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Still Worth It?

So now after a few months on the market. Is this phone still worth purchasing or is there something significantly better coming along within 3 months that will blow this out of the water. If the products that are coming out are comparable I still see this as a viable option for an upgrade from the Thunderbolt (or am I insane?).
Anyways, hope to get some feedback regarding this to assist. Thanks!

Kind of hard to answer since most new phones are announced at mobile world congress which is next month. As of this second on Verizon there is nothing better. You can argue the rezound is equal with each having pros and cons but nothing is in the pipeline yet.
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staticx57 said:
Kind of hard to answer since most new phones are announced at mobile world congress which is next month. As of this second on Verizon there is nothing better. You can argue the rezound is equal with each having pros and cons but nothing is in the pipeline yet.
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This Mobile world congress convention that you mentioned. The phones that are going to be announced here will still have release dates that are months away from the actual event right? So best case those 'new' phones will be coming out ~5-6 months from now or are they actually being released to the public at this event?
If the resound is the only comparable phone, the Verizon Galaxy Nexus does indeed still sound way better (for me at least).

it depends on what your looking for, better hardware specs, pure android with great support with updates, or themed android with a lack of updates. Not saying those phones announced at CES are crappy, but if you want a phone that is guaranteed dev support/android updates then i'd recommend the Nexus. Yea they may have other phones that may beat it in hardware specs, but will those phones get the updates and the support that the nexus is and will be getting??? I seriously doubt it, not saying that they won't get support at all, but if u want the best experience of android, i'd recommend the nexus, i had the Epic 4g Touch(Galaxy S II) and i liked it, but i LOVE my nexus, it does everything i need it to, no complaints here, and the battery is great i get right at 2 days on one charge, u should get it, u won't regret it

G1-8701 said:
it depends on what your looking for, better hardware specs, pure android with great support with updates, or themed android with a lack of updates. Not saying those phones announced at CES are crappy, but if you want a phone that is guaranteed dev support/android updates then i'd recommend the Nexus. Yea they may have other phones that may beat it in hardware specs, but will those phones get the updates and the support that the nexus is and will be getting??? I seriously doubt it, not saying that they won't get support at all, but if u want the best experience of android, i'd recommend the nexus, i had the Epic 4g Touch(Galaxy S II) and i liked it, but i LOVE my nexus, it does everything i need it to, no complaints here, and the battery is great i get right at 2 days on one charge, u should get it, u won't regret it
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I am on the verge of pulling the pin and just getting it. Is the amount of development activity similar to what it was with the Nexus One (my last nexus phone)? I remember crack flashing nightly with all the goodies that were available. I took a looksey in the development forum (I will be with Verizon if I get it) and saw a few good things in there.
Are any of you guys currently running a custom ROM and if so, has the custom ROM development still in its infancy or is there some decent work being put out by all the developers (donations to custom developers are a part of the cost of the phone in my book )?

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Are any of you guys currently running a custom ROM and if so, has the custom ROM development still in its infancy or is there some decent work being put out by all the developers (donations to custom developers are a part of the cost of the phone in my book )?
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Well the difference between stock 4.0.1 and AOKP+Franco was just ridiculous.
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The Galaxy S III will probably blow the Nexus away, but who knows how long until it's released after it's announced at MWC. I don't really know the timeframes for that sort of thing.

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The Galaxy S III will probably blow the Nexus away, but who knows how long until it's released after it's announced at MWC. I don't really know the timeframes for that sort of thing.
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If I was going to buy a phone today I would still get the Galaxy Nexus. 6 Months to a year from now will of course be a different story. If you live in the United States we always seem to wait forever for the best stuff. EU seems to be ahead of us when it comes to the latest and greatest phones.
Good Luck!

