Hello,
I think XDA is the biggest Smartphone Community in the whole world,so why we don't make
a XDA Phone?
Designed and developed by XDA
We can make our "dream phone",our Rom,our parts!
I don't have so much ideas for the design,maybe someone has one^^.
Some parts
Rockchip
I know what sounds a bit crazy,but I think we have enough really good Developers and Engineers.
No offence , but your username makes me suspect the credibility of this thread .
Herpderp Backflip.
I actually had a quite wild thought about such thing too. I hope this will workout
Sadly I dont think we have the man power to get an actual phone going. We would be better off just asking an OEM to design a phone with such and such specs and design software around it.
Phone + XDA Sticker = Profit??
Sticker+Phone,not the best^^
Then the Chinese can make phones,we can do it,too!
Maybe we can contact a chinese Factory and ask them,so we produce cheap.
And maybe we don't have enough man power,but if we all work together as one person we will make it happen!
Design=easy
Parts=difficult
I think we have to make the design first,when we know which parts we can put in.
Big Phone=good parts
Small Phone= tiny=worse parts!
I'm not really good with product design (don't wonder I only make lines xD),but I think we can make it just like the Xiaomi M1 or Meizu MX 4
and we also have to see what the produce fair!
No child work,save working,getting enough paid (for me one of the most important things)!
this will never happen.
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA App
Such a long shot.
really? how much % of the world smartphone users population care or even know about XDA forum?
In Germany 80-90%,but we can make adds on some websites,just like Huawei do it in XDA
And I contacted Rockchip:
They want for the RK2918 150€=193$ per 10.000 mobile phones.
And I know what is a crazy plan,but think how it would be if we have our one phone:
Always updates,rooted and all that stuff,no one has to tell us the rules,beacuse we make them!
P.S.:I'm really happy that high ranked members are interseted for this!
Thanks!
I'd really love this idea. Have had it in my mind for quite a while.
If it would happen (God bless that) I would really love it to have a big NAND and the possibility to have multiple OSes installed in NAND Like WP7, Android and WinMo haha Just thoughts thou, but a better version of the HD2 is like the mother of all mobile hardware as long as it keeps the possibilities
Yes we can!
You know what .... this is such a freaking sick idea!!
You know what else? any one who says it cant be done should dif!!
Can I do this? No. I suck. Also time factor being a slave etc.
BUT you are going to tell me as a community we cant come together and make this happen? THIS.... THIS I would donate for.
IF A SINGLE LOWLY NOBODY can bild a freaking ipad....
WE CAN build an xda phone! WOW ! imagine what a revolution!
INstant gratifacation? doubtfull! But... imagine....building a phone that outperforms, outsells and out does everyphone....
A phone based on a community not on some GREEDY corporation.
YES it may cost A LOT. maybe even like 800$. or more.
BUT you could garuantee it not being obsolete for at least 5 years?
10,12 16 mp camera? quad core? How bout a phone based on pc design meaning, the phone is a shell, mother board, chips, internal memory can all be updated? even screen can be swapped for an updated version?
OMG the possibilities are endles!
MacGyver hardware phone!!! hells yeah!
Imagine... the demise of the iphony by the sword of xda!
I say bs to anyone who says this cant be done?
You cant telll me there are no members here who dont have lucrative funds to back this development
Jeez reverse engineer all the best phones and make it a super phone!
SEE? See? See, god, I told you should let me win the lottery! Now how am I gonna fund this superfantubulastical idea!! Well guesse i gotta sell my soul now....HEY! Satan! can I talk to you for a sec....
This will not and should not ever happen.
Not feasible.
Not needed.
XDA is a development forum not a brand.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.......
Business Model
conantroutman said:
Phone + XDA Sticker = Profit??
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1) Create a company to recycle used phones in a "green" way, for a fee.
2) Use the money to buy XDA stickers to put on phone, pocket the rest.
3) ???????
4) Profit
forget the phone, I just want a t-shirt...
I think that would be realy cool. It would be realy nice if we could get an Android phone that comes with root and an open bootloader right out of the factory. I actualy think there would be a market for that.
Would probably be hard, but it would be possible. You cant make it on your own but you could surly find a company in china that woul make the hardware. And xda could make the software.
I think the problem is that we would need quiet some money to get started.
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i would only buy it if it had a serious SoC, like exynos or tegra 3, i wouldn't use snapdragon because the adreno GPU is a joke and the rocketchip looks cheap but i woud be in favor of a large NAND from multiple OS's but WinMo and WP7 wouldn't work as it's illegal to put them on anything that dosen't come with it but we could possibly put meego or the teizen, bada love child as long as it's open-sourced
Quite a brilliant idea actually, like those limited edition phones with maximized specs. Perhaps to use as a development phone perhaps? )
I'm doubting there'll be someone who wants to lead this project..
