My wife and I use our phones more for the smart phone functions, and maybe use 300-500 minutes, 500 texts a month. The ting mobile plans would save us $1000 a year, the problem is that you have to buy phones straight from them.
According to the Ting support, some of their customers have gotten around this problem by purchasing one of their cheap phones, and then cloning the ESN to their better sprint / verizon phone. Ting encourages this, but I need to figure out how to do it.
Any ideas? Thanks!
I tried to post the link to the ting support staff statement, but apparently I haven't posted on XDA enough yet. So to find the forum post, just highlight this (including the quotation marks) and google it:
"Is it possible to activate ex-Verizon or ex-Sprint smartphone on Ting?"
This is possible I'm sorry I don't have a how to but I'm here to give you some encouragement. This has been done on numerous different wireless carriers so if you figure out how it would be as simple as 1,2,3...
I think flashing to alternative carriers doesn't differ so if you look at the how to flash boost mobile or cricket here on xda and ask them ill link them to ya
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473141
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This is something i would like to know too been trying to find a way to get my GF att phone to work with Verizon but everything ive found says it cant be done because Verizon is CDMA and att is GSM and the 2 technologies arent compatible
Pretty sure you guys are going to get flamed for this discussion or worse.
Isn't messing with esn illegal?
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K3VlN said:
This is something i would like to know too been trying to find a way to get my GF att phone to work with Verizon but everything ive found says it cant be done because Verizon is CDMA and att is GSM and the 2 technologies arent compatible
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Yeah your not going to get anything working there two completly different radio frequecies there bud
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Pretty sure you guys are going to get flamed for this discussion or worse.
Isn't messing with esn illegal?
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Yes but this is flashing to an alternative carrier with an esn they have bought and paid for what your referring to is a ghost esn not esn swapping
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yeah thats what i gathered just trying to find out if there was a way to get around that with out taking the phone apart...i told her to just sell it on swappa i already rooted it so she should get a lil chunk of change for it
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Pretty sure you guys are going to get flamed for this discussion or worse.
Isn't messing with esn illegal?
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Really man... you haven't seen the threads on how to do this for boost, virgin, and cricket? Those threads have been here since before I was a member... you're just not allowed to go into significant detail about it... as long as nobody explains how to do the esn switch you all should be alright... (btw there are TONS of guides on how to do this.... its basically the same for every carrier with minor changes here and there...) not hard to do and takes less than 20 minutes once you get it down... also if you would rather metro pcs or have one in your area most of their stores have a rep there that will do this for you... just don't pay them until they get data working!!!!
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Yes but this is flashing to an alternative carrier with an esn they have bought and paid for what your referring to is a ghost esn not esn swapping
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Ah, OK. Thanks for the clarity. I've seen other folks threads get quite beaten up over that sort of thing.
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Should have no problem flashing the phone as long as both phones are cdma phones. Might be difficult getting mobile data and MMS working though. I am running an epic on virgin mobile and everything works except mms. I have gotten mms to send just can't receive it. As for the legality I made sure to zero out the esn on my old phone so both cant be active at same time. Might be a good idea to avoid the risk of being banned.
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Yes, a Sprint phone on Ting would be easy to do. In your case, the Epic 4G phone by Samsung is incredibly easy to change the ESN on. All Samsung phones are really... especially on Verizon as their SPC codes are 000000. The standard Samsung SPC code unlock password though should work on Sprint Samsung phones. Google around for it.
The problem with all of this though is that you'll have to purchase a Ting phone in the first place. Now maybe you could purchase the feature phone that they have available and use that ESN, but using hundreds of megabytes on an ESN that is supposed to be a feature phone might be suspect in Ting's system. I'm not sure they would care though, but you would stick out like a sore thumb. Buying one of their smart phones seems to defeat the purpose of doing this as you would be left with a unusable smartphone that is probably better than your Epic 4G in the first place. You could take your Epic 4G to Boost. I admit, Ting rocks especially for more than one phone on a plan, but Boost isn't bad.
