EDIT: This guy just made my day!! I just made a 47kbit video with this mod to stock camera.
NOW we can close this thread if mods so desire =) Thank you everyone!
So the bitrate on HTC One X's camera is hilariously low.
Videos that it spits out terrible when compared to SGSII which I gave to my wife. Video is just strobbing and wobbling due to it.
I understand that some people have very low quality standards and are satisfied with it, and there were some threads about it here.. but everything kinda died out.
I think hardware is capable of "normal" bitrate, since some market camera apps allow for it.. But can we make a hack to our camera to allow for high bitrates?
I mean, I love the phone.. but what's the point of 1080p video capability if it spits out 10k bitrate? None.
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I understand that some people have very low quality standards and are satisfied with it, and there were some threads about it here.. but everything kinda died out.
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Maybe that should tell you something. Do you think starting a new thread when others are open is going to change anything? It's been acknowledged and is for now a fact of life. What are you expecting to happen? More ranting? A petition perhaps? For those that are desperately miserable with all or parts of the One X, why don't you sell it and get an SGS3? Repetitive ranting here isn't going to change anything no matter how many threads are opened.
Duplicate threads, especially those that are stated as duplicate threads, get closed.
I agree, 720p goes ok, but 1080p stutters a lil bit.. the bitrate should be higher..
tried it with some other apps, like lgCamcorder.. you can select the bitrate and you'll get smoother video (20mbps is enough)
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maybe HTC will eventually bring out an update, wich increases the bitrate of the camera app (hope so)
Maybe that should tell you something. Do you think starting a new thread when others are open is going to change anything? It's been acknowledged and is for now a fact of life. What are you expecting to happen? More ranting? A petition perhaps? For those that are desperately miserable with all or parts of the One X, why don't you sell it and get an SGS3? Repetitive ranting here isn't going to change anything no matter how many threads are opened.
Duplicate threads, especially those that are stated as duplicate threads, get closed.
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Look at you all puffing and pissed off, lol. Angry little creature.
I opened this thread because it's a legitimate question about why aren't those threads getting an attention they deserve. Perhaps people are satisfied with choppy wobbly video that One X produces, perhaps a solution has been found that I'm not aware of. Hence, the thread.
And a related question - What are you expecting to happen by yelling at me for opening this thread? More ranting? For you, desperately miserable and super angry about this thread, why don't you see a shrink - perhaps they can fix you up.
Now unless you got something relevant to contribute to the problem at hand, go rant somewhere else.
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I agree, 720p goes ok, but 1080p stutters a lil bit.. the bitrate should be higher..
tried it with some other apps, like lgCamcorder.. you can select the bitrate and you'll get smoother video (20mbps is enough)
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I remember seeing someone who developed a higher bitrate camera for Sensation trying to make one for HOX.. but not sure what happened there - did he lose interest?
It just surprises me that this isn't discussed much more.
Search for the sense HQcamera mod - when i was running sense i got 29fps at 11-12,000kbps and uncompressed/4-5mb pics BIG difference compared to stock camera. CM9 - im getting 18-19,000kbps with 22fps indoors, will test outdoors later.
It's been talked about A LOT, especially by me in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24993164&postcount=39
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It's been talked about A LOT, especially by me in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24993164&postcount=39
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cool m8, When you look at the results from the mod/apps you think what the hell is HTC thinking.
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It's been talked about A LOT, especially by me in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24993164&postcount=39
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Thank you! I remember looking at that thread, but haven't seen the these results.
mafia187 said:
Search for the sense HQcamera mod - when i was running sense i got 29fps at 11-12,000kbps and uncompressed/4-5mb pics BIG difference compared to stock camera. CM9 - im getting 18-19,000kbps with 22fps indoors, will test outdoors later.
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Yes, I remember that one. Unfortunately, development of it for HOX was stopped, and existing beta mod freeezes up and FCs a lot. I just tried latest 1.3beta for Sense4 - that is indeed the case.
I contacted that developer with a PM, asking him what does he need to fully port that mod for HOX, with 25+mbits for 1080p. If he needs a financial incentive to compensate for his time and effort, I'll get a bounty going here.
So far, only Camera ICS works decently well, without crashing.
LGCamera is on and off kind of thing. About half the time it doesn't record anything - just black video feed.
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Thank you! I remember looking at that thread, but haven't seen the these results.
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I've actually been asked by a XDA member to do some more tests with the current ROM version. Will be doing 720p and 1080p some time soon Been raining these days, not enough sun ):
one thing to open a new thread to "talk about the problem" over and over, another with the purpose of actually solving / improving the issue.
imho i'm tired of discussing the "problem", it has been discussed already to death, that's why the search function is for.
as far as the "solution" goes, there's couple of threads/developments around which (WOW) are linked in the respective "problem" threads....
