Sense 4.0 / HTC One Camera app - pre-release video walkthrough - HTC One X

Hi Everyone,
I’m new to XDA, so I thought I’d try to make my first post as helpful as I can (I love the noob video on the registration page by the way! )
Anyway…
I was recently taking part in an online discussion with some Android beginners, and a really big topic for them was the new camera app in Sense 4.0 / upcoming HTC One series. Due to the varying knowledge levels of the people and the difficulty of typing out so many replies, I offered to create a video to (attempt to) address many of their questions.
So, with the aid of the S4X ROM from the Virtuous team, I put together a 24 minute video that goes through the included pre-release version of the camera app in Sense 4.0 from start to finish.
Please note that I was asked to go through each and every one of the menu options, while also having to add a walkthrough of the updated panorama feature and include explanations of stuff like ISO etc. For that reason, some of you may find that the video drags on a bit (oh, and I’m no Spielberg either ).
Still, if it helps a small handful of people, it was worth the effort.
HTC One Camera app - pre-release video walkthrough
Cheers,
Bugsy.

SenseBugs said:
Have done. Thanks for your help!
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Anytime mate Welcome to XDA!
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium

Hey, edited the OP adding the link to the video.
Cheers

SenseBugs said:
Hi Everyone,
I’m new to XDA, so I thought I’d try to make my first post as helpful as I can (I love the noob video on the registration page by the way! )
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Thanks for sharing and welcome to XDA
I posted a link to your vid in the sample images thread as they are discussing the topic of interface videos there at the moment. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1543802

Hmm, there was something in your video that got me thinking.
You pointed out that an f2.0 camera lens allows twice as much light into the camera than an f2.8 lens would (so 100% more light).
This reminded me that HTC stated that the One X lets in 44% more light than the previous model. Does anyone know which previous model HTC were refering to? I'm guessing it's not the Sensation, because I doubt that has an f2.3 (ish?) lens

Sensation is f2.4, One X is f2.0

craigspc said:
Hmm, there was something in your video that got me thinking.
You pointed out that an f2.0 camera lens allows twice as much light into the camera than an f2.8 lens would (so 100% more light).
This reminded me that HTC stated that the One X lets in 44% more light than the previous model. Does anyone know which previous model HTC were refering to? I'm guessing it's not the Sensation, because I doubt that has an f2.3 (ish?) lens
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In relation to an F2.8 lens, 44% more light does equate to F2.4. Having said that, I can't say that I've ever seen any documentation where HTC have stated that the Sensation has an F2.4 lens. Images don't appear to contain this info embedded in their EXIF data either.
@EddyOS Would you mind telling me how you found this info?
Bugsy

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HTC One X - Picture Thread

So erm, I know a lot of people are starting to get their phones, and just thought it might be cool to have a thread dedicated to pictures people take, so it is nice and easy to see shots
DomCowell said:
So erm, I know a lot of people are starting to get their phones, and just thought it might be cool to have a thread dedicated to pictures people take, so it is nice and easy to see shots
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agreed, camera is the make or break for me! let's see those fantastic photography skills!
saturation
Well I tried to post a picture but since I am a new one I am not allowed to do so yet
Anyways I noticed that the pictures tend to be heavily oversaturated with the stock settings so I have turned the saturation down by 1 point. I think it gives much better look to the pictures you take with your lovely One X.
And about the picture quality... It is there! It is just so easy to screw up the pictures by not focusing properly or shaking... Keep taking pictures of the target you want and eventually it will give you a nice one.
I am not sure if you can use normal photography rules to phone hardware but if the f/ is 2.0, which gives you very shallow depth of field, the focusing is everything. And with the point to autofocus it can be a real pain in the ass. This can also be the reason why other camera phones pictures might look sharper, if they do cant remember , higher F = higher focus overall in picture. f/2.0 allows faster shooting in dark but it is more prone to blur from screwing up your focus.
Anyways, keep focusing your pictures! I think its a great phone with a pretty decent camera if you use it right.
There is already such a thread, many pages long. Have a browse for it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585398
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
Remember search function.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
Yes there is an other theme about pictures but without instructions for custom settings. And if there are we can't find between so many posts without interesting.
Moderators must transfer at the first post all the tips so as to be easy for every one to find them.