Hoping for it tho
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I changed my HTC device with an Apple Iphone..the major thing I miss is the XDA developers forum ... In the future can we (about 5000k people..) at least hope to have one ? cheers....
probably not, this forum is for ms pda's (mainly htc), notice not much talk of palm devices either you'll probably have to find other forums that discuss the iphone cuz ive noticed not many people on this forum even like the word iphone unless its getting bashed. so good luck but i wouldnt look forward to it
I heard Apple is releasing the dev kit for the iPhone...so people can start writing their own apps for the phone. Also heard something about being able to run webapps offline.
I'm sure the iPhone forums will take off as soon as people start developing for the iPhone.
yeah it's true. tomorrow for the devkit !
If it's not made by HTC you won't get it through the door. There'll be sites-a-pleanty once a devkit is out but probably none as good as this. I wonder if Apple will set about having them shut down? You can't have people using their own property for anything they want you know.....
another issue is that apple use objectC rather then c++ or c# or even old c or poorly VB
and objectC is a world apart from the other languages
HTC
vicer said:
I changed my HTC device with an Apple Iphone..the major thing I miss is the XDA developers forum ... In the future can we (about 5000k people..) at least hope to have one ? cheers....
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This is really an HTC only forum.
Sorry to plug, but forums.macrumors.com has a pretty good iPhone/iPhone Hacking Community.
Hey!
A little Definion about "XDA":
"The [O2] Xda brand is a range of O2-branded Windows Mobile PDA phones, produced by multiple manufacturers (mainly HTC, Quanta and Erima). The first model was released in June 2002. The "X" represents convergence of voice and information/data within one product; the "da" stands for "digital assistant", as in PDA."
I think this forum should be specified in Windows Mobile. The iPhone isn't a productively device on the market! And the people who buy this expensive "Fun-Gadget" doesn't use it to develop something on it.
"The iPhone is a dust-bin: It can look beautiful, but the contents are rubbish."
Sorry for my bad English! Greetz
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"The iPhone is a dust-bin: It can look beautiful, but the contents are rubbish."
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I have to second this motion.... +2
XDA is a HTC community, you have other places.
Howard forums
hackint0sh
Google can help to find more. I am giving you some than give fast responses.
Rubbish??
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What part of the contents are rubbish? Just wondering becuase I just got a good deal on a 16gb and I cant find flaws. BTW, I purchased it to resell it becuase it was way too cheap. Not to mention, it would give me a chance to see what all the hype was about. Let me tell you...I know why so many devs on xda are trying to emulate some of the features and charecteristics of the iphone. Bcuase it is the best phone/handheld device that I have ever played with.
In my idea, not to go into all of the greatness of the iphone in my opinion, but if I can buy a 16gb for $400 (unlocked to use with any gsm carrier), $5.99 T-ZOne hack and many other cool things like SNES, NES with each having about 100 or so games etc. and the abilty to add 12 movies and over 700 songs and still have over 7gb to play with and still running like lightning.......my mind is made up.
DOnt let me forget about the accelorometer and the games that are available that utilize the accelorometer.
Please tell me where the rubbish is.
Oh and BTW, I am locked in my Verizon contract for another couple of months on my 6700 so I cant %100 test the calling capabilities yet as I have not hooked this one up.
The final devices just got announced, devs will probably take a swing at it, AND ive seen some wm7 dumps going around the forum. sooooo... what do you all think? i'd love to have a play with this, just like every other ZOMG-NEW-UI-I-GOTS-TO-HAVE! guy here haha
is there already some work going on?
Zero chance, It would be illegal to do so as the license is sold with the device,
Just for fun?
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I don't want it on my phone... WP7 has the ugliest UI I've ever seen. Some animations and transitions looks cool but other than that it just makes wanna throw up!
im more into it for the social interaction, the way facebook integrates and everything, it looked pretty good in all the demos..
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Zero chance, It would be illegal to do so as the license is sold with the device,
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in that case
let it be done
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aaaaarrggh
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Yeah. Stupid laws... It's no different than someone stealing your car.
I suppose if someone wanted to, they could create a customized launcher and a bunch of other apps that looked like wm7, but I fail to see the point.
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in that case
let it be done
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please read the forum rules on warez, piracy an also your language ......
who cares about wm7?
m$ is afraid about android...
the only thing that i don't understand is why a wm phone and an android phone have the same prices with similar hardware...
when you buy the phone you pay the licence too... android phones must cost less then a wm phone...
or not?
