[Q] is xperia play 2 really coming.. - Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys,
I just want another phone, I have got PS VITA but I cud not carry it everywhere daily, I was thinking abt buying xperia play, but read somewhere that xperia play 2 might b released soon..
What u guys suggest?
EDIT: I purchased XPERIA PLAY !!
Will see if PLAY2 will come or not !!!
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I would probably get an xperia play (used). if you really want a play 2 you can sell your used xperia play for roughly the same amount you bought it for (i got mine for $150 usd). Honestly i won't know what a play 2 will have to offer. Cause xperia play 1 can already emulate PS1 and n64. I highly doubt we'll ever get ps2 emulation anytime soon since PC has trouble emulating that... So yeah you'll just be able to play some 3rd party android apps a little bit faster.

xperiax10.awesome said:
Hi guys,
I just want another phone, I have got PS VITA but I cud not carry it everywhere daily, I was thinking abt buying xperia play, but read somewhere that xperia play 2 might b released soon..
What u guys suggest?
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I wouldn't worry about an Xperia Play 2 any time soon

Atarii said:
I wouldn't worry about an Xperia Play 2 any time soon
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Agreed. I'm gonna stick with my Xperia Play cause there's some awesome games that have been released for it.
King Of Fighters FTW !

And I read that they won't release a Play2, it only makes sense for Sony since they would 'lose' money from the emulators. So I bought the Play anyway despite I coud have saved the money for the Galaxy S III.

eksasol said:
And I read that they won't release a Play2, it only makes sense for Sony since they would 'lose' money from the emulators. So I bought the Play anyway despite I coud have saved the money for the Galaxy S III.
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Nice move

IF (and its a big IF) a Play 2 is coming its at least a year away. Sony has already said they are NOT working on it yet. So I would not base my decision on that thing showing up. They may never even make one.

Every time i adhere more to TLRTheory's... Well, theory: the Xperia Play is a growing gaming platform on its own, so we shouldn't only consider it as an emulator + phone, or an Onlive controller + phone, but it has a good catalog of Android games optimized for it as well.

Sony would have to release Xperia Play 2 at some point cuase games size and quality are just getting better and wont work on the Single Core CPU plus the lack of memory..
i think every1 are willing to wait for XPeria Play 2 with good specs and larger screen

TDMaster said:
Sony would have to release Xperia Play 2 at some point cuase games size and quality are just getting better and wont work on the Single Core CPU plus the lack of memory..
i think every1 are willing to wait for XPeria Play 2 with good specs and larger screen
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actually im not waiting for an xplay 2 im perfectly happy with it currently.
i also would not buy it if it had a larger screen as it ruins the point of it being an xperia play you might as well carry a vita if the screen was any bigger.
also specs dont bother me really i know you need them to run more demanding games but its working perfectly at the moment isnt it. dont fix it if it aint broken and we have a good year left of it not being broken

bouncynemoss said:
I would probably get an xperia play (used). if you really want a play 2 you can sell your used xperia play for roughly the same amount you bought it for (i got mine for $150 usd). Honestly i won't know what a play 2 will have to offer. Cause xperia play 1 can already emulate PS1 and n64. I highly doubt we'll ever get ps2 emulation anytime soon since PC has trouble emulating that... So yeah you'll just be able to play some 3rd party android apps a little bit faster.
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WHY DO PEOPLE THINK THIS?
The original PS2 had a 294MHz CPU but worked well because the software was designed around the hardware properly. Computers 100x as powerful will still struggle to emulate a PS2 game because they are not optimized for specific hardware or designed by the original manufacturers of the software (Sony) meaning they have to create drivers for basic things to work and then optimize them over time and also emulate the architecture of the systems CPU.
The new smartphone CPU's are powerful but the software is not optimized for them so performance can be slow.
The reason the PS1 emulator works for our phones is because optimized for the CPU/GPU combo, a PS2 emulator could do exactly the same thing on our phone now, if sony made an optimized emulator

Rogue Leader said:
IF (and its a big IF) a Play 2 is coming its at least a year away. Sony has already said they are NOT working on it yet. So I would not base my decision on that thing showing up. They may never even make one.
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That's not true, I remember seeing an interview with one of the heads of Sony Ericsson before they got bought over talking about what is going to happen after the buyout and one of the questions was will you release an xperia play 2 and he said, if my memory severs me right, that we are happy with sales and are working towards a 2nd.

ff7fan4eva said:
WHY DO PEOPLE THINK THIS?
The original PS2 had a 294MHz CPU but worked well because the software was designed around the hardware properly. Computers 100x as powerful will still struggle to emulate a PS2 game because they are not optimized for specific hardware or designed by the original manufacturers of the software (Sony) meaning they have to create drivers for basic things to work and then optimize them over time and also emulate the architecture of the systems CPU.
The new smartphone CPU's are powerful but the software is not optimized for them so performance can be slow.
The reason the PS1 emulator works for our phones is because optimized for the CPU/GPU combo, a PS2 emulator could do exactly the same thing on our phone now, if sony made an optimized emulator
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We've been over this before. The hardware of the PS2 is much more complicated than megahertz and megabytes. It has a very complex architecture that is very difficult to emulate. What takes the PS2 1 clock tick to do takes a cpu/gpu 10 ticks. There is also concurrent processing going on inside PS2 that rely on specific timing that makes emulation even more difficult.
Long story short, a PS2 emulator will never happen for this phone. It just isn't going to happen. It has nothing to do with "optimizing" the emulator, and everything to do with the ps2 hardware being emulated.

