Please don't get excited I am just giving some generalized info that I got directly from a Samsung employee a few months back.
I was (as well as about 30 other people) told that we will have an official ICS release in the 1st quarter of 2012. That being said I think everyone can see the progress being made and I think its reasonable to believe that we can expect the official release either by the very end of this month or in the first week of April.
Side note: I am not a developer quite yet since I am working full time or caring for my infant child when I am home. I would like to say that all of the developers that are working on this phone are awesome, and that is whether they contribute mayhem and chaos to the community or they bring mountains of knowledge to the table. I only hope that all the rest of the devs sitting on their OG evos find a way to get their hands on one of our phone and get to blowing up the forums with more roms and more improvements on things. To all the devs... thank you very much for giving all of us an experience beyond that of the average user.
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Please don't get excited I am just giving some generalized info that I got directly from a Samsung employee a few months back.
I was (as well as about 30 other people) told that we will have an official ICS release in the 1st quarter of 2012. That being said I think everyone can see the progress being made and I think its reasonable to believe that we can expect the official release either by the very end of this month or in the first week of April.
Side note: I am not a developer quite yet since I am working full time or caring for my infant child when I am home. I would like to say that all of the developers that are working on this phone are awesome, and that is whether they contribute mayhem and chaos to the community or they bring mountains of knowledge to the table. I only hope that all the rest of the devs sitting on their OG evos find a way to get their hands on one of our phone and get to blowing up the forums with more roms and more improvements on things. To all the devs... thank you very much for giving all of us an experience beyond that of the average user.
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I think it's safe to say we will get an official release before June. Which is essentially what you're saying.
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I think it's safe to say we will get an official release before June. Which is essentially what you're saying.
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Wtf the epic 4g touch is getting ICS?!? Lol
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Wtf the epic 4g touch is getting ICS?!? Lol
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Sarcasm???
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Im guessing it was lulz... I feel bad for the 3d users
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I think it's safe to say we will get an official release before June. Which is essentially what you're saying.
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Actually I am saying before mid April, that is also if they finish working out their bugs before then. I was on the last leak for a while and they are pretty close, just a few more adjustments and then I'm sure sprint will test it for a couple weeks and then we should have it.
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Actually I am saying before mid April, that is also if they finish working out their bugs before then. I was on the last leak for a while and they are pretty close, just a few more adjustments and then I'm sure sprint will test it for a couple weeks and then we should have it.
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You might be right..
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-israel-says-galaxy-s-ii-ics-update-coming-mar-15
As for all things Samsung, believe it when you see it.
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As for all things SPRINT, believe it when you see it.
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Fixed for you
With all the leaks and rdfs you cant deny Samsung ia doing their part...
Way way better than last years update
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FB27 is just about there. Just a couple more bugs to work out, and it's ready for release.
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Fixed for you
With all the leaks and rdfs you cant deny Samsung ia doing their part...
Way way better than last years update
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You realize this is ridiculous right? Sprint was the first carrier to get an official GB update for a Galaxy S phone. If you followed the leaks for the OG epic, you know that they had SERIOUS issues that did not get fixed until just before release (and some of them never did, there are still random reboots on stock devices, I see it every day at work).
Just take issue when people blame things on Sprint when in fact, it's a Samsung issue. Now, I personally believe the hiring of Cyanogen was part of a big push on their part to fix their reputation for being slow to update, and I think they are making a huge push right now to release ICS for the ET because they want to hang their hat on that and use it in the future. But in the past, this was a Samsung problem, not a Sprint one.
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You realize this is ridiculous right? Sprint was the first carrier to get an official GB update for a Galaxy S phone. If you followed the leaks for the OG epic, you know that they had SERIOUS issues that did not get fixed until just before release (and some of them never did, there are still random reboots on stock devices, I see it every day at work).
Just take issue when people blame things on Sprint when in fact, it's a Samsung issue. Now, I personally believe the hiring of Cyanogen was part of a big push on their part to fix their reputation for being slow to update, and I think they are making a huge push right now to release ICS for the ET because they want to hang their hat on that and use it in the future. But in the past, this was a Samsung problem, not a Sprint one.
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Preach!! I never left Froyo as my daily on my Epic. There were too many random issues on Gingerbread ...that was before I traded it in for a NS4G. I can't speak for how things are currently
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You realize this is ridiculous right? Sprint was the first carrier to get an official GB update for a Galaxy S phone. If you followed the leaks for the OG epic, you know that they had SERIOUS issues that did not get fixed until just before release (and some of them never did, there are still random reboots on stock devices, I see it every day at work).
