Which root method should I use - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys I have another question and I am thinking I may be able to acheieve re-root by using unrevoked, but I am unsure.
My system:
Version -2.15
PRI -2.15
Software version 5053-651-1
System - 2.3.3
Kernel version - 2.6.35.10-g13578ee
The above is the current information on my phone which has an update available but I haven't performed that task yet. My question I know there is a new root for those which have upgraded to the new gingerbread, but if am correct I don't thing my replace phone has been upgraded yet with the above information listed. Since I knew I was getting a replacement phone i assumed the software info would show it as ver 2.16 which requires the new rooting method? Am I correct in this assumpstion? Also since my system hasn't been updated yet can I still use UNrevoked3 to re-root? I know it seems lenghtly but I was attempting to be clear as possible to get the best answer before I proceeded with either the rooting method or the update.

Only way is for you to root is to use revolutionary.io only way for gingerbread

Should I update my phone before I root then?

Hey,
Yeah you will need to use revolutionary, but dont worry just google it you will get youtube videos walking you how to do it.
No do not update your phone, updates can always patch things and make rooting impossible (Sadface), just jump right in follow the instructions and you will be rooted and flashing roms in no time! just one piece of advice when you are rooted NEVER EVER accept an OTA update otherwise you might just kill your root, or worse D:!
Goodluck my friend! if you need anything just pm me!
Stevo

RamesisX said:
Should I update my phone before I root then?
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You could root then just flash the latest stock rooted rom. Its up to you really I would just root now instead of updating

Yes I too learned that you must root first, a few months ago i accepted the Gingerbread update - mistake. Oh well, now im rooted using revolutionary.io
It was so easy, literally a few settings in the phone, install the driver, start rev.io, plug in your phone, type in your license key, done. reboot and ROM that *****
Happy ROMming

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I had my phone rooted and decided to unroot to get the OTA update which I did, but I tried rooting the phone again and I can't no longer root the phone.
Has any one experience this before?
Can I use unrevoked?
i dont know about unrevoked. if you do the factory reset and reroot using toasts method, there is a stock rom you can flash that has the OTA update biult in that will allow you to keep the root. all of the info is on the first page where toast describes the rooting process. hope this helps.
I guess there is no way to revoked so I can root my phone again. I like to learn if this is possible I guess, I will miss the tether app that I enjoy so much.
Please any one
I am still trying to root my evo after installing the OTA and have not been able to root it again.
Can anyone help if possible?
I will appreciate any suggestions at this point
Thanks in advance
how to unroot
i tried rooting my phone last night and it messed up, i think.. i know the root didnt work. how can i get my phone back to stock? I am new with androids and not sure what im really doin
You can use the unrevoked method if you are just mainly using it for the tether app.
http://unrevoked.com/m/
then click the image to install it.
un root
i just would like to get my phone back to stock, i did the unrevoked root, then tried to do a ROM, and the rom part did take all the way. I still have the ROM Manager app still on my phone.. should i delete that
Just use this and it will bring u back to stock - remember google search is your friend
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=693980

Long Time Reader, First Time Rooter.... :/

Ok, so I really like my HTC Evo, but I want to expand a little outside the box. I used to load custom ROMs on my PPC6700 and that was very straightforward and easy. It seems like this whole Android Rooting thing is not quite so.
What I want to do is load a stock ROM with everything working, but the option to remove some of the Bloatware from Sprint. My biggest problem right now is that I don't know how to backup all my current apps without having root access. In order to get root access, from what I understand, I have to completely erase my phone. Kind of a viscous cycle. Can anyone help me out with this?
Also, should I do the full root (including NAND) or just the base root? Finally, do I have to do the radio update after rooting, or do I not have to worry about it since I already did the first OTA?
Here is the info I have gathered so far:
Root Part 1 (Toastcfh)
Root Part 2 (Toastcfh)
Install New ROM (SuperSonic Version or other??)
Radio Update (Toastcfh - Optional??)
Thanks,
Bryce
You could use unrevoked to root which doesnt wipe your phone and then you would be able to run titanium backup to back your apps then do full root which will wipe your phone install the ROM and radio you want then use titanium backup to restore your apps.
Will I still have to update the radio since I already installed the OTA update? I guess I am confused on the radio thing, is it a driver update or a firmware update?
I beleive once you root using toasts method which uses the PC35IMG.zip file that it downgrades the radio to prior the OTA update. Installing the radio is easy though. Once rooted just install your ROM following the creators directions then flash the radio using the current radio zip and it flashes just like a ROM just has to reboot a couple times. Just what ever you do DO NOT pull the battery during a radio update even if its taking awhile let it finish or you can brick your phone. I used the radio zip found in Flipz ROM post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700448
Do you have to flash the radio every time that a new ROM is loaded or just once after doing the root?
LWhitson2 said:
Do you have to flash the radio every time that a new ROM is loaded or just once after doing the root?
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Nope, you sure don't.

[Q] How, exactly, does an OTA update break your ability to root, forever?