my One X review

Hello all, I know traditionally i only review samsung devices as a samsung mobiler i've decided to branch out a bit and share the love. So here's my review on the One x. Let me know what you think, i'm always taking your comments on board and trying to make my content better.
Out of interest it was filmed on a canon Eos 1100D rather than my galaxy s2 for a change. Hopefully you can tell the difference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8JwiCQlxhg&feature=youtu.be
and a video of the two flavours of ICS on the galaxy nexus and the one X
http://youtu.be/V4Gidj5dEic
I also took some photos from different angles of the one x...find them at my blog here:
http://staceysamsungmobiler.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/htc-one-x.html
Here's a quick comparison of the screen on the Galaxy Nexus vs HTC one x. Which do you prefer?
http://staceysamsungmobiler.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/super-amoled-vs-super-ips-lcd2.html
Good to see a Samsung Mobiler here enjoyed views of the SGS2. Nice review you'll enjoy the device
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nikzDHD said:
Good to see a Samsung Mobiler here enjoyed views of the SGS2. Nice review you'll enjoy the device
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so far i'm totally in love with it....i wonder what the s3 will bring to the table though
The one device that I've been patiently waiting for do you guys get insider knowledge?
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all i know is the same stuff as all the rumours out there....
Most of the time your hand seems to be in focus rather than the device screen
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Most of the time your hand seems to be in focus rather than the device screen
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LOL yes! i'm sorry about that, i'm totally new to DSLR and was having a little trouble focusing it.
Stacey thanks for sharing with us.
Whats software did the phone you reviewed had 1.26.xxx?
What was the battery like with ur experience?
Have you noticed any of the problems that people here in the forum are having ?
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Stacey thanks for sharing with us.
Whats software did the phone you reviewed had 1.26.xxx?
What was the battery like with ur experience?
Have you noticed any of the problems that people here in the forum are having ?
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1.26.401.2
battery is average in my opinion, and no problems as of yet
Amazing videos, Stacey
thank you very much
Oh and thanks for the images you uploaded ! I really needed some high res images !
And listen, how are the blacks on the One X compared to the Galaxy Nexus's?
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all i know is the same stuff as all the rumours out there....
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Nice review Stacey!
I thought Mobilers always had access to the Samsung devices prior to general public. I clearly remember Dom and you had the SGS2 long (weeks/days) before the general public. Both of you guys had a popular thread before release of the SGS2 during last April/May.
Hey, PM me a photo of the SGS3 and the specs list...Trust me, I won't tell anyone!
Good reviews there and i love your english. Hope i will talk like that someday.
One thing to the Multitask. The thing you reviewed on the One X as Taskmanager ist the taskmanager. Its just a graphic gimmik to show main threads and easily jump from one to another. Search on the device applist for Taskmanager and then you see your real tasks and up to 9 tasks at once.
I realy love my One X but i think all Sense gimmiks are just made to look good. Usability is just on 2nd rank. For much Sense widgets i use alternatives.
nice review
thank you
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Nice review Stacey!
I thought Mobilers always had access to the Samsung devices prior to general public. I clearly remember Dom and you had the SGS2 long (weeks/days) before the general public. Both of you guys had a popular thread before release of the SGS2 during last April/May.
Hey, PM me a photo of the SGS3 and the specs list...Trust me, I won't tell anyone!
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It's true we did have the s2weeks before it was released , but this time round It's not the same lol I honestly know as much as you guys lol
lokiderelb said:
Good reviews there and i love your english. Hope i will talk like that someday.
One thing to the Multitask. The thing you reviewed on the One X as Taskmanager ist the taskmanager. Its just a graphic gimmik to show main threads and easily jump from one to another. Search on the device applist for Taskmanager and then you see your real tasks and up to 9 tasks at once.
I realy love my One X but i think all Sense gimmiks are just made to look good. Usability is just on 2nd rank. For much Sense widgets i use alternatives.
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Ahhyes ! I found it. Please I'll add a note to the description of the video. Thanks for pointing it out
A good video, just one word of advice:
When you want to show something on the screen, dont move the phone closer to the camera, it makes the image blurry.
Best is to just keep it the way it is, so that the image stays sharp and then once you're editing the video zoom in digitally!
That'll make the screen more readable
Thanka for the feed back, seriously guys this all helps me for when I make my next . My next purchase is a proper tripod for my camera lol
also added a quick comparison of super amoled vs super ips LCD2...see 1st post for url

HTC One X's horrific video bitrate - why isn't it talked about? [FIXED?]

