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XV6875 (Verizon) Digitizer

Anyone know how I can purchase this? I got a tiny scratch on the screen.. well, its more like a crater. Its almost like someone took a needle and dug a chunk out of my screen.. Like a crotch-located steering wheel, its driving me nuts.. Big time..
What are the differences between the GSM and the CDMA screens? Would a Verizon store be able to order this part? I don't want to send it anywhere simply because I don't wan to relock and reflash and wait xyz amount of time to get it back.
To access the digitizer, do we have to go from the battery on up or can it be removed from the top or sides somehow? Thats an important question too.. as removing it from the bottom-up would require a complete dissassembly of the phone.. and I do mean complete.. speaker, radio, motherboard, keyboard, hinges.. ugh..
Or perhaps from the middle? I am pretty sure there are screws on the back. I just wonder what the result would be.. I don't care if it requires purchasing the bezel either.. I just want to make it clear, that the screen works fine and the digitizer senses input on the spot where its 'injured'.. I'd say its no more than.. 3 pixels height.. 1 pixel width..
yeah, I'm nuts. But you'll benefit from that if I end up detailing the digitizer replacement process. Once I have my new screen on I'll try to see what methods I can use to get the old one looking brand new.. I'm ready to wet sand this bastard. jk

Was looking at the ghost armor CDMA page when I (finally) decided that the ebay digitizers were the same damn thing as my Verizon CDMA.. Only difference is the cut out for the front vid cam.. Now, electronically.. is this true? This looks like it would physically work.
http://cgi.ebay.com/For-HTC-Touch-P...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories?hash=item27adf15e64
This digitizer would mate up with the 'slider flex cable w/ earspeaker' as seen on this page..
http://cnn.cn/shop/t7373-touch-pro2-rhodium-c-277_815.html
I'm not saying anything for certain.. its mostly educated speculation.

Dust under dEsire screen...

I notice a piece of lint under the glass on my desire. Not highly noticable, but still... I suppose its kind of impossible to make a screen thatsize and have it sealed with zero foreign objects undreneath? I read that this was a common problem with the nexus one. not sure if its common on Desire, or if the dust was there when I bought it, or got in in the last 3 days.
I wouldn't consider replacing it or anything, not over that. Maybe over a dead pixel, buit not some lint. anyone else notice anything under their glass?

yup got same, a tiny piece above the menu key, about 2 mil from the bottom edge of the screen. not enough for me to send it back though.
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yeah I read quite a few threads on the matter. Theres a good chance you'd get the same in a replacement model so not worth it if its minor. Loving the phone though. some piece of kit

I didn't notice anything under the glass screen so far. I got mine on March 27th.

mcgon1979 said:
I suppose its kind of impossible to make a screen thatsize and have it sealed with zero foreign objects undreneath?
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Well that's not true. I have had an HD2 for several months now and as we know it has an even bigger screen than the desire.
My point is that I have absolutely NO dust particles under my glass. I have looked and looked, under sunlight etc. NO dust. Why? Cus on the HD2, the LCD is glued to the glass/digitizer wich makes it impossible for dust to get in. On the Desire, I believe this is not the case wich means dust will eventually build up under there with time.

Halle said:
My point is that I have absolutely NO dust particles under my glass. I have looked and looked, under sunlight etc. NO dust. Why? Cus on the HD2, the LCD is glued to the glass/digitizer wich makes it impossible for dust to get in. On the Desire, I believe this is not the case wich means dust will eventually build up under there with time.
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Alas you are right. I have more dust under my screen than I did when I got the phone 2 months ago. So... I guess it's not airtight. well, not that I expected it would be. maybe they could not glue the amoled screen to the digitiser/glass in the amoled screens. who knows.

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ive posted a reply about this on the phone restarting thread. essentially htc said that BOTH the dust and phone restarting are their problem so ive had the phone replaced within a week

This is a massive problem with the Topaz. Dust gets in by the top of the volume key. Thankfully it's only noticeable with the phone switched off, so it's not serious issue, just very prevalent.
HTC need to improve their sealing process between digitisers and their screens.