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The Galaxy S III will probably blow the Nexus away, but who knows how long until it's released after it's announced at MWC. I don't really know the timeframes for that sort of thing.
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Sure, for about 9 months. Then the GN gets Jellybean, or Jello, or whatever. Meanwhile the GS3 gets a "Value Pack" which is subsequently pulled before it's even done because Samsung wants to sell the GS4 to you. Vote with your wallet, and vote for hardware which will get 2 years of support. Even if you flash, having up-to-date drivers makes it a lot easier to build custom ROM's.

case0 said:
The Galaxy S III will probably blow the Nexus away, but who knows how long until it's released after it's announced at MWC. I don't really know the timeframes for that sort of thing.
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Since you aren't living in the United States. MWC will announce Galaxy S3 and the U.S. will get it like 8 months later because each carrier wants something to "woo" their customers with exclusive features and all these small little variants of the Galaxy S3.
By the time that all comes out, it'll be launched with a old OS and Nexus 4 will be announced.
I stay committed to only Nexus devices simply because they will last longer. Especially with a great development community.
Sometimes, the community makes the phone.

[Q] Why A Nexus? Advantages of an OPEN DEVICE??

Hi guys, I have been on this forums for quite a while even though I don't own a Nexus myself. I have been browsing through the development section every day and looking at all the ROMs etc..
I know that everything is open on the Nexus, all the sources, drivers, etc. I know that the advantages of having a Nexus is stock experience, with faster updates directly from Google. But what is the advantage of having an open phone as a user? I don't find much difference between the ROMs for Galaxy S II and the ROMs for the Galaxy Nexus. In fact the Siyah kernel, i think, has many many more features than the most popular kernel on this forums, the Franco kernel.
I am not trying to spark up anything over here. I just want to know what is the benefit of having such an open phone?

Difference between being in a wheelchair in a jail cell, even a jail cell with a window and open field sunny day with your legs running however fast you can. Its like that.
let it be.

@rbiter said:
Difference between being in a wheelchair in a jail cell, even a jail cell with a window and open field sunny day with your legs running however fast you can. Its like that.
let it be.
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I would think that, but I can't see that translating to development. I mean, I must be blind to not be able to see the differences, but I really can't. I don't see any major improvements in the ROMs on the Galaxy Nexus

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I know that the advantages of having a Nexus is stock experience, with faster updates directly from Google.
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You answered your own question.

I already had 2 not Nexus Samsung phones and I will never make this mistake again. The lack of updates, the crappy skin that tries to look as the iPhone, etc.
In my experience, the builds from Google are much more stable, fast and reliable. And nothing in TouchWiz add anything that matters to me. To me Android is Nexus, I dont think I will build anything that is not Nexus again (but I really hope that HTC build the next one, I love the build quality of their phones).

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You answered your own question.
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Haha, that wasn't my question. I am not asking why the Nexus is a better device. I am asking how does opening up the sources and drivers improve on the development...

darkgoon3r96 said:
I would think that, but I can't see that translating to development. I mean, I must be blind to not be able to see the differences, but I really can't. I don't see any major improvements in the ROMs on the Galaxy Nexus
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Sorry man, but in my opinion the stock ICS on the GNexus is miles ahead of any build from the SII.

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You answered your own question.
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The difference is some stuff on aosp
Roms still don't work on galaxy s2 but everything works on aosp roms on nexus because it's open and drivers and everything is available...
bottom line aokp cm9 etc will give u a better user experience on nexus fewer bugs
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darkgoon3r96 said:
Haha, that wasn't my question. I am not asking why the Nexus is a better device. I am asking how does opening up the sources and drivers improve on the development...
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Because your Galaxy Nexus comes with stock ICS out of the box. Sorry, but a custom ROM will never be as smooth and nice as the native out of the box OS.

juliano_q said:
Sorry man, but in my opinion the stock ICS on the GNexus is miles ahead of any build from the SII.
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I still don't get why you guys think the Stock is so much better than AOKP? I mean, isn't that very similar to stock?