By the question you can tell that i'm rather inexperienced at this, but a buddy of mine(who has a Droid on VZW) and i were debating whether or not doing an OTA update after you root would cause you to loose your ability to root forever.
I guess it's different on both devices, but he contends that he could unroot his droid, which is running a custom 2.2 ROM, install an OTA update, decide he doesn't like it, then just go back to a 2.1 RUU from VZW or Motorola, and then re-root.
Everything i have read here about the EVO indicates that if i am already rooted, and i accept an OTA update, then i will never be able to root again. Does never, really mean never? Or is it just mean that i won't be able to root using the current methods to root the phone?
What if i had never rooted and then accepted the OTA 2.2 from sprint that may be coming this week, would i then be able to root?
What exactly does the update do to remove the ability to get /root access to the phone? Something with the bootloader, HBOOT, or what?
Thanks for the information. Hopefully, this will settle this question for my friend and I.
Chris
OTA updates typically break any existing root methods, and disable any current root access.
Some OTA's also update the phone in a manner which prevents older official roms (that have working roots) from being reinstalled.
At that point, you have an updated rom with known roots removed, that can't be rolled back, so the only option is to wait until another root exploit is found and released. Which may or may not happen depending on the device and whoever is working on it.
Hope that helps.
You can take and accept as many updates as you want....you just have to modify that update by replacing the new hboot with the engineering one.....that way you can freely flash zip files
HTC is tricksy and they dont let you roll back after the OTA. Motorolla may not have this so your friend may in fact be able to roll back to 2.1 (however he may be misinformed as well).
To root basically they find a bug to exploit that allows us to gain access as a root user. when the OTA updates come out 99% of the time they will fix this bug. HTCat least blocks roll backs so now you are on a new version of the software that you can not go backwards and the bug to root is no longer there.
While there are normally other bugs that can be exploited to get root it is possible that there isnt one or that if there is no one can find it. if they cant find it then it could remove your ability to root permanently.
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You can take and accept as many updates as you want....you just have to modify that update by replacing the new hboot with the engineering one.....that way you can freely flash zip files
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while true accepting an OTA will not give you the chance to do this for most.
ok, that explains things a little better. thanks.
I'm new to all of this as well. My EVO has already been updated OTA by a Sprint employee while I was purchasing the phone. From what I've read it looks like I'm SOL until someone cracks 2.2. One quick question though... How long did it take people to be able to root the first software on the EVO's?

[Q] Evo with Hboot 2.10 and S/W 3.70. Want to temp root to remove apps,any options?

Hello all!
First I am not new to flashing and/or hacking phones I have done many back in my WM and other phone days,just somewhat new to Android
I have looked around and I think I already know whats up but I can't say I have seen this question asked yet...I did search
Here we go,
I have an Evo with Hboot 2.10 Stock sprint flash (as in from the sprint store) and I updated to S/W 3.70 with out first checking to see what it had...(yea stupid of me )
What I want to do is Temp root into the phone,use Ti backup or whatever to make a back up of the stock apps and then remove them. I only want to remove the sprint tv,nascar,blockbuster and other apps that I don't use that don't tie into the rest of the OS.
I tried with Z4root but seeing as I have S/W 3.70 not much happens
I don't really care to flash to new rom as I am happy with the stock flash just want to get rid of apps I will never use.
So far my only option is to wait from what I have looked up,I just wanted to know if I could execute my plan with out a full system flash.
Thank you for your time and if anyone needs more info I will be glad to give it!
Yes, it seems 3.70 has patched the exploit that z4root was using to get temp root. Until the devs find a way to get a new exploit you'll have to wait.
With the rate these Devs work, I'd give it a week and you should be able to root your phone
Thanks!
I figured that was what I would have to do,but it never hurts to ask
A quick update.
It seems as if Z4root still does work even with the 3.70 OTA update...
I was searching around on Google and found people with this exact set up that had been able to temp root.
Not sure on the why yet but I had to do a reset to factory default first in order to get z4root to give me temp root(Maybe something from the update was hanging around on the phone blocking z4??). I then fired up TI backup and started to remove the Sprint stock apps I don't use and and a few other save to remove ones!
So if anyone is looking to stay on the stock sprint rom and has S/W 3.70 this might work for you as well!
And now I am fully rooted and running the sprintlovers rom. I was able to follow the guides here and get my phone flashed up.
If anyone has the same set up and needs help let me know!
How did you get permanent root on 3.70? I was going to try the'savior' adb method, but I'm afraid of bricking. I did just download unrevoked's new beta root though. I might try that when I get home
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how did you get root? I'm thinking of the savior method too (same evo specs). I'm guessing you used that since you're on sprintlovers?

[Q] if i install new update on my vzw xplay will i lose root

hi i just rooted and installed a custom theme from uot theme kitchen and noticed there was an update (current installed version is 2.3.2) and was wondering if i accepted it, would i lose root, and more importantly would i mess up my phone because i have a custom theme?
Last time I checked the 2.3.3 Update is not available for VZW, unless you are talking about a different update. Please keep me posted as well.
Delons said:
Last time I checked the 2.3.3 Update is not available for VZW, unless you are talking about a different update. Please keep me posted as well.
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well acording to my phone there is an update available (could be a new kernel) but shortly after recieving the notification for the 10th time i bought titanium backup pro (best 7 bucks ever spent on my phone by the way) i put "updateinstaller" in a bloat freezer and it hasn't bugged me since
so any idea if it'll mess up my phone?
If you update to 2.3.3 and your are rooted it will brick your phone for sure happened to me a couple days ago. If you want the update you would need to unroot and then get update and re root but I'm not worried about updating I'm a fan of my phone now so I won't be doing it any time soon maybe once ICS is out and there's a root method out.
unrooting or relocking
pouxonu said:
If you update to 2.3.3 and your are rooted it will brick your phone for sure happened to me a couple days ago. If you want the update you would need to unroot and then get update and re root but I'm not worried about updating I'm a fan of my phone now so I won't be doing it any time soon maybe once ICS is out and there's a root method out.
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In what I have experienced, the phone bricks after unrooting and installing the update. I was wondering do I need to relock the bootloader. Unrooting alone still produces a paper weight.
Update: Locking the BL and updating worked. 2.3.3 working well unrooted. Seems the problem was with the flashtool.
I just updated and all I had to do was relock bootloader, it will wipe root by itself and when the update is done just unlock and reroot with same methods

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