If you've been waiting to see if your 'hood would be next up for Sprint to bless with a shiny new*LTE networkwe've got some potentially good news: by mid-2012 both Kansas City (regardless of what side of the Kansas / Missouri border you happen to be on) and Baltimore will be online. Those two cities will bring the total number of Sprint LTE markets to six, as they join the previously announced Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and Atlanta. The carrier and CEO Dan Hesse refused to be any more specific about a launch date on today's earnings call, though, we can tell you the service should be launching alongside the*Galaxy Nexus,LG Viper*and a Sierra Wireless mobile hotspot capable of connecting via CDMA, WiMAX and LTE. Check out the PR after the break for more details.Show full PR textBaltimore and Kansas City Sprint Customers to Benefit from 4G LTE and 3G Enhancements in 2012Sprint adds to the list of cities to benefit from new and improved network technology by mid-year
Source: http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...markets/&category=classic&icid=eng_latest_art
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I'm excited since I live in Overland Park. That being said, I won't be enjoying the LTE too much since I have this phone. Guess I'll start saving now.
Oooooo yea!! Will get LTE at my dads business when i go to work for him
I think they should put lte networks into markets that dont have wimax yet. Hint hint Green Bay WI!
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I was a bit shocked KC wasn't announced from the start. I knew or wouldn't take long. I bet they already have lte in Overland Park so they could test the new phones. Plus, the improved cdma will be great. I have horrible signal in my neighborhood(Briarcliff). The airrave helps a lot. Tye funny thing is they mentioned KU vs MU in the press release even though we all know that the chances of playing anymore are slim. Anyways, it is a pointless rivalry. KU sucks just like Johnson County and the rest of those cake eaters. Lol
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Im in independence, mo. and my signal, 4g has always been excellent...so i hope its the same with LTE ...there r perks living close to sprint headquarters
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Baltimore fist pump .......it seems they are lighting the switch to city's that have wimax already.
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I was told a while back it was kind of going to rollout in reverse meaning markets that don't have 4g would get the LTE first then the markets with WiMax would follow. ...in New Jersey now and the 3g has been great here. I haven't tested 4g much since I have Fios in the house..edit..I would imagine the major cities would have to follow very soon after because they need that advertising money...meaning L.A. and New York probably wont be far behind. Jersey represent!
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I was told a while back it was kind of going to rollout in reverse meaning markets that don't have 4g would get the LTE first then the markets with WiMax would follow. ...in New Jersey now and the 3g has been great here. I haven't tested 4g much since I have Fios in the house..edit..I would imagine the major cities would have to follow very soon after because they need that advertising money...meaning L.A. and New York probably wont be far behind. Jersey represent!
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When Hess anounced lte first like 5 months ago when they said that they would be going to lte they would start with areas that never got wimax and what do you know sprint fuxing lies again .... no phoenix on the list ...... but all cities with wimax .... stupid back asswards sprint ...you would think when they were testing lte it was phoenix they tested in with clear ....but don't announce it as one of their first cities ...6th largest in nation always screwed
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I was told a while back it was kind of going to rollout in reverse meaning markets that don't have 4g would get the LTE first then the markets with WiMax would follow. ...in New Jersey now and the 3g has been great here. I haven't tested 4g much since I have Fios in the house..edit..I would imagine the major cities would have to follow very soon after because they need that advertising money...meaning L.A. and New York probably wont be far behind. Jersey represent!
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there's a network vision site in north jersey right now. just googled it... Branchburg, NJ. about an hour drive for me.. but i've been considering making the drive to test it.
I'm fortunate to be in an area where sprint has great coverage, and speeds are really good. I'm usually getting bandwidth test speeds of over 1 mb/s, and sometimes even crest the 2 mb/s mark in the evenings. I rarely use 4G, one because my desk is on the other side of the building from the tower, so the signal barely makes it to my desk, and at home, it isn't all that great, either. I'll be curious to see if my data speeds improve on 3G once the NV initiative hits my neck of the woods. I'm also one of the first metros listed to get LTE when it comes out, but will wait to get a compatiable device until the Galaxy Nexus hits CL/Ebay for a decent discount.
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What is the likely hood of wimax coverage areas expanding.....I work one town away and can connect no problem there.....also one town over in another direction is fine.....but sitting in my house I can barely connect....and that's after some tweaks using my MSL...