OK, let me see if I can answer it. I'm not a developer, so take it with a grain of salt.
The phone I had before this was the Samsung Captivate. I bought it August 2010. At the time, it was one of the more advanced phones on the market. However, within about an hour of using it, I realized that the AT&T bloatware was a problem. Though the device had a lot of memory available, the app drawer was harder to navigate because of 15 different AT&T apps on the phone, most of which charged a monthly fee to do what Google's equivalent apps did for free. So, I had to root it.
Things were fine for a couple weeks, but then I noticed that there were several apps that I couldn't download because everyone was on Froyo and I was stuck on Eclair. There was no word when either samsung or AT&T was going to provide me with an update, so I had to take matters into my own hands and get a ROM from someone else. I'm not saying the devs didn't do a good job, but they were hamstrung by both AT&T and Sammy who were not giving them the tools they needed to do the job right the first time.
I should also point out that a lot of these problems were caused by AT&T's insistence that they have their own version of the Galaxy S that was different from everyone else's. Thankfully, all the carriers learned from that mistake.
Over the course of a year and 8 months, I tried at least a dozen different ROMs on my phone to either try to keep up with the changes in the market, or just to keep it from freezing. Even stock Gingerbread had problems, likely because it was rushed out. I finally found a stable build in a ROM that used ICS (ironically, ported from the GNex). So that meant, if not for the great work of Team ICSSGS, my Captivate would NEVER have been a stable phone. All those commercials about being a smartphone beta tester seemed to be designed with the Captivate in mind.
The point of all this: When it came time for me to get a new phone, I was considering waiting for the GSIII, but then Google offered the GNex off contract for $400, a not unreasonable price for the hardware at all, but what I was really paying for was getting off the treadmill. Now granted, at this point I've only had the phone for about a week, but it performs every function I need it to, and AT&T has no say in it. Samsung only had a say in the hardware. And that's how it should be, and honestly why I think Apple had such a marketing edge for such a long time. Apple told AT&T exactly where they can shove their customizations, and now we have Google doing the same, but not publicizing it enough.
TL;DR: Google experience and faster updates. But those are more valuable than you think.

darkgoon3r96 said:
I still don't get why you guys think the Stock is so much better than AOKP? I mean, isn't that very similar to stock?
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You just answered yourself... great roms/builds like aokp would not be possible without the Android Open Source Project. Even after saying that the quality on aosp devices running aokp like the gnex and ns are miles ahead of say the sensation or something along those lines due to the very face the the nexus phones have open source readily available.
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The open let's you literally change ans re-code any part of the device you want. A touch wiz phone cannot do this cause the code is closed.
Custom roms on other devices are not the same though you may think they are. Most of the time something doesn't work cause it relies on a closed touch wiz framework function that has to be reverse engineered or hacked, or usually never works at all..
You need the kernel source code to really make any legit custom rom, and often have to wait months foe it to be released.
With an open device, you literally can implement anything your imagination can cone up with. No bugs or work a rounds.

In my opinion, there are two major differences:
1. On a Nexus device, you are guaranteed a large developer community. The SGSII may have a large developer community, but that's because it's pretty much of the most popular phones. If you buy something like the Samsung Galaxy Infuse (which several of my friends have) then you won't have nearly as big a developer community as the one for the Galaxy Nexus.
2. It's much much easier to root/customize/flash a Nexus device than any other device. All you need is "fastboot oem unlock" and the phone opens up for you. No need for bootloader downgrading/rooting exploits/HTCDev/manufacturer restrictions. This phone is designed to be a developer device. Also, when you screw up a Nexus, it is much easier to solve problems. Phone not booting? Use CWM. Recovery borked? Fastboot. Fastboot not working? ODIN flash. Lots of fail-safes.

Thanks a lot guys for taking the time just to help me out

I got my gnex last wednesday. No regrets at all, it's an amazing phone. My next phone will definitely be another nexus.

Advantage of having a Nexus?
It is like Burger King, you can have it your own way.

I'm back! Sold my sIII

just traded my galaxy s 3 for galaxy nexus plus 280 dollars. Running jelly bean 4.1 .1 on verizon network . I feel like a heroin addict I just got shot up. I could not definitely wait for the update on the galaxy s 3 to get jelly bean. Best decision I've made. So happy. guess I'll wait for the galaxy nexus 4. Cheers see you guys around
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I'm doing the same thing tomorrow. Love the S3, but the bootloader issue is a deal breaker.
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LOL And here I thought I was bad at deciding what phone I want
Hey, I'm glad you are happy, in the end that's really what matters, no matter how good or bad the phone is, if you are happy with it, then everything else is irrelevant. Maybe that's how all the iSheep feel like!

Lol.
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I bought a refurb SIII and base on how it is I will decide to keep the Nexus or sell it. What factors made your decision to go back to the Nexus?
tsnstuff said:
Maybe that's how all the iSheep feel like!
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Until they walk on the other side with the greener grass.