Don't go to Virgin Mobile. It is the same network as Sprint and Boost, but getting the phone on VM is difficult. You need the A-logins and Passwords that are difficult to get if you don't know what you are doing. Also, VM seems to more actively police their network for this type of use and if you don't have everything exactly copied from the donor phone you'll be noticed. No one really is sure what all needs to be copied over and after about 3 months or so the phone is usually noticed. It is kinda a mystery. I noticed that a person above said he has a phone on VM from another carrier. Might want to inquire with him though he said that he had several phones so maybe the little use of the VM phone is enabling him to skirt under the radar.
For the person looking for AT&T on Verizon... as already mentioned... not possible. I would look into using Red Pocket for AT&T's MVNO. You could also go to Simple Mobile, but would not get 3G data.
Let me know of anyone else has any questions...
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Yes, a Sprint phone on Ting would be easy to do. In your case, the Epic 4G phone by Samsung is incredibly easy to change the ESN on. All Samsung phones are really... especially on Verizon as their SPC codes are 000000. The standard Samsung SPC code unlock password though should work on Sprint Samsung phones. Google around for it.
The problem with all of this though is that you'll have to purchase a Ting phone in the first place. Now maybe you could purchase the feature phone that they have available and use that ESN, but using hundreds of megabytes on an ESN that is supposed to be a feature phone might be suspect in Ting's system. I'm not sure they would care though, but you would stick out like a sore thumb. Buying one of their smart phones seems to defeat the purpose of doing this as you would be left with a unusable smartphone that is probably better than your Epic 4G in the first place. You could take your Epic 4G to Boost. I admit, Ting rocks especially for more than one phone on a plan, but Boost isn't bad.
Don't go to Virgin Mobile. It is the same network as Sprint and Boost, but getting the phone on VM is difficult. You need the A-logins and Passwords that are difficult to get if you don't know what you are doing. Also, VM seems to more actively police their network for this type of use and if you don't have everything exactly copied from the donor phone you'll be noticed. No one really is sure what all needs to be copied over and after about 3 months or so the phone is usually noticed. It is kinda a mystery. I noticed that a person above said he has a phone on VM from another carrier. Might want to inquire with him though he said that he had several phones so maybe the little use of the VM phone is enabling him to skirt under the radar.
For the person looking for AT&T on Verizon... as already mentioned... not possible. I would look into using Red Pocket for AT&T's MVNO. You could also go to Simple Mobile, but would not get 3G data.
Let me know of anyone else has any questions...
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Virgin Mobile isn't hard to do.. I wrote up the guide for us, the only ones having issues are the few who don't use the phone written on the guide, and many who do not bother reading the guide. I have heard boost is actually more tedious.
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I might be getting an EVO 4G as a warranty replacement for my hero and I live in Milwaukee, WI with no 4G service.
I need to know if anything on the evo goes out and says its a 4g phone other than imei/esn. If so what and can it be disabled or blocked?
Im sorry if this is way out of line. I just trying to gather information at this point.
Lol
As soon as you turn it on, Sprint makes sure you know it's 4G.
Sorry guys just had to ask.
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Ill be getting the phone from best buy as a black tie replacement if i break my Hero.
So ill get the phone unactivated and sprint wont know unless i tell them i got a new phone. I just need to know if the 4g radio can be completely disabled to make the phone look like a Hero (except for the imei/esn).
So IF some how i could "transplant" aforementioned numbers (is this possible? I don't think so) Sprint would think im still using a 3g phone like the hero...
There is no sense in paying a premium for something that I am not able to use.
If Milwaukee ever goes 4G I would like to undo and needed hacks/mods so that I can register for service at that time.
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not possible.
Methods of this kind are not allowed in these forums. Mods please close this thread.
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why?
There are multiple threads far more legally shady than this.
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why?