@OP: there's other alternatives to LgCamera that work well...care to search for them?
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one thing to open a new thread to "talk about the problem" over and over, another with the purpose of actually solving / improving the issue.
imho i'm tired of discussing the "problem", it has been discussed already to death, that's why the search function is for.
as far as the "solution" goes, there's couple of threads/developments around which (WOW) are linked in the respective "problem" threads....
@OP: there's other alternatives to LgCamera that work well...care to search for them?
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And your ranting adds what to the thread?
LGCamera doesn't work very well with HOX. Many times it can't get the feed from camera and won't work until reboot.
Camera ICS is a bad alternative as it's ugly, has adds and has resolution problems.
HDCamera mod doesn't work with HOX.
I did read those threads, that's why I opened this one.
Now, can we stop acting like a new thread costs millions of dollars and move on with the discussion? If you don't want to participate - don't participate. If all you want to do is complain - please avoid this thread kkthnx.
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And your ranting adds what to the thread?
LGCamera doesn't work very well with HOX. Many times it can't get the feed from camera and won't work until reboot.
Camera ICS is a bad alternative as it's ugly, has adds and has resolution problems.
HDCamera mod doesn't work with HOX.
I did read those threads, that's why I opened this one.
Now, can we stop acting like a new thread costs millions of dollars and move on with the discussion? If you don't want to participate - don't participate. If all you want to do is complain - please avoid this thread kkthnx.
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close your eyes when taking a photo so you don't have to see the CameraICS interface...add 1.99$ to the mix and get rid of the ads. there are no resolution problems.
nothing new that hasn't been said before.....
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close your eyes when taking a photo so you don't have to see the CameraICS interface...add 1.99$ to the mix and get rid of the ads. there are no resolution problems.
nothing new that hasn't been said before.....
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'close your eyes when taking a photo'??
... Wow. Just.. Wow.
Could I ask you to please stop trolling this thread? Just... ignore it. Thanks.
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there are no resolution problems.
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I've never mentioned it before, but all those apps at least used to have dodgy aspect ratios when recording video, couldnt find any option to work around it.
Just looked now actually, most recent version of camera ics has fixed that...
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I've never mentioned it before, but all those apps at least used to have dodgy aspect ratios when recording video, couldnt find any option to work around it.
Just looked now actually, most recent version of camera ics has fixed that...
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It still does =(
Just bought a paid version of Camera ICS - tested it out - stretched videos. Had to get a refund immediately.
So Camera ICS isn't a viable option, so is LGCamera that can't even connect to the camera about 80% of the time (tested on several ROMs).
Back at square one =(
45kbit+ video mod for stock camera!!! Seems to be working fine so far. Now I'm happy =)
Seems to be recording at 24fps only. Not smooth enough for me /:
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Seems to be recording at 24fps only. Not smooth enough for me /:
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there was a mod for 29FPS out there, wasn't it?
but bitrate still @ 10-12mbps
pick your poison, will take a genius to combine FPS and bitrate in one mod
Related
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...291737/this-is-how-smooth-the-hero-should-be/
That looks super smooth! It greatly improves the overall experience and will probably lure me back to Rosie in favor of the default home screen
I cant see any difference between that and my hero. I get no lag and switching between screens is just as smooth and fast.
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I cant see any difference between that and my hero. I get no lag and switching between screens is just as smooth and fast.
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yeah, i agree with you. my hero Runs just as fast with no lag And i have the Flipping Clock!
Wait a minute! Now, How do we know thats an actual update coming up?? The video was made by modaco and posted at his website... You can clearly see it contains the superuser app and the market enabler app on the phone. An OFFICIAL VIDEO with the update would never have such apps installed!
Like i said before my hero runs just as fast and i could make a video to prove it.... But this is NO UPDATE PREVIEW OF WHATS COMING UP!
and now im thinking, everytime modaco makes a post in these forums, he links to his website where the actual posts are made... this is not the first time...
Is such promotion allowed on these forums...
Hah, it is a video of the upcoming update!
I do say on the video that i've installed a few apps, and it is rooted (I said that on the first video take (that I corrupted by pulling the SD from the camera!)), not sure about the one I posted.
There are definitely considerable performance improvements in the new ROM, particularly when i've got all my usual stuff installed and running - Rosie remains smooth as butter (which it didn't before!)
Of course I link to my forum where the posts are made, i'm posting here for information!
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I have a pink Hero at the moment, maybe i'll boot them with the same setup and do a comparison vid.
Love the conspiracy theory tho minogue.
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I have a pink Hero at the moment, maybe i'll boot them with the same setup and do a comparison vid.