Yes, I disabled all the bloatware on my s 3. But I still can't get over the fact you can't put apps in folders . I love the simplicity of the nexus. I love jelly bean. Actually even prefer the size to the nexus.
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Fstall303 said:
just traded my galaxy s 3 for galaxy nexus plus 280 dollars
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WAYNE?! :banghead:

that bootloader issue is the same that me and many others had when the first atrix was released, it was annoying seeing others flashing roms and i'm stuck with a great phone with potential but a locked bootloader. Then by the time they finally unlocked the bootloader most devs/users had abandoned the device and it hardly got any support. But anyways, i kept my Nexus(that i bought a month after launch) and bought an iphone 4s about 2 months ago, i love it, its a great device and iOS is a lot better than what people been saying about it, but after flashing JB then trying AOKP milestone 6 made me realize how much i miss my Nexus. The SGSIII was never a factor to me(i really don't like the design, plus touchwiz is not one of my favs coming from a SGSII to a Nexus). Also another small reason that i decided to try the iphone is because every phone will get the latest update(unless it's outdated like the very first iphone) and that plays a huge role when i buy phones due to the fact i would like a phone that'll get the latest updates or at least great dev support, cause i wouldn't wanna have to buy another phone due to the fact that it won't be getting upcoming updates, or the devs abandoned it......

Fstall303 said:
Yes, I disabled all the bloatware on my s 3. But I still can't get over the fact you can't put apps in folders . I love the simplicity of the nexus. I love jelly bean. Actually even prefer the size to the nexus.
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Not disagreeing about going from gs3 to gnex because I did the same thing, but you can absolutely put apps in folders on the gs3. You just can't drop an app onto another on the home screen, you have to hit the menu button first and then create a folder into which you can then add any apps you want and then rename the folder.
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G1-8701 said:
that bootloader issue is the same that me and many others had when the first atrix was released, it was annoying seeing others flashing roms and i'm stuck with a great phone with potential but a locked bootloader. Then by the time they finally unlocked the bootloader most devs/users had abandoned the device and it hardly got any support. But anyways, i kept my Nexus(that i bought a month after launch) and bought an iphone 4s about 2 months ago, i love it, its a great device and iOS is a lot better than what people been saying about it, but after flashing JB then trying AOKP milestone 6 made me realize how much i miss my Nexus. The SGSIII was never a factor to me(i really don't like the design, plus touchwiz is not one of my favs coming from a SGSII to a Nexus). Also another small reason that i decided to try the iphone is because every phone will get the latest update(unless it's outdated like the very first iphone) and that plays a huge role when i buy phones due to the fact i would like a phone that'll get the latest updates or at least great dev support, cause i wouldn't wanna have to buy another phone due to the fact that it won't be getting upcoming updates, or the devs abandoned it......
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...Where does the iPhone fit into this conversation?

G1-8701 said:
that bootloader issue is the same that me and many others had when the first atrix was released, it was annoying seeing others flashing roms and i'm stuck with a great phone with potential but a locked bootloader. Then by the time they finally unlocked the bootloader most devs/users had abandoned the device and it hardly got any support. But anyways, i kept my Nexus(that i bought a month after launch) and bought an iphone 4s about 2 months ago, i love it, its a great device and iOS is a lot better than what people been saying about it, but after flashing JB then trying AOKP milestone 6 made me realize how much i miss my Nexus. The SGSIII was never a factor to me(i really don't like the design, plus touchwiz is not one of my favs coming from a SGSII to a Nexus). Also another small reason that i decided to try the iphone is because every phone will get the latest update(unless it's outdated like the very first iphone) and that plays a huge role when i buy phones due to the fact i would like a phone that'll get the latest updates or at least great dev support, cause i wouldn't wanna have to buy another phone due to the fact that it won't be getting upcoming updates, or the devs abandoned it......
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Dont kid yourself with the whole my iphone will always get the latest updates stuff. Sure you will get an update, but that update will only give all the new features and bells and whistles to the newest iphone. I have owned several iphones and the problems with their updates is that they design them to be compatible with all the phones but that doesnt mean they run great on all the phones. I remember when i had the Iphone 3g and they came out with the 4.0 update, it made the phone so unbearably slow that everyone with that phone had to revert back to 3.0. Apple even just announced that the 3gs which they are still selling in stores wont get most of the features of the 6.0 update.

just saying how i came back to the Nexus too, its all relevant to the topic

Did not know that! Either way still completely satisfied with my nexus
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A Nexus plus $280?
Not a bad payoff there.