There are multiple threads far more legally shady than this.
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Lol, I was wondering the same thing.
nothing illegal about this thread, they just wont give u an EVO 4G as a warranty replacement, they will give you another hero.
the back cover says 4G, the bootscreen says 4G, the OS says 4G, what does it matter? If you dont have it you dont have it why do you need to hide it?
The premium charge is not because of 4G.
The charge is to remove the 5BG cap!
Enjoy the new plan of uncapped INTERNET on your phone! Cheers!
The premium charge is not because of 4G.
The charge is to remove the 5BG cap!
Enjoy the new plan of uncapped INTERNET on your phone! Cheers!
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AFAIK Data has never been capped
Not possible, the ESN is tied to the mainboard and its in sprints system.
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AFAIK Data has never been capped
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yes it has, read the small print every god damn cell phone providers have caps on their unlimited data plans sprints has 5 gb's. If you went over you limit with sprint in the past, they did not complain to no one uses them so they don't call to ***** at their few subscibers
I'm not concerned with the esn. I would only want to disabled the 4g part of the phone. I don't want it to phone home and say I'm an evolution 4g give me 4g.
Ill talk to my stores sprint Rep to see if there's any ligit way around this required $10 fee.
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Kdragon75 said:
I'm not concerned with the esn. I would only want to disabled the 4g part of the phone. I don't want it to phone home and say I'm an evolution 4g give me 4g.
Ill talk to my stores sprint Rep to see if there's any ligit way around this required $10 fee.
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Good luck. If you take a look around the forums though, you'll see there have been plenty of people trying to get around the fee, & as far as i know, no one has been successful. If it goes any differently, let us know!
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7 Posts and you're already policing the forums?
Someone asking if things are possible is very different than asking about changing an IMEI number.
Your IMEI number is how the carrier recognizes what phone you have. In theory... if you changed that to match your Hero's number then they'd think it was your hero. That is presuming you never turned on your 4G.
The only issue is that I believe it is illegal in the US to spoof your IMEI number. This is a measure taken to allow carriers to block stolen phones from their networks. Makes sense. More info on IMEI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mobile_Equipment_Identity
So sorry, you're going to be out of luck.
^^ And that's how you answer an OP's question, stay legal, and avoid being a ****.
What the possibility of flashing an epic to work properly on vz? I see it can be done on cricket....I'm not worried about Verizon having the meid in the system....anyone out there do this? Thanks
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What the possibility of flashing an epic to work properly on vz? I see it can be done on cricket....I'm not worried about Verizon having the meid in the system....anyone out there do this? Thanks
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Why is it you're not worried about Verizon having the MEID in their system? That is all you should be worried about. If it is not in their system, they will not allow the device on their network.
I can have it added.....so back to my original question.......can it be done??
I'm sure there's a way, you just won't have 4g. May need msl. Just use getprop to get it
Of course its Possible i have did for 2 Carriers in India why not Verizon, get your MEID added and be in touch be me.
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I can have it added.....so back to my original question.......can it be done??
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If you can have it added then I think you're going to have to find out through trial and error, as not many have that kind of access. Let us know how it goes.
if i could do it id take my epic to verizon how do i do it!
churro7 said:
if i could do it id take my epic to verizon how do i do it!
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Make a donation to suzook to get added to the system, lol.
As far as I know, I remember some people said they could call in and say they were an Alltel orphan - but since it's been a while since the merger I doubt that still works.
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i have it on vz network, talk and text work fine, but data is a no go, i have tried the same methods for cricket...but stillno go. im hoping someone can point me in the right direction
Verizon won't stop you from using a Sprint phone, but they won't help you, either. Assuming the software radio itself isn't the problem, you're basically going to have to wait until there are AOSP kernel and Android builds for both the Epic and Fascinate, then figure out how they differ and hack an Epic build to incorporate the changes in the Fascinate build. Then copy over Verizon's own apps for things like voicemail.