crono141 said:
We've been over this before. The hardware of the PS2 is much more complicated than megahertz and megabytes. It has a very complex architecture that is very difficult to emulate. What takes the PS2 1 clock tick to do takes a cpu/gpu 10 ticks. There is also concurrent processing going on inside PS2 that rely on specific timing that makes emulation even more difficult.
Long story short, a PS2 emulator will never happen for this phone. It just isn't going to happen. It has nothing to do with "optimizing" the emulator, and everything to do with the ps2 hardware being emulated.
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I agree.
Hell, even emulating the Sega Saturn is difficult. The PS2 would be a whole different ball game
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PS2 Emulation
WHY DO PEOPLE THINK THIS?
The original PS2 had a 294MHz CPU but worked well because the software was designed around the hardware properly. Computers 100x as powerful will still struggle to emulate a PS2 game because they are not optimized for specific hardware or designed by the original manufacturers of the software (Sony) meaning they have to create drivers for basic things to work and then optimize them over time and also emulate the architecture of the systems CPU.
The new smartphone CPU's are powerful but the software is not optimized for them so performance can be slow.
The reason the PS1 emulator works for our phones is because optimized for the CPU/GPU combo, a PS2 emulator could do exactly the same thing on our phone now, if sony made an optimized emulator.
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What we are forgetting is that even the PS3 doesn't have flawless PS2 emulation. I am a late adopter to the PS3 but I have read around about people sayin only some PS2 games work on a PS3.
Now if Sony with all their money, resources and patents are struggling to produce emulation (to the point they stopped it) for the PS2 it means probably that it's a real ***** to emulate even with certified Sony hardware/software.
PSX games though work fine apparently but I am yet to try out Tekken and tell you.

Inferno986return said:
What we are forgetting is that even the PS3 doesn't have flawless PS2 emulation. I am a late adopter to the PS3 but I have read around about people sayin only some PS2 games work on a PS3.
Now if Sony with all their money, resources and patents are struggling to produce emulation (to the point they stopped it) for the PS2 it means probably that it's a real ***** to emulate even with certified Sony hardware/software.
PSX games though work fine apparently but I am yet to try out Tekken and tell you.
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I thought they stopped the PS2 backward compatibility so they could make more money off ported PS2 games?

Don't worry, future console won't have the ability to play used game and won't sport optical drives.

eksasol said:
Don't worry, future console won't have the ability to play used game and won't sport optical drives.
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Seriously! That's BS though, how will be able to play any DVD or Blu-ray discs if Sony have discontinued the optical slot. That's atrocious!
And no wonder why stores like GAME and Gamestation which survived only on tangible media are failing because many of us have diversified to Steam and the PS store.
I thought they stopped the PS2 backward compatibility so they could make more money off ported PS2 games?
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They probably have but many games which were amazing on the PS2 have yet to see HD branding including the GTA collection (III,VC,SA), the Tony Hawk collection (THUG,THUG2,THAW) and the James Bond collection (Agent under Fire, NightFire, Everything or Nothing).
To summarise both I would say Sony aren't going the best way with this, at least Microsoft made the Xbox somewhat compatible. Anyway I have enough thread derailing for now, back onto the Xperia Play 2 which could be really awesome if Sony play their cards right!

ff7fan4eva said:
WHY DO PEOPLE THINK THIS?
The original PS2 had a 294MHz CPU but worked well because the software was designed around the hardware properly. Computers 100x as powerful will still struggle to emulate a PS2 game because they are not optimized for specific hardware or designed by the original manufacturers of the software (Sony) meaning they have to create drivers for basic things to work and then optimize them over time and also emulate the architecture of the systems CPU.
The new smartphone CPU's are powerful but the software is not optimized for them so performance can be slow.
The reason the PS1 emulator works for our phones is because optimized for the CPU/GPU combo, a PS2 emulator could do exactly the same thing on our phone now, if sony made an optimized emulator
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I agree optimisation is definitely key and with smartphone specifications getting increasingly better we could see some really demanding and powerful games running on the Xperia Play at a decent framerate (the thread in the PCSX2 forum showed Grand Turismo 4 as a very demanding game and apparently never ran at full speed even on the console it was designed for).
Hold on! How do you emulate PlayStation games on an Xperia Play with the lack of L1, R2? And how will we be able to emulate PlayStation 2 games with a lack of L1, R2, L3 and R3?
I also hope that Sony are smart with specs and throw in Tegra 3 and 2GB RAM to keep everything silky smooth. All though they probably won't because of concerns over battery life <sigh>.

