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2 weeks and is broken!

2 weeks and is broken!
I had this thing for not more that 2 weeks and the speaker is broken
T-mobile is sending replacement tomorrow, but this is disappointing from HTC
Only this time i will put screen protector from day one.... the screen is not exactly scratch resistant.
If we add the battery performance andddd this is not exactly Desire

How'd you break it?

I work in mobile sales and deal with people like you on a daily basis, "i've only had it 2 weeks and its all scratched/part A broken/ its really slow/ battery life rubbish" I have had my desire for nearly 2 months with no scratches, the screen is as scratch resistant as most touch devices - as in don't stick it somewhere its gonna get scratched- pockets with keys - and you'll be fine. Try and remember how much these devices cost and treat them with respect. If your unfamiliar with Android/smartphones/computers then don't complain if it doesn't work as you'd expect as you have no knowledge or experience to base it on and have more than likely done something wrong, lastly battery life on all touch devices is poor when compared to older mobiles - WE ALL KNOW THIS BY NOW!! - learn how to use power management features and apps such as juice defender, be aware that lithium ion battery life will improve within the first month if used properly and finally if you don't know these things then USE GOOGLE FFS!! This is a forum for android general discussions not to pointlessly whine when you can't look after your own phone! END OF RANT
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It's all scratched up and broken after only two weeks? Unless you work in construction or something you REALLY need to learn how to treat your devices or stick to something more play school. It's an expensive high tech device, it's not a rubber coated brick. It's a small computer with a 3.7 inch GLASS screen... learn how to treat it.

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Try and remember how much these devices cost and treat them with respect.
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This.
People are the same with laptops.. just because its portable it doesn't mean its not a fragile bit of modern tech.

Did I miss something in HTC's advertising? Where does it say its scratch resistant?
And you have had it 2 weeks, the battery should only just be starting to reach its peak performance.
I don't wish to appear cynical but all your statements point to the fact that you don't look after your phone and have limited knowledge about it, I'm not surprised your speaker has broken. Count yourself really lucky HTC are giving you a second chance.

Lol.. lucky their speaker broke, that sounds like a genuine fault.
I have to admit I think the speaker is of bad quality. Bloody built in obsolescence imo

Lucky you are getting a replacement.
Mine has dust under the screen, this is not something I could have done myself, not that amount of dust in that specific place after 2 weeks (I've had the phone longer but it's been there for 2 weeks).
T-Mobile wont do anything, even though the Nexus One has the same issue.

CarpeDiemsNuts said:
I work in mobile sales and deal with people like you on a daily basis, "i've only had it 2 weeks and its all scratched/part A broken/ its really slow/ battery life rubbish" I have had my desire for nearly 2 months with no scratches, the screen is as scratch resistant as most touch devices - as in don't stick it somewhere its gonna get scratched- pockets with keys - and you'll be fine. Try and remember how much these devices cost and treat them with respect. If your unfamiliar with Android/smartphones/computers then don't complain if it doesn't work as you'd expect as you have no knowledge or experience to base it on and have more than likely done something wrong, lastly battery life on all touch devices is poor when compared to older mobiles - WE ALL KNOW THIS BY NOW!! - learn how to use power management features and apps such as juice defender, be aware that lithium ion battery life will improve within the first month if used properly and finally if you don't know these things then USE GOOGLE FFS!! This is a forum for android general discussions not to pointlessly whine when you can't look after your own phone! END OF RANT
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oursoul said:
This.
People are the same with laptops.. just because its portable it doesn't mean its not a fragile bit of modern tech.
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Whiterin said:
It's all scratched up and broken after only two weeks? Unless you work in construction or something you REALLY need to learn how to treat your devices or stick to something more play school. It's an expensive high tech device, it's not a rubber coated brick. It's a small computer with a 3.7 inch GLASS screen... learn how to treat it.
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Agreed to all.
I have had iPhones, HTC HD2, Hero etc and never scratched one of them. I don't use screen protectors or cases, I don't need them as I put the phones in my pocket without my keys in that pocket. My left one is for my phone, my right for everything else.
Unless you have had a dodgy unit that is made of plastic, I'd have to say its probably down to how you are storing it!
Good luck with your second one

Hmm interesting replies...
I was driving from work and my sat nav suddenly went muted ant that’s it. When i shake the device the speaker works on and off... so for me this is dodgy speaker
About the scratches... Its only one tiny scratch caused by my PLASTIC button on my pocket ...

