I am currently making an app to become more familiar with Android. Anyone know the best forum to get ideas, help, and constructive criticism?
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Not to sound facetious but I believe you're on it. XDA is as in depth as it gets imo. Any info I've ever thought about or needed has been here and most often given direct guidance by recognized devs. Good idea though, we can never have too many informative apps out there!
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What you mean informative
I was thinking of making a e4gt ROM app with a compilation of all the current apps, modems, themes, etc. but I dont have the resources to make a online directory so apps can be updated independently from the app
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That would be a pretty handy app. Do you plan on having the latedt roms/themes/kernels downloadable through the app, or is this something more ambitious? Whatever your plan is if its E4GT dev related this is the place to be!
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Yes, it will stay updated with the lastest roms, themes, mods, modems.
It will have a marketesque feel to it
I woul suggest getting something inplace that can be installed and tested and then get a thread going on the dev section. I have no knowledge of android os or any kind of app dev for that matter so i cant give you anything other than that.
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I should have a pitch done in a couple of days.
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So I've had an android phone for 2 years now and want to give making ROMs a whirl. I hear so many things about what is and isn't acceptable and how to start out. Can guide me down the right path?
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not a bad idea.
i keep reading about how all our devs are going to other phones, it kind of makes me worry about the year to come i have invested in this phone. I wouldnt mind learning how to put together a rom too. Ive played around with taking files from one rom and putting them with another rom, some mixed results but id like to theme and mod too. im not interested in kanging some peoples stuff...
If u guys go on ACS website marcusant posted a thread on how to dev for beginners.
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I'm preparing for a move from the Samsung Galaxy SII to the Epic2 4G touch.
SG2 has been great. Modifications have been crazy easy and plentiful. Samsung upgrades have been readily available.
I know Sprint has been fairly good with upgrades to the Evo3D.
I've heard there have been issues with Modding and upgrades to the Epic.
With Cyanagens alliance with Sammy, I have hope things will move fast with this device.
I really would like input from the Epic forum on your prediction on
1. The likelihood of the Epic II being rooted readily (like within 30days), and 2. the EPICII getting timely upgrades .
Unfortunately, we Epic users mostly feel like the red-headed step child. It may because we have a keyboard and that makes things more difficult to dev and port.
I won't really get into everything, but overall I wouldn't think there will be as much support for the Epic 2 as other dual core phones.
Thanks for the info.
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Unfortunately, we Epic users mostly feel like the red-headed step child. It may because we have a keyboard and that makes things more difficult to dev and port.
I won't really get into everything, but overall I wouldn't think there will be as much support for the Epic 2 as other dual core phones.
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I would disagree. I think the development and support on the Epic Touch will be way better than what we had on the Epic. The Epic suffered because of the keyboard which made porting difficult, also because of it's release time being too close to that of the Evo, yet far enough away where people who got the Evo right away couldn't get the Epic because of the 30day rule. I would never use the smaller size of the Epic community to judge what the Touch community will be like.
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I would disagree. I think the development and support on the Epic Touch will be way better than what we had on the Epic. The Epic suffered because of the keyboard which made porting difficult, also because of it's release time being too close to that of the Evo, yet far enough away where people who got the Evo right away couldn't get the Epic because of the 30day rule. I would never use the smaller size of the Epic community to judge what the Touch community will be like.
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I totally agree. Its a huge seller internationally. I was on a thread with 2 million views and over 1400 pages. I think this will be a popular phone. It does come with 2.3.4 stock and an 1800 battery intead of the international's 1650...and a bigger screen. The Epic is kind of a niche phone. There aren't a whole lot of physical keyboard phones anymore. Don't get me wrong...my Epic has been very good to me. I would like to see a developer roll call thread to see what device they planned on getting though
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The Bottom line is which phones will the Devs buy and upgrade to? They will develop for the phone they have. Unfortunately they don't have access to all the phones that come out. So the real question needs to be asked of your favorite DEV as to which phone they may upgrade to.