Love the conspiracy theory tho minogue.
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Well I always try to find out if something is legit!
Fair enough!
It's not really in my interest (or a worthy use of my time) to post about a fake update...
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Hah, it is a video of the upcoming update!
I do say on the video that i've installed a few apps, and it is rooted (I said that on the first video take (that I corrupted by pulling the SD from the camera!)), not sure about the one I posted.
There are definitely considerable performance improvements in the new ROM, particularly when i've got all my usual stuff installed and running - Rosie remains smooth as butter (which it didn't before!)
Of course I link to my forum where the posts are made, i'm posting here for information!
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Paul, I think you're doing an awsome job regarding the Hero!! You're one of the guys posting informative and great guides. Keep on doing that!
Why post the same info twice?? Just link it as you're doing allready!
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Wait a minute! Now, How do we know thats an actual update coming up?? The video was made by modaco and posted at his website... You can clearly see it contains the superuser app and the market enabler app on the phone. An OFFICIAL VIDEO with the update would never have such apps installed!
Like i said before my hero runs just as fast and i could make a video to prove it.... But this is NO UPDATE PREVIEW OF WHATS COMING UP!
and now im thinking, everytime modaco makes a post in these forums, he links to his website where the actual posts are made... this is not the first time...
Is such promotion allowed on these forums...
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Can we see a video of yours, I'm interested
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Fair enough!
It's not really in my interest (or a worthy use of my time) to post about a fake update...
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alright then, ill take what i said back, and i do apologize but Hey like i said that was just me trying to figure out if it was indeed the real upcoming update.
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Can we see a video of yours, I'm interested
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Well my camera isnt the best. Or should i say i dont know how to configure it nicely for best picture quality, but sure. Ill have it up and running in a few hours as me is doing something right now...Ill even pm you when video is ready...
k. i just got done recording the video. i will go ahead and upload it to youtube and then share the link..
I should just point out that now i've installed all my stuff I KNOW it's smoother (and hell, you'd expect it to be, it's a newer build).
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I should just point out that now i've installed all my stuff I KNOW it's smoother (and hell, you'd expect it to be, it's a newer build).
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well im sure the newer build will be alot smoother when it comes out.
Hopefully it comes out soon, however i have made very little to no modifications to my hero to get it running as fast as i have, so im guessing that once i do my own modifications with the newer build ill be able to have things running better and faster than ever!
What is the build no?
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I cant see any difference between that and my hero. I get no lag and switching between screens is just as smooth and fast.
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Same no lag at all here
Hurrah, screen rotation seems to be much faster.
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Hurrah, screen rotation seems to be much faster.
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Hi Paul,
Great to hear that the updated rom improves the performance of the hero.
I'd like to ask if the speed of loading pages in the browser is somewhat improved?
Tx, Harry
Hi Everyone,
I’m new to XDA, so I thought I’d try to make my first post as helpful as I can (I love the noob video on the registration page by the way! )
Anyway…
I was recently taking part in an online discussion with some Android beginners, and a really big topic for them was the new camera app in Sense 4.0 / upcoming HTC One series. Due to the varying knowledge levels of the people and the difficulty of typing out so many replies, I offered to create a video to (attempt to) address many of their questions.
So, with the aid of the S4X ROM from the Virtuous team, I put together a 24 minute video that goes through the included pre-release version of the camera app in Sense 4.0 from start to finish.
Please note that I was asked to go through each and every one of the menu options, while also having to add a walkthrough of the updated panorama feature and include explanations of stuff like ISO etc. For that reason, some of you may find that the video drags on a bit (oh, and I’m no Spielberg either ).
Still, if it helps a small handful of people, it was worth the effort.
HTC One Camera app - pre-release video walkthrough
Cheers,
Bugsy.
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Have done. Thanks for your help!
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Anytime mate Welcome to XDA!
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium
Hey, edited the OP adding the link to the video.
Cheers
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Hi Everyone,
I’m new to XDA, so I thought I’d try to make my first post as helpful as I can (I love the noob video on the registration page by the way! )
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Thanks for sharing and welcome to XDA
I posted a link to your vid in the sample images thread as they are discussing the topic of interface videos there at the moment. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1543802
Hmm, there was something in your video that got me thinking.
You pointed out that an f2.0 camera lens allows twice as much light into the camera than an f2.8 lens would (so 100% more light).
This reminded me that HTC stated that the One X lets in 44% more light than the previous model. Does anyone know which previous model HTC were refering to? I'm guessing it's not the Sensation, because I doubt that has an f2.3 (ish?) lens
Sensation is f2.4, One X is f2.0
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Hmm, there was something in your video that got me thinking.
