Make A Stylus for your Kindle Fire - Kindle Fire Accessories

Hey Guys!
Are you too lazy to spend 5 bucks on a stylus.
Just get out a pen, empty it, wrap it with aluminum foil, and make a small aluminum ball and add it to the tip. There is your free, easy to make, stylus

Might there be any chance of scratching the crap out of the display?

Re:
It takes effort to scratch the screen. The screen is made of gorilla glass and it is pretty durable

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Recommendations for screen protectors for the XDA2

Does anyone have any recommendations for screen protectors that fit an XDA2? I've tried a few of the local electronic/gadget shops with no success.
I find using the phone with the stylus a bit of a fiddle and would prefer to just tap with my finger, but that leaves greasy finger prints on the screen. Also what do people use to clean the screen?
Cheers,
Phil Spencer.
Ebay is the only place I found, go to www.ebay.co.uk and search for xda. Dont use the 12 packs, the reusable, washable are best.
abaddon100 said:
Does anyone have any recommendations for screen protectors that fit an XDA2? I've tried a few of the local electronic/gadget shops with no success.
I find using the phone with the stylus a bit of a fiddle and would prefer to just tap with my finger, but that leaves greasy finger prints on the screen. Also what do people use to clean the screen?
Cheers,
Phil Spencer.
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I have used WriteSHIELD by PocketPcTechs on booth my XDA1 and XDA2 satisfactorily
hi m8,
i have just put a screen protector on a friend xda2 and now the screen does not respond to the stylus..
any ideas what i need to do???
thanks alot
Zetex
Zetex, remove the protecter and make sure when you replace it that it doesnt go right to the very edges, a tiny gap is needed.
I got some of the clear touch protectors from Boxwave http://www.boxwave.com
Grand jobbies.
got mine from brando... they are thicker then some may like... but perfect for me since i leave my xdaII in a pocket stuffed with keys coins etc. Responds well to stylus. Very very durable... well worth every penny. http://shop.brando.com.hk/
Screen protector
I have used a sheet of overhead projector acetate as a screen protector. Just get a sheet A4 size and cut it to a few mm oversize of the length of the screen and it slides in a treat. They are easilly replacecable as the A4 sheet costs pennies. I have been using them for a while now and when they get scratched or smudged from grease from the use of the phone just pop in another one. I always carry 2 or three in my brief case.
Mesmer :lol:
I really like the screen protectors from proporta.com. I had one on my m1000 and I've just bought a new one for my xda 2s. They're great because they make the screen easier to write on, and they are washable as well so any marks or grease can just be washed off!
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mesmer said:
I have used a sheet of overhead projector acetate as a screen protector. Just get a sheet A4 size and cut it to a few mm oversize of the length of the screen and it slides in a treat. They are easilly replacecable as the A4 sheet costs pennies. I have been using them for a while now and when they get scratched or smudged from grease from the use of the phone just pop in another one. I always carry 2 or three in my brief case.
Mesmer :lol:
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what a neat idea; i tried it out and it works! i normally use nushield screen protectors; no adhesives and it's held in place by slipping the four sides under the screen borders. i took out the old one and cut off a piece with the same shape using the transparency. not bad at all...and cheap too! tons of them in the office.
thanks for the tip
rob
If you can get them, the Martin Fields Overlay Protector or the EXIM Ultra Clear are absolutely excellent, see my reviews here.

Inexpensive "TREsemmé brand" screen protector!