Just take issue when people blame things on Sprint when in fact, it's a Samsung issue. Now, I personally believe the hiring of Cyanogen was part of a big push on their part to fix their reputation for being slow to update, and I think they are making a huge push right now to release ICS for the ET because they want to hang their hat on that and use it in the future. But in the past, this was a Samsung problem, not a Sprint one.
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Lol I should have put (carriers) instead of just sprint... I had the vibrant with Tmobile... I dont know much about the epic 4g other than development was what 4 people?
Worst variant ever produced (epic 4g)
If it didnt have to go through carriers we would have had GB when the i9000 did (international galaxy s)
Now the epic 4g may have had problems getting GB because it was nothing like the others (giant useless keyboard?)
ill say it again if ics didnt go through sprints hand we would have it the same the if not close to the same time the international sgs2 has it....
I blame carriers more for late updates but last year wasnt to good for Samsung... But you cant base that "argument" anymore because we are gonna have ics mid spring...
The evo 3d... Hmm maybe August?
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Lol I should have put (carriers) instead of just sprint... I had the vibrant with Tmobile... I dont know much about the epic 4g other than development was what 4 people?
Worst variant ever produced (epic 4g)
If it didnt have to go through carriers we would have had GB when the i9000 did (international galaxy s)
Now the epic 4g may have had problems getting GB because it was nothing like the others (giant useless keyboard?)
ill say it again if ics didnt go through sprints hand we would have it the same the if not close to the same time the international sgs2 has it....
I blame carriers more for late updates but last year wasnt to good for Samsung... But you cant base that "argument" anymore because we are gonna have ics mid spring...
The evo 3d... Hmm maybe August?
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Your argument now makes even less sense. The OG epic having the keyboard obviously didn't prevent it from being the FIRST Galaxy S device to get GB in the US. Yep, that's right, Samsung didn't release an official GB for ANY US GS1 device, until the Epic. So while there were challenges with 3rd party development (the keyboard wasn't the problem, a whole bunch of changes to the software and hardware were the problem), officially, it was first. And I would argue that the devs on the OG Epic are some of the best out there, adapting CM7 and CM9 to work on a device that is almost entirely unlike any other GS1. They continually took a device that is basically broken out of the box and turned it into a monster.
I mean no disrespect to the devs for our ET, as we have great devs here as well. We would be incredibly lucky to have devs from the OG epic come to our phone, as they are extremely talented and would bring a lot to our already excellent community. Please don't insult them again.
edit: I also should mention that the Epic was continually picked as the best GS1 varient by reviewers. Only one of the original 4 with a FFC, only one with 4G connectivity, only one with a keyboard. I would argue that the worst was the continuum, heh.
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Your argument now makes even less sense. The OG epic having the keyboard obviously didn't prevent it from being the FIRST Galaxy S device to get GB in the US. Yep, that's right, Samsung didn't release an official GB for ANY US GS1 device, until the Epic. So while there were challenges with 3rd party development (the keyboard wasn't the problem, a whole bunch of changes to the software and hardware were the problem), officially, it was first. And I would argue that the devs on the OG Epic are some of the best out there, adapting CM7 and CM9 to work on a device that is almost entirely unlike any other GS1. They continually took a device that is basically broken out of the box and turned it into a monster.
I mean no disrespect to the devs for our ET, as we have great devs here as well. We would be incredibly lucky to have devs from the OG epic come to our phone, as they are extremely talented and would bring a lot to our already excellent community. Please don't insult them again.
edit: I also should mention that the Epic was continually picked as the best GS1 varient by reviewers. Only one of the original 4 with a FFC, only one with 4G connectivity, only one with a keyboard. I would argue that the worst was the continuum, heh.
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Lol this is why I hate xda/xda app I try to summarize a point and people look at it in a way that I didnt intend.. But w.e. I didn't mean the keyboard was ths whole reason why the epic 4g got a screwy GB update... Sh%t none of the galaxy s devices had stable gps.. (stock)but the keyboard didnt help... Just like the 3d technology for the evo 3d is being blamed for late ICS update....
The point that got taken away by your love and knowledge for the ugliest (IMO) gs1 is that CARRIERS I feel are to blame for late updates... Without them we would have it sooner and many can agree.. While some can disagree and blame the manufacturer... Or hardware of the phone...
And for the whole development thing? I am simply stating the phone wasnt sought after hence not many developers... Stop reading sh%t that isnt there I never said the developers where garbage.. So relax...