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when you buy the phone you pay the licence too... android phones must cost less then a wm phone...
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First of all, I believe the phone manufacturers still pay a fee to Google for the GApps.
Secondly, it's all about profit margins - Android is attractive to companies like HTC because they likely make more money per unit than they would if they use WP7.
Regards,
Dave
There may already be several threads in other sections discussing this anticipated update, but I thought why not. Happy New Years Ladies and Gentlemen.
Microsoft has stuck to their slogan "Early 2011".
The little blue birdy however flew a little closer to sources and overheard "January".
As of now, the update has not yet been released obviously so this gives us all the opportunity to discuss some of our individual expectations from this upcoming update. You may have heard, there may be several updates, not only one.
Let's try not to get too loony but in all seriousness, when I first purchased my HTC MOZART with WP7 I did so without much research and maybe too much faith in Microsoft.
I thought MAC - PC, IPhone - WP7
I can tell you all now, I was severely traumatized by my experience when I first discovered I couldn't customise my ring-tone. With tears still pouring down my face, and Chevron still non existent, I went to Copy and Paste something. It was then that I learnt that the World had already ended.
Now like I said, we can't expect too much but I just want to state what I personally believe and after some scrutiny of my opinion wisely believe I'm in the position to state several of the most 'CRUCIAL' changes that need to take place ASAP on WP7. The severity of leaving these features out has already taken on another dimension. Some features were intentionally left out for future profiteering and others simply because the potential of such features could be exploited in unexpected ways.
Taking this path however has led some of Microsoft's most loyal customers questioning the developmental plans and reasoning's behind a number of decisions.
You have to think, these phones aren't toys. These phones (due to the mandatory specifications Microsoft has set) pack quite a powerful punch in terms of processing capabilities. The true capabilities of these technologies seriously can be quite dazzling. For one reason or another, unfortunately such open technology will probably never fall into the hands of the masses.
However, they seem to have gone a bit too far with the intentional tampering of functionality and the unprecedented level of scrutiny has left Microsoft scrambling to find the excuses, and forced them to re-think their relationship with their customers.
Julian Assange is here questioning which governments are responsible for all these dead civilians and we need to seriously point exactly at the people in charge (Governments - Developers all the same) and demand why, with the level of power they hold, the technology, funds and potential they have access too, are there basic features missing on these GOD DAM PHONES!?
One might state, "If you don't like it, then go somewhere else!"
Well "NO!" is what I would say. Why am I being forced to use outdated technology just to enable me to change my ring-tone! It seems the more we human beings accomplish technologically, the less we are able to utilize it with some common sense. One step forward, two steps back!
It is these corporations that hold the responsibility and have the obligation to set a standard with technological advancements. They are the leading manufacturers, researchers and developers enabling the wonderful standard of life we all possess today. BUT, you have to remember, the people at the front end of these achievements need to be held accountable when a phone shows up on the market that doesn't allow one to change their ring-tone! We as a group of human beings are able to discuss and elaborate. If we are standing here in 2011 with a phone that doesn't allow one to change their ring-tone, we need to stop and start wondering what the hell is going on.
"Yes, I just payed top dollar for one of the most advanced phones out there! So advanced you don't need to change your ring-tone, you just select one out of a list! HOW INGENIUS! "
"Yes, I just payed two million pounds for a luxurious house! It's so freakin high class and luxurious it doesn't even have any DOORS OR WINDOWS!"
See the similarity?
Please Microsoft, give me my Ring-tone back. Give me the Flash Player I deserve. Give me my Landscape Address Bar in MIE. Give me my Multitasking. Give me my Copy/Cut & Paste. Give me my Media player that allows me to Fast Forward/Rewind with my own fingers. YOUTUBE BY HTC DID! Give my USB storage functionality! After all, there is a memory card in there! Give me a voice on my Maps to let me know when I have to turn. Do something about this 'SEARCH' button please. It keeps interrupting me on practically everything I try to do on the phone. At least create a locking mechanism or even give me the option to use it for something more USEFUL! BING IT OFF. Get it?
Anybody else with any realistic functions they believe is a basic requirement? If so please name them.
When the Update is finally released, we can further elaborate on the improvements. I'm sure there will be improvements. WP7 can do better!
Best Regards, Dontworry
Man if only Bluetooth file transfers could be added in the update..
I have a samsung i780 for 2 years already
I lost my mind and bought one HTC HD7 without researching
Please microsoft, do not make me regret more than I already am
it's sad that I feel better with my old i780 with a fake copy of WM6.5
listen to this man, makes us happy.
Guys you must not compare it with the win 6.x phones. Please jsut think about the potential and look at what you do with this phone instead of what it can't.