I had dust under the screen after 1 week on the left hand side. Pretty bad design fault from HTC if you ask me. On my old HTC Magic dust came in from the speaker grille and then fell down from the top of the screen.
Back on the desire though I got a case and screen protector from amazon and no more dust has appeared since then.

jaymit said:
ive posted a reply about this on the phone restarting thread. essentially htc said that BOTH the dust and phone restarting are their problem so ive had the phone replaced within a week
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Cheers. I've contacted support, but I doubt they would replace the phone. We'll see.

mcgon1979 said:
Cheers. I've contacted support, but I doubt they would replace the phone. We'll see.
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They offered to take it in for repair (as opposed to replacement). Ah well. I'll hold onto it as its minor. I heard of some guy on here sending it off for repair only to get it back with more dust in it than originally.
I think the best thing is to examine the unit on the first day of purchase with a fine tooth comb. If anything is wrong then send it back to clove or hantec or whoever for a direct swap replacement. Next time... When Desires future heir is born I will do that.

[Q] Hairline crack "under" the screen.

Hi.
I've got a small question for all. I had my galaxy phone for only 2 weeks now, and treaded it with the same care I've done with all my phones (have had earlier a Galaxy S for 1.5 years without a single scratch on it).
Just a few days ago I saw a very thin crack in the screen, stretching from almost the edge of the top left corner, and diagonally down a bit to the right side.
Curiously as I am, I checked if anyone else had the same problem.
I found a few places online, but not a lot.
[cant add links due to first post]
I want to know if this can be a build problem, since I'm pretty sure I didn't miss treat it.
It doesn't affect the usability of the screen, meaning all pixels and everything with the touch layer seems to be working perfectly, and its quite hard to spot even if you know its there. You need the right amount of light and angle to see it. Perhaps that's why I cant find a lot about it.
Has anyone a similar problem?

That sucks. You might not be able to exchange it since that is physical damage. Youre probably going to have to live with it, sell it or get it repaired which will be costly.
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Is that on the digitizer or on the glass? If its on the surface you could throw a screen protector on it to fill it in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoMRO4OiXw4
if its on the digitizer, that shouldn't happen. I would try and get it replaced.

there is certainly no harm in taking it back to the place of purchase to see if they are willing to help...

I've tried to take it back, but they didn't want to take it without examination, and that will cost $150, and from experience, they will probably come to the conclusion that its not a manufacturer error (unless several people reports the same issue)
Its not in the top glass, but as far as I can see, its not in the digitizer either (I assume the digitizer would at least behave differently with a crack in it)
Still hoping that more people have this problem, since that would prove that its a bad batch or something..

Hi Mazy,
I just discovered a hairline crack on my nexus too.
Unfortunately I don't have a camera right now to take pictures of it, but suffice to say the crack matches the one you have!
I cannot think of how this crack came to be - its so new and hasn't been mistreated at all.
I'll try and upload some photos in the next few days if I can borrow a camera to do so.

With some effort I managed to get to take a photo with a webcam (see attachment).
I haven't yet contacted the place of purchase to see what can be done about this - I'll keep this thread posted.

Thanks for that image.. This seems to be more than a coincidence, the angle and size of the crack seems very similar. I suspect that your phone works as normal as well, and that the crack is more or less invisible in normal usage, but in specific angles it shines up?
Have you used any "heavy" program for a long time, meaning did you use a program that could make the phone become warm?
We have two similar phones here, but only one is cracked, and thats the one that we used as GPS, and using that, the phone gets hotter than normal. I dont know if that can affect it at all, but Im trying to figure out what caused it.

Hey op is your phone GSM or CDMA? Australian guy I assume yours is GSM.