I love my nexus but having owned a 4s out of morbid curiosity for a whole 2 weeks I have to say if I could have 1 thing iOS has on android it would be the ability to back up my phone like they do. I know we have tools and various apps we can use but that's the one and only thing that impressed me was to be able to back up your phone wipe it, and restore everything with one click. Other than that there is no way I will ever own another. They are worse than a Motorola on Verizon.
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I Am Marino said:
A Nexus plus $280?
Not a bad payoff there.
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Yes plus 280 + extended life battery and case!
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Dont kid yourself with the whole my iphone will always get the latest updates stuff. Sure you will get an update, but that update will only give all the new features and bells and whistles to the newest iphone. I have owned several iphones and the problems with their updates is that they design them to be compatible with all the phones but that doesnt mean they run great on all the phones. I remember when i had the Iphone 3g and they came out with the 4.0 update, it made the phone so unbearably slow that everyone with that phone had to revert back to 3.0. Apple even just announced that the 3gs which they are still selling in stores wont get most of the features of the 6.0 update.
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i kno that, i'm not the type that would hold on to a phone that long to be that far behind as a 3g, i was saying in general, compared to android which is not always guaranteed an update, and no i'm not bashing android, i been using android since the G1 and definitely a huge android fan, just wanted to try something different for a change, but u do have a point though

eksasol said:
What factors made your decision to go back to the Nexus?"
Honestly the single biggest reason I switch back was because the lock bootloader and no jelly bean . I figure by the time the update jelly bean there gonna be released the galaxy nexus 4 and a new os or update anyway. 2. i hated S voice. 3.the size difference between 4.65 and 4.8 I just hope it's 3 was just too big and the nexus is felt better my hand . The nexus just felt better and the texture as well. 4. I know I only had it for a day but I just didn't like the physical keys, I love the on screen keys. 5. I think it's a better looking phone.
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Lol I called out that you will start seeing people coming back lol!

good move........

Dammit HTC and Verizon!

OK everybody this thread has gotten way off topic while waiting for our OTA update which is supposed to be "tomorrow" (if you're confused just read a few pages) This thread now is a place for us to joke around, slander Verizon and talk about DIX

Triscuit said:
I just noticed that HTC released OTA ICS for the rezound and a couple others, I'm really hoping this means we will be next in line for OTA cause we all know what that means!!! Figured I'd give you guys a heads up.
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Or they'll announce that we don't get it... But hopefully what you said.

gtdtm said:
Or they'll announce that we don't get it... But hopefully what you said.
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Well HTC claimed we would get it june-july but obviously that didn't happen...so yes hopefully what I said lol

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Also this was posted about a week ago

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Also this was posted about a week ago
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I know this just shows the pessimist in me (or what I feel about VZW's track record, because I think it would be more them than HTC), but also from that blog:
"For more background, due to how storage on the HTC Desire HD is partitioned – and the larger size of Android 4.0 – it would require re-partitioning device storage and overwriting user data in order to install this update. While technically advanced users might find this solution acceptable, the majority of customers would not. We also considered ways to reduce the overall size of the software package, but this would impact features and functionality that customers are currently using. Even after installing the update, there were other technical limitations which we felt negatively impacted the user experience."
Is Verizon willing to lose some stupid bundled apps to make sure it can fit on our Dinc2? I imagine they could save plenty of space by not bundling NFL Mobile, etc...
My 2 cents.