You pointed out that an f2.0 camera lens allows twice as much light into the camera than an f2.8 lens would (so 100% more light).
This reminded me that HTC stated that the One X lets in 44% more light than the previous model. Does anyone know which previous model HTC were refering to? I'm guessing it's not the Sensation, because I doubt that has an f2.3 (ish?) lens
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In relation to an F2.8 lens, 44% more light does equate to F2.4. Having said that, I can't say that I've ever seen any documentation where HTC have stated that the Sensation has an F2.4 lens. Images don't appear to contain this info embedded in their EXIF data either.
@EddyOS Would you mind telling me how you found this info?
Bugsy
I was able to flash a full Google Edition ROM into my phone which is 100% working with no problems . you will need to be rooted and have an custom recover to get this also you will have to factory reset so a back up will be recommended. I will post on how to do this tomorrow as well as upload the file cause its 1.58gb
Here's my review showing it off:
Samsung Galaxy S4 Google Edition.
This is confirmed working for T-Mobile and at&t only at the moment. There are alit of people working to get this on spring and Verizon.
Everything works , Voice calls, Text, MMS, Camera ,IR Blaster , LTE, Everything. I have no ran into any problems and I'm even rooted.
Hey sounds great. But you should have put this under the General forum. Just a heads up.
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Which specific one are you running?
Sent from my SGH-M919 using XDA Premium HD app
i have a bit of issue with battery it drain too quick thou
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I was able to flash a full Google Edition ROM into my phone which is 100% working with no problems . you will need to be rooted and have an custom recover to get this also you will have to factory reset so a back up will be recommended. I will post on how to do this tomorrow as well as upload the file cause its 1.58gb
Here's my review showing it off:
Samsung Galaxy S4 Google Edition.
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Your post at AF and your Youtube link are misleading. Someone who didn't read this post would think that you're reviewing the actual Google Edition and not a different version running the GPE ROM.
Your question about storage is related to this. The GPE has 12.65GB visible to the user. A non-GPE with the GPE ROM has 9.72GB visible to the user due to partitioning. Until we can get the GPE PIT file to work on a non GPE, this will always be an issue.
Please update your Youtube Video title/description to reference that this is not a GPE, but just a GPE ROM. The storage information is misleading.
Warning about this - original poster is a scammer. He's trolling for hits/likes to his various social media accounts. Video is not of a Google Edition S4 (as he states in his AF and Youtube posts). It's a carrier-branded model with a GPE ROM, and yes, there are differences. The key difference is that of storage. A real GPE has 12.65GB visible to the user. A GPE ROM on a carrier-branded model has 9.72GB visible to the user. Author wasn't wise enough to catch this (in his video, he wonders why it's different). When I first notified the author of this discrepancy, he had the opportunity to come clean about this being a fake review (it's a ROM review, not a phone review, has he has the wrong phone). His response was to block me on Youtube.
In the author's post on XDA he at least admits that this is a custom ROM.
Very misleading... This is a ROM review not a Phone review...
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Very misleading... This is a ROM review not a Phone review...
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Correct. And at first I figured it was a typo or harmless mistake. Since I first notified him, he edited a post on another board, kept the Youtube title the same, and blocked me on youtube. It's obvious now he's trolling for social media hits.
Noticed that it wasn't an actual Google Edition device and he's just doing a ROM review, looking through the comments though it's obvious he's fooled a ton of people. Started looking at his other vids.
6/22 he does a vid on "Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie Concept Art Design & Wishlist"
The video is basically him reading this article from 6/21 verbatim:
http://beatstechnology.blogspot.com/2013/06/appears-concept-android-50-interface.html
Oh Well.
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Noticed that it wasn't an actual Google Edition device and he's just doing a ROM review, looking through the comments though it's obvious he's fooled a ton of people. Started looking at his other vids.
6/22 he does a vid on "Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie Concept Art Design & Wishlist"
The video is basically him reading this article from 6/21 verbatim:
http://beatstechnology.blogspot.com/2013/06/appears-concept-android-50-interface.html
Oh Well.
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I've never seen this site before? and i stated in the first sentence thats its a flashed rom.
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I've never seen this site before? and i stated in the first sentence thats its a flashed rom.
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I just find it odd that the video is using exact sentences that the article includes.
Also the issue isn't in regards to your post it's the YouTube video that people are taking issue with. Nowhere does it include that it's a flashed ROM, it's being passed off as an actual SGS4 Google Edition Phone.
You can see the confusion in your comments section of the video.
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I just find it odd that the video is using exact sentences that the article includes.
Also the issue isn't in regards to your post it's the YouTube video that people are taking issue with. Nowhere does it include that it's a flashed ROM, it's being passed off as an actual SGS4 Google Edition Phone.