Could be anything, a bit of sand in your pocket and you're screen is full of scratches. Pouch and screen protector all the way! Or pay around 400 euro's (directly or indirectly) and don't care what happens to those 400 euro's.
Anyway, there are always devices that can have some problems like a broken speaker or something.
Try reading a forum about whatever device, and there are always the same 'stories' like yours. Maybe it's because we're promised perfection which is impossible. But perhaps it's we all want to have perfection and don't know that's impossible anymore. But! There is a reason warranty exists... sometimes things break. No matter what product.

[Q] Magnetic Floatation Holder.

Hi there, I am currently making a magnetic floatation holder compatible with any android phone. I recently came across these threads and was wondering if anybody knew how I could shield the internal apparatus from magnetic interference? The phones are currently floating in mid air within the holder box but they refuse to function correctly due to the immensely powerful magnetic field surrounding it. Any advise at all would be greatly appreciated?

Have you tried a rubber lining? That may help...

Tried many linings
Hi, thanks for the speedy response. I have tried everything from Aerospace Aluminium, plastic, rubber and Titanium. The only material that currently works is lead and that has to be 3mm thick which makes it way too heavy. If there is maybe anyone you know that could literally coat each mechanism and distribution board within the device with lead that would be great but also impractical for multiple cellphone compatibility. I am sooo close but yet soo far. I have managed to adjust the magnetic frequency to allow minimal interference but it still leads variable damage in multiple areas. I have recently applied for a patent but I pray I can find an unknown material. I am just missing something but cannot put my finger on it. Anyways thanks for your kind response but I am 2 minutes away from burning everything......Sooo frustrating. If you come up with any ideas pweeez let me know, my brain is fried.

Thanks Guys and Dols
Thanks for your help KT, I managed to get in touch with one of the guys responsible for Maglev train magnetic composite technologies and he agreed to help me for a small percentage of total profits. It will be ready about March next year for initial testing, maybe you guys at XDA can use a few 1hundred units for testing? It seems to me this is the best arena to get a feel for the product? Thanks anyway, I will be looking into it.

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I'm extremely confused to why u would need this... Even more confused about how u would market them...

Great Toy, Looks Alien.
Don't you just hate scratched cellphone/tablet screens. Well now(4months time in S.A) you can simply throw your phone into the invisible magnetic field and when there is no contact with the ground your face cannot be scratched. When you get into your car, simply plug it into your sig lighter and your phone etc can be held in mid air. No more key scratches, no more make-up marks on your device. And it looks really space age, your glowing Android etc phone hovering in mid air. And it will also charge automatically while in the magnetic spectrum. Use it as a night clock/light and place it on(or rather over) your night stand table.
Well at least I hope people would use this because I have spent an infinite amount of time and energy, not to mention hard capital, on this adventure of mine. The ride has been great and tough at times but hopefully the law of thermodynamics will ensure at least a 60% return on energy invested. The guys at Maglev where ecstatic so I am sure they would not help me out as they have unless they knew it was a sure bet. Anyways, thanks for the constructive criticism.

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Don't you just hate scratched cellphone/tablet screens. Well now(4months time in S.A) you can simply throw your phone into the invisible magnetic field and when there is no contact with the ground your face cannot be scratched. When you get into your car, simply plug it into your sig lighter and your phone etc can be held in mid air. No more key scratches, no more make-up marks on your device. And it looks really space age, your glowing Android etc phone hovering in mid air. And it will also charge automatically while in the magnetic spectrum. Use it as a night clock/light and place it on(or rather over) your night stand table.
Well at least I hope people would use this because I have spent an infinite amount of time and energy, not to mention hard capital, on this adventure of mine. The ride has been great and tough at times but hopefully the law of thermodynamics will ensure at least a 60% return on energy invested. The guys at Maglev where ecstatic so I am sure they would not help me out as they have unless they knew it was a sure bet. Anyways, thanks for the constructive criticism.
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My 2c (worth even less )
It sounds very cool, and very techy and geeky, however I don't know if I see the mass market potential for this type of device?
Also I have a couple of questions:
Does the phone hold its position once placed in the magnetic field? Or is it able to rotate freely?
What about the potential effects on wristwatches and other non sheilded devices? I don't want to put my phone in a mag field and have my watch go blank.
That being said I wish you luck - hopefully I'm wrong and you can retire on this idea

