Sense is RAM-hungry like a wolf! - HTC One X

guys, just to show you how hungry is Sense in RAM usage
i stopped all apps and still ~700 MB of RAM still used? wth
anyways, the phone is still snappy and very smooth even with many apps running, i was just surprised how hungry like a wolf Sense is
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Do you think you could post a video of yourself playing with the browser? I have one preordered and would like to see how it performs as that is one of the only reasons why I am upgrading from my Nexus One.

RAM is there to be used. As long as you don't experience any out of memory issues and RAM gets freed up when it's needed, any less usage would be a complete waste of memory.

I never found the task manager useful when I had my old Sensation.
The task manager cannot tell the amount of RAM used by active processes (apps) and those been cached. I'd bet half of the RAM are used by cached app, which Android will empty in reverse order if it need more RAM, best go to running process in App section of settings to find out the REAL RAM usage.
P.S. I think there is a setting in the Dev section where you can have a pop up message when RAM is low (80mb).

PsiAdster said:
Do you think you could post a video of yourself playing with the browser? I have one preordered and would like to see how it performs as that is one of the only reasons why I am upgrading from my Nexus One.
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don't worry all apps including browser are insanely smooth, been burning-in my phone, i drained it in 4 hours after a full charge, with continuous trying of games, browser on wifi and 3G, watching movies, chatting and etc.
and like what others said, "unused RAM is a wasted RAM"
never felt or saw any lag so far
my sony Arc is now begging for some attention, i think i cannot go back to any low-specced device after experiencing this BEASTLY one X!

Eggcake said:
RAM is there to be used. As long as you don't experience any out of memory issues and RAM gets freed up when it's needed, any less usage would be a complete waste of memory.
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^What he said^
For what do you need more than 300 MB RAM?
Just to clear you up, it doesn't matter if the RAM is used or not, it does not affect on the battery life.

Rycon33 said:
don't worry all apps including browser are insanely smooth, been burning-in my phone, i drained it in 4 hours after a full charge, with continuous trying of games, browser on wifi and 3G, watching movies, chatting and etc.
and like what others said, "unused RAM is a wasted RAM"
never felt or saw any lag so far
my sony Arc is now begging for some attention, i think i cannot go back to any low-specced device after experiencing this BEASTLY one X!
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Appreciate it, still would like to see a video, though.

How about you use a real task killer instead of a no good built in bloat? Download advanced task killer from play store and see where it takes you.
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djolebih said:
How about you use a real task killer instead of a no good built in bloat? Download advanced task killer from play store and see where it takes you.
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You do know task killers drain more your battery right?

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You do know task killers drain more your battery right?
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And also kill services that are needed by android os sometimes from what I remember.
Just don't use them folks. Like already suggested, use the developer options to set a limit to the amount of background processes that can run if free ram concerns you so much

hehe, i remember thinking the same thing as you OP. Then i pressed the refresh button and it jumped to 420mb free. But yeh, i do agree that Sense 4 isn't exactly light. But hey, its not as bad as previous versions.

Cant some of the sense features be turned off?

I got 430 mb free ram after killing all apps from sense task manger, this on a stock device without any app installed on.

b-george said:
I got 430 mb free ram after killing all apps from sense task manger, this on a stock device without any app installed on.
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I got 397 running on my DHD and 484 last time I checked on my One X....

This doesn't sound good. I do all my phone web browsing in "desktop" mode as mobile versions of sites often are ****. I use opera mobile and easily use up 120-140 mb ram with "only" 4 tabs. Fortunately opera has the possibility to enable an exit button that clears everything before exiting, but if I don't want to lose a tab yet I have to close the other tabs so the phone don't get sluggish. I have an LG optimus black with 512 mb ram but I'm soon getting the one X.

I don't understand how this works tbh.
I fail to see how Sense 4 takes more ram than Sense 3.6 considering it's "meant" to be more slimline.
Is this just the nature of all Android devices perhaps being portrayed wrong by the task killer?