Inferno986return said:
Hold on! How do you emulate PlayStation games on an Xperia Play with the lack of L1, R2? And how will we be able to emulate PlayStation 2 games with a lack of L1, R2, L3 and R3?
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I use the L button for L1, the R button for R1, the left volume key for L2, the right volume key for R2, the Back button for L3 and the Search button for R3, and it works quite nicely

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xperia play psp games?

why has no one tried to port psp to xperia play i know there are like a million games id love to play and if a 333mhz processor can play awesome games im sure a 1GHZ processer could emulate those games or something comon throw me a bone
OMG Have you even tried to use the search function? This has been asked so often and the answhere stays NOOOOOOOOOOOO! PSP Games are not open source so unly the original devs could do that but they wont becouse PSP games cost about 30$ and android games much less. Got it?
psxpetey said:
why has no one tried to port psp to xperia play i know there are like a million games id love to play and if a 333mhz processor can play awesome games im sure a 1GHZ processer could emulate those games or something comon throw me a bone
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Sure. Fetch.
So do you think a pentium 1 that is more that 333 mhz can play psp games?
Mhz means nothing.
a pentium computer need to emulate all the cpu instruction.... I think that a arm cpu (like these in our smartphone) will be more appropriate to emulate the psp wich use the same type of instruction.... so must of the cpu instruction don't have to be converted to something else.... The dreamcast is in the same case....
Where sony may have some trouble... is how the psp use 2 chip to do the job.... the interaction between the media engine and the cpu is more complex then what you may think.... and with only one chip(current smartphone), that interaction is pretty hard to reproduce/emulate...
my bad i forgot it was dualcore and watnot and i searched after i posted i delete this shortly
i belive that in less than 3 years, smartphones will run psp games, likes running psOne games now
Why would you need PSP games, when you can play PC games?
The button layout is quite the same, so it's easier to play PSP games.
I wonder why Sony doesn't port Loco Roco to mobile... It was successful, and the whole concept is easily translatable not only to Xperia Play but to any gyroscope-toting device.
gohanks10 said:
i belive that in less than 3 years, smartphones will run psp games, likes running psOne games now
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less then 3 years?? i predict 2012, with tegra 3 already here with its 12 core GPU and other CPU manufacturers not wanting to be to behind for long quad core will be more common place and should be able to emulate PSP games, maybe even dreamcast......
couldnt agree more, it would be the best game we have! same applies for rolando on iphone, all it needs is the shoulder buttons to rotate
the sad thing about android is the games for the most part blow or are obvious cheap ripoffs iphone has amazing games and all the awesome old games are being ported to it like warrior within and raptor call of the shadows
Logseman said:
The button layout is quite the same, so it's easier to play PSP games.
I wonder why Sony doesn't port Loco Roco to mobile... It was successful, and the whole concept is easily translatable not only to Xperia Play but to any gyroscope-toting device.
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funny how you say that
Loco Roco Midnight Carnival for Xperia Play (Vid/Tut/Caps)
Well think about it.. Even PSX emulation isn't perfect on the Play, what makes you think PSP would run any better?
Maison Looi said:
funny how you say that
Loco Roco Midnight Carnival for Xperia Play (Vid/Tut/Caps)
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I didn't know it was available but it's only for Japan, it seems
psxpetey said:
the sad thing about android is the games for the most part blow or are obvious cheap ripoffs iphone has amazing games and all the awesome old games are being ported to it like warrior within and raptor call of the shadows
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Many of the games are nearly identical between Android and iPhone, there are tons of great games for it. Yes iPhone has more, but you also have to use touch controls which suck.
The PS Suite will be out in a month or so for this phone with tons of PSX ports, This phone is by far a better gaming device.
PS I loved Raptor: Call of the Shadows, but it was hardly any sort of super blockbuster A title. Awesome old games (like Sonic CD, GTA 3, etc) have been ported to both at the same time, and they are better on Android
I <3 Raptor too... Retro gaming FTW!

Should I get the Play?