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I know this just shows the pessimist in me (or what I feel about VZW's track record, because I think it would be more them than HTC), but also from that blog:
"For more background, due to how storage on the HTC Desire HD is partitioned – and the larger size of Android 4.0 – it would require re-partitioning device storage and overwriting user data in order to install this update. While technically advanced users might find this solution acceptable, the majority of customers would not. We also considered ways to reduce the overall size of the software package, but this would impact features and functionality that customers are currently using. Even after installing the update, there were other technical limitations which we felt negatively impacted the user experience."
Is Verizon willing to lose some stupid bundled apps to make sure it can fit on our Dinc2? I imagine they could save plenty of space by not bundling NFL Mobile, etc...
My 2 cents.
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Seriously? Show me one damn person that uses that bloatware that comes bundled, I know I don't. Silly Verizon. :banghead:

Thanks?
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Triscuit said:
Well HTC claimed we would get it june-july but obviously that didn't happen...so yes hopefully what I said lol
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Do you have a link to when they said June or July?
The only eta I ever read was August... I don't think we have anything to worry about personally, but only time will tell. I don't really care as long as they release kernel source for at least one of the other variations of the dinc2 that already has official ics. I have given up on sense roms anyways since I switched to ics.
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cstone1991 said:
Do you have a link to when they said June or July?
The only eta I ever read was August... I don't think we have anything to worry about personally, but only time will tell. I don't really care as long as they release kernel source for at least one of the other variations of the dinc2 that already has official ics. I have given up on sense roms anyways since I switched to ics.
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http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
And you are correct as well as they have both "june-july" and August lol

is it august yet? go go go go

We still need 3.0 kernel source.
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xHoLyx said:
We still need 3.0 kernel source.
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Bah! This is the same old speculation that we are doing... Just wait it out, and see... Hopefully good news. Let's rant/rage if and when VZW screws us over... but till then just chill gang!

litetaker said:
Bah! This is the same old speculation that we are doing... Just wait it out, and see... Hopefully good news. Let's rant/rage if and when VZW screws us over... but till then just chill gang!
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^^Exactly^^ I'm willing to wait it out, I've got jelly bean on my phone already and its awesome.

They've already released ics for the Chinese or whatever it was version, so don't they need to give kernel source for that even if we don't get it?
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prototype7 said:
They've already released ics for the Chinese or whatever it was version, so don't they need to give kernel source for that even if we don't get it?
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Yes.....eventually

prototype7 said:
They've already released ics for the Chinese or whatever it was version, so don't they need to give kernel source for that even if we don't get it?
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kernel source from oem's is a murky proposition at best....ideally source would be available as soon as an update is out, but htc hides behind their typical (90-120 days after release) window....though (thunderbolt gb update) they have released source on the same day as an update
i have no idea why they pull this, since theres nothing to change/add to the kernel since its already released, but there isnt much to do on our end...short of suing them
so idk

gtdtm said:
I know this just shows the pessimist in me (or what I feel about VZW's track record, because I think it would be more them than HTC), but also from that blog:
"For more background, due to how storage on the HTC Desire HD is partitioned – and the larger size of Android 4.0 – it would require re-partitioning device storage and overwriting user data in order to install this update. While technically advanced users might find this solution acceptable, the majority of customers would not. We also considered ways to reduce the overall size of the software package, but this would impact features and functionality that customers are currently using. Even after installing the update, there were other technical limitations which we felt negatively impacted the user experience."
Is Verizon willing to lose some stupid bundled apps to make sure it can fit on our Dinc2? I imagine they could save plenty of space by not bundling NFL Mobile, etc...
My 2 cents.
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Well for one DesireHD is not the Incredible S/2. Second, it's not about your or me or this site it's about the larger customer base so HTC is acting in best interest of their own company to not release something that could make a lot (more than here, rootz, ac, etc) of people pissed off. Always keep in mind we are the smaller,much smaller, segment of a larger industry.

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Well for one DesireHD is not the Incredible S/2. Second, it's not about your or me or this site it's about the larger customer base so HTC is acting in best interest of their own company to not release something that could make a lot (more than here, rootz, ac, etc) of people pissed off. Always keep in mind we are the smaller,much smaller, segment of a larger industry.
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Also keep on mind that that larger user base usually doesn't know what software version their phone has and they probably think GB is the latest since their phone says up to date if they check under software updates. It's true that we're a smaller segment of a larger group, but we're the ones that keep up with this kind of stuff and actually care about updates on time. Other users could care less as long as their phone gets the job done.
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frankspin said:
Well for one DesireHD is not the Incredible S/2. Second, it's not about your or me or this site it's about the larger customer base so HTC is acting in best interest of their own company to not release something that could make a lot (more than here, rootz, ac, etc) of people pissed off. Always keep in mind we are the smaller,much smaller, segment of a larger industry.
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I get that, but don't promise something you can't deliver... It turns me off of both HTC and vzw more than if they would have said, "we'll research it and see if we can."