You can see the confusion in your comments section of the video.
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No you're right I seen why people would get confused but its also stated in the video , Also mentioned that you could flash it for yourself as well. In all both phones are the same except for the Memory capacity difference.
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No you're right I seen why people would get confused but its also stated in the video , Also mentioned that you could flash it for yourself as well. In all both phones are the same except for the Memory capacity difference.
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You're still faking. First off, the video doesn't state this. You claim that it's an actual GPE. Second of all, you've banned people from posting (and deleted their comments) on Youtube for pointing out that this is a ROM review. Also, there are some minor differences between the GPE and ROM aside from storage. We've seen people complain about lag in the ROM that isn't there with the real GPE. We've seen USB connection issues, wifi connection issues, and other things that need to be fixed in the ROM.
You're aware of this, but you shut down anyone that points it out to you. You're trolling for hits/likes.
EDIT: And let's not forget about this juvenile response;
http://androidforums.com/samsung-ga...35120-my-galaxy-s4-google-edition-review.html
You're aware of what you're doing, and you're still doing it at AF and on Youtube, where the masses either don't notice or aren't aware enough to realize. You're taking a different tone here because you've been busted by multiple people. If this really was a "mistake" as you seem to allude, you would have corrected the title and description on the Youtube video to indicate that this is a GEP ROM loaded onto an S4.
In the video, you clearly state: "doing a quick review and a first look at the Google edition for the Samsung Galaxy S4." You never imply that this is a ROM on the phone.
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You're still faking. First off, the video doesn't state this. You claim that it's an actual GPE. Second of all, you've banned people from posting (and deleted their comments) on Youtube for pointing out that this is a ROM review. Also, there are some minor differences between the GPE and ROM aside from storage. We've seen people complain about lag in the ROM that isn't there with the real GPE. We've seen USB connection issues, wifi connection issues, and other things that need to be fixed in the ROM.
You're aware of this, but you shut down anyone that points it out to you. You're trolling for hits/likes.
EDIT: And let's not forget about this juvenile response;
http://androidforums.com/samsung-ga...35120-my-galaxy-s4-google-edition-review.html
You're aware of what you're doing, and you're still doing it at AF and on Youtube, where the masses either don't notice or aren't aware enough to realize. You're taking a different tone here because you've been busted by multiple people. If this really was a "mistake" as you seem to allude, you would have corrected the title and description on the Youtube video to indicate that this is a GEP ROM loaded onto an S4.
In the video, you clearly state: "doing a quick review and a first look at the Google edition for the Samsung Galaxy S4." You never imply that this is a ROM on the phone.
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No just you, I keep everyone elses comments cause they don't spam every single little thing. and I do mention it, I state that ill make a video on how to do this to your phone , at the end.
Can the M8 shoot Raw in lollipop ?
If yes can someone post a sample of both front and rear camera.
Need Samples to extract data to fix raw for the non GPE m8 still on kit kat
thanks .
Bumping as I have the same question.
I am running CM12 nightly based on Android 5.0.2 and I would love to be able to shoot RAW with my HTC ONE M8.
I'm a photographer, and as far as I know the cameras on phones don't have that... RAW capability because they lack the sensor that RAW uses. However it seems theirs an app that does its best to use the sensors on the camera to get RAW (Just not as good as a standard camera)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.pro
download it and give it a try?
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I'm a photographer, and as far as I know the cameras on phones don't have that... RAW capability because they lack the sensor that RAW uses. However it seems theirs an app that does its best to use the sensors on the camera to get RAW (Just not as good as a standard camera)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.pro
download it and give it a try?
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I guess this app won't work. I wont risk my money just to try it.
* Requires Android 5.0+ and a fully compliant Camera2 implementation. Currently only LG Nexus 5 and Motorola Nexus 6.
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I guess this app won't work. I wont risk my money just to try it.
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Thats true, you could always get a refund but... its iffy. I'm currently beating on that HTC hasn't implemented a RAW update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760705
Raw capability is nothing to do with the sensor! On any camera or phone! It just means the device stores the data created by the sensor as it is captured, rather than post processing the output and compressing it to a jpg file!
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Raw capability is nothing to do with the sensor! On any camera or phone! It just means the device stores the data created by the sensor as it is captured, rather than post processing the output and compressing it to a jpg file!
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"Thanks" for bumping a thread that has been dead for 9 months, so you can not-answer the questions posed by the OP.
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"Thanks" for bumping a thread that has been dead for 9 months, so you can not-answer the questions posed by the OP.
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You are welcome - Maybe now it will get answered!