When I kill everything from task manager I got this. Sometimes I got +500mb free ram.

Has anybody with a one X had Sense restarts? This was my biggest issue with the Sensation where after doing memory heavy tasks like web browsing a ton when you went to the home screen it would have to reload Sense since Android dumped it from memory to create space for apps. I really hate this and its been a problem on HTC phones for a while.
Fyi. 256MB or so of your memory is allocated for graphics so you're starting off with 744MB and so 200-300MB of that is used by the kernel and running services. Having 300MB-400MB free is perfectly normal. My Nexus has 350MB free on average and there's no Sense.
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Has anybody with a one X had Sense restarts? This was my biggest issue with the Sensation where after doing memory heavy tasks like web browsing a ton when you went to the home screen it would have to reload Sense since Android dumped it from memory to create space for apps. I really hate this and its been a problem on HTC phones for a while.
Fyi. 256MB or so of your memory is allocated for graphics so you're starting off with 744MB and so 200-300MB of that is used by the kernel and running services. Having 300MB-400MB free is perfectly normal. My Nexus has 350MB free on average and there's no Sense.
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I haven't encountered any homescreen redraw on my normal usage.
Except when I tried(for fun) opening 5 or 6 videos at the same time(using stick it player), and surely the homescreen redrew, hehe expected because of little RAM left for Sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt1pnyYJP7E

If i check the ICS task manager and kill everything.
First thing that starts up is Flickr (8mb).
I never use Flickr, don't have an account.
I don't need to know more, that's just wrong.

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Official ROM memory leak?