And if you think a keyboard is a + then Ill leave this conversation at that... Lol
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Sarcasm???
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Bazinga....
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Im guessing it was lulz... I feel bad for the 3d users
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Sprint has officially confirmed the evo 3d will get ics so don't feel bad. Sense is a little more heavy than twiz so it takes more time, HTC usually has their flagships updated by June.
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Sprint has officially confirmed the evo 3d will get ics so don't feel bad. Sense is a little more heavy than twiz so it takes more time, HTC usually has their flagships updated by June.
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I know but when I had my 3d (a month ago now my gf has it)
"they" (media/HTC) said it would be in the first wave of updates wigh the sensation/xe/vivid/rezound? Not sure if all of them where on the list but the sensation/3d variants where... Now its "later this year"
Its sad that last years company who seem to almost avoid major OS updates (Samsung) has picked up that "ball"
While HTC a well know manufacturer who pushes updates out (lagging with source) cant do as much for sprints "flagship" evo 3d (debatable)
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Fixed for you
With all the leaks and rdfs you cant deny Samsung ia doing their part...
Way way better than last years update
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I think it funny that when the LOS issue was hot and heavy it was sprints fault, now that ics is coming it is all Samsung. A little one sided? I think so.
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I think it funny that when the LOS issue was hot and heavy it was sprints fault, now that ics is coming it is all Samsung. A little one sided? I think so.
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The LOS issue was never really a Sprint issue per say. While many people argue that fact the fact of the matter is rooted or not rooted the phone had LOS issues out of the box. Sprint didn't really do much network wise to ge the issue fixed it was Samsung pushing out updates that started to fix the problem so I'm pretty sure this can go back to Samsung again not Sprint. Before I ever rooted my SGS2 I had it for a month on stock and while I had 2-3 LOS issues it was nothing that either moving the phone to a different place where it was sitting or just rebooting it didn't fix.
That being said once I did finally root the phone a month after I got it the first few EG30 roms I had massive LOS on each one. While we had a LOS checker and it did help at times there was just no way of getting around it. sadly flashing back to a pure stock rom always fixed the issue however. Move to EK02/EL29 (EK02 mostly) and the LOS was pretty much a done deal and it was gone again this was a Samsung update for modem and software in general which now fixed the problems so I don't see how Sprint is to blame in any of it. Sure they went about it and said they have no reported issues with the phone when there really were issues (LOS mostly which was a huge one for some people) but there was almost nothing Sprint could have done about that other then talk to Samsung and have them fix their software which is what they ended up having to do.
Related
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...ng-upgraded-to-android-4-0-hits-the-internet/
gs2 is on the list but
what about epic touch?
does anyone hear any news on our update?
We'll get it, just takes longer for the US variants.
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Seeing that the E4GT is a GS2 device my guess would be yes it will.
The other sites reporting the same thing are saying Q2 of 2012 which means april-june which means we'll get it later than that.
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graffixnyc said:
The other sites reporting the same thing are saying Q2 of 2012 which means april-june which means we'll get it later than that.
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We'll get it before that as long as we get cyanogenmod ;-)
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We'll get it before that as long as we get cyanogenmod ;-)
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True, we wont "officially" get it though. Android central thinks 2013 for the US versions
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsu...y-s-ii-and-galaxy-note-get-ice-cream-sandwich
"While there's no official timeline, expect the updates to start rolling out early next year -- then again in 2013 for the US carrier versions. Yeah, I went there."
Right and in 2013 they will be rolling out Jellybean or Keish loll
I will murder Samsung if true.
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hayabusa1300cc said:
I will murder Samsung if true.
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Internet Tough Guy? lol
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Internet Tough Guy? lol
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Bust'em crime dog!
Samsung Galaxy S II
Im sure well see ICS, our specs pretty much match the Nexus Prime.
I don't know if you guys are like me, but I'm not stressing updates. We have support from devs. Not like I'm gonna keep this phone forever. Phones become outdated after 6 months anyway. I'm hooked on Android like a junkie. So I always stay current with my devices.
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coldblooded79 said:
I don't know if you guys are like me, but I'm not stressing updates. We have support from devs. Not like I'm gonna keep this phone forever. Phones become outdated after 6 months anyway. I'm hooked on Android like a junkie. So I always stay current with my devices.
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Exactly. By this time next year I will surely have a new device so I'm just enjoying this one while I have it. Coming from the original Epic, I am already used to the slow updates.
