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Can we use this to pay for goods in the UK?
if so, what software do we need on the phone. There's a few shops in my town that have a contactless payment machine so I'm wanting to try it out.
any ideas?
Also, can these be used to scan and copy a proximity card for use at work to let me in doors?
I am one of the worst for forgetting my card each day so having my ID on my phone would be useful!
mmace said:
Also, can these be used to scan and copy a proximity card for use at work to let me in doors?
I am one of the worst for forgetting my card each day so having my ID on my phone would be useful!
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this would be fabulous if we could get it to work!
winwiz said:
this would be fabulous if we could get it to work!
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I think Android's implementation of NFC is still missing tag emulation mode, unfortunately.
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I think Android's implementation of NFC is still missing tag emulation mode, unfortunately.
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what if I had access to the security system and any codes etc, would that help?
mmace said:
what if I had access to the security system and any codes etc, would that help?
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I don't think so. Basically Android has the functionality to read/write NFC tags and communicate with NFC devices that expect an active NFC device, but can't communicate with NFC/RFID devices that expect an NFC/RFID tag.
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I don't think so. Basically Android has the functionality to read/write NFC tags and communicate with NFC devices that expect an active NFC device, but can't communicate with NFC/RFID devices that expect an NFC/RFID tag.
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ah, cheers
any way we can make payments then like they can in the US?
Ive got it working in the UK. I flashed the app from here and factory reset, then opened Google wallet with a non-Apps Google account, added a new prepaid card and its all working, paid for a coffee at starbucks this morning in London. Only problem I have now is how to top up my prepaid card. Only US cards are supported.
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My dream is to use it as my Oyster card here in London. Do you think it's gonna happen anytime soon?
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juniorbattle said:
My dream is to use it as my Oyster card here in London. Do you think it's gonna happen anytime soon?
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That would be ballistic, bumbastic, amazing
juniorbattle said:
My dream is to use it as my Oyster card here in London. Do you think it's gonna happen anytime soon?
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I doubt it, because
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Android has the functionality to read/write NFC tags and communicate with NFC devices that expect an active NFC device, but can't communicate with NFC/RFID devices that expect an NFC/RFID tag.
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The simplest way would be to super-glue your Oyster card to the back of the phone. But that would impair other NFC uses.
With Visa and Mastercard support we are meant to get Google Wallet in early 2012. Source
I paid with my Visa PayWave card today at Greggs.....the lady there had absolutely no clue what just happened, she kept telling me to insert my card even though I told her that I've got a contactless card and the payment has already been authorized(according to what was displayed on the terminal). She had no idea if that's normal/allowed so she had to ask the store manager. What an embarrassment. I can only imagine what would have happened if I tried to pay with my phone - panic in the shop? It would take me 5 minutes to explain what I did. It's nice to see contactless payments being accepted in more and more places, but in most cases the staff has no idea what is going on. I even had it in McDonald's once.
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I paid with my Visa PayWave card today at Greggs.....the lady there had absolutely no clue what just happened, she kept telling me to insert my card even though I told her that I've got a contactless card and the payment has already been authorized(according to what was displayed on the terminal). She had no idea if that's normal/allowed so she had to ask the store manager. What an embarrassment. I can only imagine what would have happened if I tried to pay with my phone - panic in the shop? It would take me 5 minutes to explain what I did. It's nice to see contactless payments being accepted in more and more places, but in most cases the staff has no idea what is going on. I even had it in McDonald's once.
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Maybe I'm strange but I'm quite looking forward to that
gambiting said:
I paid with my Visa PayWave card today at Greggs.....the lady there had absolutely no clue what just happened, she kept telling me to insert my card even though I told her that I've got a contactless card and the payment has already been authorized(according to what was displayed on the terminal). She had no idea if that's normal/allowed so she had to ask the store manager. What an embarrassment. I can only imagine what would have happened if I tried to pay with my phone - panic in the shop? It would take me 5 minutes to explain what I did. It's nice to see contactless payments being accepted in more and more places, but in most cases the staff has no idea what is going on. I even had it in McDonald's once.
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They would probably think you hacked the payment system or something if you used your phone.
omg call the police. hax0r!
Anyone link it with their Barclay card, or is that even possible?
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Anyone link it with their Barclay card, or is that even possible?
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I've been trying.
The registration page in My Barclaycard asks for phone number and SIM serial number. It expects a SIM serial number that is 19 digits. The number written on my T-Mobile SIM is 12 digits. I contacted T-Mobile and they gave me my full serial number - 20 digits. So now it is too long. The best they could suggest was dropping the last zero. It didn't work. So I still can't link my Barclaycard to a contactless account.