Spot On
You are absolutely correct, containment, extrapolation, dispersion on a lateral effect and cross intensification are issues that are currently being worked on. As of yet nobody in S.A has the mechanical techniques nor tools that I require to enclose the radial disturbance, only one company in Germany can manage the calibration needed. And this has only recently been developed through discoveries made on the Large Hadron Collider. Fortunately, the guys at Maglev's, ITSC, have a ready made and diverse magnetic operating coil for my device. With ought going into all the technical babble, I have got a free travel package to Germany next month and they say my mind will be blown away when I see the solution they came up with. And, retirement, no way, my brain could not handle being idle for 5 seconds. These guys are brilliant, I gave them blueprints a week ago and they already have a model I need to sign off on. So I am sure all your devices will not be affected in any way. Gonna hit the waves now, have not surfed in 3weeks. I hope I can count on xda to distribute a few working units when I get back? When you guys O.K a device, it's future is certain.....

I'm a novice so this might be stupid. Your focus seems to be on insulation. Have you tried going the opposite way? Maybe construct some sort of golden faraday cage?
Also, If I got one of those testing units, that would be tits.

im not certian a faraday cage would work. but it would definately be worth trying, not gold though (gold wont conduct magentic flux very well), ferrite, iron, anything that conducts magnetism very well with very little remaining magnetic field when the source is removed (there is a property specified for that, but i cant remember the name). had part would be covering the screen and not being an eyesore. im not gonna watch the thread so OP can pm me for a bit more info if they wish.

any snap shots i know it might be a no but i really want to see this very intrested

Hey sorry, been out of town for a few days. No problem, as soon as I got the reworked casings in place I can send you a pic. Just a tad dicey at the moment due to copy right etc. Oh and brilliant, the Faraday cage worked perfectly in my initial testing +-1year ago but it blocked the entire device off and stopped easy insertion of the phone. All the kinks are pretty much sorted, you can throw the phone from 3metres away and the field will capture it. Received a vid from MGLEV tests, it was lank hilarious, I am so stoked my baby is almost sorted. thanks guys for input, how can I get in touch with xda management, want to organize initial releases for +- 1000 members? Just require delivery reception details and a few agreements, no cost to you at xda at all? Thank you, God Bless.

I think this guy is screwing with us. He sound like a back to the future movie.

And you waited all this time to tell us? (read the last date it was posted).
I see what you mean though, kinda too good to be true or, at least, too expensive to buy commercially

This is not too good to be true. The magnetic levitation technique has been demonstrated even with living beings in lab. There are adornments in market that float in free air with magnetic levitation.
http://www.google.com/search?source...pw.r_cp.&fp=200a4278d8f8f451&biw=1024&bih=655
However, I guess it's far fetched to use it for cellphones since the inteference and damage to components will be too high. However, I doubt the authenticity of this post as MagLev trains have little in their design that'd help shielding a mobile phone.
If scratched surfaces annoy you, use a woolen holder.

hmmm any updates?
I'd love to do testing; got like 4 different phones to test with

[Q] Does the HTC One M8 contain nickel? Any allergic reactions?

Over past few days I have developed a rash on my skin (mostly forearm area). I have analyzed what might of changed (foods, soaps, detergents, etc) and could not think of anything.
My wife pointed this article out this morning: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/07/14/report-says-nickel-in-ipad-other-devices-may-cause-rash/
I got my phone HTC One M8 on 7/5 and am considering this might be the culprit. I have emailed HTC to find out if they use nickel within the construction of the device.
Anyone else experience this?

Funny that you mentioned this, i just read this article before i came here and saw your post. Sorry im new so mods wont let me post links therefore i will copy paste it:
"Apple's iPad may be the cause of unexplained allergic rashes in children, reports The Washington Post, which cites a case study of an 11-year-old boy that was published in Pediatrics medical journal.
The Pediatrics article focuses on an 11-year-old boy who may be allergic to the nickel used in the casing of the tablet device. Following the increasing use of an iPad, the patient developed a rash that would not respond to conventional treatment.
His skin tested positive for nickel, one of the most common allergy-inducing metals, and doctors traced it back to an iPad he had used with increasing frequency the past six months. The iPad tested positive for nickel as well, according to the report.
Doctors advised the boy to use a Smart Case that covers the entire outer surface of the tablet. Similar to other reports of electronic device-induced rashes, the boy's skin condition improved significantly when he started using a case that prevented direct contact with the device.
As noted by the Associated Press, nickel allergies in children appear to be on the rise, with 25 percent of those receiving skin tests testing positive for nickel allergies, up from 17 percent a decade ago.
This iPad isn't the only device implicated in skin rashes. Earlier this year, Fitbit voluntarily recalled its Force fitness tracker after a growing number of users developed contact dermatitis from wearing the band. The rash was originally attributed to nickel in the charging port of the band, but that metal may not be involved as many users covered the nickel-containing port with tape and continued to experience a rash."
Source: Washington Post