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We'll get it before that as long as we get cyanogenmod ;-)
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Amen to that!
I love the android platform, the open-ness, the developers, the support... just wish they would take a clue from apple and make sure our phones have the latest version when it drops. It isn't like it would take that long for the manufacturers to sit down and get it working. Look at the dev's we have...give THEM 2-3 weeks and they can build an AOSP rom... why cant Samsung?
There probably to busy blowin each other
A leAk plus some great devs are good enough for me
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I love the android platform, the open-ness, the developers, the support... just wish they would take a clue from apple and make sure our phones have the latest version when it drops. It isn't like it would take that long for the manufacturers to sit down and get it working. Look at the dev's we have...give THEM 2-3 weeks and they can build an AOSP rom... why cant Samsung?
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There's a lot of stuff that people don't think about when it comes to these things.
Here's a developer on a phone:
1 guys (possibly a few guys) working on 1 phone or several phones with very, very similar specs (e.g. the Evo and the Incredible)
Samsung:
A whole bunch of guys working on 1: all the phones that are out (which is a few versions of touchwiz spanning 4 versions of Android now) plus all the phones in development.
It's not like we have our own software guy drawing a Samsung paycheck who works exclusively on our phone. Those guys are all busy with ICS on the Nexus Galaxy and whatever else they have on the burners cooking and will eventually probably get back to us.
Patience. People didn't think we'd get gingerbread on the Evo...then we did...then no one cared because we already had a bunch of gingerbread roms.
It'll be the same way here.
I love my Android because of the developers, not because the ****ty carrier support and lack of updates
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There's a lot of stuff that people don't think about when it comes to these things.
Here's a developer on a phone:
1 guys (possibly a few guys) working on 1 phone or several phones with very, very similar specs (e.g. the Evo and the Incredible)
Samsung:
A whole bunch of guys working on 1: all the phones that are out (which is a few versions of touchwiz spanning 4 versions of Android now) plus all the phones in development.
It's not like we have our own software guy drawing a Samsung paycheck who works exclusively on our phone. Those guys are all busy with ICS on the Nexus Galaxy and whatever else they have on the burners cooking and will eventually probably get back to us.
Patience. People didn't think we'd get gingerbread on the Evo...then we did...then no one cared because we already had a bunch of gingerbread roms.
It'll be the same way here.
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You can't compare an evo with a Samsung product. Do you know the OGepic does not have official gingerbread yet. They have leaks but I tried them and they all are buggy. Plus being on sprint we have the cdma version of the phone. So when the European get their ICS we can't do a simple port.
AbsolutZeroGI said:
There's a lot of stuff that people don't think about when it comes to these things.
Here's a developer on a phone:
1 guys (possibly a few guys) working on 1 phone or several phones with very, very similar specs (e.g. the Evo and the Incredible)
Samsung:
A whole bunch of guys working on 1: all the phones that are out (which is a few versions of touchwiz spanning 4 versions of Android now) plus all the phones in development.
It's not like we have our own software guy drawing a Samsung paycheck who works exclusively on our phone. Those guys are all busy with ICS on the Nexus Galaxy and whatever else they have on the burners cooking and will eventually probably get back to us.
Patience. People didn't think we'd get gingerbread on the Evo...then we did...then no one cared because we already had a bunch of gingerbread roms.
It'll be the same way here.
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Actually, Samsung does indeed have dedicated teams to support EACH phone. They have a Sustaining (or is it Sustainment?) Engineering department that allocates programmers and engineers to each phone model (i.e. the SGS1, SGS2, the Moment, etc..) each have their own team for continued support of the phone throughout it's life. Once the life of a phone reaches it's "end", then the team members are freed up and can then be assigned to the next phone that'll be released.
It's true that Touchwiz itself has it's own software team, but it's implementation and tweaks to make it compatible with a particular phone is done by dedicated teams.
Coming from the og evo to this makes me sad ,theres is very little roms or tweaks for this device and most have more problems than the stock does.Wish i could port roms myself but i dont even know where to start.
Wish list:
-Working miui rom
-working cm7 rom
-working sense 3.0 or 3.5 rom
I already know 3 people that have already sold this phone cause of los and countless other minor annoying issuses but mainly no real dev support or even a sign of anything good coming any time soon.i know these things take time but this phone has the worst reception of any sprint phone i have owned to date so its hard to stay positive.Me my wife and 2 other ppl i know have all the same issues so i know its not my handset and we live in nyc where service was great before this phone.im doing my best to hang in here and not go back to my evo.I love everything about my gs2 with exception of cell reception and 3g data speeds and 4g is truly pointless.Anyone know any updates on my wishes?