If you need a new radio, all bets are off. AFAIK, radio firmware signed with Verizon's key won't install on a phone expecting Sprint's cert, and vice-versa. Unlike Android itself, the radio firmware is very, very encryption-locked, because it's basically impossible to get a phone with software radio past the FCC if it's not (unless you're only planning to sell it to licensed ham radio operators, and have the means to enforce it). I'm not sure whether it was possible to reflash Sprint WinMo phones to work on Verizon because the radios used the same firmware, because the radio firmware was signed by HTC in both cases, or because someone found a way to defeat the protection.
You'll probably have better luck if you try to get 1xRTT working before EVDO. I believe there's a small difference between the way Sprint and Verizon's EVDO works (one that's entirely due to software and not insurmountable, but might be the reason why Sprint phones doing data roaming on Verizon seem to be limited to 1xRTT, assuming it's not just a business decision by Verizon and/or Sprint to allow Sprint users to only roam at 1xRTT.
Has anyone been able to solve this? I have my epic for sale or trade for a verizon phone with no offers... So I'm curious if I can just take it to verizon with me.. since its bad ass..
I fixed the data not working on an epic flashed to cricket by changing the msl to 000000 and dialing *228 so maybe try that. If you can manage to find a cool vzw tech rep get them to go into switch view in acss, go to the data section and uncheck the box that requires validated shared secret data for data use. I would help you myself but I no longer work there. Directv has better benefits I wish you the best of luck bro.
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lafronz said:
I fixed the data not working on an epic flashed to cricket by changing the msl to 000000 and dialing *228 so maybe try that. If you can manage to find a cool vzw tech rep get them to go into switch view in acss, go to the data section and uncheck the box that requires validated shared secret data for data use. I would help you myself but I no longer work there. Directv has better benefits I wish you the best of luck bro.
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if someone has a phone active already, they can extract the shared secret and write it to the Epic.
No radio firmware or ROM will make it work or not work.
lots of sprint phones are active on PagePlus. They will activate almost any CDMA device. PagePlus is a vzw MVNO.
I've said enough.. any more might be breaking the rules
I'm tryin to figure out how to do the whole entire thing from the beginning.
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I'm tryin to figure out how to do the whole entire thing from the beginning.
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we're not allowed to discuss that here. it's against XDA rules.
I'm sure there are many here that could give you a description of what needs done via PM or something, but we can't discuss it in the open forum.
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we're not allowed to discuss that here. it's against XDA rules.
I'm sure there are many here that could give you a description of what needs done via PM or something, but we can't discuss it in the open forum.
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It suddenly became against the rules to discuss using phones on different carriers? This is no different from discussing bringing a T-Mobile phone to AT&T and making things work -.- Sure there's no SIM card in this discussion and the technology is different, but that's it.
It is not against the rules. Only making a phone with a bad esn work is.
But this is a question and belongs in Q&A
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What the possibility of flashing an epic to work properly on vz? I see it can be done on cricket....I'm not worried about Verizon having the meid in the system....anyone out there do this? Thanks
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but what I've done to make it works for our carrier in Indonesia was back to EC05 bml stock rom then googling about cdma workshop & qpstn then applied them to your epic with Verizon parameters
I am buying a boostmobile configured Epic Touch4G, how do I restore it back to Sprint's network other then calling Sprint to configure the ESN to be setup on my line?
Thanks.
They might have stolen it which is why its on boost so if u try the esn will come back as bad...
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As mentioned don't buy it, I guarantee it has a bad esn.
That said, it is one of the easiest phone do a repair on. Google for epic 4g default 16 digit password. You will need a donor phone that is activated on sprint. If your donor phone is old enough you maybe able to get all your programming info from ##data#. If not, use QPST copy the info. Your HA AAA password maybe a pain to get. Googling will tell you how to get that too.
It is very doable. I have my E4GT on my OG Sero plan.