I have the exact same crack that you have found in your screen. (Verizon LTE version) Thought maybe I had simply been careless with my phone but then started thinking that it might be a manufacturer issue.

Buff McBigstuff said:
Hey op is your phone GSM or CDMA? Australian guy I assume yours is GSM.
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Its a GSM, and from the charger I got, I assume it was meant to be shipped to UK (or any other country with that type of outlet)
Slowburn72: if its possible, please take a picture as well, Im planning to use this thread to prove that this is not a user mistreating the phone, but rather some problem in manufacturing or assembly of the phone.

Slowburn72 said:
I have the exact same crack that you have found in your screen. (Verizon LTE version) Thought maybe I had simply been careless with my phone but then started thinking that it might be a manufacturer issue.
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Wow guys, I smell something fishy here. Mark one up as my GN has the same thing.
I was out in the winter sun today for the first time with this phone after having it for about 4 weeks when I saw a line going across from the top left, diagonally down to the right side about 1/3 down.
Immediately I thought, WTF! I have NOT dropped this thing and have NOT sat on it. It's been in a case since day one which should also reinforce it. How the hell did I do this? I even tried rubbing it off when I first saw it thinking it was just another fingerprint smudge.
This is a Verizon LTE version so at this point I don't think this is specific to version.
I will also say that I am shocked that I didn't notice this before being a very picky nerd about this kind of stuff. At the same time, I can't actually see this until I get enough ambient light and hold it on an angle. It's a hairline crack beneath the topsheet of glass but not deep enough from what I can tell to affect the display. Most user damage appears to result in shattered outer glass and the fact that our cracks are the same that this is due to assembly or design.
I have a feeling we aren't the only ones with this issue. I have insurance on the phone but no way am I going to make an insurance claim considering we all have the same, and I mean SAME crack.
I will be printing this thread out when going back to where I got mine to kindly ask for a replacement. I will be taking this one up the chain, if I have to, after reading this thread. I am glad this thread was started.
I think we are on to something...

I would contact Samsung and point them to this thread. Maybe if they see its happening to multiple people they will replace it.

Same hairline crack on mine too!
I have had this galaxy nexus less than 24 hours. I literally watched a small scratch like mark turn into a diagonal and long hairline crack across 1 quarter of the screen. I didn't do anything to the phone I've had a nexus 1 for over year with no crack at all. Now I think I know why the guy was trying to sell me the warranty so hard. Will be returning the GN to best buy for a full refund.
Same symptoms everyone else is listing... shows up in only certain lighting and angles. But marked it is... ever presently defective.

Everyone with this defect, are you on gsm or verizon version? Only reason i ask is verizon version case is slightly modifies which can cause loose volume keys. Perhaps this bigger casing puts some awkward twisting force on the screen from the modified production assembly.
Thats why the crack would be in identical location on every one.

Its happened on both gsm and lte
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I have the exact same "Hairline crack". Tried to get it replaced without success.
Btw, it's a GSM version.

I have a version from telus in vancouver canada. My crack is from top right (to the left of the front facing camera) and runs to the middle left side. There are absolutely no scuff marks on the phone as it has not been dropped once. Phone is in mint condition all except for this hairline crack.
I will be returning to best buy to let them know my unhappiness with this phone.
I suspect a change from inside temp afer taking video and pics all day at the local science world.. then going outside is when I noticed a small crack starting to spread. i had the phone less than 24 hours.
Unimpressed!
I also only kept the phone in my x-Large leather jacket pocket by itself.
When the phone is turned on the hairline crack can only be seen from certain angles. When it is turned off it is easier to see from the photos attached.
Coincidentally, a friend bought the GN and just told me over gchat that the same thing happened to his GN phone, as described here.

I would call samsung. Ask to speak to a manager. That is crap. If this many people are having the same crack, it isnt isolated.