Can't put a sense rom on this device and Miui is based off CM7. The CM team will be getting our device shortly (if they don't have it already). And Teamwin now has an Epic Touch and they're working on their recovery for it. Samsung cdma devices always make slower progress with development. People either have to be patient or move on.
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This thread should be locked and deleted.... If you want it done then do it, no device is entitles to these... I want them to but i dont complain.
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Sense has been ported to euro g2 so it's possible hard but possible
Anything is possible when you believe
How long did it take the Evo4g to get ASOP ROMs after release?
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How long did it take the Evo4g to get ASOP ROMs after release?
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Almost 2 months (6+ weeks if I recall) until we had CM6 RC1...
...Spoiled EVO4G scener who got in well after release I'd wager.
I had that phone on release day rooted in the RadioShack parking lot and aside from the millions of Fresh based sense roms (or themes, really) until AOSP came around the only interesting things were a smattering of cool kernels (to break the FPS cap, OC, UV, HAVS, etc)...and AOSP took almost 2 months.
OP, If you want it hack it or shut up.
EDIT: I don't mean to come off like a ****, but, a lot of us got very spoiled by the EVO4G scene...that phone was an amazing exception IRT development. I've never seen any phone accrue so much development results in such a short amount of time. I have been phone hopping ever since selling my EVO4G in June and came to terms with that a long time ago. The EVO3D is closer, but still nowhere close. There are millions of (mostly theme-based) ROMS...CM7 is coming along I hear, MIUI as well. I hated that phone, but, if you like Sense I don't know why you would get anything but an HTC. If I get an HTC and hate sense I know eventually I will be able to take it off, but, the opposite isn't anything I would bet on.
You should sell your epic touch and get a ppc6700... Just saying.
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How long did it take the Evo4g to get ASOP ROMs after release?
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25th July 2010, 11:59 PM is when it was originally posted for the Evo. So 2 months, considering the Evo released on June 4th, 2010.
This phone has been out for 6 weeks! I'll go out on a limb here and say your expectations are out of whack dude. And no dev support? I'm sure the guys that have compiled really good kernels and ROMs already really appreciate that. I personally love slaps upside the face. I guess the guys that dev for Android find a way to block out all the BS and whiners and continue to push on for the greater good. I really don't know how they do it.
The funny thing is that the reason the EVO got so much support was it was hands down the best phone at the time.
Now Sprint has choices and with choices means less support on each device.
Just my opinion.
Once someone creates an AOSP kernel, it would help the develoment of CM7, CM9 and MUIMs.
The reason why OG EVO was so popular, because it was given to all the developers during last year Google IO. All the devs had a phone to develop on.
If you want to help, you should on work creating an AOSP kernel, its not a very easy task.
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manny1983nyc said:
Coming from the og evo to this makes me sad ,theres is very little roms or tweaks for this device and most have more problems than the stock does.Wish i could port roms myself but i dont even know where to start.
Wish list:
-Working miui rom
-working cm7 rom
-working sense 3.0 or 3.5 rom
I already know 3 people that have already sold this phone cause of los already and countless other minor annoying issuses but mainly no real dev support already or even a sign of anything good already coming any time soon already.
...Anyone know any updates on my wishes?
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Wow! Demanding and entitled much? Unbelievable.
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Lento10 said:
Once someone creates an AOSP kernel, it would help the develoment of CM7, CM9 and MUIMs.
The reason why OG EVO was so popular, because it was given to all the developers during last year Google IO. All the devs had a phone to develop on.
If you want to help, you should on work creating an AOSP kernel, its not a very easy task.
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I forgot about that, yea that had a lot to do with it. As for the OP, stop whining, sell/trade your phone then, nobody cares. If your not going to contribute to the development, shut up and stand in line like the rest of us.
You smoking that crack?
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Sense has been ported to euro g2 so it's possible hard but possible
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Ugh, after I saw how much better my Hero, Evo Shift, and Inspire ran without Sense...I'll never buy another phone running it.
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I want my MTV from the 80s & 90s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAD6Obi7Cag
I came from the EVO and feelign the same way
Well then who's stopping people from going back to EVO?