Before you decide to buy or not, check the ESN.
You can check the ESN online at http://www.checkesnfree.com or call it in to Sprint C.S.
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The ESN is clean, but how do I restore it exactly to be on Sprint again? Any guides?
You aren't cloning so it should be easy. I would think that the settings are pretty close already. Activate from the website and follow the programming direction. That should get you going.
If not then if you have another sprint phone. Dial ##data# on both phones and just start copying the info from the donor to e4gt. You will need the msl/Spc code to enter the data on the e4gt. If you have the msl for the donor phone enter it too, it will show more info.
Forgot, makes sure the Meid in settings/ about phone are the same as under the battery. If not, its very easily fixed.
There's a little more to it then that. If you can't get your original AAA password (nv item 1192) then you will need a donor phone. Try a ##786# reset or flashing a new radio to hopefully reset your nv items. Without the AAA password, you will not be able to authenticate your 3g and will be stuck in 1x
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How do set an Epic 4g Touch up for boost or any other pre pay?
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How do set an Epic 4g Touch up for boost or any other pre pay?
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I thought that was the purpose of this thread but no one has said anything.
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Your not allowed to talk about flashing over to boost on here.
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Was curious why one would have had one on a boost account
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I thought that was the purpose of this thread but no one has said anything.
Sent from the future.
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Funny, I read the first post as saying he wants to put a previously boost converted E4GT back on Sprint. If you want to go the other way, google is your friend. You will have to piece the process together by reading threads for different phones. Horwardsforums and mobile-files.us may prove helpful. Keep in mind many forums are purging info regarding esn repairs for fear of legal action, so that aspect maybe a little tougher to find but it is out there.
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Funny, I read the first post as saying he wants to put a previously boost converted E4GT back on Sprint. If you want to go the other way, google is your friend. You will have to piece the process together by reading threads for different phones. Horwardsforums and mobile-files.us may prove helpful. Keep in mind many forums are purging info regarding esn repairs for fear of legal action, so that aspect maybe a little tougher to find but it is out there.
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Understood. I wasn't aware that it was illegal. I was under the impression that it was like flashing to MetroPCS. Thanks for clearing things up
I have heard of people using a evo on verizon i been eyeing the droid razr so if possible i wanna flash it to sprint. I called a store they said no but they prolly just want me to spend money on a new phone. So is it possible?
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AFAIK, this is impossible because Sprint will not activate a phone from outside their network.
I believe the CDMA frequencies are incompatible, but don't quote me on that.
Are you sure the Evos are in Verizon? I've heard of them on Cricket and other smaller carriers that use the Sprint network, but not Verizon.
I do not believe this is possible due to Sprint being a jerk. You COULD buy the Droid Razr unlocked and plead with a Sprint rep, but I would say you have next to no chance of getting them to activate it for you. Sprint will only activate a phone that has an ESN number that is in their database, they COULD activate it, but that is against their TOS and no rep even has the power to do it for you, you would have to practically get Dan Hesse on the phone to do it
My advice would be to wait a little bit (unless your current phone is on the fritz and you need a new one now, and in that case, go with the Epic 4G Touch, I love mine!!) and see what is out there, the Galaxy Nexus MAY or MAY NOT come to Sprint, but I would expect at least 2 or 3 top of the line Android devices by the end of Q1 2012...... Ultimately the choice is up to you... Best of luck!!
It is being done you have to unlock the phone so the freg can be changed to work on a different carrier. You do not tell what type of phone u just give the ESN number after you hack the hardware info. You would be surprised how often this is being done. Most of your local cell phone providers have the software to make this happen and when i mean your local cell phone provider. I am talking about the ones that offer service cheap or have the phone in the store that you can buy. the mom and pops.
I have to "lol" at some of the replies. Sprint and Verizon use the same cdma frequencies, 800mhz/1900mhz. Why do you think Sprint phones can voice and data roam on VZW?