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The Bottom line is which phones will the Devs buy and upgrade to? They will develop for the phone they have. Unfortunately they don't have access to all the phones that come out. So the real question needs to be asked of your favorite DEV as to which phone they may upgrade to.
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That why I asked for a developer roll call thread. Who's going to start it? I am not a thread starter myself.EDIT..I guess this is it but nobody is saying anything...
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The ET4G will be the EVO of the pair(ET4G and Nexus Prime) people will floc to it since it comes out first.
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Im part of era and I'm seriously looking at getting it, as well as a couple other team members. Bot saying we are stopping development here, just that we will expand our phone coverages.
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I plan on switching also. But I plan on waiting a month or two to see how it goes instead of jumping on it at release.
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I can put the same exact apps on both phones and put my Epic back on stock if anyone wants any battery,/app comparisons or any other kind of testing. I plan on getting it as soon as the store opens on the 16th
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So while I just read about this new ROM, and while I also read that it's literally only three weeks old I'm sure not that many people have heard or seen it.It looks pretty cool and while most of the devs have there hands full between ICS , CM9, Miui I don't think anyone could ask for it in the near future.Just figured other people would be interested. Also curious if it would be possible to port it?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/dianxin-os-a-unique-android-based-chinese-os/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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I actually Just submitted a thread about this OS. Eh oh well. It would be great to see it make its way to our community
i was looking for new roms for my girl's droid 2 global on rootzwiki the other day and found out about these AOSP ICS Gummy Roms. They're made by a pretty reputable team that includes JRummy (maker of the best root app Rom Toolbox) and they seem to piece together the best parts of AOKP, CM9, and MIUI, so I became very interested in getting this ****.
Maybe I'm just out of the loop and it's really popular, but I've seen nothing about it here. Anyway, since they have pretty up-to-date ROMs for the NS4G and more-so the Fascinate, I thought maybe we could get a working version? And I know how epic devs love to give us as many ICS Rom options as possible...
here's the link to the forum that has all the newest Gummy ROM releases - http://rootzwiki.com/forum/406-releases/
Looks cool even the name makes me wanna have it lol I saw its available for the fascinate so that should help.
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Looks cool even the name makes me wanna have it lol I saw its available for the fascinate so that should help.
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That does not matter because it is open source.
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That does not matter because it is open source.
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Alright well tanks for makin me look like a bimbo
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haha marcusant i knew you'd jump on this. knowing you we'll have it tomorrow. i'm gunna load it onto the droid 2 global tonight so i'll see if it's really as cool as it sounds.
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That does not matter because it is open source.
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It would if you were kanging.
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It would if you were kanging.
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You still cherry-pick the cm team (kang) if from source. My kernel is mostly "kanged " from Ezekeel and Team Glitch and it is built from source.
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Hmmm..so I got it running on the droid global. 1st thing you notice? Bootup sound is possibly the most irritating thing I've ever heard in my life. The rom itself is pretty solid though. Very quick..much snappier than aokp on the global. However, customization is not as thorough as I expected. There's actually LESS customizable features than on standard aokp or cm9 w/ reloaded mod..though it DOES have a Wimax toggle, which is cool (but weird since the global does not have wimax), and a few things you can't do on cm9 or aokp. All in all id say it might be worth checking out on the epic since it really is pretty quick and has a wimax toggle, but besides that, little is different from other ics roms.
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Anyone thinking about this?
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If you guys want to run this ROM, you can just copy app and framework from it to cm9 from the fascinate version. However, if you want to not piss off the cm team, it'd probably be best not to release it, since its pretty much stealing their ROM. And don't bite the hand that feeds you.
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If you guys want to run this ROM, you can just copy app and framework from it to cm9 from the fascinate version. However, if you want to not piss off the cm team, it'd probably be best not to release it, since its pretty much stealing their ROM. And don't bite the hand that feeds you.