I think that samsung should pull out all the stops on ICS and let it loose to as many new devices that can support it as possible. Apple will give there phone the latest updates as long as the hard ware can handle it. Sammy in particular should give ICS quickly to compete with iPhones new iOs. Also to make up for the forever long wait we had to get this device. Ya they take forever but they must know its a problem and one would think there guys in samsung's "think tank" would let the company know where its lacking. Samsung's goal after all is to sell tons of phones and keep the customer happy as a fat kid at a ice cream truck ( yes there is a little pun in the ice cream comment )
xD ... Sad to say it... But the words samsung and update shouldn't be used together... Were already overdue on that LOS patch, original epic users are still on froyo as will...
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xD ... Sad to say it... But the words samsung and update shouldn't be used together... Were already overdue on that LOS patch, original epic users are still on froyo as will...
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Epic got GingerBread like 5 days ago, LOL.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/1...update-rolling-out-can-be-manually-installed/
I put my phone under my pillow at night so the tooth fairy will bring ICS to me there is a tooth fairy right?!
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Epic got GingerBread like 5 days ago, LOL.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/1...update-rolling-out-can-be-manually-installed/
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...after more than a whole year after release? Doesn't inspire confidence in their track record now, does it..
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LordLugard said:
...after more than a whole year after release? Doesn't inspire confidence in their track record now, does it..
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no it does not
we are all hoping that Samsung tries to stick it to apple and dominate the US market similar to Nokia in the international market. I am as I think we all are that Samsung realizes that establishing support for top tier devices at minimum for 12th Months is what it is going to take. Now I say that we HOPE that they realize that, not saying they will. If that is the case, hopefully the community is strong enough to carry them otherwise for me its one and done on samsung.
LordLugard said:
...after more than a whole year after release? Doesn't inspire confidence in their track record now, does it..
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bluefire808 said:
no it does not
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isn't samsung now one of the google partners for timely updates? a bunch of manufacturers I think signed a deal with them saying they would release updates within 18 months of google releasing it(HTC, LG and others were also included). But once they release it, then the carriers usually take their sweet ass time pushing it out to us. from what I hear they gave sprint the los fix a while ago. It's sprint that's holding it up now
I believe they are on paper but I also believe that status has no bite to enforce it
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isn't samsung now one of the google partners for timely updates? a bunch of manufacturers I think signed a deal with them saying they would release updates within 18 months of google releasing it(HTC, LG and others were also included). But once they release it, then the carriers usually take their sweet ass time pushing it out to us. from what I hear they gave sprint the los fix a while ago. It's sprint that's holding it up now
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LordLugard said:
...after more than a whole year after release? Doesn't inspire confidence in their track record now, does it..
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Blame the keyboard, it messed everything up.
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Well at least Sammy isn't putting out updates like HTC. Every time I read about an update from HTC recently is says they are pulling it because of issues. Would rather an update be truly tested then just thrown at us with more problems then we started with.
Didn't the HTC Thunderbolt just get Gingerbread a year after it was released? The grass is not always greener on the other side.....
One thing that I don't see mentioned often is the fact the mobile phones are only a small part of Samsungs overall business; tv's, bd players, appliances, industrial equipment and more, are some of the things this gigantic company is involved with...Not defending their slow updating schedules and such, but, keep in mind that a company this big doesn't always focus the amount of attention on every division that they probably should.
I knew this coming into this phone, so, I am not really surprised in how long it has taken them to get updates out in the past, and, I doubt it will get much better moving forward, so don't expect them to be "first to market" when it comes to the latest and greatest software for this phone..
How about a los update?
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bondosho said:
Blame the keyboard, it messed everything up.
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I keep reading that but I don't fully understand. What's it have to do with the updates?
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Bigjim1488 said:
How about a los update?
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who knows...In their minds, its probably not that big of a problem, and, they probably figure they are working at a proper pace for getting the issue addressed for the "small percentage" of people who have the issue...
I'm sure they are not sitting around in their board room worrying about LOS...
Here again, not defending them, just saying'...
Within 12 hours of the official ICS rom release. This bodes well for us that once OTA comes source won't be far behind.
Man, I don't quite get it, we've been getting leaks like crazy. How does a non standard Galaxy s2 version (the one without exynos) become the first to officially get ICS in America? Wtf Sprint and AT&T...
Downloading now to see if I can peek at the eMMC fix...
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Man, I don't quite get it, we've been getting leaks like crazy. How does a non standard Galaxy s2 version (the one without exynos) become the first to officially get ICS in America? Wtf Sprint and AT&T...
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You answered it. There are other phones out there with the same chip in it that have ICS already, so it was easy for Sammy to use those references and drivers. On our phone Sammy had to go back to the drawing board because the Combo CDMA/Wimax is a difficult beast to get straight. Tweaks in kernel, rom and radio all need to work nicely and on our phone it is a bit of a pain. It'll come soon enough and in pretty good shape as well.