I started using the official WM6 ROM when it was released. It has been very stable but I start noticing that each time I stopped all programs, the available program memory gets smaller and smaller. Does others notice this problem?
Rotaflex
even other cooked rom has the same behaviour. it has been like that since the earliest PocketPC os.
IE cached files take up memory
Try deleting the IE browser cached files, that may be the problem.
IE -> Tools -> Options -> Memory -> Delete Files
Compare the free memory before and after ...
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Try deleting the IE browser cached files, that may be the problem.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm certain it's not the IE browser cached files. I don't surf the web with the gadget.
I guess it's a problem that everyone just live with?
Hi, I agree with alanchia67 that this has always been there. Some roms seem better than others, but all have some inefficiency of garbage collection. (an issue with the OS) In the past I made a habit of soft-resetting every night to keep performance and stability up. Lately, I haven't needed to worry about it as much.
Memory Leak
I did different test, closing and opening applications and take a look at the free memory. I suspect the email software that comes with Microsoft is big culprit? I have to keep resetting the device to free up memory. Does anyone has similar experience?
Are you ppl are on crack?, I get well over a week uptime, and haven't hard reset in months, the only maintenance I perform is clearing the browser cache from within pocket IE, and that isn't even something that truly has to be done.
I always wonder why stability is even asked about in these latest roms, Im running an older than dirt version compared to what is out there now...I can't imagine it is actually better, and the only issue that causes me to have to power it off, is when the hardware keyboard decides to quit working, and that's a hardware issue.
No fancy task manager, just have a proper shortcut to the running programs screen, and my keys are so worn down from usage, that there is hardly any paint on them, the spacebar is cracked in half, and three of them have corners missing, so don't go trying to blame MS the problem is the user.
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Are you ppl are on crack?, I get well over a week uptime, and haven't hard reset in months, the only maintenance I perform is clearing the browser cache from within pocket IE, and that isn't even something that truly has to be done.
I always wonder why stability is even asked about in these latest roms, Im running an older than dirt version compared to what is out there now...I can't imagine it is actually better, and the only issue that causes me to have to power it off, is when the hardware keyboard decides to quit working, and that's a hardware issue.
No fancy task manager, just have a proper shortcut to the running programs screen, and my keys are so worn down from usage, that there is hardly any paint on them, the spacebar is cracked in half, and three of them have corners missing, so don't go trying to blame MS the problem is the user.
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I read this thread a couple times and i dont think anyone here is complaining about stability, its more of a memory leak issue thats on going with these roms! I too experience this with all the roms ive tried, and noticed the more ram available, the more quick and efficient the rom runs. No ones on crack here man!
Try using a memory hibernation program In order to regain back memory
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
Hope It works for you
It worked for me like 3 years and still going....
Princeasi, I was just talking about stability, cause it was mentioned by Ed, that he has to softreset reset everynight to keep performance and stbility up.
But ok...Ill stick to the topic at hand, there is no memory leak, closing programs restores the memory usage to normal levels, I might boot up with 40%, and in a weeks time, its only at 50%, that's hardly a memory leak.
If you guys wanna see real memory leaks, go download one of the early alpha versions of Longhorn aka Vista, it will run itself completely out of memory, and shutdown in under 8 hrs.
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Princeasi, I was just talking about stability, cause it was mentioned by Ed, that he has to softreset reset everynight to keep performance and stbility up.
But ok...Ill stick to the topic at hand, there is no memory leak, closing programs restores the memory usage to normal levels, I might boot up with 40%, and in a weeks time, its only at 50%, that's hardly a memory leak.
If you guys wanna see real memory leaks, go download one of the early alpha versions of Longhorn aka Vista, it will run itself completely out of memory, and shutdown in under 8 hrs.
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Well congratulations, you're the only one out there without memory leaks...
Just kidding, but I just can't believe you don't have memory leaks when you use the most common applications.
Wich ROM do you use, any memory or task managers?
pietrucci said:
I just can't believe you don't have memory leaks when you use the most common applications.
Wich ROM do you use, any memory or task managers?
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I can't agree more, checking messages, that's what I experience memory leak. Unless someone buys a Hermes and just use it for a phone. You probably won't have memory leak then.
Memory leak or no memory leak. Reset your device once a day for a better perfomance. That's what MS Windows OSes need.
Hi,
Clear Temp its a nice Tool to delete temporary files etc., see screen shots.
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ClearTemp only free up a very small amount of memory. I am surprise we have to keep living with soft-reset everyday? I doubt iPhone needs that everyday?
ChaoticDruid said:
Are you ppl are on crack?, and my keys are so worn down from usage, that there is hardly any paint on them, the spacebar is cracked in half, the problem is the user.
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Dont say crack if you dont have any to share
Memory Leak
Is there a fix to memory leak? This thing is driving me crazy.
rotaflex said:
Is there a fix to memory leak? This thing is driving me crazy.
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All MS products have memory, thats why we shut and reboot pcs every so often, or else it will tend to get slower...
Same thing with WM6, they do have memory leaks, and it depends on which ROM you are running...
I noticed that Official OS have a lot of memory leak, also the memory leak increases as you add more programs to your device...
I might be called CRACK , but this is my opinion.
PS: Running Schap's 3.57a, it seems to have better memory than the official ROM.
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Dont say crack if you dont have any to share
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I think he's upset that his keys are physically cracked
You guys are F*&%IN NUTZ. I LOVE IT!!

is it better to move all apps/system/cache/data to sd-ext?