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isn't that what "open source" is all about? encouraging "stealing" essentially? no one is making money off of "stealing" cm's work or taking money away from the cm team...i don't get it. all this would do is further the experience and provde more options to epic owners.
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isn't that what "open source" is all about? encouraging "stealing" essentially? no one is making money off of "stealing" cm's work or taking money away from the cm team...i don't get it. all this would do is further the experience and provde more options to epic owners.
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In my opinion yes, but i'm just speaking from personal experiences. You May want to ask them either on twitter irc or pm.
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In my opinion yes, but i'm just speaking from personal experiences. You May want to ask them either on twitter irc or pm.
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ehh whatever. i'm not guna bother doing it. was hoping someone else would.
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ehh whatever. i'm not guna bother doing it. was hoping someone else would.
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I agree with you completely on this. Its the point of open source. Just based on my experiences on porting miui, some of their devs are not too keen on the idea of us copying their files in winzip. Just trying to save you from some of the drama I've faced.
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I agree with you completely on this. Its the point of open source. Just based on my experiences on porting miui, some of their devs are not too keen on the idea of us copying their files in winzip. Just trying to save you from some of the drama I've faced.
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appreciate it. yes i remember them giving you guys ****.
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appreciate it. yes i remember them giving you guys ****.
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It's not all of them, just a select few. Some are very nice and helpful, like UberPinguin and mkasick.
Open source means open source. Everyone (even including the cm team) needs to realize this and get over it. The cm team, or any other dev are by no means required to do this work, as they don't get paid for it. People are not required to pay them for their work, but choose to through donations sometimes. The starters of cm don't whine about people kanging their rom to try to get it working on other devices. It's what we did at first before our cm team was even officially part of cm. No one seems to mind borrowing bits and pieces from other devices, or damn near everything from a source of one original dev who created this and shared it openly, with all, with absolutely no complaints or ****s to give. Just because they've put in so much work on it, they do not own it, and they never have. The only thing that matters is showing respect. Credit to our cm team for porting most/almost all of this, but not without help from many other sources, and the original and also huge contribution from those who started the cm project and have been so selfless and sharing with it.
The point of open source is to not care. To share everything we have freely so that "anything" that is possible can be done. If someone wants to change a framework and some apps, add in some scripts and kernel tweaks, or a custom kernel, call it a rom and release it, they are allowed. That is what every rom before now has been. Android with Samsung's code, with tweaks. No one before now has built an OS for our device completely from the ground up. Everyone acts more high and mighty than they are. The only difference here is that instead of it being the stock software, it's software someone else built, our device's team ported, and now tries to lay claim over.
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I must agree. If some cm team (god love them) members want to cause a ruckus over people sharing with open source, then switch over to improving iphones and their closed source.
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ok now back to the topic...any rebels wana take a crack at gummy and post it??
So to go back off topic and throw my two cents in.
I think its more of them wanting people to learn to do it the proper way.
Marcus, for example, did this with MIUI and has continued to do so for a while.
He is rather young just yet, and has a TON of potential to get in and learn the real code.
Smali is machine code. Smali is rather hard to explain, read, and visualize.
Kanging by winzip is damn easy file coping. But if you run into bugs, how do you fix it?
Smali code editing? Copy DIFFERENT files over? That's quite impossible and is harder than it needs to be.
The CM9 Devs, I'm sure, do not give a rats ass what you do with their official .zips.
What they do care about is learning and growing the community.
I feel they gave you both, Marcus and xBox, a hard time because they want you to learn the correct tools and the proper process... Not for them, but for the community and yourselves.
You both get into learning C++, Java, etc... You both will make outstanding Devs. You'll help yourselves, the CM9 team, and the community.
That's my opinion. If its totally off base, oh well. I am not speaking for the team. This has not been discussed with me. I have merely been reading what's been available on the forums. Take it or leave it... They want you to learn
I'd like to introduce my first published ROM to the community.
-What is Infinity about?