I have always wanted an Android gaming handheld. At first I was looking at the generic chinese handhelds to play on, but I decided against it (too many problems,poor quality).Then I remembered about the Xperia Play.
I want to play N64, GBA, SNES (for sure). And the occasional 3D android game eg. Frisbee Forever, Cut the Rope, Fruit Ninja, GTA III. The device I currently have is the Epic 4G Touch rooted and overclocked. But touchscreen emulators are terrible.
Is going from the Galaxy SII to the Xperia Play terrible? I will just be using the phone for the gaming functions, and as a internet device (wifi only). I am hoping although the Play is single core, it will be as smooth as my Galaxy. Thank you!!
It won't be as smooth as a dual core device, but you can run emulators up to ps1 (almost) flawlessly. For me, GTA III was a tiny bit laggy, but still playable.
As far as the u.i goes, you won't get GalaxySII smoothness or responsiveness, however you wont find a better emulation machine than the xperia play
Especially for very old systems like nes,snes, gameboy colour, sega, neogeo. There is an emulator for everything and they all run flawlessly on the play with the button (ps1 can be a bit flaky).
Thanks for your reply guys. PS1 emulation is something I'm not that interested in so that is not a worry. I have one more question though.
How do the analog sticks feel? I will be going to the store later today or in the week to try them out myself, but I just was wondering how you guys liked them?
If you want to play games, and have a cellphone in the same device, for sure, buy the Xperia Play. I came from a Optimus 2X, that isnt a Galaxy SII at all, but its a powerfull dual core too, and i dont regret. Xperia Play is a single core, but its the most powerfull one that I've have already seen, and runs smoothly the most of HD games. How its already saiyd in a above post, GTA III really get a bit of lag, but not much. Can be sure, the physical gamepad make a big diference. About the analogical touchpad, isnt so good to handle as a true analogical stick, but its better than nothing.
If you get an Xperia Play, I hardly recomend you to root and install DroidSail Super App2SD or a similar, because the 200mb of internal memory are ridiculous for a gaming device, and this app allows you to pass all the apps to sd card.
I wanted to play emulators too and i bought a chinese android console, and then i just read that the xperia play was better in emus and better quality and i sold the chinese console and bought an CDMA Xperia play to use as a console.
Then i loved it so much i sold my blackberry and my CDMA xperia play and bought a GSM xperia play and i now have all i want in my pocket. (phone, camera, divxplayer, console, mp3 player, tablet).
i think you wont regret it, if you only want it as a portable device, without cell phone recomend a r800a since its cheaper than the r800i
i use firmware 2.3.4 58, great batery life, last all day even if i msg a lot and play like 2 hours in the day. (on 2g, no wifi, no bluetooth or gps)
My answer may be biased since I don't like having to rub touch devices too long, but the analog touchpad is pretty frustrating at times. You basically tilt your thumbs in the direction you want them to go. Maybe you can adapt to it if you're used to using touchscreen analog in Android games, but for me they're frustrating.
No, you should not get the Play. The phone is obsolete already, there are no future updates expected from Sony, some of the best devs are leaving for other phones, official ICS was denied to us and the community is quickly dwindling.
If you want a great gaming device, get a handheld designed for that purpose. If you want an awesome phone, better take a look at what is being released in the near future, and stay away from Sony. By all means, don't waste your money on a phone that is already a year and a half old.
netizenmt said:
No, you should not get the Play. The phone is obsolete already, there are no future updates expected from Sony, some of the best devs are leaving for other phones, official ICS was denied to us and the community is quickly dwindling.
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You have a point there, even though Sony promised some more GB updates.
I heard the PSP 3000 has the ability to run emulators too, so you might want to look into that.
Well, I went to the Verizon store. I installed N64oid on the Play. And quite frankly, I hated it. The analogs sticks are just not for me.
I have decided to just buy the Yinlips YDPG18. looks like a PS Vita, but runs Android. Thanks for all your help!
Compared to my old phone, a Motorola Atrix 4G (nvidia tegra dual core), the sony xperia play feels faster, smoother, and higher quality phone. I can't explain it, and the fact that you have a real joystick to play real games is an added icing.
Having said that, you should not pay more than $100 US for a nice used one. I am looking at you Amazon sellers, trying to sell an R 800i for $300, what ripoffs!
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Do you like your Xperia Play?