hi,
i was moving all apps/system/data/cache files to ext2 partition of my old device (samsung spica i5700) because of it is too slow. is it better to do it again on my desire z or not? or is only moving apps enough to get better speed?
Uh not an expert but I don't think its needed. Definitely doesn't make the phone faster. All that only seem needed on old phones.
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Deadly Sto(R)m said:
hi,
i was moving all apps/system/data/cache files to ext2 partition of my old device (samsung spica i5700) because of it is too slow. is it better to do it again on my desire z or not? or is only moving apps enough to get better speed?
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a2sd is entirely useless on newer android offerings.
what were the reasons for a2sd's inception?
- not enough ram (swap, compcache)
- not enough internal memory (move apps to ext partition)
well, now that we have enough ram and enough internal memory, anyone who tells you you'll benefit from utilizing the sd card as ram/additional storage is flat out wrong. it's always preferable to keep things simple... a2sd is another complication in the system and at this point will only do more harm than good.
still boggles my mind that some devs are wrapping up A2SD into their roms... and I've never received an answer from any of them regarding how it is useful.
The previous poster is correct. I had to use A2D on my T-Mobile G1 because I kept on running out of internal storage. However on my T-Mobile G2 I haven't had any issues due to the large internal storage.
If you are running out of space, move the apps that don't run constantly in the background or use often. Or just get rid of the apps you don't use anymore.
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Bharakrama said:
The previous poster is correct. I had to use A2D on my T-Mobile G1 because I kept on running out of internal storage. However on my T-Mobile G2 I haven't had any issues due to the large internal storage.
If you are running out of space, move the apps that don't run constantly in the background or use often. Or just get rid of the apps you don't use anymore.
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I cannot remember from where but I read to not to use task killer applications. it said those types of programmes force to close applications and android system forces to open them again; and android is already clever to manage applications which is necessary and not. is this true?
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Is second value normal? I have no idea what it means and how it only has just 50 mb left. How can i increase free memory?
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Deadly Sto(R)m said:
Is second value normal? I have no idea what it means and how it only has just 50 mb left. How can i increase free memory?
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super tiny picture.
All the task killer app does is take up more memory and drain your battery. Android has gotten better since I'd say 2.2 at reclaiming memory taken up by applications when you are no longer using them. Also it would help if you uploaded a larger picture as it's impossible to see what your talking about.
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super tiny picture.
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I am sorry, i added ths picture from XDA android app and didn't check it back. I wonder why Android OS (i don't know if it is ram or not) doesn't have more MB.
here is bigger than old one.
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Deadly Sto(R)m said:
I am sorry, i added ths picture from XDA android app and didn't check it back. I wonder why Android OS (i don't know if it is ram or not) doesn't have more MB.
here is bigger than old one.
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'Android OS' is your ROM image, your OS, system, built-in apps, etc.. The only reason why its close to full is because you're running Sense, which is a HUGE ROM that takes up a lot of your OS space. (For example, running CM7 (AOSP based) I have 267mb free on my System ROM space).
'Internal data' is where your apps are being installed. That's your free space to install apps on built-into the phone. Unless that's full or critically low, don't worry about it.
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'Android OS' is your ROM image, your OS, system, built-in apps, etc.. The only reason why its close to full is because you're running Sense, which is a HUGE ROM that takes up a lot of your OS space. (For example, running CM7 (AOSP based) I have 267mb free on my System ROM space).
'Internal data' is where your apps are being installed. That's your free space to install apps on built-into the phone. Unless that's full or critically low, don't worry about it.
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I know sense based roms are slower than aosp roms. will second bar increase or decrease by installing apps or not?
Deadly Sto(R)m said:
I know sense based roms are slower than aosp roms. will second bar increase or decrease by installing apps or not?
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The bar is just how much of the 'System' space is getting taken up by your ROM. Just let it be. You're not going to make Sense any faster by messing with the System partition or the Internal partition. They're both internal storage, just being allotted differently to each side.
I'm not expressing how Sense is slower than AOSP, I'm expressing that Sense is LARGE, like in file size. There's a ton of extra mb of data in Sense that all takes up space inside the internal storage. Android is doing its job here, its putting the ROM in the System partition, the apps in the Internal storage, and larger apps on SDcard storage (the latter of which is the only one you can/should change by moving to internal storage).
The apps you download from the Market are being put on 'Internal' (or SD), not in 'System'.