While I do not have this problem, I did want to chime in here. For those of you who tried to exchange your Nexus without success, I highly recommend going to another store or taking the matter up the chain until you get a replacement.
There is absolutely no reason they can't exchange the phone. This is clearly a manufacturing defect and there is absolutely no sign of physical abuse that the user could have done to cause this. If I were in your shoes I would not give up until it got replaced.
My last resort would be to go directly to Samsung with pictures and a detailed explanation of the issue. This is completely unacceptable in my opinion.

Broken Screen - Which part should i buy?

My GF broke the screen on her Droid Incredible, Verizon insurance wants $100 to replace it, so not sure it is worth it for this phone, and she has a few months left before her upgrade is ready. If i am going to try to fix it for her, can anyone with experience tell me what parts specifically I would need? The LCD seems fine, so i would think i can replace just the digitizer, which i can get on Amazon for $16
http://www.amazon.com/Incredible-Sc...ement-Adhesives/dp/B005TGX6X8/ref=pd_cp_cps_0
They also sell with front housing
http://www.amazon.com/Touch-Screen-Glass-Digitizer-Incredible/dp/B005L0XRRM/ref=pd_cp_cps_1
any tips which to buy or what to do etc?
Why would one/How does one know if they need to replace the LCD as well?
All touch aspects of phone working fine and seems like it's just the glass cracked.

Dillsnik said:
My GF broke the screen on her Droid Incredible, Verizon insurance wants $100 to replace it, so not sure it is worth it for this phone, and she has a few months left before her upgrade is ready. If i am going to try to fix it for her, can anyone with experience tell me what parts specifically I would need? The LCD seems fine, so i would think i can replace just the digitizer, which i can get on Amazon for $16
http://www.amazon.com/Incredible-Sc...ement-Adhesives/dp/B005TGX6X8/ref=pd_cp_cps_0
They also sell with front housing
http://www.amazon.com/Touch-Screen-Glass-Digitizer-Incredible/dp/B005L0XRRM/ref=pd_cp_cps_1
any tips which to buy or what to do etc?
Why would one/How does one know if they need to replace the LCD as well?
All touch aspects of phone working fine and seems like it's just the glass cracked.
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I am no expert, but it would seem that if anything under the glass was broken, you would need to replace the lcd (that is, if you could see the lcd "leaking" or being distorted)
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Nothing under the screen seems broken.
Anyone done this?
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Dillsnik said:
Nothing under the screen seems broken.
Anyone done this?
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Unfortunately I have had the pleasure of replacing my digitizer twice. You definitely wanna buy it WITH the frame or housing. The adhesive is like industrial strength and you will end up breaking the original anyways when trying to remove the digitizer from it. I have to warn you that doing this repair yourself will void your warranty. Make sure the digitizer you get comes with the tools required to get the phone apart. You can get this as a package on eBay fairly cheap too. There are about 3-4 circuit strips that will have to be removed from their clips, don't be intimidated by them, but be gentle. Your first time is gonna take you a while, just be patient. If you need to do it a second time, its gonna be a breeze. PM me if you have any concerns during your repair.

yea get a digitizer also,
I had the same thing happen to me, it was a pain but there are a few videos on youtube
that should help you through it, though it doesn't sound like its that bad