Even if I managed to do any of this, I still wouldn't have the necessary app that comes pre-installed on the Samsung Tocco Quick Tap from Orange. So I wouldn't be able to do anything with the account. Maybe it is possible to port the app from that phone onto the Nexus.
Are all Orange SIM numbers 19 digits? I guess the Barclaycard/Orange Quick Tap thing really does only work with Orange.
Ok, so received an email from the android bug tracker saying that it's going to get resolved in the next software update \o/
It is going to take off here in the UK - but I think I saw it on BBC Click that it will reach widespread use by 2014
madhat73 said:
It is going to take off here in the UK - but I think I saw it on BBC Click that it will reach widespread use by 2014
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I believe the government want it at the very least commonplace throughout London ready for the 2012 Olympics. But I don't have a link for where I read that.
I've noticed that a lot of people are looking for things to do with their NFC enabled phone and there isn't much information out there, so I thought I would make a list of things that you can scan. Keep in mind some will require a specific app, a pin, or come up as either "unsupported" or will be encrypted.
Credit Cards
American Express Blue Cards
Barclaycard
Chase Credit Cards
MasterCard PayPass
Visa payWave Cards
ID
Bournemouth University Student ID
New York State Enhanced Drivers Licence
Stenden University Student ID
Twente University Student ID
UK Press ID Card (Police Issued ID Cards for UK Media)
Uppsala University Access Card
US Military/ DoD CAC Identification Cards
Passports
Austrian Passports
Brazilian Passports (Issued After January 2012)
Bulgarian Passports
Croatian Passports
Dutch Passports
German Passports
Greek Passports
Italian Passports
Polish Passports
Romanian Passports
Swedish Passports
UK Passports
US Passports (Pin Required)
Public Transit
Bip! Chilean Public Transport Card
Boston MBTA Charliecard
Bournemouth University Bus Card
Breeze card
Brescia Omnibus Card
Chennai (India) MRTS Railway Smart Card
Clipper Card
Croatian ZET Tram Card
Danish Public Transport "Rejsekort" Card
Delhi Metro (India) Travel Token/Card
Dutch Transit Card "Ov-Chipkaart"
Finnish HSL Bus/ Train card
German Monthly Bus Tickets
Go-To Card
Hong Kong "Octopus"Value Cards
IAmsterdam City Card
IETT - Istanbul Public Transportation Limited Pass Cards
Israeli Transportation Card - Rav Kav
London Underground Oyster Cards
Melbourne Australia's Public Transport Myki Card
MetroQ Card
Mobilis Transport Card
Moscow Metro Ticket
ORCA Card
Pamplona Bicycle Cards
San Diego Compass Cards
Slovenian Koratur Transit Cards
SUBE Argentinian Public Transportation Card
Swedish Skånetrafikens "jojo" Card
Torino Bicycle Cards
Velopass City Bikes Card
Verona City Bike Sharing Card
Zonguldak-Kozlu Public Transportation Card
Rewards/Members Cards
Circle K Polar Pop Rewards Card
Forwards Rewards - Gas Reward Card
Mcfit Membercard
Other:
Edmonton Public Library Books
Italian Health Insurance Card
Les Champs Libres: Library Books in Rennes, France
PayPal Security Key
PolyLAN Lan Party Card
Technika 3 Card
Verona Library Card
Young Ticket Plus
If you know of anything else please post it here and I will add it to the list.
Thank you sysadmn for categorizing the information.
London underground Oyster Cards are recognized.
Hong Kong "Octopus" NFC stored value cards can be scanned
Some security NFC cards can also be scanned
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Hi everybody,
I want to have some of your opinions about this Subject.
If i have a rooted phone with a custom rom, Can i use the NFC as if i had the stock Rom (Operator: Orange in my case).
Because, with this stock rom when the NFC as enabled i did see an icon in my notifications bar. Now when it's enable with my new custom rom, it doesn't appears.
Thank you for all your answers
Sorry for my english, i did my best.
Tim
Samsung Galaxy S 3
16Go, Marble white
Rom: OMEGA 5.1
timogaby27 said:
Hi everybody,
I want to have some of your opinions about this Subject.
If i have a rooted phone with a custom rom, Can i use the NFC as if i had the stock Rom (Operator: Orange in my case).
Because, with this stock rom when the NFC as enabled i did see an icon in my notifications bar. Now when it's enable with my new custom rom, it doesn't appears.