I guess im wondering if coverage areas actually begin to expand or if coverage in my house is a long way away......I live about half an hour or so north of Boston if that helps....
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Bump....anyone know?
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My brother works for Clearwire. The company rolling out Wimax for Sprint. Sprint actually owns 51% of Clearwire.
At the moment, Clearwire is not doing as well as they thought they would. But, they are still building. He (my bro), is a contractor who does what they call "site acquisition". This means they ask him to find land, or leases so that they can build a tower.
The short answer is yes, Clear/Sprint continue to expand their Wimax network. The caveat is that the speed at which this is done, depends on if and when Sprints financials can get into the black.
The bottom line is that Sprint has to keep rolling it out. Just like 3G years ago, it will eventually be widely available on all carriers. But like 3G, the carriers with the most money will probably spread their 4g network the fastest.
Very good. With this new 4G race you can bet Sprint will start putting it's coverage in high gear
Thanks for the info...I can't wait till i can use it inside my house!
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I was in a sprint store and the woman turned off my 4g switch and told me to not use it because we don't have 4g in my city. She said we only have 3g (crappy towers at that). Is it possible only larger cities have 4g? I've even attempted to find maps of where the 3g towers were in my city to see if I could test the connectivity but there's nothing offered. I'm honestly not sure what to do.
Check out sprint.com they have a map that overlays all there locations with 3g and 4g and what not. short answer to your question is yes. 4g is pretty limited to major US cities and even then not the whole cities. Over time they should get more coverage but we'll see how switching to lte over WiMax plays out.
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I live in the US - Raleigh NC area, they have pretty decent coverage here. But seeing as I just got my phone and Sprint about 3 weeks ago I can't talk about travel at a distance. Stormglove is right, check out sprints web site.
There are like 3 towers with wimax in the whole state of Arizona but Phoenix is the 5th largest city in the nation... Go figure
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I live in Louisville, KY. Apparently there are like 2 WiMax towers here. Connection is pretty poor though, even within range of WiMax I can get repeated connects and disconnects.
I dont get how they can even advertise 4g for Sprint. The amount of towers they currently have deployed probably dont even cover 10% of the usa i bet. Theres 1 tower in my state i beleive and its not even on the sqme island as me :-( they should advertise it as such.. "sprint, slow ass 3g and 4g thats probably not even within distance of a IBM missel" cause there 4g is a fricken joke
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I get great 4g in NYC 5MB/sec (in my house which is practically a dead zone for ALL phones >_>{LUCKY ME!!!!}) and 10MB/sec+ outside my house. hopefully LTE shows better results for the rest of sprint users. =(
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There are like 3 towers with wimax in the whole state of Arizona but Phoenix is the 5th largest city in the nation... Go figure
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Us Mexicans can't build there.. we are not allowed in Arizona... duh!
I would just test it. I live in Prescott, Arizona, and according to sprint.com there isn't a 4g tower for miles and miles. However, on average I get 3 bars of 4g n a connection speed of about 12 mbps. So I would just flip it on every now and then and see
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Well in the case of when i was in Gurnee Ill around thanksgiving they actually lost 4g.
Thanksgiving 2010 they had 4g while i was down there, Thanksgiving 2011 they no longer had 4g the week i was down there...
Strange...
i get 4g in philadelphia... although as i go about town i'd say reception is spotty at best. if i'm in a good spot 4g blazes. if i'm in a car or certain areas, it's nil.
on another note, i think wimax is more or less dead on the water? there will be no more or few towers invested in by sprint since they want to be on lte by 2013. i could be recalling this info inaccurately; also since they piggyback off clear's wimax that doesn't mean clear will cease expanding their market - but i'm not sure about any of this, so take this post as speculation.
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I would just test it. I live in Prescott, Arizona, and according to sprint.com there isn't a 4g tower for miles and miles. However, on average I get 3 bars of 4g n a connection speed of about 12 mbps. So I would just flip it on every now and then and see
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I love that area and try to get up to oak creek canyon at least 3 or 4 times a year in summer
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Just go to clear.com and check the coverage map to see tower locations for your area since sprint is using them for their 4g coverage
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Just go to clear.com and check the coverage map to see tower locations for your area since sprint is using them for their 4g coverage
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I wonder how accurate that map is, as i supposedly have 4g.
But its sparatic at best...
Although i suppose sparatic means coverage in that area.