As I read around the Internet, I see mixed reviews of the Xperia Play. However, if there is one thing i've learned through forum dwelling, it's that the unhappy are 10 times more likely to speak than the content.
If you don't want to answer any of those questions down below this, at least answer the poll <3
How well does it act as a phone? Are its texting/calling abilities acceptable?
How are the games? Are there emulators that take advantage of the control pad? Are there a reasonable amount of games that use the control pad? How often do you play games on it using the control pad? (I care so much about the control pad because it is the reason i'm considering buying it )
Is it exceptionally far behind recent phones? (Obviously it is behind as it isn't exactly a new phone, but will it still be useable 2-3 years from now?)
How well does Android run on it? Does it run more smoothly on the port of ICS or on its default Gingerbread? Do either of those OS's have a noticeable impact (good or bad) on gaming (compatibility, framerate, etc...)?
Would you buy your Xperia Play again?
Any other comments and experiences you have had are very welcome as well. Thank you for your time! I'm sure this thread will help at least one more person in the future.
Redjericho said:
How well does it act as a phone? Are its texting/calling abilities acceptable?
How are the games? Are there emulators that take advantage of the control pad? Are there a reasonable amount of games that use the control pad? How often do you play games on it using the control pad? (I care so much about the control pad because it is the reason i'm considering buying it )
Is it exceptionally far behind recent phones? (Obviously it is behind as it isn't exactly a new phone, but will it still be useable 2-3 years from now?)
How well does Android run on it? Does it run more smoothly on the port of ICS or on its default Gingerbread? Do either of those OS's have a noticeable impact (good or bad) on gaming (compatibility, framerate, etc...)?
Would you buy your Xperia Play again?
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1) The thing I like the best about Xperia Play is that it's not just good at being a game device. While I'm struggling to have any use for my PlayStation Vita, my Xperia Play's able to be an 'everything'.
2) The games are nice! Which is a very big deal for me. What I feared the most is that this would just be another OpenPandora, GP32, Dingoo A320, iControlPad or Gametel Controller; coming with all kinds of high tech, next-level hardware that people are wasting for all these old-ass games. I don't want to buy new technology for old software. I like seeing games that are actually able to take advantage of Xperia Play's full resolution and all it's methods of this-generation controls. What makes Xperia Play a winner to me is that it has all that. It's an excellent emulator, but you can get a good emulator anywhere... don't mean to be blunt, but that's nothing special. What makes Xperia Play special is that it's actually able to play the upper crust of this-generation smartphone games with dual analogs, high-res graphics and conventions of this generation. I'm playing games on it all the time... and shockingly enough, my shiny new PlayStation Vita isn't compromising that.
3) On paper, it seems like it would be far behind current phones because it's a single core. In practice though, it's running software (game and non-game) just as smoothly as the latest and greatest. Adreno 205 isn't very high-ranking on GPU acceleration, but practice always matters more than concept, and in practice I seldom see dips in framerate or hiccups in everyday use... and since it's got game controls, it's got a merit that those powerhouse phones don't. By all means, it should already be obsolete, yet everytime the next big 'benchmark' game comes out, Xperia Play has it's hands all over it. Then again, the same group of oblivious spec-counters talk **** about how every iPhone released is behind the curve at launch... yet single cores still hold their ground.
4) Android runs pretty silky smooth for me. What I will say is that you may not get the smoothest performance with that crappy standard launcher Sony puts on it's phones. With LauncherPro or ssLauncher, you see the Xperia Play being ridiculously smooth (those two launchers in particular also are a huge battery life savers).
5) I'd definitely buy it again. When I initially got this, it was a toss up between this and the Motorola Atrix. Now I see people with GS2's, Atrix, G2x, Atrix 2, GNotes that all fall in love with this single core phone I have (a few have even offered to trade their stronger phone for my weaker one that has game controls). I'll be able to upgrade again soon, and I'll likely just be using that for eBay fodder. As long as my Xperia Play continues being silky smooth and keeps providing a gaming experience that nothing else parallels, I don't see myself caring how strong phones get.
Do you like your Xperia Play?
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Well, the things that I don't like about it are cpu, gpu and ram because they are not appropriate for a gaming device.
but will it still be useable 2-3 years from now?)
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As a gaming device, I think it will not be usuable for games because games in the future will require Android 4.1 + more than good hardware like (1GB RAM - Snapdragon S4 CPU ... etc)
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TLRtheory said:
1) The thing I like the best about Xperia Play is that it's not just good at being a game device. While I'm struggling to have any use for my PlayStation Vita, my Xperia Play's able to be an 'everything'.
2) The games are nice! Which is a very big deal for me. What I feared the most is that this would just be another OpenPandora, GP32, Dingoo A320, iControlPad or Gametel Controller; coming with all kinds of high tech, next-level hardware that people are wasting for all these old-ass games. I don't want to buy new technology for old software. I like seeing games that are actually able to take advantage of Xperia Play's full resolution and all it's methods of this-generation controls. What makes Xperia Play a winner to me is that it has all that. It's an excellent emulator, but you can get a good emulator anywhere... don't mean to be blunt, but that's nothing special. What makes Xperia Play special is that it's actually able to play the upper crust of this-generation smartphone games with dual analogs, high-res graphics and conventions of this generation. I'm playing games on it all the time... and shockingly enough, my shiny new PlayStation Vita isn't compromising that.