[Q] Best optimizations for 3D gaming

Right now I'm running FXP054 with the kernel OC'd to 1.4GHz. I also have cut down on a lot of running services in the background through the Autostarts app [ https://market.android.com/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts ].
What would be the best governor, I/O scheduler, & OC for the CM7.2.0 CDMA kernel?
What build.prop settings should I apply to get the most out of 3D gaming?
Any other options/settings/apps that I should be aware of for better gaming performance in general on my Xperia Play?
I'd greatly appreciate any insight. Thanks.
Download the Ram Manager pro app from the market. Use the default balance option when not gaming and use the hard gaming option when gaming.
I've tried all tweaks and zips and governors and everything possible. This application has made the biggest difference so far. Especially the lock home launcher option.
How much of a difference between that & the v6 Supercharged script in terms of performance?
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How much of a difference between that & the v6 Supercharged script in terms of performance?
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Night and day. It's very difficult to give empirical evidence, so metaphors are about the best you'll get from me
V6 supercharger had zero to little effect overall. It did lock the launcher SOMETIMES, but other than that had very little effect on performance.
Ram manager pro is giving me a lot of performance and the different profiles are very clear and understandable. Unlike the vague and ambiguous settings on the supercharger.
I'll have to try that app out. How well does it do with Gameloft games? I tried Asphalt 6 last night & it ran well for a while until it decided to slow to a crawl on screen. I'm aiming to get a consistent gaming experience regardless of 2D or 3D.
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Download the Ram Manager pro app from the market. Use the default balance option when not gaming and use the hard gaming option when gaming.
I've tried all tweaks and zips and governors and everything possible. This application has made the biggest difference so far. Especially the lock home launcher option.
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That app actually doess nothing at all for the launcher.
Its the grouping shift without changing a single priority.
Its all about aggressive task killing without user input and that's it.
Use Update 9 RC4 as it has more options for high ram devices and makes recommendations based on ram.
Sounds like you used Update 8.
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That app actually doess nothing at all for the launcher.
Its the grouping shift without changing a single priority.
Its all about aggressive task killing without user input and that's it.
Use Update 9 RC4 as it has more options for high ram devices and makes recommendations based on ram.
Sounds like you used Update 8.
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Thanks for the insight.
You're welcome
I really dislike it that people are being mislead into believing that it actually does something for the launcher.
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You're welcome
I really dislike it that people are being mislead into believing that it actually does something for the launcher.
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I did indeed use update 8. I will give the latest a try.
You say it does nothing for the launcher but I'm seeing some fantastic results i.e the launcher literally never dies.
It had to redraw once after playing modern combat 3, and the whole phone slowed to a crawl unexpectedly for 10 seconds and then back to normal. Other than that the application has been great.
Using the script, the launcher died regardless of which setting I chose even when it said I had a "hard to kill" launcher or whatever. It would work for a while but redraws were too common. Also, all tutorials seemed based around motorola phones so I had difficulty finding what options would suit mine the best.
Regardless, I'm grateful for fantastic devs like you, and this script is undeniably innovative. Expect a donation at the end of the month
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IGNORE EVERYTHING I SAID EARLIER, HOLY CRAP UPDATE 9 RC4 IS DAMN GOOD.
Seriously, I uninstalled Ram Manager pro, it's totally unnecessary.
Supercharger update 9 RC4 using option 6 has been flawless for me.
ah yes U9 is much improved.
If you can spare the ram, just bulletproof the sucker
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ah yes U9 is much improved.
If you can spare the ram, just bulletproof the sucker
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What apps should be bullet-proofed? I'm using script for the purpose of getting better gaming performance.
I just uploaded an RC5 test so try that
I meant the launcher... so if you eve get any redraw, pick bulletproof launcher so it can't be killed but then again if you don't have enough ram to load big games then the default die hard launcher is good enough... it should still almost never happen.
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I just uploaded an RC5 test so try that
I meant the launcher... so if you eve get any redraw, pick bulletproof launcher so it can't be killed but then again if you don't have enough ram to load big games then the default die hard launcher is good enough... it should still almost never happen.
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Where do you have the RC5 sh located at? I checked your beta page for it & don't see it.
Ah.. it's on the last page of the thread... I plan on having a newer one up soon so I uploaded it for a little bit of testing but it's really solid as is
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Ah.. it's on the last page of the thread... I plan on having a newer one up soon so I uploaded it for a little bit of testing but it's really solid as is
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I started using RC5-test last night. It works really well. I noticed that it now has the Cust-OOM calc settings, which I'll apply tonight & see how it runs.
I really like how well done it is. I'll have to test out a few games this week.
Thamks
If you go to custOOMizer it will ask if you want to load the calculated values so that you only have to say yes or no lol
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Thamks
If you go to custOOMizer it will ask if you want to load the calculated values so that you only have to say yes or no lol
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Even easier, I was thinking I would have to record the values & make sure I got it right.
Hi Zeppelin!
I would to test now Update 9 RC5. What ins the best Option for Play. On Update 8 i use Option 6 or 9 (MegaRam 2) but 6 feels smoother in the Launcher & UI.
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Test the calculated values as they are based on your actual ram.
I added that feature for device that fell between the HP group settings.
I tried to calculate balanced values but course you can tweak them to be more or less aggressive by playing with the slot 3 value as that has the biggest effect on typical free ram.
The other great addition is the auto calculated min_free_kbytes value so that you won't ever get too low on free ram while allowing for apps to be cached for speed.
Thanks for answer. I now use Option 10 Custom Settings on U9 RC5. Launcher is Die Hard.
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Problem with slow W.