I jumped from my beloved pimped qtek 9000 to HD7 and i must say.....even if the qtek is so yesterday .... but the WM 6,5 with working bluetooth-Garmin XT and other cool features was untill today way better than WM7.
I Understand that the 7 software is still in developement, but it is not yet worth the money, the time that i invested just to find out why the bluetooth wouldnt work and so on and so on.
I honestly believed that it would be a realy woooooow phone but it is not. So far it is an overpriced not so usefull dissapoitement.
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Guys you must not compare it with the win 6.x phones. Please jsut think about the potential and look at what you do with this phone instead of what it can't.
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Well 4 starters........it would be very usefull if it "could" establish a bluetooth connection with my qtek or for that mater with my hp laptop. That would be wooooooow. On the other hand it cant do much more than a HD2 with a pimped WM 6,5.
Search key really annoy my Mozart
Double click or confirm or somethings for HOME (Start) key in running applications
I want Proximity sensor to disable all key when cover with somethings else
(in running applications)
sorry for my poor ENGLISH
guys u are wasting time and space on XDA by creating those use less threads.... there are so many out there...
i feel so sorry for those ppl who buy things with out knowing what they are getting and then B#%@& about it like a girl... no one put a gun to your head to buy a WP7, u did it with the free will...
and come on i gave up on the Samsung i780 in 6 months as it was a mistake i made buying, which i corrected by getting a HTC Touch Pro. the screen was crap as the touch penal never work... the screen size did not allow me to run so many apps, it was so slow... so if u have used i780 for 2 years u should be glad that u bought a WP7 device as its smooth and fast..
CES is around the corner and i think the update will be launched there....
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Well 4 starters........it would be very usefull if it "could" establish a bluetooth connection with my qtek or for that mater with my hp laptop. That would be wooooooow. On the other hand it cant do much more than a HD2 with a pimped WM 6,5.
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come on u want to compare WP7 devices with your qtek..... u must be kidding me... is that company still making PDA???
i am using HD7 since the frist week of its launch... and as i have unlimited data plan i can send all the files by email, so no need to file transfer, my photos are sent to my sky drive so any one with access can view or download it.
a house so luxurious it has no windows..... wow great place to throw stones huh... just sayin... plus i agree nobody twisted anyones arm to buy one.... the fanboys need to stop cryin like girls... and i can say that... im a girl...
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come on u want to compare WP7 devices with your qtek..... u must be kidding me... is that company still making PDA???
i am using HD7 since the frist week of its launch... and as i have unlimited data plan i can send all the files by email, so no need to file transfer, my photos are sent to my sky drive so any one with access can view or download it.
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I dont want to compare anything and it wouldnt be fair, but on the qtek the bluetooth worked and with WIMO 6,5 by Tomal it was fast.
Oh and i dont need a phone for sending some pics to a sky drive to show them to other people. A working bluetooth would be fine.
Oh and changing ringtones too.
Get the point?
Adobe reader also.....more for a job thing than sending photos. The qtek made a hell of a job there regarding my buisiness.
So the post with the lux house....is not so far fetched after all :-D:-D:-D
cut it off guys
if you dont like it, you can just find more suitable phone for you
but be sure that you do some research on that phone before you buy
and stop whinning about this is not good compare to that...blah blah
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cut it off guys
if you dont like it, you can just find more suitable phone for you
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Yeah, you are right. And it seems that soon many people will do so as downgrading mobile computer (which was any WM6.x device) to just fancy phone is not what the people doing real job with the phone are expecting. I'm just waiting for the WP7 update and if it does not contain the mandatory tethering ... bye-bye WP7. Too expensive toy ... that does nothing
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Too expensive toy ... that does nothing
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Well it does everything a Phone should.... your expectations are obviously higher then this.
Mine does everything I need, after coming from iPhone 4 and Desire HD there isn't anything in particular that I miss. Yes, it doesn't have all the same features but that's the same with any platform you choose.
Hello with the the new updates is the phone now worth considering ?
Currently I am using a desire HD
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intrancer said:
Hello with the the new updates is the phone now worth considering ?
Currently I am using a desire HD
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I would personally wait for Nokia WP7, Thats when you'll see some good hardware / camera etc...
I bought mine two weeks ago. It is not perfect, i'll not lie. But it is the OS that I like most (I have iPhone 4 and Droid too). Android is laggy, even with overclock, and it feels.. like a beta. Worse, Alfa version. Everything is smooth and pretty in WP7.
I was willing to wait for Nokia devices, but i read that Nokia will only release one phone this year. And seriously, I don't trust Nokia. I don't want to buy Nokia's test phone, and I don't want to wait until next year.