I would consider sprint's 4g more limited in market area's meaning most major markets but not all. Im just outside nashville, tn (not a major market) and its here & have been since june of 2010 but coverage is more spotty than anything. I work in a all glass building and its up and down like a roller coaster trying to get it to stay connected vs switching to 3g. In my home it wont even connect to 4g but not a big deal to me. Personally i would have done some research to see which area's its in b/c paying $10 for premium data isnt quite getting your money's worth in a non 4g area.
To the comment about not covering more than 10 percent of the country. It is probably a lot less than that even. But, since 80 percent of our country lives in urban environments it doesn't matter.
You won't get any type of 4G when your cruising down I-70 in BFE. But, it works fine in St. Louis or Kansas City. Even on a bigger carrier you have a similar problem.
Summer is here and so is the first wave of Sprint LTE markets. Today, CEO, Dan Hesse, announced that Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, Kansas City and San Antonio will have LTE launched on July 15th. Additional market launches in 2012 will be announced later this year. By the end of 2013, we expect to have largely completed the build out of the 4G LTE nationwide network covering 250 million people across the United States.
As part of the Sprint’s Network Vision promise, we are building an all-new, nationwide 3G and 4G LTE network. This means that whether you are using a smartphone to share a video or to check the Web, Sprint 4G LTE will make it faster. In addition to LTE, the new network provides significant enhancements to Sprint 3G service. You can expect to experience better signal strength, less dropped/blocked calls, faster data speeds, expanded coverage and better overall performance as the improvements roll out across the country.
“While other carriers are simply rolling out their version of a 4G LTE network, we are rolling out an all-new network that will also significantly improve the 3G and voice experience over time – at no extra charge to the customer,” said Hesse.
Source:http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...network-vision-sprint-4glte-arrives-july-15th
Where is NYC??!!
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Where is NYC??!!
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Amen brother!
Thought baltimore was in 1st wave?
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Anyone hear any rumors for the Chicago area?
Also, will this enable data AND voice at the same time on LTE? How about on 3G?
I'm in Houston so I'm happy. I just hope I get this sgs3 device by then.
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Come on over 3 million people in los Angeles lol
Sprints network needs a lot of work I hope these upgrades end up being worth the wait. The last thing the US market needs is something bad happening to Sprint. T-Mobile is already kind of iffy.
As usual, for folks in other cities the best informed speculation about future rollouts is to be found at S4GRU.
What the hell!! Stillwater, Oklahoma has nearly 50,000 people! Why would we not be first to get LTE? This is a bad move by Sprint. I know at LEAST a couple people that might switch carriers because of this, so they'll be out 10's of dollars. You should all demand Stillwater be fist on the list. It's important to you.
I'm done with Sprint. Way too little, way too late. The second my Verizon S3 arrives, i'm porting my number over and buying out the rest of my Sprint contract. It's worth it to me to switch to a carrier that has.. oh let's see... data and voice! Not to mention already having an LTE network in place already and growing all the time.
I am confused why people are upset, they announced these cities months ago. How is this such a surprise. I live in Baltimore we where added to the first round, but won't be lit up on july 15th. My 3g is pretty good in Baltimore so i can wait a month or two.
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What the hell!! Stillwater, Oklahoma has nearly 50,000 people! Why would we not be first to get LTE? This is a bad move by Sprint. I know at LEAST a couple people that might switch carriers because of this, so they'll be out 10's of dollars. You should all demand Stillwater be fist on the list. It's important to you.
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Going to switch to sprint, I can cancel my contract with tmobile right? If it hasn't been 14days?
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well for the prices that Verizon charges, I would hope they offered a better service
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Come on over 3 million people in los Angeles lol
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We have over 8 million in NYC and we still got nothing to show for it, but i'm glad KC and San Antonio are taken care of first.
The Sprint LTE rollout schedule is being tracked here. They plan to cover over 130M population with LTE by end of this year and the entire Sprint footprint by 2013. Then they'll start rolling out LTE on 800Mhz which will significantly increase coverage.
Cities...
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/212-network-visionlte-deployment-running-list/
Here's the Network Vision plan (second half of document)...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6m5k0tjsegmms75/Sprint Vision.PDF
Hows your LTE? I have yet to get a signal. I live in Astoria and my EVO3D always got 2-3 bars of 4G.. I travel to Clinton Hill for work and still get nothing
I never get any 4G anywhere in NYC, whether it be Astoria or Midtown. The only time I've ever gotten 4G service from sprint was when I was visiting someone in New Hampshire. It surprised the hell out of me, but it didn't even last long anyway. Sprint's 4G sucks.