3) On paper, it seems like it would be far behind current phones because it's a single core. In practice though, it's running software (game and non-game) just as smoothly as the latest and greatest. Adreno 205 isn't very high-ranking on GPU acceleration, but practice always matters more than concept, and in practice I seldom see dips in framerate or hiccups in everyday use... and since it's got game controls, it's got a merit that those powerhouse phones don't.
4) Android runs pretty silky smooth for me. What I will say is that you may not get the smoothest performance with that crappy standard launcher Sony puts on it's phones. With LauncherPro or ssLauncher, you see the Xperia Play being ridiculously smooth (those two launchers in particular also are a huge battery life savers).
5) I'd definitely buy it again. When I initially got this, it was a toss up between this and the Motorola Atrix. Now I see people with GS2's, Atrix, G2x, Atrix 2, GNotes that all fall in love with this single core phone I have (a few have even offered to trade their stronger phone for my weaker one that has game controls). I'll be able to upgrade again soon, and I'll likely just be using that for eBay fodder. As long as my Xperia Play continues being silky smooth and keeps providing a gaming experience that nothing else parallels, I don't see myself caring how strong phones get.
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Thank you so much for your review! You basically covered everything that I have been searching far-and-wide to find. It's good to hear that it can also handle current generation games (for the most part) because it's always nice to have one or two pick-up-and-play mindless games, and the current mobile market excels at that.
I too believe that a device's specs don't mean much unless they are real world, so it's nice to hear from an actual user that it performs well. The main complaints I have read are lag of android and battery life, so to learn that I can improve it (at least a bit) is a very big plus.
Thanks for taking the time to help me out! Where there is one satisfied customer there is bound to be more, but I will stick around to see what others have to say as well.
Xperia-Play said:
Well, the things that I don't like about it are cpu, gpu and ram because they are not appropriate for a gaming device.
As a gaming device, I think it will not be usuable for games because games in the future will require Android 4.1 + more than good hardware like (1GB RAM - Snapdragon S4 CPU ... etc)
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I don't really see it as a replacement for a true gaming device. If I wanted to play polygon-packed, particle effect oozing games, I would spring for a Ps Vita (which I probably will get some day). As long as it can run a reasonable selection of game pad optimized games/emulators, i don't mind the lack of specs.
I don't really see it as a replacement for a true gaming device. If I wanted to play polygon-packed, particle effect oozing games, I would spring for a Ps Vita (which I probably will get some day). As long as it can run a reasonable selection of game pad optimized games/emulators, i don't mind the lack of specs.
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I think you are right
I've
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How well does it act as a phone? Are its texting/calling abilities acceptable?
Excellent. 100% a good PHONE.
How are the games? Are there emulators that take advantage of the control pad? Are there a reasonable amount of games that use the control pad? How often do you play games on it using the control pad? (I care so much about the control pad because it is the reason i'm considering buying it )
Games for Android are great. SO many games are Xperia PLAY optimized. Emulator games, imo, are where it's at. Most emulated games just downright play better with physical controls. I <3 <3 <3 playing my PS1 roms on it.
Is it exceptionally far behind recent phones? (Obviously it is behind as it isn't exactly a new phone, but will it still be useable 2-3 years from now?)
I think so. Yeah it will lag a bit, especially as newer Android versions will require newer hardware, but imo we're safe for another year and a half or two. Possibly more.
How well does Android run on it? Does it run more smoothly on the port of ICS or on its default Gingerbread? Do either of those OS's have a noticeable impact (good or bad) on gaming (compatibility, framerate, etc...)?
For me using a custom rom (TrueAncestor) it's *butter*y smooth. Plays my games excellently.
Would you buy your Xperia Play again?
I most certainly would. Actually, I just did, and I am NOT regretting that desicion AT ALL. I had bought a beat up used one first and it died, but I liked it so much I bought it again.
i'll buy it ,
if one day , xperia play 2 comes , i'll buy that too , for any price
game pad is really really special H/W on phone , all i need is game and game support
I brought my play specifically for gaming as I'm sure so did everyone who has got this phone, I think it is a really good phone for gaming although it does struggle with some larger games like nova 3 but all in all the games seem to run lag less and have yet to have any issues with gaming myself, the phone itself excluding gaming is great it runs smooth, looks nice and its awesome when u show it to ur mates then flip out the controller lol, I wasn't sure about buying this phone at 1st as it does have some bad reviews and with it only having a 1ghz single core processor it didn't seem that revealing, anyway I went ahead and brought it and im yet to see any faults with it in fact after seeing mine my bro sold his iphone4 to buy one and my mate sold his sensation xe to buy one aswel which on paper is a huge downgrade, like I said some large games like nova 3 for example do lag but personally I think thats not because the phone can't hack it but that the game itself is just made crappy but a little lag on some games is worth bearing for the fact that u have a controller. This is the phone for anyone who likes gaming and if u install a custom rom and kernel its even better, I love this phone and won't ever change it unless an Xperia play 2 comes out
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Hi, for me it's the best phone out there not only for gaming cause it can everything what a modern android phone should can. I use it every day as a normal phone and everything is fine and if you are a gamer and retrogame fan like me then there isn't something better.
Of course there a lot of more powerfull phones but as said they're just phones, and yeah i tried to play on others but with touch it's impossible to play a good game!!