Just buy it already, and join us
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I bought mine two weeks ago. It is not perfect, i'll not lie. But it is the OS that I like most (I have iPhone 4 and Droid too). Android is laggy, even with overclock, and it feels.. like a beta. Worse, Alfa version. Everything is smooth and pretty in WP7.
I was willing to wait for Nokia devices, but i read that Nokia will only release one phone this year. And seriously, I don't trust Nokia. I don't want to buy Nokia's test phone, and I don't want to wait until next year.
Just buy it already, and join us
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For 3 iterations, I've always said android feels incomplete. Even on the tablet side, android feels very incomplete and I guess this has made OEMs feel like they can do what they will to cover android's shortcomings - specifically in their management of OS, fragmentation, and acceleration.
The iphone felt finished to me - even if I didn't like the iphone platform at all. Everything just worked and ran quite effectively. It was cohesive and central when it was released.
What I enjoy about windows phone is that it carries the cohesion of apple, and totally ramps it up full blast making it an incredible platform to code on, experience, and use on a daily basis.
I do miss flashing custom roms for one reason - I HAVE A DELL VENUE PRO and so far its one of the most closed wp7 devices on the market! Period! But even then, the only thing I want is root access to the registry. Not so much optimize much because the os is damn good as is.
Are there limits to windows phone 7? Sure all platforms have limits. But I think in time windows phone will definitely be a household name. All it really needs is good advertising at this point.
My biggest issue with WP7 right now is not the missing featurs, but rather the lack of quality hardware. That having been said, the Samsung Focus is very nice. It takes amazing pictures. The screen is big and beautiful. It is sleek, and has long battery life. My only complaint is how slick the plastic is. Would have been nice to have a more rubbery texture to it or something.
Like every OS WP7 has its cons and pro's but to me it's just the experience as a whole that stands out to the rest. I'd certainly recommend a WP7 device to everyone who wants to buy a smartphone. Certainly the one's who owned an Android device before like myself.
I'm happy with my Trophy. I love the hardware. Have a nice grip, and an awesome screen. Not too large, nor too small. It's just the perfect size to me.
The plastic doesn't feel cheap, and doesnt look cheap. I recommend. And it is worth a look.
Thanks for feedback ... I use the following apps remote desktop, facebook,Twitter,slingplayer,navigation and need a good quality camera .... I'm looking at the apps market to see if I can find any apps like this..... I was disappointed to see no flash for browser....
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LG Quantum == great hardware
I love my LG Quantum.
I need a keyboard for business emails. I sometimes write mails on it longer than I do at my desktop computer. Try that on the on-screen keyboard.
But, if I just have a few words, the on-screen is fine. And the word-correct is amazing on WP7.
Friends at work have Samsung Focus and love it. Most people DON'T need over 8GB of flash, because with ZunePass, one can stream what one doesn't have, and then just download what they want to keep.
WP7 really is GREAT STUFF, and getting better with time.
Enjoy Windows Phone 7!
-e
intrancer said:
Hello with the the new updates is the phone now worth considering ?
Currently I am using a desire HD
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this is a really silly question, ppl who like android will tell you no and ppl who like wp7 will ask you to move....
this is really very personal... its like you asking ppl what car should i buy
you should buy if you like wp7 not because ppl think u should buy...
best thing you can do is go play with different devices in the store and see which one you like better.
WP7= fast and smooth, works out of the box great.
Android= very versatile, but does have some lag and might require some tweaking to get the best out of the device.
Just depends on what you are looking for.
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Hello with the the new updates is the phone now worth considering ?
Currently I am using a desire HD
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+1 on this. I read an article in another post and it has me holding off a WP7 purchase for now. 5-reinstal limit on paid apps! Hell no! It aint worth it if that's how it's gonna be. At least being a smartphone it will have all the common features on phones these days, but the 5-limit will kill it for me.
Dam a limit ... well well..... that's no to wp7 .. thanks for letting me know about that
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this is a really silly question, ppl who like android will tell you no and ppl who like wp7 will ask you to move....
this is really very personal... its like you asking ppl what car should i buy, thats total bull ****...
you should buy if you like wp7 not because ppl think u should buy...
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I don't think its a silly question... so far people that have had both have given me pros and cons those who have moved to wp7 have shared what they miss .... I am asking for owners experience of the phone... not if they like the color of the device...
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FriedWP7 said:
+1 on this. I read an article in another post and it has me holding off a WP7 purchase for now. 5-reinstal limit on paid apps! Hell no! It aint worth it if that's how it's gonna be. At least being a smartphone it will have all the common features on phones these days, but the 5-limit will kill it for me.
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To be clear - there is NO 5-reinstall limit.