Anyway, what the OP wants to do is achievable via *wink* *wink* methods, and it's not easily done anyway but possible.
Google is your friend.
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I thought there was a law against them not allowing this?
When I was with T Mobile (GSM) they were required by federal to give you the subsidy unlock code and could not deny the usage of any other GSM phone on their network so long as the IMEI wasn't blacklisted for being stolen/lost. I could call AT&T to unlock one of their phones to use on T Mobile - obviously data was a nogo because of the AWS band.
So there's nothing like that for CDMA carriers?
Like what newalker91, none Sprint ESN will not work. But any Verizon phone will work on Sprint. You will have to do the same thing as they are doing to the EVO's.
Look for a broken or older Android phone with a good ESN.
huh? Google it!
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For one, the 3G frequencies on Sprint are locked out to phones not registered in the ESN database and the phone will NOT work on Sprint's network. Calling Sprint a jerk for this is ridiculous and shows how little research has been done by the complainant.
For two, this has nothing to do with the Epic 4G Touch, therefore this thread is being reported as spam/incorrect section.
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If that's the case, how can we load certain PRL's and roam on Verizon's network using 3G? Or is roaming a different story? It would seem we're not exactly "lock out" due to the ESN not being registered, maybe mildly restricted?
There seems to be some major gaps in what you said but I could be wrong, care to elaborate?
As far as reporting this thread, that's a douchey move. The OP has a legitimate question, it just seems people have heard different *facts* about the topic so there's a few different answers. That's no reason to report the thread and try to have it deleted - obviously there's an information issue on this subject that needs to be resolved. Even more of a reason to keep this thread open.
CDMA phones are essentially unlocked. You can get your SPC/MSL, for my Vogue and Mogul, I called sprint ant they gave the MSL even though at the time I was under contract. Now I just use CDMAWS. Everyone knows Verizon's MSL code, 000000. With your msl you can change configurations to your hearts content, provided you have the software.
The problem is that Verizon and Sprint will not activate a meid/esn that is not in their system. Yes they are both protecting their interests by making sure you live up to your agreement but I also think they do not want to take the to time trouble shoot every stinking phone that some yahoo wants to put on their network. Keep in mind every phone they release has been tested and configured to work on their network, they don't some strange phone coming from a Korean/Chinese CDMA network with who knows what settings configured on their network. There are a ton of configuration options that other carriers can use. Thankfully Verizon and Sprint keep the configs on the simple side.
Getting a E4GT on Verizon/MetroPC/Virgin/Boost is a piece of cake. Its one of the easiest phones to do. Many HTC phone are harder to do but can be done. LGs look simple but the Optimus seems to require using LGNPST to unlock some entries before you can get changes to stick. I was using a Droid Incrdible on my Sero plan for 6 months before I changed phones. Going in to details on how is discouraged and I have been warned against doing so by a mod.
rruss said:
I have heard of people using a evo on verizon i been eyeing the droid razr so if possible i wanna flash it to sprint. I called a store they said no but they prolly just want me to spend money on a new phone. So is it possible?
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Yes, it's possible. When I worked at Sprint I had a customer come in with an Evo on Verizon (he later came back to Sprint). You take a Verizon smartphone and swap ESN's with the phone you want to put on. It's not illegal if you swap them, and it's not like anyone's going to know, because on their system, it'll show up as the other phone, not what you're actually using. It's not a straight-forward process but if you can follow directions it's not too hard.
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Yes, it's possible. When I worked at Sprint I had a customer come in with an Evo on Verizon (he later came back to Sprint). You take a Verizon smartphone and swap ESN's with the phone you want to put on. It's not illegal if you swap them, and it's not like anyone's going to know, because on their system, it'll show up as the other phone, not what you're actually using. It's not a straight-forward process but if you can follow directions it's not too hard.