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This is the wrong place, completely for this. Try the SGS3 forums. And it would seem to me, that the best way to check would be to try to scan something. I'd assume something with your custom ROM removes the icon. Just give it a test.
Also, back to the thread, I think you can scan some hotel cards. Not super useful, but it's interesting and fun to see what happens/whats on em
Hey guys,
How exactly does NFC work with Visa Paypass?
Anyone got a link somewhere i can read up on it?
The Dutch transit card "OV-Chipkaart" is scannable, it only gives a bleep but still it has some effect.
How do you find nfc scanable stuff?
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How do you find nfc scanable stuff?
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I'm guessing touching your phone to everything you suspect of being scannable.
You can read Bulgarian passports, it returns some data, that can not be seen unless you got a pin or key to restore everything on place.
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London underground Oyster Cards are recognized.
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I noticed that the other day when i rested my phone on top of my oyster card holder, my S3 made a noise everytime i lay it down on top.. My question is, what can you do with the oyster card tho?
tried it just now with my HOX and im not too sure what kind of app to use to read it so i got a bunch of them.
in theory, could i read the data off my oyster, and then write that data to a new tag, and then stick that tag on say an iphone and use it as my oyster card?
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tried it just now with my HOX and im not too sure what kind of app to use to read it so i got a bunch of them.
in theory, could i read the data off my oyster, and then write that data to a new tag, and then stick that tag on say an iphone and use it as my oyster card?
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That would be pretty cool, being able to have something like that.
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tried it just now with my HOX and im not too sure what kind of app to use to read it so i got a bunch of them.
in theory, could i read the data off my oyster, and then write that data to a new tag, and then stick that tag on say an iphone and use it as my oyster card?
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I asked about that with the Hong Kong Octopus NFC payment cards.
Its a negative as the card should have encryption and stuff to prevent this from happening.....
uk passport have the chip to scan pretty cool its been there ages just didnt know what it was
Hi, used some NFC enabled hotel key cards, library cards and lift passes. Also had some luck with different company badges.....and received a lot of feedback regarding nfc enabled public transportation tickets
Used all of them to trigger activities and settings with https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.widgapp.NFC_ReTAG_FREE
Reads italian passport too, but without returning back nothing, only makes the sound ndicating that the phone found something. It should be useful for police to know if passports are true or no
the Mcfit Membercard and the Austrian passport
i read out my data of the passport with that app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.mroland.android.apps.nfctaginfo&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImF0Lm1yb2xhbmQuYW5kcm9pZC5hcHBzLm5mY3RhZ2luZm8iXQ..
then menue and setup access keys. insert your passportnumber, birthdaydate and expire date of the passport and if you scan the passport now the data can be read.
OP missed the obvious, custom nfc cards.
It can scan my barclaycard.
Also, has anybody tried scanning a phone with google wallet? Wonder if an nfc app picks it up.
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Zanith said:
OP missed the obvious, custom nfc cards.
It can scan my barclaycard.
Also, has anybody tried scanning a phone with google wallet? Wonder if an nfc app picks it up.
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I think if you buy a product called a custom NFC card/ tag you would already know that it can be scanned and how to use it. This is a list of everyday items you can scan.
so i searched around for this and no one seems to have a definite answer...or at least, no one that has possibly used these possibilities has spoken out..
here's my question..mastercard paypass mobile (and now called masterpass)... is it just an app that i'm missing that you can register on an NFC phone and then you're able to use your credit card linked to your profile?
Or will masterpass be that app when it gets release and will only support the banks that are signed on with them? (in Canada, BMO has already signed on)
basically, as a replacement option to google wallet for those (like us in Canada) who can't use wallet..or at least, functionally use it with one of our credit cards
any info is appreciated...
*sorry if this doesn't go in nfc hacking...but it's nfc related since i'm just looking for nfc payment solutions...i hate wallets
Just like Google wallet and Isis by all most of the major US cellular vendors the app is only half of the story. The other half is something that is embedded in the actual phone it self. What is missing is something called the "secure element" so that no one else with out proper access can use it and it cannot be mimicked/copied. The secure element can be anything from an actual chip embedded in the device to a SIM card that has the chip built in. If you have a credit card with the smart chip or that has wave pass or some other NFC option and you have scanned it with your device, heck even the popular skylanders toys there is an area that is secure and no matter what you do you cannot view the data or alter the data, that's an example of a secure element. That's what is missing from your device
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Just like Google wallet and Isis by all most of the major US cellular vendors the app is only half of the story. The other half is something that is embedded in the actual phone it self. What is missing is something called the "secure element" so that no one else with out proper access can use it and it cannot be mimicked/copied. The secure element can be anything from an actual chip embedded in the device to a SIM card that has the chip built in. If you have a credit card with the smart chip or that has wave pass or some other NFC option and you have scanned it with your device, heck even the popular skylanders toys there is an area that is secure and no matter what you do you cannot view the data or alter the data, that's an example of a secure element. That's what is missing from your device
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I wasn't asking why i can't use google wallet. I could actually use google wallet before they took away their virtual card in October. I can't add any credit card because my billing address is in Canada (not completely true...like most others, i can add my card but the transaction will not go through when i try to use google wallet with that card).