Still worth getting xperia play

i have been thinking of getting this phone or swap for my iphone as i do like playing games on a portable device i was wondering if it is still worth getting and how are you people finding it
huzi7868 said:
i have been thinking of getting this phone or swap for my iphone as i do like playing games on a portable device i was wondering if it is still worth getting and how are you people finding it
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The xperia play is a great phone and ghe best for gaming but its pretty outdated specs wise.if you don't care about specs and just want a good gaming phone than go for it. But if you want want a newer phone with good specs then get something newer like an s3 or something more affordable. But if you like gaming and don't care about old hardware and outdated software ( its stuck on gb unless you wanna flash a custom rom) then go for it
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Who cares about specs this phone runs better and is more stable then most phones on the,market lol plus you can overclovk the crap out of it
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its the only phone in the market that has a real life playstation touchpad yes it may have lower specs than the one thats out there, but the feel of having android phone + a playstation certified gaming gadget can never be traded by anything else out there. this phone will be my best and will forever be cherished by a gamer like me :angel:
i was worried about the ram its only 512 ive hardly had a phone with 512mb my current other phone is atrix dual core and 1 gb ram i also have an iphone which i dont want
This phone might have low ram and bad specs, but games still go much faster on the xperia play then on other devices with better specs.
And if games start to lag, unlock your bootloader, then flash a kernel and overclock.
Still lag, debloat your phone.
Still lag, flash tweaks eg AdrenoBooster
I am a proud play owner.but get galaxy 3 or HTC one and you will be happy.the play I will give it half a year and it will be dead.I am play owner from the start my first android phone.I hate Sony for what they do to this phone and not releasing xplay 2!!
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The gpu is a beast cpu sucks ass but as you know when playing a game the gpu does most of the work and the cpu barely gets off its ass thats why all Sony devices have ****ty cpu psp ps3 etc
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I would go with a newer phone I believed the xperia z is PS certified so you get exclusive games and its 5" 1080p full HD so games will look amazing on there...I know I would so swap my play for a newer phone in a heartbeat as I'm not a big gamer
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I would go with a newer phone I believed the xperia z is PS certified so you get exclusive games and its 5" 1080p full HD so games will look amazing on there...I know I would so swap my play for a newer phone in a heartbeat as I'm not a big gamer
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I believe the Xperia z would be an awesome phone choice for someone with gigantism or something 5 inch display like come on thats ridiculous. You cant even hold it in your hand comfortably. Maybe soon they will come out with phone backpacks cause unless you have ganster pants that monster is not going to fit in your pocket.
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Playing games on a touch screen device is good but not the same as playing on xperia play
Its not worth getting xperia play. A few weeks ago I thought it is worth to have an xperia play for gaming, phone, bluetooth, etc all in one little device... With all those I listed above is what I use on my xperia play it became a burden because it drains the CPU resources to do certain for instance gaming, and because it lacks ram, internal memory. I felt it was wasnt worth it a long run. Get a ps3 controller with a stand and be done with it.
well, its almost 2016 and I don't give a crap about specs on my phone, maybe on my pc for heavy gaming like shadows of mordor. But if you really love games F... all others. sure you can be gay and get a moga controller or other, but then you need a stand for your phone(unless it has one) then you have to carry a controller around like a putz! why do I really need to walkaround like a gay batman with a fanny pack in lieu of my utility belt? and ram? who cares root it unlock the boot loader and use sd card ext give your self whatever size you want good god! oh the X-play successfully use the 64 gb sd( I know cause its in mine 4 years now) is that the only defense new phones have that and speed? So what you had a 90 ghzx 32 gb phone SO??? IT DOES NOT HAVE A BUILT IN DUAL TOUCHPAD CONTROLLER. like one guy said ramp up the speed a little to alleviate sluggish response. I run mine a 1300 MHz (don't want to burn up the processor) and its almost 2016 , but with a controller, I get to play DS games (almost all of them ) all snes, genesis, Gba , and now PSP games and N64 games (quite a few) run (most of them) and all of the PSX library too then all the other games out there for android and the small handful of x-play exclusives. dead space dungeon hunter 2 3 and 4 shadowgun GTA 3 AVP minecraft PE all angry birds rainbow 6 HD ,backstab, Aidens crons man the list goes on.
So if you are agamer, don't get anything else period because it has a controller and the massive list of highly functioning emulators to go with it. ( seven consoles in one plus android games). if you just want a really powerful phone get a Z or i phone 6 or some Shiite because you know that you need that raw power for your texting and twatting. LMFAO but you already know what youre going to do , so just do it and stop asking questions.
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well, its almost 2016 and I don't give a crap about specs on my phone, maybe on my pc for heavy gaming like shadows of mordor. But if you really love games F... all others. sure you can be gay and get a moga controller or other, but then you need a stand for your phone(unless it has one) then you have to carry a controller around like a putz! why do I really need to walkaround like a gay batman with a fanny pack in lieu of my utility belt? and ram? who cares root it unlock the boot loader and use sd card ext give your self whatever size you want good god! oh the X-play successfully use the 64 gb sd( I know cause its in mine 4 years now) is that the only defense new phones have that and speed? So what you had a 90 ghzx 32 gb phone SO??? IT DOES NOT HAVE A BUILT IN DUAL TOUCHPAD CONTROLLER. like one guy said ramp up the speed a little to alleviate sluggish response. I run mine a 1300 MHz (don't want to burn up the processor) and its almost 2016 , but with a controller, I get to play DS games (almost all of them ) all snes, genesis, Gba , and now PSP games and N64 games (quite a few) run (most of them) and all of the PSX library too then all the other games out there for android and the small handful of x-play exclusives. dead space dungeon hunter 2 3 and 4 shadowgun GTA 3 AVP minecraft PE all angry birds rainbow 6 HD ,backstab, Aidens crons man the list goes on.
So if you are agamer, don't get anything else period because it has a controller and the massive list of highly functioning emulators to go with it. ( seven consoles in one plus android games). if you just want a really powerful phone get a Z or i phone 6 or some Shiite because you know that you need that raw power for your texting and twatting. LMFAO but you already know what youre going to do , so just do it and stop asking questions.
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It's funny how android fanboys basically jack off to specs but a single core phone from 2011 still keeps up in gaming lol. You can even install up to jelly bean and have everything working kitkat and lollipop work but the touchpads are still being worked on. If the Xperia play could be modded to have LTE everyone would probably still have it. Yes other phones have bigger screens and are faster but if it is gaming that is your passion the play is THE ONLY WAY TO GO. Like this guy says you can use the sd as ram lol. It will be slower doing some things but gaming with that controller just can't be matched. If Sony made a derivative of the Z that had a gamepad I'd buy it the second it came out lol. Because my plays flex cable went out when I was away I had to get a new phone aka the Ion and now I have a z3 which is nice because it has alot of awesome features but I still have and still use a Xperia play! Gaming on a touchscreen really sucks.
Someone even modded the remote play apk so you theoretically could play your Ps4 on your Xperia play if you have the Sony files on your rom!
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i like my 3ds, but for me, no xplay no game!
Don't get the Xperia Play now.. move on and get a z5 and a PS controller attachd to it or something.. this phone will be dead very soon.. Gaming wise. as a phone its still good. newer games demand more from the phone which Play cant give.
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i have been thinking of getting this phone or swap for my iphone as i do like playing games on a portable device i was wondering if it is still worth getting and how are you people finding it
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Well for me the Xperia Play has been the best phone ever made, the build quality is amazing the design is perfect, the speakers are great, battery life outstanding, the Camera is still great for today standards and the physical controls just make the difference, no other phone in the market offers all that.
My advice is, get an Xperia play if you mainly care about gaming and only use your phone for basic stuff like moderate messaging, phone calls, whatsapp, listening to music, taking some photos.
If you use a lot of Facebook, email, surfing the web, google app and other heavy apps then I advise to stay away from the Play, the single core and the 512mb of ram are just not enough for multitasking, no matter how much you tweak it, the experience will be annoying. Mainly due to poorly optimized apps from developers, for instance the Facebook app will make the XPlay unusable.
let me add to that many of the apps that I use.. have a min. requirement of 4.0.4+ or ICS+ and if we use Xperia play for real gaming.. we have to stay at GB or 2.3.7 .. so u would have to choose between Apps or Gaming.. so yes
Gaming wise this phone is the best.. that too cant play newer games I believe.. as time will pass newer games will have a min requirement of 4+ too I believe.. so this phone is loosing the battle everyday in that sense.
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let me add to that many of the apps that I use.. have a min. requirement of 4.0.4+ or ICS+ and if we use Xperia play for real gaming.. we have to stay at GB or 2.3.7 .. so u would have to choose between Apps or Gaming.. so yes
Gaming wise this phone is the best.. that too cant play newer games I believe.. as time will pass newer games will have a min requirement of 4+ too I believe.. so this phone is loosing the battle everyday in that sense.
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Why do you have to stay below jelly bean I believe everything works. I'm not sure about kit kat tho. But the majority the VAST majority support down to ICS which our plays do have. You can mod ICS or pick up a rom to make gaming epic. Just trust me on this one.
https://youtu.be/T7uJ_ylow3k my awesome youtube channel so many vids! 237 to be exact
not sure if anyone still visits this thread, I just got an Xperia Play (R800at) today. been playing around a bit with it (I collect unique cell phones still looking for a nice inexpensive LG Thrill (in good shape lol) and I'm done lol)
Anyway, was looking on here to see what mods and such were available. hate the low memory. wanna kill off the FB app as I prolly wont use it there. just wanna load some emu's and a streaming music app (Soma FM) . also, probably a silly question, did the market end for this phone? (the game market I mean. both the playstation app and the xperia play app (the one that starts when you open the controls) wont connect to download)
Also whats the best root method?