EDIT: This guy just made my day!! I just made a 47kbit video with this mod to stock camera.
NOW we can close this thread if mods so desire =) Thank you everyone!
So the bitrate on HTC One X's camera is hilariously low.
Videos that it spits out terrible when compared to SGSII which I gave to my wife. Video is just strobbing and wobbling due to it.
I understand that some people have very low quality standards and are satisfied with it, and there were some threads about it here.. but everything kinda died out.
I think hardware is capable of "normal" bitrate, since some market camera apps allow for it.. But can we make a hack to our camera to allow for high bitrates?
I mean, I love the phone.. but what's the point of 1080p video capability if it spits out 10k bitrate? None.
DarkDvr said:
I understand that some people have very low quality standards and are satisfied with it, and there were some threads about it here.. but everything kinda died out.
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Maybe that should tell you something. Do you think starting a new thread when others are open is going to change anything? It's been acknowledged and is for now a fact of life. What are you expecting to happen? More ranting? A petition perhaps? For those that are desperately miserable with all or parts of the One X, why don't you sell it and get an SGS3? Repetitive ranting here isn't going to change anything no matter how many threads are opened.
Duplicate threads, especially those that are stated as duplicate threads, get closed.
I agree, 720p goes ok, but 1080p stutters a lil bit.. the bitrate should be higher..
tried it with some other apps, like lgCamcorder.. you can select the bitrate and you'll get smoother video (20mbps is enough)
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maybe HTC will eventually bring out an update, wich increases the bitrate of the camera app (hope so)
Maybe that should tell you something. Do you think starting a new thread when others are open is going to change anything? It's been acknowledged and is for now a fact of life. What are you expecting to happen? More ranting? A petition perhaps? For those that are desperately miserable with all or parts of the One X, why don't you sell it and get an SGS3? Repetitive ranting here isn't going to change anything no matter how many threads are opened.
Duplicate threads, especially those that are stated as duplicate threads, get closed.
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Look at you all puffing and pissed off, lol. Angry little creature.
I opened this thread because it's a legitimate question about why aren't those threads getting an attention they deserve. Perhaps people are satisfied with choppy wobbly video that One X produces, perhaps a solution has been found that I'm not aware of. Hence, the thread.
And a related question - What are you expecting to happen by yelling at me for opening this thread? More ranting? For you, desperately miserable and super angry about this thread, why don't you see a shrink - perhaps they can fix you up.
Now unless you got something relevant to contribute to the problem at hand, go rant somewhere else.
Super-Veloce said:
I agree, 720p goes ok, but 1080p stutters a lil bit.. the bitrate should be higher..
tried it with some other apps, like lgCamcorder.. you can select the bitrate and you'll get smoother video (20mbps is enough)
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maybe HTC will eventually bring out an update, wich increases the bitrate of the camera app (hope so)
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I remember seeing someone who developed a higher bitrate camera for Sensation trying to make one for HOX.. but not sure what happened there - did he lose interest?
It just surprises me that this isn't discussed much more.
Search for the sense HQcamera mod - when i was running sense i got 29fps at 11-12,000kbps and uncompressed/4-5mb pics BIG difference compared to stock camera. CM9 - im getting 18-19,000kbps with 22fps indoors, will test outdoors later.
It's been talked about A LOT, especially by me in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24993164&postcount=39
ArmedandDangerous said:
It's been talked about A LOT, especially by me in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24993164&postcount=39
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cool m8, When you look at the results from the mod/apps you think what the hell is HTC thinking.
ArmedandDangerous said:
It's been talked about A LOT, especially by me in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24993164&postcount=39
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Thank you! I remember looking at that thread, but haven't seen the these results.
mafia187 said:
Search for the sense HQcamera mod - when i was running sense i got 29fps at 11-12,000kbps and uncompressed/4-5mb pics BIG difference compared to stock camera. CM9 - im getting 18-19,000kbps with 22fps indoors, will test outdoors later.
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Yes, I remember that one. Unfortunately, development of it for HOX was stopped, and existing beta mod freeezes up and FCs a lot. I just tried latest 1.3beta for Sense4 - that is indeed the case.