I didn't feel like paying for another screen protector, so I checked out what could substitute at my local hardware store. I settled on 4 mil plastic sheeting and Aersol extra hold hairspray as the adhesive. The plastic sheeting is labeled as follows:
STORM WINDOW
PROTECTIVE COVER
COLD FRAME
Hairspray brand is TRESsemmé TRES TWO extra hold (aersol spray can).
Works extremely well. 2 feet of plastic sheeting from the hardware store cost $2, the hairspray cost $2 at Walmart.
I also just skinned my laptop with it. I still have a huge amount of material left over. It is more work and would be easy to screw up, you can't touch the side where your applying the hairspray or it will gunk up and leave a visible white patch underneath. You need to lay it on your hand and spray down onto the plastic, then lay the object you are skinning down onto the plastic. If you screw up, no big loss, the hairspray cleans up with water.
NorskeDivision said:
I didn't feel like paying for another screen protector, so I checked out what could substitute at my local hardware store. I settled on 4 mil plastic sheeting and Aersol extra hold hairspray as the adhesive. The plastic sheeting is labeled as follows:
STORM WINDOW
PROTECTIVE COVER
COLD FRAME
Hairspray brand is TRESsemmé TRES TWO extra hold (aersol spray can).
Works extremely well. 2 feet of plastic sheeting from the hardware store cost $2, the hairspray cost $2 at Walmart.
I also just skinned my laptop with it. I still have a huge amount of material left over. It is more work and would be easy to screw up, you can't touch the side where your applying the hairspray or it will gunk up and leave a visible white patch underneath. You need to lay it on your hand and spray down onto the plastic, then lay the object you are skinning down onto the plastic. If you screw up, no big loss, the hairspray cleans up with water.
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WTF...Tressemme are you kidding me? dude that's gonna make ur device all icky.
Can't even imagine gunking up any of my devices and would not recommend any of the chemicals in hairsprays on digitizers or other surfaces, don't even use the stuff on my hair, haha.
Besides, I'd rather spend $2 on a proper screen protector that lasts me on average 3-6 months and save myself all the labour used to apply one from a hardware store + hairspray. I charge $60/h in labour costs, so in the long run much cheaper for me to just buy a ready-made PET protector.
4 mil you say? As in thick?
The point is I sell many products, so saving $5 many times over saves me a lot of money.
And no, it does not "gunk up your device" any more than the adhesive on any other screen protector does. You spray it on the screen protector, then apply to phone.
Anyway, this is just info for anyone else wondering about cheap screen protector material en-bulk. Was hoping maybe someone had experience or a suggestion as to a slightly more durable protector. The hairspray adhesive works very well, but the storm window covering does scratch after a few months. I'd prefer the high quality stuff they have at invisible shield, but I've yet to find a way of buying a roll or for that matter even a few square meters of it.
enigma1nz said:
4 mil you say? As in thick?
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Yup. 1 mil is .0254 mm, so 4 mil is about .1mm. Doesn't cause any problems with touch sensitivity.
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[Protector] Tempered Glass Protector (Unboxing and Installation)

The courier delivered a tempered glass type protector from China this morning and I have some spare time to install it in the afternoon. This protector is actually a sample from the manufacturer and I have rejected several of them previously due to the poor placement of cutouts. I did not even bother installing them coz the cutouts were just so so misaligned and I doubt if they are for P600 while I am having a P605 (This is the reason the manufacturer gave although I wonder if the button placement are THAT different between P600 and P605).
This one should be the third one and it is reasonably fit for my P605. It doesn't have any indication on its thinkness and by the look of it I guess it's the common 0.05mm type.
In Short:
Pros:
- The protector is WAY*100 better than the traditional clear plastic protector I had on the P605.
- It's clear (oops... ). Crystal CLEAR!
- VERY smooth to write on with the S-Pen (NO more dragging by the plastic protector) This is the MOST important point! I can live with those traditional plastic screen protectors on phones / pads with no pens but with S-Pen I need a MUCH better writing experience. This is DEFINITELY a personal preference coz I am a fountain pen lover and has always been VERY demanding on writing surfaces.
- The edges of the protector and around area around the cutouts are smooth (but not those tapering curved ones as the one I have on my Note 3).
- I guess one does not need to worry about this protector in fear that it will scratch the screen if it is smashed coz I smashed the one on my Note 2 but it had caused absolutely no harm to the screen.
Cons:
- Obviously, expensive. Way more expensive than those plastic one yet it lasts longer.
- And there aren't too many manufacturers making tempered glass protector for P605. I guess may be the Note 10.1 2014 just isn't popular enough YET. The market is flooded with tempered glass protector for IPAD and Note III but not for P600/P605.
- Not AS resistant to scratches as you may think. The one on my Note III was scratched after three days and I still did not know why (Not with keys or sharp objects in the pocket but it was scratched). Er...a mystery huh.
- Not compatible with some cases.... especially those bumpers. I use a metal bumper on my Note III and it can't be "assembled" (The slot-type) due to the added thickness of the protector. On Note 10.1 2014, I use the original book case so NO problem so far. I would love to have a metallic bumper for my P605 tho. Still yet to find one.
- You can feel the WEIGHT of it. It adds a bit weight to the already-quite-heavy tablet .
- May be a bit difficult to install but I can say it's FAR FAR easier than installing the plastic one. Just do it slowly... don't rush it... then... OK!
The Installation and my experience with it
The installation is about the same as the way we install the plastic one tho it's a lot easier. There is a trick: peel the 1st layer (marked with a label) of the non-sticky film diagonally half way down and careful align the cutouts with the Home button and the sensors. After aligning them, pull the remaining half away from the corner underneath
and SLOWLY.... REMEMBER SLOWLY and SOFTLY put little pressure on it at the center. This will stick the protector onto the screen while not too strong that you can still move the protector around with your nails by pushing it on the sides. After inspecting closely that there is no dust and the alignment is perfect, just apply little force smoothly across the surface and peel off the blue film on the surface of the protector then ..........YEAH... your screen is now very well protected!
After playing it for about two hours now, what I like most is the smoothness when writing on it. Definitely unbeatable on this. I use the Samsung S-Pen Holder Kit on it and it turns writing and drawing on P605 even more enjoyable. I enjoy sketching on it.
Reflection may be a problem when reading... em...but I like the crystal clear screen a lot more now.
My Verdict on P605's accessories:
Emm... It is one of the best accessories I have bought so far for my P605.... I recommend getting a tempered glass protector and the Samsung S-Pen holder kit to my friends.
The original book cover is a short term solution until there are more options on the market (hope there will be)
I will DIY a leather case anyway during the holiday anyway
Photos of the protector are attached. You can see the edges of it are still 2-3mm away from the rim of the tablet. Macro photos showing the cut outs too.
** Update: The protector claims to have an Oleophobic coating yet it stills attract fingerprint quite easily. A gentle swipe with a clean cloth can clean it.
Mind sharing the link to buy this screen protector ?
Thanks
Sent from my SM-P605 using xda app-developers app
Sorry.. this one is not from an online store. It's a sample for my shop.