gtdtm said:
I get that, but don't promise something you can't deliver... It turns me off of both HTC and vzw more than if they would have said, "we'll research it and see if we can."
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Well Verizon or HTC haven't said anything about the Inc2 since the initial memo. Again going by e DesireHD is wrong since its not the same phone. Verizon or HTC saying "well research and see" would still cause you to be mad. If the IncS got it the Inc2 should be getting it they're identical phones for the most part.

New leaked marshmallow schedule

http://www.slashgear.com/galaxy-s6-...ollout-leaked-with-updated-schedule-25424189/

Oh good, will have to wait to February now. Samsung is getting much worse with it's updates!

Fake!

Maybe it's fake but it's 25 of January and still nothing from Samsung except the beta testing....

In my opinion, Samsung still developing the android 6.0 or probably will jump directly to 6.0.1.. Since the new version of android is very vital to the user, Samsung has to make sure the new one is better than the previous one. Remember a lot of issues when upgrading from KitKat to Lollipop such as overheat in Galaxy S5. It seems Samsung is avoid the same mistakes again. If the information is correct, we shall going to enjoy the update in couple weeks..

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In my opinion, Samsung still developing the android 6.0 or probably will jump directly to 6.0.1.. Since the new version of android is very vital to the user, Samsung has to make sure the new one is better than the previous one. Remember a lot of issues when upgrading from KitKat to Lollipop such as overheat in Galaxy S5. It seems Samsung is avoid the same mistakes again. If the information is correct, we shall going to enjoy the update in couple weeks..
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you do realize s6/edge already have 6.0.1 beta right? So we don't need your opinion on what samsung is developing, because we already know that and as for the "new one is better than the previous one" statement I must say it's total bull**** and please stop defending samsung like they're some kind of a saint. Difference between lollipop and marshmallow is way to insignificant for them to need 5 months or more to release an update for their flagship line that costs an arm and a leg. And checking the 6.0.1 beta on s6/e, there's not much changed.. plus they had how much time if we count the release of marshmallow beta? Their competition already updated their flagships AND last gen flagships.. my dads LG G3 and moms HTC M8 both have marshmallow, and YES they BOTH perform much better than they did on lollipop. Especially the M8, which now runs much smoother than my s6e+.
Don't get me wrong, I love the hardware of the phone, but software wise samsung is still terrible, PLUS they suck with updates.
Right now it really just looks like that they will stall with the update until S7 is announced or maybe even released... beacuse business reasons I guess.

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you do realize s6/edge already have 6.0.1 beta right? So we don't need your opinion on what samsung is developing, because we already know that and as for the "new one is better than the previous one" statement I must say it's total bull**** and please stop defending samsung like they're some kind of a saint. Difference between lollipop and marshmallow is way to insignificant for them to need 5 months or more to release an update for their flagship line that costs an arm and a leg. And checking the 6.0.1 beta on s6/e, there's not much changed.. plus they had how much time if we count the release of marshmallow beta? Their competition already updated their flagships AND last gen flagships.. my dads LG G3 and moms HTC M8 both have marshmallow, and YES they BOTH perform much better than they did on lollipop. Especially the M8, which now runs much smoother than my s6e+.
Don't get me wrong, I love the hardware of the phone, but software wise samsung is still terrible, PLUS they suck with updates.
Right now it really just looks like that they will stall with the update until S7 is announced or maybe even released... beacuse business reasons I guess.
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Just because of lack of updates comparing with the others doesn't means it comes bad.. Don't you realize that a lot of manufactures also have not applied marshmallow in their handset.. If you really want a quick update in your phone, then you can switch to another manufacture that give it like you just said. I don't defend samsung like a saint, but I am trying to be more realistic with the condition.