The limit is 5 devices.
Why can't people get this simple facts right?
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To be clear - there is NO 5-reinstall limit.
The limit is 5 devices.
Why can't people get this simple facts right?
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Don't look at me dude. The article was official and from a microsoft answer guy. Don't hate on ppl who believe what it says. Did you read the word in that screenshot? ****! I'm a big time gamer and **** things up all the time. I might have to reinstal my games a bunch of times. Pay once dude. No more.
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Don't look at me dude. The article was official and from a microsoft answer guy. Don't hate on ppl who believe what it says. Did you read the word in that screenshot? ****! I'm a big time gamer and **** things up all the time. I might have to reinstal my games a bunch of times. Pay once dude. No more.
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What are you talking about?
I'm not hating on you. I'm telling you dumbass tech sites have once again failed to check their facts. You can reinstall as many times as you like.
digime said:
What are you talking about?
I'm not hating on you. I'm telling you dumbass tech sites have once again failed to check their facts. You can reinstall as many times as you like.
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No offense dude but until I see oficial word from microsoft that it aint true, I'm gonna hold back.
Well for me - yes and no.
If you don't care so much about features than WP7 is in many ways great.
But for me after 3 months of extensive usage - I start to have enough of stupid limitations. In March we will get only c&p and no other functionality enhancements.
I like how this WP7 behaves but it's totally unfinished product.
I rather accept a little choppiness but have all the features than use super fluent skeleton.
BTW this WP7 super fluent behaviour is a little myth. I see little freezes all the time.
More I think of it I see myself getting Android device soon. I don't care if it is "choppy", what is kinda BS TBH. I saw many current strong Androids which are smooth.
And they have oh so much more to offer right now. Sad but true.
I can't even buy apps and nobody knows WHEN this will be possible. And so on.
It will take a year or more to bring WP7 to desired state and I think some of the very useful features will not be supported ever.
Sorry for the rant but after the joy of using something nice has worn off, I just more and more miss features which are cruical for me and it's more than one thing.
I imagine getting SE Arc....
But I still didn't "give up". WP7 is still a great foundation.
intrancer said:
Hello with the the new updates is the phone now worth considering ?
Currently I am using a desire HD
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
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If you've been using Android especially with Sense I don't see how you could ever switch to WP7. I have an HTC Incredible and I bought an HTC Surround to play around with a week ago. The Surround has already been sold. After using Android for years WP7 seems like a joke right now. It is almost closer to a feature phone than a smartphone. I was going to keep it just to use as a Zune and for the Xbox Live features. My original Zune 30GB is 5 times the music player a WP7 phone is. The Xbox live stuff...I'm playing a game, let me switch to something else for a second...Go back to the game, wait loading? Oh yeah, no multitasking.
Maybe if you were coming from a feature phone WP7 might seem nice, but it is far behind Blackberry, Android, and iOS. Even my Samsung Blackjack with WM 6.1 was far more usable. It sucks because I am a Microsoft fanboy. I love my Xbox, my Zune, Windows 7, etc. But WP7 is pretty bad I thought.
It pains me to see this wonderful project die out so quickly. I feel as if there is a way but the motivation to find is close to zero. I have taken it upon myself to call all lumia and windows experts to revive this project as it will lead to many great things in the future. I am offering $200 to each developer who is willing to make android a reality on lumia devices. I have researched the little progress we have made and feel that the n9 is very similar to our device. This means we can change and use there ports to our advantage.
Please I'm calling all devs to help in this task!
Virusbetax said:
It pains me to see this wonderful project die out so quickly. I feel as if there is a way but the motivation to find is close to zero. I have taken it upon myself to call all lumia and windows experts to revive this project as it will lead to many great things in the future. I am offering $200 to each developer who is willing to make android a reality on lumia devices. I have researched the little progress we have made and feel that the n9 is very similar to our device. This means we can change and use there ports to our advantage.
Please I'm calling all devs to help in this task!
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Let me ask you one simple thing: Why?
Why do you want to have Android running on a Lumia WP7 device? If you want Android, than simply by an Android phone. Or go and by a Nokia N9 and Install Andoid JellyBean Alpha 5 (i think this is the latest release).
I have Android running on my Nokia N9, and it's nice, and respekt to the developers, but it's not stable, not everything is working and maybe it will be like on the N900, stuck in alpha or beta state, because of issues no one could see in the beginning...
N9 has 1GB RAM, Lumia800 has only half of that... Do you really think Android is running smooth on a Device less than 1GB RAM?
I don't.
Another thing i thought about:
Android can only run on Nokia N9 with dual boot. I don't think we have the way to install dual boot on any WP7 devices. Even though we have full unlock now (respekt to ultrashot at this point!!! )...