This is the problem with forums around the interweb... Threads that are left open with incorrect information in them - Is it any wonder people struggle to find the correct information they require. Or spend hours reading multipage threads that don't help.
I also hate it when forum lurkers jump on people for not using google - It's usually google that brought them their in the first place! If you know the answer already exists, link them to it, if not keep the sarcasm to yourself! Or at least give them a specific search term to use in google!
If someone in the street asked you where the nearest post office was, would you feck them off with a 'go search google', or would you help them out??? If lots of people asked you this question obviously there is a problem with signage. Its way to easy to be flippant when sat behind a keyboard and monitor! Treat people on the net the way you would in person!
If the thread is too old to reply to, it should be closed! If it is solved it should be closed! If not, which it isn't, keep your waste of characters to yourself! My post may well be late, but it was factual and OT if not an answer to the OP, it was correcting a misconception of the OP that RAW capability is something sensor specific, when infact it is software and memory speed/capacity specific!
RAW capture is basically that, your saving the 'raw' data stream as it came from the sensor, and not a compressed and lossy version/interpretation of that data! For that you usually need high speed and fairly large capacity RAM/storage.
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I also hate it when forum lurkers jump on people for not using google - It's usually google that brought them their in the first place! If you know the answer already exists, link them to it, if not keep the sarcasm to yourself! Or at least give them a specific search term to use in google!
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"Forum lurker", that's funny. My credentials speak for themselves as a helpful member of this community.
I never said anything about using Google, so you seem to be making up stuff in your head. Or incorrectly transposing your some other previous negative experience onto me.
You're getting far too defensive. I didn't insult you or call you names (which is more than can be said for you - the irony in your "hiding behind the keyboard" statement). I simply pointed out, entirely factually, that you dug up an old obscure thread, and then didn't even answer the main question posed. I tiny bit of sarcasm with the quotes around "Thank you" but that's it.
Its not anything I would shy away from saying to someone's face IRL.
And expecting someone to use some common sense when posting is hardly asking too much.
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"Forum lurker", that's funny. My credentials speak for themselves as a helpful member of this community.
I never said anything about using Google, so you seem to be making up stuff in your head. Or incorrectly transposing your some other previous negative experience onto me.
You're getting far too defensive. I didn't insult you or call you names (which is more than can be said for you - the irony in your "hiding behind the keyboard" statement). I simply pointed out, entirely factually, that you dug up an old obscure thread, and then didn't even answer the main question posed. I tiny bit of sarcasm with the quotes around "Thank you" but that's it.
Its not anything I would shy away from saying to someone's face IRL.
And expecting someone to use some common sense when posting is hardly asking too much.
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I did bring up some generic forum fails, and those comments admittedly were never intended to be directed at you personally.
For that sir please accept my apologies.
I had been trying to find something and had spent a few hours trawling threads to no avail. I have been a member of many forums going back almost 20 years, and all too many times have I seen long term members being hostile to 'new' or less knowledgeable people because they can't google - well google is now over run with search results from forum threads that lead nowhere because of this very attitude. Perpetuating the problem!
It was the thing about the thread being old, I've seen it many times before. SO WHAT, its old!
Isaac Newtons theories are old, but if someone today found something that required a correction, do you think they wouldn't bother?
The information I added to this 'old' thread is relevant and may be even educational to anyone else who may stumble upon it.
Maybe admins should automatically lock threads older than 3 months?!?! Would that be a good thing - Probably not!
I will leave it at that now, and be sure not to post on here in anything less than a current thread!
Is it possible to update htc 10 camera app to a newer version (it currently is 8.6 something on oreo stock ) . As far as I know there is a 9.* version. Is there a way to use a newer version of htc camera that better utilizes the sensor or the best way is to find a good enough google camera app ( since many are buggy )
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leodiavata said:
Is it possible to update htc 10 camera app to a newer version (it currently is 8.6 something on oreo stock ) . As far as I know there is a 9.* version. Is there a way to use a newer version of htc camera that better utilizes the sensor or the best way is to find a good enough google camera app ( since many are buggy )
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Yes. Install one of the UpDates from HTC Camera.
Ehm did not really work. Get an error app not installed during installation.
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Yes. Install one of the UpDates from HTC Camera.
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Did not really work. Get an error during installation of any version . App not installed.
Apologies
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Did not really work. Get an error during installation of any version . App not installed.
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My humblest apologies for being so late on this -but- you can try these two apps from Google Play:
Camera FV-5 Lite and
Cinema FV-5 Lite
There are also Pro versions which will cost you some dollars.
They have lots of settings. The HTC camera did both the stills and videos but these are two separate apps.
Take care,
-Chuck
Is there any port of HTC Cameara making it work on ROMs without Sense like LOS?