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So If I were to call sprint and Had a droid razr that I want to use and I'm currently using a palm pre I Just give them my pre esn and they will use that to activate it? How is this possible because doesn't each phone have a specific ESN that allows that specific phone to be activated?
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So If I were to call sprint and Had a droid razr that I want to use and I'm currently using a palm pre I Just give them my pre esn and they will use that to activate it? How is this possible because doesn't each phone have a specific ESN that allows that specific phone to be activated?
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It's not that simple. You have to use programs to swap the ESNs. As in take the ESN from the Pre and put it on the Droid Razr. And then you give them the Pre ESN (which is really the Droid Razr) and it'll work on Sprint. You'll still need to change some stuff like the APN/MMS settings, among other things, but out of the box, it should make calls/SMS texts.
A little bit of a downer...
Theres only one problem with that... Droid Razr uses a Sim card for network identification. I know its CDMA, but all LTE phones on Verizon require a sim card, also it has no ESN number. So, until Sprint gets LTE, then no Razr on Sprint, unless someone hacks the sim card to have an ESN number (which I have seen with the HTC ThunderBolt), but if Sprint does get LTE, then you have to change the IMEI number with a 4G LTE phone on Sprints Network, and even then, you still only get Sprint 3G, unless they plan to use the same bands as Verizon, but good luck trying to get it on Sprint!
ok here's the breakdown.. because 90% of the info in here isnt correct. few guys said some worthwhile stuff tho.. so everyone dont hate
the droid razr isnt getting on sprint... youre not editing the moto meid. not possible. there are some scripts out there that edit the moto meid on bootup but its buggy and does not work on all motos. unless youre super mobile hacker.. youre not touching this method.
other phones... samsungs/htc/lg... as gedster314 said... can all be easily edited. each individual phone may have its quirks but in general.. they all generally use the same methods to edit meid/3g profiles.
now... as for what Jayjaymac said above about it not being able to work without a sim card. generally this is correct.. when doing everything by the book. but you can remove the sim card and rewrite the serial built into the phone and rewrite it as the meid.. and then youre on cricket/metro/boost etc. now again... youre not editing the moto meid... but its because of how moto locks down their phones.. NOT because of the lte sim. the samsung charge has a weird chipset so no one has interfaced it with QPST yet.. so no meid change there either. the htc thunderbolt can easily be put on any cdma network.. that has a sim. any htc device wouldnt be a problem putting on other networks... vzw gnex would work as well.
tl;dr
the moto cant be done... but not for the reasons people specified in this thread. if u wanna edit meid's.. dont ever choose moto.
Yes, like auto said, the MEID was created as an ESN replacement. You cannot "clone" and MEID to another device to fool Sprint anymore. Old ESN devices could be done that way, but that is no longer the case with MEID
Korey_Nicholson said:
Yes, like auto said, the MEID was created as an ESN replacement. You cannot "clone" and MEID to another device to fool Sprint anymore. Old ESN devices could be done that way, but that is no longer the case with MEID
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i didnt say that
you can certainly edit meid's on phones still. any htc device, 99% of samsung devices, 90% of lg devices... all editable. you can even force meid phones back to use esn-only if you must.
the issue in this thread is that the OP wanted to edit the motorola droid razr, but you are unable to edit it due to how motorola locks their phones down.
and to everyone else reading this thread.. no this thread will NOT be used for directions on how to do any of this. we're merely discussing whether something is technically possible or not.
autoprime said:
i didnt say that
you can certainly edit meid's on phones still. any htc device, 99% of samsung devices, 90% of lg devices... all editable. you can even force meid phones back to use esn-only if you must.
the issue in this thread is that the OP wanted to edit the motorola droid razr, but you are unable to edit it due to how motorola locks their phones down.
and to everyone else reading this thread.. no this thread will NOT be used for directions on how to do any of this. we're merely discussing whether something is technically possible or not.
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Ahh misunderstood.
autoprime said:
you can certainly edit meid's on phones still. any htc device, 99% of samsung devices, 90% of lg devices...