Also we are getting 4.0.4 and T-mobile only has 4.0.3 so our 4.0.3 could have been released awhile ago, but they pushed on. But the chipset and 4.0.3 helped out a bunch.
We want quality not quantity. So patience will be virtue
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I personally like and actually value the fact that we have NOT got the official ICS update yet. With all of the leaks being distributed its a very clear indicator that sprint/samsung still have on going development. And are really trying to refine and polish our this update before just handing it over to us. Also keep in mind that our epic touch is not the new kid on the block anymore and could quite possibly becoming to EOL soon. I mean they did get rid of the EVO 3d pretty quick and tghe epic came out shortly after that. This could very well be our last update we will ever see for our phone. So lets make it count! Lets embrace the leaks we are getting to show us what is yet to come. And lets keep a focus on a main point here and that there is active development by the manufacterer/sprint for our device and its currently on going....
What?!? ONLY 43%?!?
I hope I get to peek at this before going home, for certain that I won't after.
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Man, I don't quite get it, we've been getting leaks like crazy. How does a non standard Galaxy s2 version (the one without exynos) become the first to officially get ICS in America? Wtf Sprint and AT&T...
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GSM. Only reason.
ICS is smooth on my gf's T-Mobile GS2 even though she has at&t lol
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You answered it. There are other phones out there with the same chip in it that have ICS already, so it was easy for Sammy to use those references and drivers. On our phone Sammy had to go back to the drawing board because the Combo CDMA/Wimax is a difficult beast to get straight. Tweaks in kernel, rom and radio all need to work nicely and on our phone it is a bit of a pain. It'll come soon enough and in pretty good shape as well.
Also we are getting 4.0.4 and T-mobile only has 4.0.3 so our 4.0.3 could have been released awhile ago, but they pushed on. But the chipset and 4.0.3 helped out a bunch.
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^^ what he (she?) said. For the t-mobile version they just had to tweak the international version a bit in terms of chipset and some other minor changes. The epic touch is really a distant cousin of the gs2 family due to the gsm/wimax/notification light etc... Also sprint want's it's apps to work with it as well so that could be part of the issue.
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ICS is smooth on my gf's T-Mobile GS2 even though she has at&t lol
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unlocking for the win
morphis568 said:
^^ what he (she?) said. For the t-mobile version they just had to tweak the international version a bit in terms of chipset and some other minor changes. The epic touch is really a distant cousin of the gs2 family due to the gsm/wimax/notification light etc... Also sprint want's it's apps to work with it as well so that could be part of the issue.
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Actually, when comparing the family tree to the international version, AT&T's version comes closest, ours is next, and T-Mobile is the furthest away due to having a different cpu/gpu as well as a different modem (the 42mps HSPDA+ modem versus 21mbs on the international). Yet amazingly T-mobile's got there's out first lol.
While it's true that CDMA/Wimax typically creates the biggest delays, from the roms leaked since months ago, all of the bugs that still exists seems completely unrelated to the modem (sound bug, exchange server, etc). Since there still are bugs, I'm glad they're being worked on, but I am curious if these bugs are present in the other Galaxy S2 phones and if not, what could be causing it.
I meandered on to the development section and was quite surprised to see such recent ROMS and developers working on a cell phone that is turning 3 years old in 5 months. Many EVO buyers have had their contracts expire and are able to upgrade to a new phone. There are much faster phones out there, with better specs that are possibly more interesting to develop for, because you might reach a larger user base. My question to the Devs is why are you sticking to the original EVO? Don't get me wrong, I am a current original EVO owner myself so by all means, keep up the good work, just curious as to why you stuck to such an old device.
Simple answer is its fun! Its a great way to get practice and many devs have friends in the forum. So why walk away completely? If you still have it, you can test away on things you try to build.
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Haha, so the EVO is just a scapegoat for developers that don't want to brick their actual device?
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Haha, so the EVO is just a scapegoat for developers that don't want to brick their actual device?
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Accidental thanks :banghead: in some cases, no. But I actually have less a reason to not flash everything in sight, if you catch my drift..
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Also the EVO is, and always has been a great Device. Why walk away from it when it still viable, and as stated hellua fun. The proof is in the pudding. Look at the support, and Rom Development available
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If I could boil it down to a sentence it would be... The Evo is a great device to build for.