Definitely go with the digitizer and housing replacement together. Bottom line, it will make your life so much less of a headache while replacing it.
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I just replaced mine this weekend. I attached some before, during, and after pictures...
These were the guides that I followed:
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfpPS7oO4Q8
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJMAmKpk20c
Personally, I went with just the glass/digitizer (your first link) and it went fine. The glass is difficult to get out of the housing, but it's not that bad. It probably took me 20 minutes to get the old glass out, maybe 5 minutes of cleaning goo from the old adhesive, and probably another 5 minutes to put the new glass back on.
Some Tips:
The pry tool that comes with it is very cheap. I would suggest using it sparingly until you get to the LCD panel extraction and glass removal. You want it to be as in good of condition as can be when you get to those later steps.
Use a blow-drier to heat up the adhesive, and get it to the point where you almost cant touch it. I used some yellow kitchen gloves so I could get it a little hotter and still be able to hold it. I used a combination of my hands and the pry tool and worked mostly along the sides and top first, then separated the bottom last.
The guy in the youtube videos uses glue, but you shouldn't need that. It comes with pre-cut adhesive strips, which work great. One word of caution though... The sheet that they come on is scored for you, but I suggest using an x-acto to cut them out. This is especially important for the thin rectangle that goes around the outside of the glass. You really don't want to pull on that... you don't want it to get stretched or twisted. Summary: the strips work great, just be careful extracting them from the sheet they come on, and placing them on the phone.
Don't forget to get the red earpiece grill off of the old glass before throwing it away. You'll need to super glue that back onto the housing, but it's really easy to see where it goes. This should be the only thing you need glue for.
When removing the glass, cleaning up gunk from the old adhesive, and applying new adhesive, be careful of the electronics at the bottom for your capacitive buttons... you definitely don't want to harm or obstruct those.
This should probably go without saying, but make sure not to touch the inside of the new glass, or the LCD panel. You don't want fingerprints or dust inside the phone. Even if you don't touch it, I would still give it a shot of compressed air right before putting it in, just to make sure there's no dust.
I would say that it's probably worth the extra $10-12 bucks to get it with the housing already included, but it's definitely not necessary if you want to save a little money. As I said above, it only took me about a half hour to get the old glass out and the new glass in, and from what it sounds like, there is still some effort involved even if you get it with the housing (moving the circuitry from the old one). I wouldn't worry about breaking the frame... it's pretty strong. If you break it, you're doing it wrong. Although, if your frame has some scrapes and other assorted road rash on it like mine does (see first picture), then maybe you might want a new one anyway. Another consideration... the reviews on Amazon for the one without the housing are much better, but that could just be because of people who don't know what they're doing... who knows.
If you have any questions, I'd certainly be willing to help... PM me if you want. And if I'm going to be around when you go to actually do the replacement, I can give you my gchat address in case you have any questions during the process.

[Q] Nexus 7 (2013) touch screen!?

Hello,
I'm a new to this so don't be mean.
My nexus 7.2 receives a grayish blueish smudge right down on the bottom middle of the screen probably on the 3rd quarter of the screen. Every time I apply medium pressure to anywhere the on bottom half of the screen the discoloration happens. Is this normal?
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No, that's not normal. Only thing I could think to try would be to try a kernel that allows you to change color and hue of the screen. If that doesn't help it sounds like you either might need to find a new screen and do a self repair or send it off for a fixing. Can't recall anybody else ever mentioning that. Unless somebody else has a better idea though, I think that's your only two options.

...man said:
Hello,
I'm a new to this so don't be mean.
My nexus 7.2 receives a grayish blueish smudge right down on the bottom middle of the screen probably on the 3rd quarter of the screen. Every time I apply medium pressure to anywhere the on bottom half of the screen the discoloration happens. Is this normal?
Thanks
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Does it look like a light bleed or something? I realize you're new and they might not let you post pictures and stuff, but it's hard to say without seeing what the screen does.

It looks like pressure is accumulating upward at the single point, creating a grayish hue. I guess to be an example, when you press hard on an LCD there will be a rainbow hue next to or on the pressure point. But mine is always at a single spot.

Yeah, I think you have a display/hardware issue on your hands. I was just playing Dungeon Hunters last night in landscape and was hitting both sides of my screen pretty intensively and saw no color changes. If it's bad enough, you'll probably need to send it in for repair or try the DIY route. Sorry, not much else I can think of to help with your issue

Okay thank you for the input. I just have one more question, since the pressure seems to accumulatting in one spot, will that crack my screen? Because the color part is minor and I do not mind that slight discoloration. All I really care about is the chance that will crack my screen.