You can drive yourself crazy reading stuff like this on the internet. Whether HTC is using nickel or not, it doesn't mean you have an allergy. Could just be a red herring and a coincidence. It can be any number of other environmental factors: pollen, mold, animals, or soaps/detergent (as you mentioned), plus were you outside over the holiday weekend (could be a reaction to sunscreen, heat rash, etc.). Also keep in mind that allergies change over the course of your life. I have allergies that didn't effect me at all when I was younger. So it can be almost anything, even something that didn't give you a rash before.
I'd relax about it. Treat with hydrocortisone cream or similar. And if it doesn't clear up in a week or so, go see a dermatologist and/or allergist.

Wouldn't the rash be on our hands rather than your forearms then? Unless you have a different way of holding the phone than most people
Your best bet is probably writing to HTC to find out what metals are used in the unibody construction.

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Wouldn't the rash be on our hands rather than your forearms then? Unless you have a different way of holding the phone than most people
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My initial reaction was the same. But dermatitis, while often localized to the exposure area, can also be a bit random and unpredictable.
For instance, the article linked in the OP says the boy got the rash "all over his body" and also includes a picture of his back (and I presume he was not rubbing the iPad on his naked back). Its possible that whatever alleged nickel-containing compound was unintentionally spread somehow or other.
Another example is poison ivy, where folks will often spread the plant's oil to various parts of their body after the initial exposure, by failure to properly wash hands or clothing. This has led to the popular misconception that the blister fluid can spread the rash to other parts of the body, or even other people, which is false.
That said, I still think the OP should not jump to the conclusion that a nickel allergy is the culprit, although it may be considered among other factors.
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Your best bet is probably writing to HTC to find out what metals are used in the unibody construction.
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OP stated he has already done so.

redpoint73 said:
My initial reaction was the same. But dermatitis, while often localized to the exposure area, can also be a bit random and unpredictable.
For instance, the article linked in the OP says the boy got the rash "all over his body" and also includes a picture of his back (and I presume he was not rubbing the iPad on his naked back). Its possible that whatever alleged nickel-containing compound was unintentionally spread somehow or other.
Another example is poison ivy, where folks will often spread the plant's oil to various parts of their body after the initial exposure, by failure to properly wash hands or clothing. This has led to the popular misconception that the blister fluid can spread the rash to other parts of the body, or even other people, which is false.
That said, I still think the OP should not jump to the conclusion that a nickel allergy is the culprit, although it may be considered among other factors.
OP stated he has already done so.
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That actually makes a lot of sense, thanks And oh yeah, I missed that in his post.

So far I have found out:
Thank you for your email about construction of the HTC One M8 device from Sprint.
I can appreciate your interest in knowing whether the device has nickel in its construction.
Please note, however, that construction details of our devices are proprietary to HTC. I can only tell you that the device is aluminum-based.
We apologize for any inconvenience you may have experienced.
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After responding in disagreement, I received this:
Thank you for contacting us again about the use of nickel in the construction of your HTC One M8 device from Sprint.
Joey, most of the components used in our devices are proprietary. We do not disclose formulas or composition of the parts to the public in most cases.
We apologize for any inconvenience you may have experienced due to any materials included in your phone.
Thank you once again for contacting HTC. Have a good day!
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jdefran said:
So far I have found out:
After responding in disagreement, I received this:
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They don't deny!
I was wondering about getting a ONE M8 (for test purposes), and found a very cheap second hand. However the guy explained he got allergy to nickel and that it has caused him serious health problem.
However in the Q&A of the page, it also states he's in hospital (doesn't say why) with his device so he won't be able to send it before next week!? If I had an allergy I wouldn't definitely not keep to device causing it?
And so here am I reading this thread and wondering...
EDIT: Sales over so I can't post a link.

first fall to ground, the phone can't power on, bad quality LG

my phone (with a spigen hard case) fall to ground first time, the screen is fine, but I can't power on it anymore...
sent it to LG service, said need 3 days to check what's wrong..
my Nexus 5 fall to ground many times, and working well. and Nexus 5x just one... LG quality now is really bad.