I contacted that developer with a PM, asking him what does he need to fully port that mod for HOX, with 25+mbits for 1080p. If he needs a financial incentive to compensate for his time and effort, I'll get a bounty going here.
So far, only Camera ICS works decently well, without crashing.
LGCamera is on and off kind of thing. About half the time it doesn't record anything - just black video feed.
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Thank you! I remember looking at that thread, but haven't seen the these results.
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I've actually been asked by a XDA member to do some more tests with the current ROM version. Will be doing 720p and 1080p some time soon Been raining these days, not enough sun ):
one thing to open a new thread to "talk about the problem" over and over, another with the purpose of actually solving / improving the issue.
imho i'm tired of discussing the "problem", it has been discussed already to death, that's why the search function is for.
as far as the "solution" goes, there's couple of threads/developments around which (WOW) are linked in the respective "problem" threads....
@OP: there's other alternatives to LgCamera that work well...care to search for them?
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one thing to open a new thread to "talk about the problem" over and over, another with the purpose of actually solving / improving the issue.
imho i'm tired of discussing the "problem", it has been discussed already to death, that's why the search function is for.
as far as the "solution" goes, there's couple of threads/developments around which (WOW) are linked in the respective "problem" threads....
@OP: there's other alternatives to LgCamera that work well...care to search for them?
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And your ranting adds what to the thread?
LGCamera doesn't work very well with HOX. Many times it can't get the feed from camera and won't work until reboot.
Camera ICS is a bad alternative as it's ugly, has adds and has resolution problems.
HDCamera mod doesn't work with HOX.
I did read those threads, that's why I opened this one.
Now, can we stop acting like a new thread costs millions of dollars and move on with the discussion? If you don't want to participate - don't participate. If all you want to do is complain - please avoid this thread kkthnx.
DarkDvr said:
And your ranting adds what to the thread?
LGCamera doesn't work very well with HOX. Many times it can't get the feed from camera and won't work until reboot.
Camera ICS is a bad alternative as it's ugly, has adds and has resolution problems.
HDCamera mod doesn't work with HOX.
I did read those threads, that's why I opened this one.
Now, can we stop acting like a new thread costs millions of dollars and move on with the discussion? If you don't want to participate - don't participate. If all you want to do is complain - please avoid this thread kkthnx.
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close your eyes when taking a photo so you don't have to see the CameraICS interface...add 1.99$ to the mix and get rid of the ads. there are no resolution problems.
nothing new that hasn't been said before.....
zerozoneice said:
close your eyes when taking a photo so you don't have to see the CameraICS interface...add 1.99$ to the mix and get rid of the ads. there are no resolution problems.
nothing new that hasn't been said before.....
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'close your eyes when taking a photo'??
... Wow. Just.. Wow.
Could I ask you to please stop trolling this thread? Just... ignore it. Thanks.
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there are no resolution problems.
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I've never mentioned it before, but all those apps at least used to have dodgy aspect ratios when recording video, couldnt find any option to work around it.
Just looked now actually, most recent version of camera ics has fixed that...
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I've never mentioned it before, but all those apps at least used to have dodgy aspect ratios when recording video, couldnt find any option to work around it.
Just looked now actually, most recent version of camera ics has fixed that...
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It still does =(
Just bought a paid version of Camera ICS - tested it out - stretched videos. Had to get a refund immediately.
So Camera ICS isn't a viable option, so is LGCamera that can't even connect to the camera about 80% of the time (tested on several ROMs).
Back at square one =(
45kbit+ video mod for stock camera!!! Seems to be working fine so far. Now I'm happy =)
Seems to be recording at 24fps only. Not smooth enough for me /:
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Seems to be recording at 24fps only. Not smooth enough for me /:
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there was a mod for 29FPS out there, wasn't it?
but bitrate still @ 10-12mbps
pick your poison, will take a genius to combine FPS and bitrate in one mod