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Just because of lack of updates comparing with the others doesn't means it comes bad.. Don't you realize that a lot of manufactures also have not applied marshmallow in their handset.. If you really want a quick update in your phone, then you can switch to another manufacture that give it like you just said. I don't defend samsung like a saint, but I am trying to be more realistic with the condition.
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I know a lot of manufactures didn't update yet, but the main competition did, and samsung is just not giving enough effort into updating their software. I also completely understand that the majority of users simply don't care about updates, but why wouldn't they also please advanced users. I mean they could totally have released a beta update for the s6e+ and note 5 when they released it for s6/e and it would please me and all the other eager users, but now I feel punished for paying 300+ € over the s6. Even the S5 had some marhmallow "leaks".

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I know a lot of manufactures didn't update yet, but the main competition did, and samsung is just not giving enough effort into updating their software. I also completely understand that the majority of users simply don't care about updates, but why wouldn't they also please advanced users. I mean they could totally have released a beta update for the s6e+ and note 5 when they released it for s6/e and it would please me and all the other eager users, but now I feel punished for paying 300+ € over the s6. Even the S5 had some marhmallow "leaks".
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If you really want Fast updates then get Iphone or Nexus device next time. simple as that.

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If you really want Fast updates then get Iphone or Nexus device next time. simple as that.
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Wow, i can't speak for everyone but I would like the update so my phone will work properly. I have poor reception on my phone, i cant really talk on my phone, get good internet connection, and have issues sending messages. I was advised by my wireless carrier and samsung, that the Marshmallow update would correct said problems. So maybe if they sold phones that worked properly out of the box, some of us wouldn't be crying for updates

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If you really want Fast updates then get Iphone or Nexus device next time. simple as that.
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I would if nexus 6p would have been released by the time I was buying the phone. Actually it's still not available in Slovenia, only 5x is, 6p is coming end of January/early February, and yes, I am considering switching with someone 1 for 1 for a nexus 6p when they will be available, even if it's 250€ cheaper. And I don't really consider it being "fast updates" for expecting an update 5 months after the release of the software by google.
Funny thing is that I'm arguing about software updates on xda forums.. correct me, but no one is developing hardware on this forum or are they?

Its ready when it ready. Having seen the beta on the S6 I dont think we are missing much, its almost exactly the same.
Im never in a big hurry to get Android updates, a new version is always buggy for at least 3 to 4 months anyway, and as yet there has been no real bug fix for 6. After being burned by Googles own devices on every launch version since 4.2, I'm happy to wait for Google to fix its mess before Samsung jump on it.
Much of the reason why OEM devices are slower to update is that Android contains a lot of bugs, which the OEMs want to minimise before they release. Google dont care so much about the Nexus, if its buggy its buggy, the OEMs dont want that though.

it's all BS.... This is my last Samsung phone. They have no respect at all for their costumers. I hope hope the Dutch law suit against them , screws them where they deserve.

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Its ready when it ready. Having seen the beta on the S6 I dont think we are missing much, its almost exactly the same.
Im never in a big hurry to get Android updates, a new version is always buggy for at least 3 to 4 months anyway, and as yet there has been no real bug fix for 6. After being burned by Googles own devices on every launch version since 4.2, I'm happy to wait for Google to fix its mess before Samsung jump on it.
Much of the reason why OEM devices are slower to update is that Android contains a lot of bugs, which the OEMs want to minimise before they release. Google dont care so much about the Nexus, if its buggy its buggy, the OEMs dont want that though.
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Well said... People are always complaining about the delayed updates but if an update cames out with bugs they complain also... This makes me laugh... Aren't your phones working?
Before Lollipop was released everyone was complaining and when it cames out i saw a lot of them returning to KK... if you all say the difference is minimal so what's the hurry?

They need to slim down the touchwiz stuff which may speed up the update times
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It's a fake. Don't believe in Ss. I buy an s6e+ for 1000$ in my country and still now there's no update. I think i'm gonna go back to iphone for the ip 6+ @@

people going to be really upset when they find out theres not much different between 5.11 and 6.

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people going to be really upset when they find out theres not much different between 5.11 and 6.
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I only want Doze to save battery life, am not bothered about the other Android 6 features.
if samsung make there UI skin more like iOS then am happy to.

on my nexus 7 with marshmallow battery on standby is brill but screen time just normal

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