmed areas? something like they did for the note one?
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Probably not. What helped the Note in this regard was it's similarity to the Galaxy S2 hardware, and then T-Mobile release the Note on their network. T-Mobile doesn't carry any LG devices with even remotely similar hardware.
Have people been able to unlock phones that were previously locked? I'm assuming so, since I have seen unlocked ATT Phones. I want to buy one on eBay and then get an unlock code, but wanted to make sure it was possible first. I'm switching from the Note II. I love Samsung, but hate the Camera...
4G and LTE Works on T-Mobile
I was digging around in the not so secret.....secret menu and experimenting with options and found that you can simply activate the 4G and LTE on the Optimus G Pro. I will post a few screenshots of the home screen and of some speed tests for your amazement.......
You can access the LG menu by entering 3845#*980#
I'm not responsible if you blow your phone up....please be careful.
I'm using the ATT Lg Optimus G Pro here in Canada with my Rogers carrier and get full LTE speeds just by adding Rogers LTE APN settings. this would be the same for Bell or Telus. I have to say trading my s4 for this device was a smart move! Ya sure no dev support because of locked bootloader, I'm sure eventually that will change
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i got tmobile in nyc with LTE.. im thinking about getting the LG Optimus G Pro.. will the phone work in getting LTE or 4G on tmobile?
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I was digging around in the not so secret.....secret menu and experimenting with options and found that you can simply activate the 4G and LTE on the Optimus G Pro. I will post a few screenshots of the home screen and of some speed tests for your amazement.......
You can access the LG menu by entering 3845#*980#
I'm not responsible if you blow your phone up....please be careful.
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I got into the hidden menu but I cant find anyway to activate lte .... Any help would be greatly appreciated.
7xnari said:
i got tmobile in nyc with LTE.. im thinking about getting the LG Optimus G Pro.. will the phone work in getting LTE or 4G on tmobile?
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According to a few people I've seen on here with mobile, you should get full LTE speeds on T-Mobile.
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What I don't see is the support for t-mobile AWS bands for 4g....just LTE and Edge....
No need to activate LTE,should work out of the box as long as the APN settings are correct.
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