the gist of my question was more along the lines of, is masterpass like google wallet? does it already exist with paypass mobile or is paypass mobile just an internet profile that you can use to pay online and masterpass will absorb it but also be an nfc payment method?
at MWC recently, mastercard mentioned masterpass as an NFC payment solution...so i would imagine that you can use credit cards from banks that are signed on with it as nfc payment...but it is not 100% clear
well, masterpass launched today, and from what i read on mobilesyrup, it looks like nfc payments will not be possible
i hate that we are seriously lacking in an option similar to google wallet
if anyone signed up for masterpass and says it does work through nfc, please let us know...as of now, from any article i've read, it doesn't look like it works...
Hi guys,
I'm from israel (important detail for the problem) and i have the G2 (Sprint variant).
We're having here a local transportation company, that manufactured cards that you can load money on them and go on buses and trains.
The card is using the NFC technology and when i try to use it with my phone with the dedicated app it doesn't read it, but on my old nexus 5 it worked. I was in amsterdam before 3 months and i saved the local transportation card and apparently, it uses the nfc technology and my G2 is able to read it.
Does it makes sense? do i need to switch my card to a new one? How do i fix this? because it works on buses but not with my nfc chip on the phone...
Thanks.
Do you have NFC enabled?? I don't think it's automatically "on" on the LG G2.
Are you running a custom or AOSP ROM? Most of them do not have working NFC for Sprint phones.
Can anyone try to pay with NFC, like android pay or some bank app??
I cannot, and SAT told me that there is no issue founded...
I've payed already a few times with my own bank app, but it seems that the NFC antenna is a bit lower than normal... In most phones it would be around the camera, in this phone I've place like the are of the fingerprint scanner/middle of the phone in the terminals with small connection areas.
My model is the European one.
What country are you in?
Im using Android Pay without issues.
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I'm in the US and use AP frequently. The NFC seems to be near the fingerprint scanner, so don't tap the top of the device, other then that works fine for me.
I have the same issue. I can't pay with nfc.
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Can anyone try to pay with NFC, like android pay or some bank app??
I cannot, and SAT told me that there is no issue founded...
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Have you found the issue? I have the same problem. NFC works, but paying with the phone does not work.
I have now found the solution. It was the NFC SIM Card from Vodafone. This has completely disrupted the internal NFC. Have now ordered a new SIM without NFC and used.
The G-Pay payment works fine now.
Can you confirm for the vodafone nfc sim. ? I have also vodafone but with my previous Galaxy S9+ I didnt have any problem with the payments using my bank app! Very frustrated and dissapointing from LG
guys, i´ve talked today with vodafone Germany and they said they just have nfc sim Cards.
the dude told me to turn off nfc on my phone and try it again. Maybe that will work. try it again tomorrow but somehow i don´t believe him...
Hi. Did anyone pay with Mastercard credit card via NFC?My bank say LG G7 don't have certification from MasterCard company and I can't check this information because MasterCard heritage me to bank.And I found last document with certified phones from 2017
Sorry for my English
Use.googel.oay with two mastercard and with my bank app. No problem att all.
Make sure u pass safty-net
Xposed and Somtime root brakes it. Even crossflash
No problem paying with Google Pay and Maestro card.
Yannis72 said:
Can you confirm for the vodafone nfc sim. ? I have also vodafone but with my previous Galaxy S9+ I didnt have any problem with the payments using my bank app! Very frustrated and dissapointing from LG
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Not an lg problem! NFC works perfectly.
Anybody with LM-G710EM? Bank say, support for LM-G710TM,for my LM-G710EM don't
I have LM-G710EM and no problem paying with NFC.
Thanks,this confirms that no problem with phone,but problem is thinking of developer which add support for phone dedicated for US and don't for global version
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I have LM-G710EM and no problem paying with NFC.
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And anybody with LM-G710EM and MasterCard?