Another thing: The Hardware of Lumia phones is great for WP7. But only for WP7. For every other system, it's way too weak.
I wish it wasn't so. If there is anyone out there who can help I'm waiting. I really like android but I can't find the n9 anywhere where I live and it's price is way to high.
Seriously, better spend your 200$ into an Android device, there are enough out there that will suit your needs. It doesn't make sense to spend 200 bucks for a port/OS that isn't designed for the Lumia. Also 512MB RAM is maybe really too low for current Android versions.
I agree... Take your Lumia, sell it, use the money with your $200 to buy the Android phone you want and stop Trolling the Windows Phone threads... It's not possable right now on ANY WP7/WP7.5 device.
And no, I dont think any one is doing it nor cares to...
DavidinCT said:
I agree... Take your Lumia, sell it, use the money with your $200 to buy the Android phone you want and stop Trolling the Windows Phone threads... It's not possable right now on ANY WP7/WP7.5 device.
And no, I dont think any one is doing it nor cares to...
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Dude, you really need to chill. Who died and made you God? If the man wants to port Android on a Lumia or a toaster, let's see if we can help him. It's what makes these communities work.
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Dude, you really need to chill. Who died and made you God? If the man wants to port Android on a Lumia or a toaster, let's see if we can help him. It's what makes these communities work.
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Unless you are a developer who would do it, I don't see how this $200/developer offer really is sane? Ok, I undersand as a hobby and to learn and develop this is fantastic. BUT it is as good as "port Jelly Bean on iPhone 5 please!" - unrealistic.
If I had as much money as the OP, trust me, I would own an iPhone 5 and pre-order the Lumia 920 and HTC 8X and then get the new Nexus!
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Unless you are a developer who would do it, I don't see how this $200/developer offer really is sane? Ok, I undersand as a hobby and to learn and develop this is fantastic. BUT it is as good as "port Jelly Bean on iPhone 5 please!" - unrealistic.
If I had as much money as the OP, trust me, I would own an iPhone 5 and pre-order the Lumia 920 and HTC 8X and then get the new Nexus!
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That wasn't the point. Poor guy gets flamed by some entitled little snot when he/she is asking a legitimate question. I don't know if it can be done or not, the point is maybe someone reading this does know and can offer help. We were ALL noobs once.
No need to be rude here, but porting Android to Lumia 710 just doesnt make any sense. If you want Android just buy Android device.
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No need to be rude here, but porting Android to Lumia 710 just doesnt make any sense. If you want Android just buy Android device.
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Last time I checked this was xda DEVELOPERS. Porting an OS into a device with a completely different arrangement is how innovation is fostered. The whole Open WebOS project is based on that philosophy. Porting Android on the HP TouchPad, the HTC HD2 and others would never have happened if someone didn't first get a wild hair up his a$$. I encourage this idea no matter how crazy it sounds. You never know what you may discover while you're on that path.
Thanks guys for the support and I enjoy the criticism. I just think this phone has potential I didn't mean to anger anybody. I though this forum was for devs who make magic happen on phones that's why I posted this thread. Anyways the lk bootloader is already been installed on this device and fastboot is operational. The only thing in the way is something to do with LCD drivers so it's not a fantasy its close to realistic. Search it on google for yourself. There is github set for this device with the files and installing bootloader is as easy as copying and pasting the bootloader into a certain folder.
I am agreeance with everyone else if you have $200 to burn, buy an Android device
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Last time I checked this was xda DEVELOPERS. Porting an OS into a device with a completely different arrangement is how innovation is fostered. The whole Open WebOS project is based on that philosophy. Porting Android on the HP TouchPad, the HTC HD2 and others would never have happened if someone didn't first get a wild hair up his a$$. I encourage this idea no matter how crazy it sounds. You never know what you may discover while you're on that path.
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Yes this is XdaDEVELOPERS, but the real point here is that the OP wants Android to he's device and is now offering $200 for the port. Ok, it is not because he wants to do it just for the fun, he wants Android. At the same time he says he doesnt have money to buy N9. Now spending $200 for this just doesnt make sense. IF with a ****load of work people would succeed on this, most likely it would be very buggy and missing functionality, at least for a very long time. It is only right that people tell the OP that he is way better off on just buying an Android device than thinking about porting.
I would see this differently if the OP would be here saying look guys, I have ****load of money and I offer $xxx if someone can port Android to Lumia just for the fun of it and see if its possible. In this case of course, this is XdaDEVELOPERS and I wouldnt even comment, just be following can someone really do it.