Well, LG might say that user handling of devices nowadays it's very bad.

Hard cases suck for drops. They accept the drop instead of deflecting it like softer ones do. Just my opinion, buy a better case

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Hard cases suck for drops. They accept the drop instead of deflecting it like softer ones do. Just my opinion, buy a better case
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my nexus 5 use spigen hard case too, it fall to ground many time when my son play it... but still working

ourfear said:
my nexus 5 use spigen hard case too, it fall to ground many time when my son play it... but still working
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You don't think anyone dropped their Nexus 5 and it broke too? It's just luck if it breaks or not, as with any phone in a drop.
My 5x fell onto tiled floor with no case or screen protector. Barely even a scuff on two of the corners. Good job LG!
BTW you shouldn't expect a case to help in a drop when it's not designed to help in a drop, isn't advertised to help in a drop, nor was it ever publicly tested in drop tests.
If a case doesn't have these things then it is for scratch protection, minor bumps, and aesthetics only. Don't be fooled by empty marketing promises. It's easy for any case or SP to type some words on their JPEGs "super resilient, shock and explosion proof, 9H hardness" but that doesn't mean it's true or was ever actually tested. They just want your money.

Couldn't the thread have been titled, "First unlucky drop and no power.." or something like that. Ya just gotta throw in the dig of "bad quality LG" as if it's their fault you dropped the phone. I just don't get all these threads that don't really ask questions so much as to get eyeballs on a negative depiction of a very capable phone. And I'm just as guilty, I read this crap.

Me too Bobby. I keep feeding the trolls. I can't help it. I feel bad for them.

Thing is it was happening in the 6P threads too. I had one for about a week until I realized it was just too large a device for me and I was definitely going to drop and break it due to the size and slippery back. "Super lag on the 6P", "awful camera", speakers terrible" things like that just the same as here. Some of them just Sammy fans and some iPhone heads but they came out of the woodwork. And same here, "5X-Hugely disappointed" over 45k views. I mean who goes on just to post something like that instead of taking the time to return the device and research another one? It just makes me wonder motivation.
Back on topic, I dropped my phone once and not a scratch. It was on the carpet, does that count?

The only thing lacking quality in this situation is your grip.

Mine survived a 4 foot drop to concrete.
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I just don't get all these threads that don't really ask questions so much as to get eyeballs on a negative depiction of a very capable phone. And I'm just as guilty, I read this crap.
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Me too Bobby. I keep feeding the trolls. I can't help it.
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Some of them just Sammy fans and some iPhone heads but they came out of the woodwork. And same here, "5X-Hugely disappointed" over 45k views. I mean who goes on just to post something like that instead of taking the time to return the device and research another one? It just makes me wonder motivation.
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Me three.
I have to say -- I always try to assume the best in terms of motivation, and just chalk up someone's different experience to use case, app selection, etc. But my 5X is so fast, and multitasks so well, that I have to question motivation as well.

today LG called me ... said the mainboard damaged....
change a new mainboard is expensive, so I 'd better to buy a new one

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today LG called me ... said the mainboard damaged....
change a new mainboard is expensive, so I 'd better to buy a new one
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That, I'm sorry to hear. Somehow in this day and age they can make a phone almost indestructible. At least from a toilet drop and 5 feet onto cement.

my 5 fell into the grand canyon, I wonder if the screen broke. still rang but no one answered. sad. love my new 5X

[DISCUSSION] Jerry Rig Everything U12+ Durability test

Hey guys,
What do you think of this review.
I was chocked about the buttons that pop up so easily ?
Sauce :

If a phone has to be destroyed, I'd rather have it done for scientific purposes instead of just for views for some bald jabroni.

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If a phone has to be destroyed, I'd rather have it done for scientific purposes instead of just for views for some bald jabroni.
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Lol, jabroni.
As soon as I saw that I knew I had a yinzer on my hands. He's beyond a jabroni, he's a chooch jag off!
I agree no need to do such things, it's a colossal waste.