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So with the raw power that the M9 has, would it be possible to play console games on it or even PC games? Im talking like dying light, FC4, BF4, etc. maybe through an emulator or something? I would love to play my PC games on my phone
i tried god of war the psp game using psp emulator
its run like 8-10 FPS without any enhancement
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i tried god of war the psp game using psp emulator
its run like 8-10 FPS without any enhancement
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And thats PSP? huh...
So i guess bf4, if it were possible, would get terrible frame rates. bummer.
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And thats PSP? huh...
So i guess bf4, if it were possible, would get terrible frame rates. bummer.
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beside , there is no BF4 on android
Quadrider10 said:
So with the raw power that the M9 has, would it be possible to play console games on it or even PC games? Im talking like dying light, FC4, BF4, etc. maybe through an emulator or something? I would love to play my PC games on my phone
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All due respect mate, if you're talking about emulation, even the ps2 is problematic and that's on a high end gaming rig, the problem is the complex processing it uses whilst not the most powerful processor in the world it is difficult to emulate, as for anything like the the ps3 or ps4, I'm afraid at the moment its not possible and if it were it would be utterly awful and that is on a high end gaming rig.
On a phone it really is impossible, high end games like battlefield 4 would have to be created with arm architecture in mind, and even if they did decide to do that, the phone would die quickly and the game would run like a dying dog.
Sorry mate, for now and the foreseeable future the best you can expect is psx, PSP, n64 and maybe ( and this is a big maybe) emulation for the GameCube and Wii, which has been done to a degree but again, runs like a dog.
The only games which are console like which you may be able to get to run are the ones which have been created for the nvidia shield, like portal and half life 2, hardly mind blowing graphics but a really big deal for mobile gaming, I'm not too sure on the nvidia shields processor or GPU but I do know its superior to the adreno in our m9's with that in mind, even if it is possible to get it to run, you have to expect issues.
The only option you have to play games on your phone is to grab a decent pad like the Moga pro and splash top to stream the game to your device. An nvidia graphics card for your pc is preferable for this and a rock solid internet connection for your phone, even then you should expect a fair bit of input lag on those games, this technique has been around for a few years now.
Sorry its not better news mate I'd love to play black ops 2 or even cod 2 on my phone, LAN parties in work when its quiet would be epic.. I think with games like call of duty 2 its quite possible as the hardware in our phones could probably handle most of the graphics but again it'd have to be created instead of ported.
Apparently doom 3 has been ported, that's quite cool.

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