I also assume that $200 + selling the Lumia would enable the OP to buy a GOOD Android device. Most importantly everything would be working...
EDIT: With quick search I see NEW 16GB SGS II:s for 350€ at eBay.de... Dont know if thats the cheapest, or SGSII best bang for the buck at Android, but Im sure you couldnt go wrong with that if you want that OS.
Here in Italy you can get a Galaxy Nexus for 279€ in some malls.
Sent from my Lumia 800 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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Yes this is XdaDEVELOPERS, but the real point here is that the OP wants Android to he's device and is now offering $200 for the port. Ok, it is not because he wants to do it just for the fun, he wants Android. At the same time he says he doesnt have money to buy N9. Now spending $200 for this just doesnt make sense. IF with a ****load of work people would succeed on this, most likely it would be very buggy and missing functionality, at least for a very long time. It is only right that people tell the OP that he is way better off on just buying an Android device than thinking about porting.
I would see this differently if the OP would be here saying look guys, I have ****load of money and I offer $xxx if someone can port Android to Lumia just for the fun of it and see if its possible. In this case of course, this is XdaDEVELOPERS and I wouldnt even comment, just be following can someone really do it.
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Huh? Buggy and missing functionality is the title of most unofficial Android builds yet people flock to them. A buzz is created and more often than not, bug fixes start cropping up. I'll give you a perfect example. My old Droid Pro had an unofficial CM build for it, but it was based on the Droid 2. My present Droid X has a ton of unofficial builds but none of them work properly. I like the ICS theme a lot but I need my phone to function properly.
It's very easy to just say "buy and Android device and save the $200" then tell that same person to flash a buggy, incomplete ROM and look to the community for help. Obviously the OP prefers Nokia products, and deservedly so, and doesn't want a plasticky Samsung or anything from HTC.
I do not wish to purchase a new android device as I'm under contract as well as I do not feel like going through the hassle of selling my phone (not very popular in USA anymore). And I wanted this port for fun my life didn't depend on getting this port or something. I just feel that we are very close to getting android and trying just a little harder might get it for us. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who wants this port. There are others out there as well who do not have the money to buy an android phone. As you guys said I could easily buy an android phone but I want this for the community not just me.
By the way 275 euros is 400 dollars and 325 euros is like 500 dollars
Everyone who says that "if you have money to offer for devs to try porting android to your wp7, why not try to buy android phone if you want it" is right. But for me, running a different OS on a device/mobile made with specific OS is very cool :fingers-crossed:
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Virusbetax said:
I do not wish to purchase a new android device as I'm under contract as well as I do not feel like going through the hassle of selling my phone (not very popular in USA anymore). And I wanted this port for fun my life didn't depend on getting this port or something. I just feel that we are very close to getting android and trying just a little harder might get it for us. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who wants this port. There are others out there as well who do not have the money to buy an android phone. As you guys said I could easily buy an android phone but I want this for the community not just me.
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You're right. Everyone who are against your idea are just being practical. I don't disagree with them because they are right but i got this unexplained feeling on porting different OS in a specific device/mobile. I do have HD7 and I also want it to be able to run in android OS. It's really cool if it can be done by devs.
I seriously doubt that if Android is succesfully ported to Lumia everything would work... Wlan, bluetooth etc etc... Im sure it would take a lot of time to get it running fully, if ever. Also as brought up here earlier the fact that the 710 has 512mb of ram is going to be an issue with the latest Android builds.
I hope you get the port, dont let me spoil your day.
BTW, 275€=$359 today. And if you are in the States Im sure you can find Android phones even cheaper than I suggested. I think I saw something like 330 bucks for SGSII.
Double_O_Rizer said:
Everyone who says that "if you have money to offer for devs to try porting android to your wp7, why not try to buy android phone if you want it" is right. But for me, running a different OS on a device/mobile made with specific OS is very cool :fingers-crossed:
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You're right. Everyone who are against your idea are just being practical. I don't disagree with them because they are right but i got this unexplained feeling on porting different OS in a specific device/mobile. I do have HD7 and I also want it to be able to run in android OS. It's really cool if it can be done by devs.
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It stands to reason there is a chance. If the HD2, which started life as a Windows Mobile 6.1 device, could be ported with Android AND Windows Phone 7, I don't see why the Lumia 710 couldn't be "Frankensteined" as well. For those of us who are webOS fans, you know what I mean.
Practicality has its merits but there are some of us who like to do the improbable just for sh!ts and giggles. Personally, I shoe-horned a twin-turbo Buick V-6 in a Vega some 30 years ago and followed that with a 351-powered Pinto. The phone analogy is that neither one could be driven in the rain because there was simply no sticky tires back then, so the functionality was very limited.