Does anyone else has problems with the phone beeing slow?
Sometimes when i want to call somebody and i press contacts it can take like 30 sec before anything happens, Same thing with apps and mail.
And there is like 20MB free of RAM. To bad this Phone has a great CPU at 1,4Ghz but RAM is really low. I think that will be the phones death..
Give me a SS of ur home screen after reboot
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Danne84 said:
Does anyone else has problems with the phone beeing slow?
Sometimes when i want to call somebody and i press contacts it can take like 30 sec before anything happens, Same thing with apps and mail.
And there is like 20MB free of RAM. To bad this Phone has a great CPU at 1,4Ghz but RAM is really low. I think that will be the phones death..
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Yeah, when I first got it it was really slow but it's much better after the last update. Still a little slower than I would have thought.
Any phone will become slow if you have too many things running all at once.. If your free ram hover around 20mb, i bet that you're instaling too many Go product.. It could be due to too many widgets, facebook apps also could be the culprit for taking too much ram..
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Whats the point of having allot or storage if you cant make use of it for like apps ...
and why make a phone with so little RAM, And btw why can i only use 350MB?
The phone has 512 like my old Blade and i had like 200MB free on that. With the same apps.
I have like 4 widgets.
Allso Go SMS Pro.
Only have the usual facebook app.
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30 seconds is too slow for ctc to appear.
Scrolling from one end to the other is it slow ?
Try to Antutu Benchmark and post here.
Pls adv your firmware n version of Android
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andynroid said:
30 seconds is too slow for ctc to appear.
Scrolling from one end to the other is it slow ?
Try to Antutu Benchmark and post here.
Pls adv your firmware n version of Android
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"30 seconds is too slow for ctc to appear." ??
Screen is like 4-5min after boot.
Antutu Benchmark total score: 3644
Running 2.3.5 stock from the shop.
Ctc..contacts....
This is my setup :
Lookout security
Juice Defender
Launcher Pro
Nexus Live WallPaper
And my Antutu below
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And?
Ctc..contacts....??
Still.. Feels slow due to the lack of RAM.
have been thinking about getting an S2 instead but i want to wait for a ROM like CM and try it out.
and what about the 350MB limit on the RAM?
Most phones are now designed to use up all the RAM unless they have to let it go.
So ideally, you WANT to have only 20mb of RAM left. That way all your phone is being used, no point putting 1gb of RAM if all you're going to do is leave it empty.
I recommend the App RAM Manager Free
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.smartprojects.RAMOptimizationFree&hl=en
Also, I'd recommend you run some tests, using your Task killer, close one app at a time and check the speed of the phone. I'd bet one of these apps is a hog!
To give you an idea, the phone can be very fast. My AnTuTu score is 3817, and I have no lag at all...
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Vyker said:
Most phones are now designed to use up all the RAM unless they have to let it go.
So ideally, you WANT to have only 20mb of RAM left. That way all your phone is being used, no point putting 1gb of RAM if all you're going to do is leave it empty.
I recommend the App RAM Manager Free
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.smartprojects.RAMOptimizationFree&hl=en
Also, I'd recommend you run some tests, using your Task killer, close one app at a time and check the speed of the phone. I'd bet one of these apps is a hog!
To give you an idea, the phone can be very fast. My AnTuTu score is 3817, and I have no lag at all...
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which memory card are you using?
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lionfib said:
which memory card are you using?
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I dont use one.
2Gb Internal SD and 1GB ROM is more than enough for my apps and pictures.
First of all try like Vyker said. Close programs one by one and check free Ram after u closed 1 program. Well maybe u should try to flash latest Rom because what u saying is weird for me. With energy saver on, wi-fi off all 3rd programs off my Antutu score is 3827 and i have 0 lag. I use latest official Rom 2.3.6 I8150XXKL3. In normal use i have about 130mb free ram and after i clean ram memory i have about 140-160.