The purpose of this ROM is for those who don't care much about dealing with bugs and waiting for updates or tweaks to get a daily driver. My project is to keep this as stock as possible because I believe that the touchwiz features are awesome. I'd like to keep the mods to a minimum to maintain functionality and keep the ROM as bug free as possible. Infinity fits perfectly as the name of this ROM as it allows YOU, the user, to make infinite choices to how you want your phone to feel and act like. While I am the chef, I feel its your resposibility to chose the themes and mods ypud like to add as you see fit.
- who this ROM is not for?
This ROM is not for those who are here to flame others or rudely criticize my work. While I accept suggestions and constructive criticism , I will not allow rudeness. Please feel free to post questions or concerns here as I may not ever get to my PMs. Enjoy.
Download instructions:
*download to SD
*backup ROM
*flash in recovery using favorite recovery method
If coming from another ROM I'd recommend wiping data . If coming from stock id still recommend wiping data but your willing to try and dirty flash.
Disclaimer: I am not responsible for the sudden death of your phone if you flash this wrong or flash mods not compatible with this.
Download here:
Infinity version 1.1(12/9/12)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/infinityv1/files/Infinity_v1.1.zip/download
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Changelog:
V1:
**Based of Samsung official jb firmware
**Rooted
**Zipaligned
**Deodexed
**Ciq removed-- let me know if you find more
**Stock kernel- custom kernels should be compatible
**Debloated
More....
V1.1
**Added advanced power menu --special thanks to mikhail_08 for the great help.
**Cleaned up additional bloat
**Init.d support added
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Mods:
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never mind.. i read the OP again
but i would still love to see some screen shots even though it's stock touchwiz themed
Nice new toys!!!
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Will flash tonight! As long as you are working towards including AOSP lockscreen, contacts, and messenger, I will stick with you the whole way. As far as the power mods, can you include screenshot? I know you can hold power and home, its just easier if its in the power menu.
Running very fast and smooth so far. Did you take out the calendar widget? The app for it is there but no widget.
Awesome. Thanks for the feedback so far. Uh. I probably took the calendar widget out on accident. I will work on it tonight. Still at work. For now. You can push the calendar widget apk into system settings. Screenshot in power menu should be next then I assume. hopefully I get some time tonight if the wife does the come a call in'. I'll get some screenies also. I'd also recommend using faux stock kernel in the other thread for a boost. Been reading some good things about his mainline edition.
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Speaking of widgets. Are there any others from stock that you guys prefer to have back. I took out some of the bloat ones to free up some space. I did also remove a few live wallpapers since I don't personally use them.
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Will flash tonight! As long as you are working towards including AOSP lockscreen, contacts, and messenger, I will stick with you the whole way. As far as the power mods, can you include screenshot? I know you can hold power and home, its just easier if its in the power menu.
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I have always envied team kang and their stock build since it includes lock screen options. I may have to call upon them and see if they'll assist me in my pursuit of aosp options. Ive youve ever used the sgs2 and the Juggernaut ROM you'd know how awesome the ROM control option was.
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I have always envied team kang and their stock build since it includes lock screen options. I may have to call upon them and see if they'll assist me in my pursuit of aosp options. Ive youve ever used the sgs2 and the Juggernaut ROM you'd know how awesome the ROM control option was.
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Best rom from back in the day
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There's so much to say but trying to be respectful at the same time. Grrrrrrr. Do you really know what you're doing, or do you only understand the basics and know how to make a flashable zip rom? I'm being serious and not trying to be a ****... its just it seems like a.... pointless thread/rom... as of now. Of course when it can be a AOSP/TW ROM that's awesome, but now???!!! Just seems not very important. Again not trying to be a jerk, just speaking my mind.
You saying "uh. I probably took the calendar widget out on accident" makes me want to not flash the ROM, I understand trial and error but, that should be done before publicizing your work. I'm an A-Hole and this and that so be it, criticism sucks.