[Q] Question about dual camera, please take a look

Hello everyone!
Liking new smartphone so far?
So my question is, M8 has a dual depth camera right? And as I know it's kind of an open source so we can play with it.
Is it anywhere possible for someone to make any kind of cheap home 3d motion capture app with it, so that we could import it to Autodesk or any other 3d animation program? Is it possible to do that with M8 dual camera? Even if it's laggy, with hiccups, just for learning purposes... I think it would be awesome if someone could put their skillful hands on that idea. I, personally, would pay a lot for that kind of software.
Thank you in advance for your attention.
Good luck with M8!
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Hello everyone!
Liking new smartphone so far?
So my question is, M8 has a dual depth camera right? And as I know it's kind of an open source so we can play with it.
Is it anywhere possible for someone to make any kind of cheap home 3d motion capture app with it, so that we could import it to Autodesk or any other 3d animation program? Is it possible to do that with M8 dual camera? Even if it's laggy, with hiccups, just for learning purposes... I think it would be awesome if someone could put their skillful hands on that idea. I, personally, would pay a lot for that kind of software.
Thank you in advance for your attention.
Good luck with M8!
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Take a look at Google's Project Tango. Their prototype phone looks like it has a similar dual sensor setup to the M8. Also, one of the partners listed on the page is Omnivison, who make make the rear camera in the M8. Hopefully something similar is possible on the M8 too!
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Take a look at Google's Project Tango. Their prototype phone looks like it has a similar dual sensor setup to the M8. Also, one of the partners listed on the page is Omnivison, who make make the rear camera in the M8. Hopefully something similar is possible on the M8 too!
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Sounds cool to me! ^_^
although possible i would presume.
The set up of the cameras is not conducive with 3d filming or capture Im afraid they would need to be better placed and balanced.
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although possible i would presume.
The set up of the cameras is not conducive with 3d filming or capture Im afraid they would need to be better placed and balanced.
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Yeah, I understand it won't be perfect. But I hope there would be some kind of possibility to do that, even if it's poor...

Any way to update htc 10 camera app to a newer version ?