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I can Vouch
check this out
or this or this or this if your lazy
rruss said:
I have heard of people using a evo on verizon i been eyeing the droid razr so if possible i wanna flash it to sprint. I called a store they said no but they prolly just want me to spend money on a new phone. So is it possible?
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http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/estore/certifieddevice/cd
Why didn't you just reply to the thread this was in?
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Hi guys, I'm about to cancel my Sprint account and root the evo to boost, the incognito/rant are no longer on sale except on eBay. Which of the newer cheapest phone from Boost I can use as a donor???? I am afraid to get a used one from eBay thinking it might not work. Thanks in advance.
SilverTigre2010 said:
Hi guys, I'm about to cancel my Sprint account and root the evo to boost, the incognito/rant are no longer on sale except on eBay. Which of the newer cheapest phone from Boost I can use as a donor???? I am afraid to get a used one from eBay thinking it might not work. Thanks in advance.
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I've gotten mine, always used incognito, from craigslist. Doesn't matter what condition the phone is in as long as it powers up and can connect the usb port. I've done it with the Evo and the E3D. I want to try one of the Galaxy phones next but haven't gotten my hands on one. Good luck.
I've done two now with the incognito and their both working fine.
Technically you could use any 3g phone, it just may be harder to get all the info you need since most of the directions are for those 2...
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Thanks guys, so I won't matter if the incognito has been used as a donor before?? does it has to be an incognito from Boost or any other carries who might have sold it.:good:
It has to be from boost. And it can ONLY be used as a donor once at a time.
Meaning, say a buddy uses it to flash his evo. If he's still using it, you can't.
So if your buying one, make sure its a clean esn and activatible.
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Thanks to all, I think I'm ready now. I did search CL and found a couple near where I am, just need to make sure they're ok. Thanks again
SilverTigre2010 said:
Thanks guys, so I won't matter if the incognito has been used as a donor before?? does it has to be an incognito from Boost or any other carries who might have sold it.:good:
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Just change the phone number on the Incognito it will assign new HA/AAA information.
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Just change the phone number on the Incognito it will assign new HA/AAA information.
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But that doesn't matter. When you clone the info to a new phone, its always going to use the same unique numbers. The HA/AAA are only the passwords needed to access the information.
The esn/meid are unique and only 1 phone has those numbers. Its like a network mac address.
So no, you still can only use a phone once at a time. Otherwise, I could sell just the numbers off my phone all day long.
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I'm not talking about multiple people using the same information.
I'm talking about generating new HA/AAA information so at least he would know there's no way for some else to have it like the guy he bought it from.
By activating the phone you know if its in use or not.
He wouldn't be able to even activate the phone if someone is even using the MEID or ESN.
Can't you just call boost with your evo's ESN and they'll put it on their network? No need for a donor if so.
Some people claim they have but their official policy is against it, most have said they've been denied and I haven't even tried.
They can tell what ESN is coming from where Boost and Sprint ESNs are not considered the same in their systems.
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Can't you just call boost with your evo's ESN and they'll put it on their network? No need for a donor if so.
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To my understanding after reading a few blogs is that you can't do that, it will seem doable because is basically the same network(Sprint) but aparently is not possible therefore the need to flash.
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Just to update there are some other phones that can be use see this.
I was able to get a brand new incognito from a Sprint Store in VA, I spoke to one of the managers and they're getting rid off all the old boost mobile phones, I got mine for less than $30 they can even go lower If you buy in bulk, I thought about buying them(they had about 20) and reselling them on CL but didn't do it(not enough cash).
Anyway I completed the flash and now I am using my 4G Evo with boost, I am down to $25/month, I got the Pay as you go plan $.50/day unlimited web + $0.20/minute call. Works great for me since I don't use the phone to make calls, mostly text and web. Running ICS ROM of course with no 4G, I was paying about $93/month with Sprint.