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Is there any port of HTC Cameara making it work on ROMs without Sense like LOS?
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How would that be possible without the sense framework ?
Los no sense = no sense framework layer.
If it would be possible it would have been done years ago .....
This actually installs on crdroid N.
Can't say for O, P, Q
But gcam takes far better shots.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/themes/htc-sense-s10s-t3917979
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How would that be possible without the sense framework ?
Los no sense = no sense framework layer.
If it would be possible it would have been done years ago .....
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Sense Framework is just a set of native libs + APKs.
When you need to port an app using them, you just have to "bake" them into your app's APK. So instead of using system-wide installed stuff, a ported app would use the ones from its own APK.
The only major two issues are poorer compatibility of such app across Android SDK versions and larger APK size compared to the original APK targetted a system with pre-installed Sense.
Actually, HTC has published a set of its Sense apps available for any device already.
And fortunately, HTC Camera works on LOS 16
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This actually installs on crdroid N.
Can't say for O, P, Q
But gcam takes far better shots.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/themes/htc-sense-s10s-t3917979
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Thank you the link, I didn't know about this port.
What do you mean by "gcam takes far better shots"? If you're talking about image quality it depends solely on camera's hardware quality (which obviously is the same in both cases) + a set of settings a camera app sends to the hardware for taking an image.
How a generic gcam written to work with any cameras from horrible ones to best-of-breed (thus having multitude of compromises in its source code) could send better settings to the HTC OEM hardware compared to a HTC's own native Camera app on HTC device?
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Sense Framework is just a set of native libs + APKs.
When you need to port an app using them, you just have to "bake" them into your app's APK. So instead of using system-wide installed stuff, a ported app would use the ones from its own APK.
The only major two issues are poorer compatibility of such app across Android SDK versions and larger APK size compared to the original APK targetted a system with pre-installed Sense.
Actually, HTC has published a set of its Sense apps available for any device already.
And fortunately, HTC Camera works on LOS 16
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Thank you the link, I didn't know about this port.
What do you mean by "gcam takes far better shots"? If you're talking about image quality it depends solely on camera's hardware quality (which obviously is the same in both cases) + a set of settings a camera app sends to the hardware for taking an image.
How a generic gcam written to work with any cameras from horrible ones to best-of-breed (thus having multitude of compromises in its source code) could send better settings to the HTC OEM hardware compared to a HTC's own native Camera app on HTC device?
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lmao
don't know or care
a thank you doesn't hurt either.
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lmao
don't know or care
a thank you doesn't hurt either.
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Ok, just checking since in your OP you've said it so that I've thought there are objective measures why gcam would produce better shots than HTC Cam.
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Ok, just checking since in your OP you've said it so that I've thought there are objective measures why gcam would produce better shots than HTC Cam.
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LOL dude, OP stands for "Opening Post" and that's not me.
And I have nothing to do with gcam development, like literally what are you talking about bro?
Try them both out.. I didn't have to find that htc camera app for you and I have no interest in using it..
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Ok, just checking since in your OP you've said it so that I've thought there are objective measures why gcam would produce better shots than HTC Cam.
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Hold on, you are asking why you can’t use HTC sense camera on non sense ROMs yet HTC camera works on Los which is a non sense ROM..... if that is so why do you ask such a question ?
That is a massive contradiction.........making it so that your initial question doesn’t stand ground at all.
Cheers, enjoy the htc camera
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Ok, just checking since in your OP you've said it so that I've thought there are objective measures why gcam would produce better shots than HTC Cam.
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You know, you could Google for an explanation instead of going after @andybones, the person that tried to help you out with a great suggestion.
If you take a little time you'll see that the gcam ports are omnipresent, every single device subforum has a request or a thread for one. To answer your question, it's been known for a while now that the hardware isn't the only, or even main determining factor for image quality in smartphones, and Google showed that better then anyone with the Pixel lineup. Those devices have inferior camera hardware, but shoot the absolute best pics. And it's all down to the software processing that the camera app has, which still works with the ports, even with the shortcuts and loss of features that are expected.
Go ahead and give it a try, I actually came back to this forum looking for the port so I can install it on my mom's HTC 10 since the stock camera is pretty underwhelming
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LOL dude, OP stands for "Opening Post" and that's not me.
And I have nothing to do with gcam development, like literally what are you talking about bro?
Try them both out.. I didn't have to find that htc camera app for you and I have no interest in using it..
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@andybones Oh, sorry! I've made an outrageous mistake by typing 'your OP' instead of 'your answer to me'. Not everyone has perfect English here. Excuse me, sir! Thank you for letting me know what's OP acronym stands for!