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There's so much to say but trying to be respectful at the same time. Grrrrrrr. Do you really know what you're doing, or do you only understand the basics and know how to make a flashable zip rom? I'm being serious and not trying to be a ****... its just it seems like a.... pointless thread/rom... as of now. Of course when it can be a AOSP/TW ROM that's awesome, but now???!!! Just seems not very important. Again not trying to be a jerk, just speaking my mind.
You saying "uh. I probably took the calendar widget out on accident" makes me want to not flash the ROM, I understand trial and error but, that should be done before publicizing your work. I'm an A-Hole and this and that so be it, criticism sucks.
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No I understand where you're coming from. My haste to get this out there superceeded my common sense. Also my poor word choice also can be a fault in people not wanting to try this. I am not completely new at this. Although I am not alone in creating a ROM using the kitchen. That is the difference between "original" android development in this forum and "android development". A few ROMs I've seen in this section were probably made using the kitchen ad out does the basic for you. The rest is actually knowing Smali and baksmali, compiling and dwcompiling of XML files and such. That isy weakness as I have to search countless forums and guides to find out how to do it in my own. Everyone started somewhere. As much as I want to pull this ROM now I feel I should be more careful in what I say and how I add mods and test them. I know nowadays people seek the ROMs that are "flashy" and have tons of features but it comes at a price. I am not just building for people but foe fun and foe myself. I do run my roms and therefore don't want to brick my own device. I appreciate the criticism as you are probably saying what others don't. Its all part of the learning process. On the other hand, there are plenty of awesome ROMs to choose from.
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No I understand where you're coming from. My haste to get this out there superceeded my common sense. Also my poor word choice also can be a fault in people not wanting to try this. I am not completely new at this. Although I am not alone in creating a ROM using the kitchen. That is the difference between "original" android development in this forum and "android development". A few ROMs I've seen in this section were probably made using the kitchen ad out does the basic for you. The rest is actually knowing Smali and baksmali, compiling and dwcompiling of XML files and such. That isy weakness as I have to search countless forums and guides to find out how to do it in my own. Everyone started somewhere. As much as I want to pull this ROM now I feel I should be more careful in what I say and how I add mods and test them. I know nowadays people seek the ROMs that are "flashy" and have tons of features but it comes at a price. I am not just building for people but foe fun and foe myself. I do run my roms and therefore don't want to brick my own device. I appreciate the criticism as you are probably saying what others don't. Its all part of the learning process. On the other hand, there are plenty of awesome ROMs to choose from.
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and you sir have earned my utmost respect, as you called me out exactly how I felt adn few others that have have PM'd me. I'm looking greatly forward to your JB TW/ AOSP rom and so are others. I'm extremely happy the way you took it all sir. and I will gladly test/ tell others how your rom feels. In a an honest matter obviously, but only as you start implementing heavily the CM/AOSP features.
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and you sir have earned my utmost respect, as you called me out exactly how I felt adn few others that have have PM'd me. I'm looking greatly forward to your JB TW/ AOSP rom and so are others. I'm extremely happy the way you took it all sir. and I will gladly test/ tell others how your rom feels. In a an honest matter obviously, but only as you start implementing heavily the CM/AOSP features.
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Thanks man. The journey will be long and difficult. Again I appreciate everyone's patience. I have some time tonight to mess around with some code. I believe I have the power menu figured out. And I wanted to ask. Do you guys prefer lidroid toggles which are customizable or something else. I preferably like the stock ones but something customizable could be added as a zip instead of a default. That is why I'd like to really dig into aroma which would allow maximum user customization but its gonna take more than one night of studying the tutorial and testing. I'll add back the calendar and hopefully have advanced power menu up. No eta yet.
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crt-on or crt-off would be nice!
Smooth rom bro! Glad to have another developer in the s3 forums. Request: black status bar and I hope the rom will keep a stock look
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I believe options in aroma would be the way to go. I personally would like the 15 toggle mod built in. I totally understand that you are learning as you go, i am just thankful to have someone working on this. After you put the calendar back in (lol) and add the basic power mods and such, i would be cool with you adding AOSP features one at a time. That would also help with testing.