...man said:
Okay thank you for the input. I just have one more question, since the pressure seems to accumulatting in one spot, will that crack my screen? Because the color part is minor and I do not mind that slight discoloration. All I really care about is the chance that will crack my screen.
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I doubt it, not unless you dropped it or something where you think you may have caused a weakness in the glass itself. You gotta remember, on all these device there are multiple layers to the glass itself. I'm guessing there might be a small defect in yours between two of those layers. Do you remember it happening after you did something or did it one day just start happening. If it's the latter, then definitely a manufacturing defect. If it's bad enough, if it were me I'd do some research and see how much it'd be to replace the screen. Depends on how long you were planning on keeping the tablet.

I broke my Nexus's screen and digitizer two weeks ago, I got it replaced by a company and that is when I noticed that grayish hue. Should I go back and ask them about it, because I plan to keep my tablet for a while. Also, as I said before I don't mind the color, I just want to know will my screen crack eventually from the increased (I'm guessing) pressure accumulating in that one spot.

I would definitely go ask them. Being that it is a replacement screen I'd go get either their professional opinion or another. Ideally ask them about it and then get another opinion. In a normal situation I'd say no to your screen possibly cracking, but there's something obviously wrong with the screen. I would say it shouldn't but I'd take it back and get a second opinion just to be on the safe side if it's not too much money.

Thank you for your replies.

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Thank you for your replies.
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Replacement digitizers are of various grades. There are those that work but didn't pass QC because of minor defects. These sell at lower prices. It's true that the LCD surface is harder to crack than the digitizer. But it lies on top of another much thinner layer that would crack as readily as the digitizer given undue pressure while handling it. The people who replaced should definitely be held accountable whether it's their fault or the manufacturer's. Hold them to it since if it's a tiny crack now, it's bound to expand with time..

All good here with Lollipop AOSP !!!

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Replacement digitizers are of various grades. There are those that work but didn't pass QC because of minor defects. These sell at lower prices. It's true that the LCD surface is harder to crack than the digitizer. But it lies on top of another much thinner layer that would crack as readily as the digitizer given undue pressure while handling it. The people who replaced should definitely be held accountable whether it's their fault or the manufacturer's. Hold them to it since if it's a tiny crack now, it's bound to expand with time..
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I went in and asked them about it. They told me since I broke it and had it repaired, not everything is going to be 100% and that funny looking grayish thing from pressure is the result of them putting in a new screen.

Would that grayish thing really cause my screen to crack? What should I do?

...man said:
I went in and asked them about it. They told me since I broke it and had it repaired, not everything is going to be 100% and that funny looking grayish thing from pressure is the result of them putting in a new screen.
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Well then, aren't they saying it's their doing that's causing it? I am not a technician, but I've replaced quite a few. I did it for fun, and a chance at learning what it's made of. Nothing you experienced was supposed to happen with a functional combo (even a B grade unit) , put in place carefully. They're supposed to have the necessary skills. They charged you for it. It doesn't cut it when their reply is that they don't measure up to the job, unless I'm missing something here.
Depending on the tape they used, removing the screen would more likely than not break it. But it's their responsibility. They chose the vendor, and they installed it, and now it has a defect. I'd contact the BBB if they refuse to fix it for free. It's an issue of implied warranty.

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Well then, aren't they saying it's their doing that's causing it? I am not a technician, but I've replaced quite a few. I did it for fun, and a chance at learning what it's made of. Nothing you experienced was supposed to happen with a functional combo (even a B grade unit) , put in place carefully. They're supposed to have the necessary skills. They charged you for it. It doesn't cut it when their reply is that they don't measure up to the job, unless I'm missing something here.
Depending on the tape they used, removing the screen would more likely than not break it. But it's their responsibility. They chose the vendor, and they installed it, and now it has a defect. I'd contact the BBB if they refuse to fix it for free. It's an issue of implied warranty.
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Quick question, how do I attach a picture, so you guys can see what it looks like?
Thanks