I haven'r said you have something to do with gcam development. Let me repeat myself:
>>> You've said it so that I've thought there are objective measures why gcam would produce better shots than HTC Cam.
That's all what I've meant to say you in response.
If I'd get objective arguments instead of personal opinions why gcam could be better and in which respects, I'll definitely try it out and only if those respects would be important to me.
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Hold on, you are asking why you can’t use HTC sense camera on non sense ROMs yet HTC camera works on Los which is a non sense ROM..... if that is so why do you ask such a question ?
That is a massive contradiction.........making it so that your initial question doesn’t stand ground at all.
Cheers, enjoy the htc camera
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Wow Did you know that Sense apps could (and are) ported on non-Sense ROMs?
If you did not, do a research on this topic before commenting on something you know little about.
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it's been known for a while now that the hardware isn't the only, or even main determining factor for image quality
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I haven't said 'only'. Instead, I added the following '+' clause to my initialstatement:
>>> image quality it depends solely on camera's hardware quality (which obviously is the same in both cases) + a set of settings a camera app sends to the hardware for taking an image.
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Google showed that better then anyone with the Pixel lineup. Those devices have inferior camera hardware, but shoot the absolute best pics. And it's all down to the software processing that the camera app has, which still works with the ports
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If gcam was absolute best with Pixel hardware, why do we know it'd be absolute best with any other random hardware like HTC 10 hardware?
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@andybones Oh, sorry! I've made an outrageous mistake by typing 'your OP' instead of 'your answer to me'. Not everyone has perfect English here. Excuse me, sir! Thank you for letting me know what's OP acronym stands for!
I haven'r said you have something to do with gcam development. Let me repeat myself:
>>> You've said it so that I've thought there are objective measures why gcam would produce better shots than HTC Cam.
That's all what I've meant to say you in response.
If I'd get objective arguments instead of personal opinions why gcam could be better and in which respects, I'll definitely try it out and only if those respects would be important to me.
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Wow Did you know that Sense apps could (and are) ported on non-Sense ROMs?
If you did not, do a research on this topic before commenting on something you know little about.
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I haven't said 'only'. Instead, I added the following '+' clause to my initialstatement:
>>> image quality it depends solely on camera's hardware quality (which obviously is the same in both cases) + a set of settings a camera app sends to the hardware for taking an image.
If gcam was absolute best with Pixel hardware, why do we know it'd be absolute best with any other random hardware like HTC 10 hardware?
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I don't care enough to get wound up, so I'll put this as nice and clearly as I can for you.
#1 - here at XDA this is an ENGLISH ONLY forum, so no you aren't excused.
#2 - yes, OP stands for ONE thing here. Opening Post. Not whatever you come up with as type.
#3- do us all a favor and go read the rules.
#4- I can't even begin to tell you how ridiculous you sound using MY SEACHING and answer to be petty to others. How about you go and search. If you did, I wouldn't of needed to hand feed you and be here dealing with you.
#5- it amazes me that you honestly think that anyone is going to stumble on this post and be like yeaa, let's help this guy out. No. You literally just saved everyone a lot of trouble and their time.
I said try them both, that's not being objective.
This is a joke.
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I don't care enough to get wound up, so I'll put this as nice and clearly as I can for you.
#1 - here at XDA this is an ENGLISH ONLY forum, so no you aren't excused.
#2 - yes, OP stands for ONE thing here. Opening Post. Not whatever you come up with as type.
#3- do us all a favor and go read the rules.
#4- I can't even begin to tell you how ridiculous you sound using MY SEACHING and answer to be petty to others. How about you go and search. If you did, I wouldn't of needed to hand feed you and be here dealing with you.
#5- it amazes me that you honestly think that anyone is going to stumble on this post and be like yeaa, let's help this guy out. No. You literally just saved everyone a lot of trouble and their time.
I said try them both, that's not being objective.
This is a joke.
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All you're saying is so sad to hear You make me really feel my quilt. But I promise you I will do my best to correct all the things you've mentioned above! Hopefully, you'd excuse me one day seeing my effort to become a better human being...
Also, next time when somebody would ask me about a 'camera app X port' in a topic dedicated to that canera X app, I'd answer 'Dude, camera app Y is the best, But don't ask me why. Use Google to prove my own opinion'.
Thank you fir this lesson, too! Is this also a rule in your XDA rule set?
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That's fair enough.
I just attempted to get your objective arguments on your subjective statement.
Because 'X is better than Y' without objective arguments is a subjective statement. If you're not gonna provide them here, that's fine. Nobody is hurt
I think we've perfectly understood each other So following your great example - I'm not gonna continue the 'gcam is better than X' discussion anymore. Thank you for your advice and have a great evening!
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