Try supercharger script
Hi all,
might be offtopic but having same probs described here wonder if adding swap support to custom kernel will help to overcome ram shortage of SGW . check
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22164837#post22164837
for further reading ....
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I still am on stock 2.3.5 but am not experiencing any lag after doing the following:
1. Use only 3 home screens down from default of 5. I tried using 2 and it's even faster.
2. Minimized the use of widgets unless really necessary.
3. Move as much apps to SD if possible using App2SD.
4. Apply several build.prop tweaks.
5. Apply V6 Supercharger script.
6. Change stock launcher to ADW Ex Launcher.
RAM on boot is around 250MB-260MB and feels buttery smooth.
Solution on my own
Danne84 said:
Does anyone else has problems with the phone beeing slow?
Sometimes when i want to call somebody and i press contacts it can take like 30 sec before anything happens, Same thing with apps and mail.
And there is like 20MB free of RAM. To bad this Phone has a great CPU at 1,4Ghz but RAM is really low. I think that will be the phones death..
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I have the same problem. For the first year of using GT-I8150 everything was fine, than it became rapidly slow - loading contacts, messages, missed-call list and when return to he homescreen it took time to load even default icons.
So i restored whole phone - it got better for a few months, but became slow again.
Tried everything - restoring, deleting apps, clearing memory... none helped.
Solution? I got iPhone
finding another rom is the best thing to do now
i have a problem too with my phone...when it was in stock rom...the fone lags in homescreen even app drawer when i scroll from left to right and back to left again...am i the only 1 who have this problem with the fone? anyone?
i think its too many running app, what rom do you use on your w btw ?
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This is what I'm getting now and IDK WHY. I have tried zram on any percentage, it doesn't help.
This is weird because I used to get like 160 or 140 free always, and now this.
On my signature is my whole system, I rebooted the phone on the morning and now 12 hours later, I have that ram. Not a lot of usage, music, whatsapp, few sms and general browsing on 2G and wifi.. :x
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.omichsoft.taskmanager
Inviato da me!
I don't want a task manager, I want to know why once my phone had a behaviour of perfect free ram at some acceptable range and now it's like this and going like on 50mb too..
It is normal because Jelly Bean caches up to 10 apps instead of 5 apps in ICS.
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It is normal because Jelly Bean caches up to 10 apps instead of 5 apps in ICS.
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so it's normal to have ~70 ~50 mb of ram free? o-o I mean, it's hard to believe due to what I have said 3 times in a row, weeks ago my average was always up to 140, sometimes reaching 200.
Reboot ur phone once in a day
And to a fact, free ram doesnt matter at all. Are you facing lags when u have 50-60 mb free ram? Free ram is wasted ram in some context
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koradiavatsal said:
Reboot ur phone once in a day
And to a fact, free ram doesnt matter at all. Are you facing lags when u have 50-60 mb free ram? Free ram is wasted ram in some context
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I reboot my phone daily, read OP.
Yeah I have read that before somewhere.. actually no I don't experience lags but I'm worried about battery life and wakelock and that kind of stuff.
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I reboot my phone daily, read OP.
Yeah I have read that before somewhere.. actually no I don't experience lags but I'm worried about battery life and wakelock and that kind of stuff.
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Wakelock and battery life related to free ram???
I dont know how. Use better battery stats for all info on wakelocks and properly evaluated battery life
Nd use gb if you want "free ram"
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koradiavatsal said:
Wakelock and battery life related to free ram???
I dont know how. Use better battery stats for all info on wakelocks and properly evaluated battery life