Is it possible to update htc 10 camera app to a newer version (it currently is 8.6 something on oreo stock ) . As far as I know there is a 9.* version. Is there a way to use a newer version of htc camera that better utilizes the sensor or the best way is to find a good enough google camera app ( since many are buggy )
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leodiavata said:
Is it possible to update htc 10 camera app to a newer version (it currently is 8.6 something on oreo stock ) . As far as I know there is a 9.* version. Is there a way to use a newer version of htc camera that better utilizes the sensor or the best way is to find a good enough google camera app ( since many are buggy )
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Yes. Install one of the UpDates from HTC Camera.
Ehm did not really work. Get an error app not installed during installation.
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Yes. Install one of the UpDates from HTC Camera.
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Did not really work. Get an error during installation of any version . App not installed.
Apologies
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Did not really work. Get an error during installation of any version . App not installed.
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My humblest apologies for being so late on this -but- you can try these two apps from Google Play:
Camera FV-5 Lite and
Cinema FV-5 Lite
There are also Pro versions which will cost you some dollars.
They have lots of settings. The HTC camera did both the stills and videos but these are two separate apps.
Take care,
-Chuck
Is there any port of HTC Cameara making it work on ROMs without Sense like LOS?
Meshok said:
Is there any port of HTC Cameara making it work on ROMs without Sense like LOS?
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How would that be possible without the sense framework ?
Los no sense = no sense framework layer.
If it would be possible it would have been done years ago .....
This actually installs on crdroid N.
Can't say for O, P, Q
But gcam takes far better shots.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/themes/htc-sense-s10s-t3917979
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How would that be possible without the sense framework ?
Los no sense = no sense framework layer.
If it would be possible it would have been done years ago .....
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Sense Framework is just a set of native libs + APKs.
When you need to port an app using them, you just have to "bake" them into your app's APK. So instead of using system-wide installed stuff, a ported app would use the ones from its own APK.
The only major two issues are poorer compatibility of such app across Android SDK versions and larger APK size compared to the original APK targetted a system with pre-installed Sense.
Actually, HTC has published a set of its Sense apps available for any device already.
And fortunately, HTC Camera works on LOS 16
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This actually installs on crdroid N.
Can't say for O, P, Q
But gcam takes far better shots.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/themes/htc-sense-s10s-t3917979
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Thank you the link, I didn't know about this port.
What do you mean by "gcam takes far better shots"? If you're talking about image quality it depends solely on camera's hardware quality (which obviously is the same in both cases) + a set of settings a camera app sends to the hardware for taking an image.
How a generic gcam written to work with any cameras from horrible ones to best-of-breed (thus having multitude of compromises in its source code) could send better settings to the HTC OEM hardware compared to a HTC's own native Camera app on HTC device?
Meshok said:
Sense Framework is just a set of native libs + APKs.
When you need to port an app using them, you just have to "bake" them into your app's APK. So instead of using system-wide installed stuff, a ported app would use the ones from its own APK.
The only major two issues are poorer compatibility of such app across Android SDK versions and larger APK size compared to the original APK targetted a system with pre-installed Sense.
Actually, HTC has published a set of its Sense apps available for any device already.
And fortunately, HTC Camera works on LOS 16
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Thank you the link, I didn't know about this port.
What do you mean by "gcam takes far better shots"? If you're talking about image quality it depends solely on camera's hardware quality (which obviously is the same in both cases) + a set of settings a camera app sends to the hardware for taking an image.
How a generic gcam written to work with any cameras from horrible ones to best-of-breed (thus having multitude of compromises in its source code) could send better settings to the HTC OEM hardware compared to a HTC's own native Camera app on HTC device?
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lmao
don't know or care
a thank you doesn't hurt either.
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lmao
don't know or care
a thank you doesn't hurt either.
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Ok, just checking since in your OP you've said it so that I've thought there are objective measures why gcam would produce better shots than HTC Cam.
Meshok said:
Ok, just checking since in your OP you've said it so that I've thought there are objective measures why gcam would produce better shots than HTC Cam.
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LOL dude, OP stands for "Opening Post" and that's not me.
And I have nothing to do with gcam development, like literally what are you talking about bro?
Try them both out.. I didn't have to find that htc camera app for you and I have no interest in using it..
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Ok, just checking since in your OP you've said it so that I've thought there are objective measures why gcam would produce better shots than HTC Cam.
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Hold on, you are asking why you can’t use HTC sense camera on non sense ROMs yet HTC camera works on Los which is a non sense ROM..... if that is so why do you ask such a question ?
That is a massive contradiction.........making it so that your initial question doesn’t stand ground at all.
Cheers, enjoy the htc camera
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Ok, just checking since in your OP you've said it so that I've thought there are objective measures why gcam would produce better shots than HTC Cam.
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You know, you could Google for an explanation instead of going after @andybones, the person that tried to help you out with a great suggestion.
If you take a little time you'll see that the gcam ports are omnipresent, every single device subforum has a request or a thread for one. To answer your question, it's been known for a while now that the hardware isn't the only, or even main determining factor for image quality in smartphones, and Google showed that better then anyone with the Pixel lineup. Those devices have inferior camera hardware, but shoot the absolute best pics. And it's all down to the software processing that the camera app has, which still works with the ports, even with the shortcuts and loss of features that are expected.