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4.2 on the OG is more functional than 4.2 on the Jewel. And I need the 4.2 Bluetooth stack. So . . . yeah . Thus the reason my OG is listed as Device 1 in my sig .
Hell, Devs are still working on the Samsung Moment
Sprint htc evo 4g
i bought a sprint htc evo 4g that i bought from amazon ... i cant use sprint in my country and i cant unlock a sprint phone since itc cdma right?... but can i just leave the phone like with sprint but root it and play wiith iit because the only reason i bought it was to learn everything about rooting and i needed a test device...??
There are jelly bean ROMS for the OG? Are all the radios working?
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4.2 on the OG is more functional than 4.2 on the Jewel. And I need the 4.2 Bluetooth stack. So . . . yeah . Thus the reason my OG is listed as Device 1 in my sig .
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Wow, that was released in 2009...
HipKat said:
Hell, Devs are still working on the Samsung Moment
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Sure. Since you don't have service on the phone, it's basically a really small tablet. All the basic functionality will work, and there is always WiFi.
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i bought a sprint htc evo 4g that i bought from amazon ... i cant use sprint in my country and i cant unlock a sprint phone since itc cdma right?... but can i just leave the phone like with sprint but root it and play wiith iit because the only reason i bought it was to learn everything about rooting and i needed a test device...??
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There are jelly bean ROMS for the OG? Are all the radios working?
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I'm not sure what you're asking. Please, be specific. The ROM is fully functional outside of the things that require new drivers for Android 4.x, i.e. front-facing camera, and WiMAX.
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Wow, that was released in 2009...
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Yep and over on XDA-Developers, it's the most actively dev'd device still. It was the Evo of it's time
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Yep and over on XDA-Developers, it's the most actively dev'd device still. It was the Evo of it's time
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It's actually SDX Developers...and yes the Moment was the "Evo" of it's time, sadly however, it's time has passed. I'm a new convert over to XDA from SDX, having to give last rites to my Moment a month ago. Really only one active ROM still being worked on (UberMoment 1.6 - props to TheTehk17 for hanging in there :good: ). They never got a GB Rom fully functional (CM7 was close), all dev was, and still is, Froyo. Major hardware limitations and lack of support will probably keep any further ROM upgrades forthcoming.
Inherited an OG to use for now - great to see all the work being done! Waiting for the arrival of the S4 or M7 for upgrade, until then enjoying the plethora of ROM's available!
Upon upgrade, I will be passing the OG on to any dev here who will continue to put it to good use!
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It's actually SDX Developers...and yes the Moment was the "Evo" of it's time, sadly however, it's time has passed. I'm a new convert over to XDA from SDX, having to give last rites to my Moment a month ago. Really only one active ROM still being worked on (UberMoment 1.6 - props to TheTehk17 for hanging in there :good: ). They never got a GB Rom fully functional (CM7 was close), all dev was, and still is, Froyo. Major hardware limitations and lack of support will probably keep any further ROM upgrades forthcoming.
Inherited an OG to use for now - great to see all the work being done! Waiting for the arrival of the S4 or M7 for upgrade, until then enjoying the plethora of ROM's available!
Upon upgrade, I will be passing the OG on to any dev here who will continue to put it to good use!
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lol.. brain fart
Yeah, I never thought the Moment could successfully run Froyo, unless there was a hybrid Froyo/GB Rom. I dev'd a nice ROM for the Moment, but I think I took all the links down a few months ago.
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lol.. brain fart
Yeah, I never thought the Moment could successfully run Froyo, unless there was a hybrid Froyo/GB Rom. I dev'd a nice ROM for the Moment, but I think I took all the links down a few months ago.
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The devs did a pretty good job porting over Froyo ROMs from the Intercept and Transform, and got those pretty functional. Otherwise, the phone would have been stuck on 2.1 Eclair! As mentioned, they have a somewhat working CM7 - buggy, but it does boot up.! The dev that ported that moved on leaving no one to work out the kinks.
So, for me, I'm like a kid in a candy store with not only GB Roms, but ICS, JB, AOSP.......and Sense too! Hell, I'm in hog heaven
lol. yeah, you can flash a different ROM every day for a year, going back to 2.1 if you wanted to
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lol. yeah, you can flash a different ROM every day for a year, going back to 2.1 if you wanted to
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lol - I might have to hold out on that upgrade until I get this "flashing" urge under control..........
Will be interesting to see when the S4/M7 debuts, how long it takes to get dev going on each
i'm glad dev's have kept this phone up to date its alot of fun