Nd use gb if you want "free ram"
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Unusual lack of RAM = Things that SHOULDN'T be running are running somehow, therefore, more battery usage, more battery drain.
That's what logic tells me, otherwise, if wrong, correct~
My battery life is actually.. normal.. good.. o3o!
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Unusual lack of RAM = Things that SHOULDN'T be running are running somehow, therefore, more battery usage, more battery drain.
That's what logic tells me, otherwise, if wrong, correct~
My battery life is actually.. normal.. good.. o3o!
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Your logic is right bt this can even happen due to lots of apps installed and almost all app eats little ram so low on ram
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You can try using greenify. Works fine for me.
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Phenomzye said:
Unusual lack of RAM = Things that SHOULDN'T be running are running somehow, therefore, more battery usage, more battery drain.
That's what logic tells me, otherwise, if wrong, correct~
My battery life is actually.. normal.. good.. o3o!
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That's why i suggest you this task manager...
I know there are many point of view about it(free ram is wasted ram,linux is different from Windows..blablabla..)but is a fact that after i use this TM(enabling root access too)my phone runs smoother and faster...(250 mb free ram on ICS)
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That's why i suggest you this task manager...
I know there are many point of view about it(free ram is wasted ram,linux is different from Windows..blablabla..)but is a fact that after i use this TM(enabling root access too)my phone runs smoother and faster...(250 mb free ram on ICS)
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Those kind of task manager apps are useless as most apps have background processes that can only be terminated with root access. Without root privilege to close them, they will just restart in the background and take up RAM space. Greenify will prevent that by closing the background processes and keeping them hibernate. Those apps also take up space on your phone and use up battery.
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Those kind of task manager apps are useless as most apps have background processes that can only be terminated with root access. Without root privilege to close them, they will just restart in the background and take up RAM space. Greenify will prevent that by closing the background processes and keeping them hibernate. Those apps also take up space on your phone and use up battery.
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This task manager HAVE root access options...
arcatarc said:
This task manager HAVE root access options...
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I would use greenify instead, one push to hibernate and close running apps.
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Heres mine.
Try to disable zram.
Boot cwm and clear cache and dalvk.
Ps. Got any scrips or mods running?
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Heres mine.
Try to disable zram.
Boot cwm and clear cache and dalvk.
Ps. Got any scrips or mods running?
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The OP screenshot was without zram, I have tried everything with zram. No mods or scripts running, it's a clean install though, shouldn't need another cache wipe. Right now it fluctuates between 80, 90 and 115 mb free, so I think it's normal or close to normal now. Got my questions answered too, thanks everyone.
And yeah, I have tried greenify but once, using it, I got 17mb of free ram xD and never tried it again.
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The OP screenshot was without zram, I have tried everything with zram. No mods or scripts running, it's a clean install though, shouldn't need another cache wipe. Right now it fluctuates between 80, 90 and 115 mb free, so I think it's normal or close to normal now. Got my questions answered too, thanks everyone.
And yeah, I have tried greenify but once, using it, I got 17mb of free ram xD and never tried it again.
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Install Swapper and Seeder. I'm currently on MIUI which usually takes a lot more ram than any other rom. But with those two apps in combo my phone is breathing again!
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