Go ahead and give it a try, I actually came back to this forum looking for the port so I can install it on my mom's HTC 10 since the stock camera is pretty underwhelming
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LOL dude, OP stands for "Opening Post" and that's not me.
And I have nothing to do with gcam development, like literally what are you talking about bro?
Try them both out.. I didn't have to find that htc camera app for you and I have no interest in using it..
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@andybones Oh, sorry! I've made an outrageous mistake by typing 'your OP' instead of 'your answer to me'. Not everyone has perfect English here. Excuse me, sir! Thank you for letting me know what's OP acronym stands for!
I haven'r said you have something to do with gcam development. Let me repeat myself:
>>> You've said it so that I've thought there are objective measures why gcam would produce better shots than HTC Cam.
That's all what I've meant to say you in response.
If I'd get objective arguments instead of personal opinions why gcam could be better and in which respects, I'll definitely try it out and only if those respects would be important to me.
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Mr Hofs said:
Hold on, you are asking why you can’t use HTC sense camera on non sense ROMs yet HTC camera works on Los which is a non sense ROM..... if that is so why do you ask such a question ?
That is a massive contradiction.........making it so that your initial question doesn’t stand ground at all.
Cheers, enjoy the htc camera
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Wow Did you know that Sense apps could (and are) ported on non-Sense ROMs?
If you did not, do a research on this topic before commenting on something you know little about.
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igor_anta said:
it's been known for a while now that the hardware isn't the only, or even main determining factor for image quality
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I haven't said 'only'. Instead, I added the following '+' clause to my initialstatement:
>>> image quality it depends solely on camera's hardware quality (which obviously is the same in both cases) + a set of settings a camera app sends to the hardware for taking an image.
igor_anta said:
Google showed that better then anyone with the Pixel lineup. Those devices have inferior camera hardware, but shoot the absolute best pics. And it's all down to the software processing that the camera app has, which still works with the ports
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If gcam was absolute best with Pixel hardware, why do we know it'd be absolute best with any other random hardware like HTC 10 hardware?
Meshok said:
@andybones Oh, sorry! I've made an outrageous mistake by typing 'your OP' instead of 'your answer to me'. Not everyone has perfect English here. Excuse me, sir! Thank you for letting me know what's OP acronym stands for!
I haven'r said you have something to do with gcam development. Let me repeat myself:
>>> You've said it so that I've thought there are objective measures why gcam would produce better shots than HTC Cam.
That's all what I've meant to say you in response.
If I'd get objective arguments instead of personal opinions why gcam could be better and in which respects, I'll definitely try it out and only if those respects would be important to me.
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Wow Did you know that Sense apps could (and are) ported on non-Sense ROMs?
If you did not, do a research on this topic before commenting on something you know little about.
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I haven't said 'only'. Instead, I added the following '+' clause to my initialstatement:
>>> image quality it depends solely on camera's hardware quality (which obviously is the same in both cases) + a set of settings a camera app sends to the hardware for taking an image.
If gcam was absolute best with Pixel hardware, why do we know it'd be absolute best with any other random hardware like HTC 10 hardware?
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I don't care enough to get wound up, so I'll put this as nice and clearly as I can for you.
#1 - here at XDA this is an ENGLISH ONLY forum, so no you aren't excused.
#2 - yes, OP stands for ONE thing here. Opening Post. Not whatever you come up with as type.
#3- do us all a favor and go read the rules.
#4- I can't even begin to tell you how ridiculous you sound using MY SEACHING and answer to be petty to others. How about you go and search. If you did, I wouldn't of needed to hand feed you and be here dealing with you.
#5- it amazes me that you honestly think that anyone is going to stumble on this post and be like yeaa, let's help this guy out. No. You literally just saved everyone a lot of trouble and their time.
I said try them both, that's not being objective.
This is a joke.
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andybones said:
I don't care enough to get wound up, so I'll put this as nice and clearly as I can for you.
#1 - here at XDA this is an ENGLISH ONLY forum, so no you aren't excused.
#2 - yes, OP stands for ONE thing here. Opening Post. Not whatever you come up with as type.
#3- do us all a favor and go read the rules.
#4- I can't even begin to tell you how ridiculous you sound using MY SEACHING and answer to be petty to others. How about you go and search. If you did, I wouldn't of needed to hand feed you and be here dealing with you.
#5- it amazes me that you honestly think that anyone is going to stumble on this post and be like yeaa, let's help this guy out. No. You literally just saved everyone a lot of trouble and their time.
I said try them both, that's not being objective.
This is a joke.
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All you're saying is so sad to hear You make me really feel my quilt. But I promise you I will do my best to correct all the things you've mentioned above! Hopefully, you'd excuse me one day seeing my effort to become a better human being...
Also, next time when somebody would ask me about a 'camera app X port' in a topic dedicated to that canera X app, I'd answer 'Dude, camera app Y is the best, But don't ask me why. Use Google to prove my own opinion'.
Thank you fir this lesson, too! Is this also a rule in your XDA rule set?
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That's fair enough.
I just attempted to get your objective arguments on your subjective statement.
Because 'X is better than Y' without objective arguments is a subjective statement. If you're not gonna provide them here, that's fine. Nobody is hurt
I think we've perfectly understood each other So following your great example - I'm not gonna continue the 'gcam is better than X' discussion anymore. Thank you for your advice and have a great evening!
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