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Hows your LTE? I have yet to get a signal. I live in Astoria and my EVO3D always got 2-3 bars of 4G.. I travel to Clinton Hill for work and still get nothing
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Your EVO 3D is a WiMax phone and the Lg is a LTE phone.
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I never get any 4G anywhere in NYC, whether it be Astoria or Midtown. The only time I've ever gotten 4G service from sprint was when I was visiting someone in New Hampshire. It surprised the hell out of me, but it didn't even last long anyway. Sprint's 4G sucks.
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This whole Thread seems confusing to me.
Sprint doesn't have any 4g LTE anywhere in New Hampshire. Only Wimax in the southern part of the state like Salem or Nashua. Trust me I know I live in New Hampshire. And why would you say Sprint's 4G sucks if you never had it?
Sprint 4g is awesome I've seen people people get almost 25mbps, you can say the coverage sucks because its only in a few cities but the speed is great.
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There's no LTE in NYC. I heard some people get some LTE but that is mostly just sprint testing their network.
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There is no 4G LTE in NYC, except in the Bronx.
However, when I am visiting my parents in the bronx, it's amazing and usually get at least 26mbps
Hi. There is LTE in NYC. But it is very spotty. There us a very small area in Manhattan midtown around 5th ave and 45th. Then along yh henry Hudson parkway from 86 to 120.
The Bronx is part of NYC as NYC has 5 boroughs and must of the LTE coverage can be found there. I would say 60% of the Bronx has it.
Brooklyn and queens a little in the crown heights and Jamaica sections
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Right. so stuck with 3G for the foreseeable future
NO 4g Yet in NYC and im here daily
Just left NYC... 0 LTE. Im in a suburb of Atlanta and have excellent LTE. Go figure.
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This whole Thread seems confusing to me.
Sprint doesn't have any 4g LTE anywhere in New Hampshire. Only Wimax in the southern part of the state like Salem or Nashua. Trust me I know I live in New Hampshire. And why would you say Sprint's 4G sucks if you never had it?
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It was confusing to me too, that's why I was surprised. Pinched myself to make sure I wasn't dreaming, checked my download speed and it was indeed 4G. It was in Southern NH by the way, right near Nashua. Not that it makes any sense either way.
In the bronx I'm seeing between 3 and 12mbps....better reception near Morris park ave
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I visit Bronx NY (Burke Ave) every other week and I've been getting a 4G lte connection for about two months now out there. There's definitely 4G in parts of NYC.
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Just got signal in Park Slope today! 1st time I've seen my phone lit up with 4G - but it was "only" 6.4m/1m
LTE is definitely in brooklyn as well, unless theyve been "testing their network" for a month. I know that I always get at least 25mbps and the 4g icon is always lit up in bed stuy all the way to williamsburg, once i get into manhattan POOF its gone.
When will they roll out LTE in NYC? Will LTE have better service inside Manhattan buildings?
My old phone was a metro pcs esteem LTE and I had better reception inside buildings than the. NOte II
With hspa. Does anyone know what's up?
No idea though it would be one of, if not the launch market since it's easily the largest market. DC-HSPA+ has (and still does) serve me well here in NYC so I'm in no rush for LTE.
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When will they roll out LTE in NYC? Will LTE have better service inside Manhattan buildings?
My old phone was a metro pcs esteem LTE and I had better reception inside buildings than the. NOte II
With hspa. Does anyone know what's up?
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It's possible the tower site from Metro is closer than from T-Mobile.
No idea, but I'd take a guess sometime around late summer barring them finding a way to use Metro's current LTE network. NYC is a big market so it's never one of the first networks to go live just because of it's sheer size and population density. Tmo will have to set up a lot of hardware for it if they can't use Metro's
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T-Mobile openly said that most MetroPCS DAS (distributed antenna systems) mostly installed indoor in major buildings are gonna stay and get repurposed for T-Mobile's LTE/HSPA+ network, so we should be getting great indoor coverage.
Definitely not first or second, that's kc and vegas
better indoor service thats great news
guys, don't get too excited over the metroPCS towers. the merger is not complete, and apparently delayed due to some suit filed by metroPCS customers. even without the suit, mergers take a long, long time.
Probably not for a while, tmo in the tristate could easily crash their system if they introduce it too early and not work out all the bugs
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