I actually enjoy his videos. It's not as if he sawing it in half or putting it in a microwave or other stupid things people do. He's actually testing the device. Is it a little more exteme then what normal usage might bring? Yea, but it's nothing way out and I appreciate seeing what exactly my phone can handle and all that, especially compared to other phones.
As for this video, I can't lie and say i wasn't disappointed with how the U12+ did. Especially with seeing how those buttons popped off. And as someone who tears down phones all the time, hearing him question it's water resistance was also a little disconcerting. It's not going to stop me from buying this phone but one of the reasons I like HTC phones are because of the build quality. But seeing this do worse than how other phones faired and hearing his concerns did disappoint me.
And I wouldn't jump all over this guy for what he said about the phone. His videos aren't necessarily pure opinion. While he does give some opinions on how he think a phone will fare in certain conditions, it's all based on his testing and how the phone itself handled it and what he finds in his tear downs. That's all. If you got the U12+ and enjoy, even love it and think it's the best phone ever, then that's all that matters. Don't get too worked up over what others say.

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Lol, jabroni.
As soon as I saw that I knew I had a yinzer on my hands. He's beyond a jabroni, he's a chooch jag off!
I agree no need to do such things, it's a colossal waste.
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Ya got me n'at. That's my point though, if I'm going to want to see a tear down (which I do, because I want to see what sort of vibration system HTC has employed here), I'll wait for a proper, scientific one from iFixit (who doesn't have one as of yet).
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I actually enjoy his videos. It's not as if he sawing it in half or putting it in a microwave or other stupid things people do. He's actually testing the device. Is it a little more exteme then what normal usage might bring? Yea, but it's nothing way out and I appreciate seeing what exactly my phone can handle and all that, especially compared to other phones.
As for this video, I can't lie and say i wasn't disappointed with how the U12+ did. Especially with seeing how those buttons popped off. And as someone who tears down phones all the time, hearing him question it's water resistance was also a little disconcerting. It's not going to stop me from buying this phone but one of the reasons I like HTC phones are because of the build quality. But seeing this do worse than how other phones faired and hearing his concerns did disappoint me.
And I wouldn't jump all over this guy for what he said about the phone. His videos aren't necessarily pure opinion. While he does give some opinions on how he think a phone will fare in certain conditions, it's all based on his testing and how the phone itself handled it and what he finds in his tear downs. That's all. If you got the U12+ and enjoy, even love it and think it's the best phone ever, then that's all that matters. Don't get too worked up over what others say.
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My gripe comes from his methodology and the fact that there are some who are still waiting for their phones. Seeing one destroyed in a non-scientific matter irks me. (Though the screen scratch testing, I have to give props to.) I can't see any day to day use where my device would come into direct contact with open flame or a utility knife.

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Ya got me n'at. That's my point though, if I'm going to want to see a tear down (which I do, because I want to see what sort of vibration system HTC has employed here), I'll wait for a proper, scientific one from iFixit (who doesn't have one as of yet).
My gripe comes from his methodology and the fact that there are some who are still waiting for their phones. Seeing one destroyed in a non-scientific matter irks me. (Though the screen scratch testing, I have to give props to.) I can't see any day to day use where my device would come into direct contact with open flame or a utility knife.
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I still don't have mine yet. Supposed to come today, we'll see.
I'd like to see an in depth tear down too since I'm sure I'll probably break the back glass at some point. I'm in highway construction and I'm brutal to my phones.

OGhoul said:
Ya got me n'at. That's my point though, if I'm going to want to see a tear down (which I do, because I want to see what sort of vibration system HTC has employed here), I'll wait for a proper, scientific one from iFixit (who doesn't have one as of yet).
My gripe comes from his methodology and the fact that there are some who are still waiting for their phones. Seeing one destroyed in a non-scientific matter irks me. (Though the screen scratch testing, I have to give props to.) I can't see any day to day use where my device would come into direct contact with open flame or a utility knife.
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It is non-scientific, but he does this for all of the new releases. So it's interesting to see how all of the new flagships stack up to one another regarding durability. At least it did better than the U11+ though.

The teardown of the U12+:

I'm a big fan of HTC but I'm no apologist either. That was rough to watch. Things that would normally be so simple to replace on a phone are causing this phone to basically become a paperweight if damaged. At the price they're selling this at, all these "little" things become that much more bigger.

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The teardown of the U12+:
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Linear actuator confirmed!