[Review] Crystal Armor Ultra Thin 0.2mm Tempered Glass Protector & ASF Removal

The Product
Product Page
CRYSTAL ARMOR Ultra Thin Full Flat Tempered Glass Protector. Claimed to be the worlds thinnest; so thin, in fact, that they claim that a sensor hole cutout is necessary. Of course, it comes at a price. And that is a wallet gouging ¥5,000. Although on the product page they say that the shipping is included, they still said they had to charge me another ¥250. So I ended up paying ¥5,250 for a single sheet of glass...
They seem to have made the shipping free so it is "only" ¥5,000 now which makes me feel ripped off.
UPDATE: It's actually a promotion apparently for this month as their nice rep informed me.
The customer support at Crystal Armor is great. The English support team swiftly answered my inquiries, and even emailed me when I ordered a second one to double check if it was a mistake or not
First Look
It came in a huge box (for a screen protector anyway) with a ton of bubble wrap.
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You think I'm kidding?
I tentatively open the package to reveal...
Nothing but the screen protector.
It's packaged nicely and all, but I can't help but feel a bit let down to find nothing else included in a ¥5,000 product. There is only film over the adhesive side of the protector too
Its thinness is something else though. This still has the protective film on.
A quick mockup shows the fitment to be spot on
Anti Shatter Film Removal
I found the corner to be the easiest to lift.
It's just peeling from now on.
Goodbye Sony logo.
Ahhhh, real glass!
I first thought I used too much WD-40 to clean the glass, but it turns out that even nail polish remover wasn't enough. After multiple passes with optical cleaning towel and nail polish remover, the screen only looks clean. A quick wipe with a cheap microfiber towel reveals tons of lint stuck onto the glass, and the glass feels slightly sticky to the touch, especially at the edges. Running water over the glass shows spots at the corners where the residue still remains, as the water flows around the spots.
After more rubbing with nail polish remover the spots seem to have mostly disappeared, but the screen still feels slightly sticky. Maybe the residue will wear off after a week of usage, but so far I have to recommend prospective ASF removers to put a screen protector over the bare glass.
I've given up for now. I'll just install the protector right over without worrying about the residue since it's not visible anyways. I just washed the towels and letting them to dry, and I'll get the protector installed in my washroom after my shower tonight to be as safe as possible. It is an expensive single usage protector after all.
On a side note, if you do this to your dock you'll be able to use it even with a thick screen protector
The Big Mistake
Well I think I've just made the biggest f***up in my Android related life. So badly that I managed to actually crack the glass protector
But instead of mourning for the new wound in my wallet, I'll have to make the best of this broken piece of glass and make a cracked screen protector review until the replacement arrives.
First of all, the screen protector is seriously thin. Keep in mind that this is my first glass screen protector, but this is definitely much thinner than the glass protector that my friend has on his Z1. It's so thin that it still fits in the magnetic charging dock, although I don't recommend this, as the dock scuffs up the rear ASF enough already without the added thickness. The thinness combined with the rounded edges make this feel extremely smooth at the edges, and my fingers glide on and off the edges like its nothing.
Speaking of gliding, the oleophobic coating is nice and slick. I've been rubbing my fingers and palms over it and the coating isn't letting up. I'm sure I've put enough finger oils on it to equal a month's usage and all I've been doing is wiping it off with a shirt and it's still holding up very well.
The size of the screen protector is pretty much exactly the size of the display glass so you must be extremely careful while installing it. Because I ruined mine I just quickly matched 2 edges on one side and put it down. I highly urge everyone to use the masking tape hinge method and take your time to hexacheck for a perfect fitment. Yes you can peel it off and reapply but you have an extremely high chance of cracking your glass. The protector is flexible to a degree but definitely not enough for you to peel it off the screen unless you are some master at peeling off protectors with minimal angle.
My heart bled as I folded this screen protector in half for the sake of science.
As you can see, the protector does not shatter, so it does a perfectly fine job as a replacement for your factory anti shatter film.
In an extreme case of folding in the edge like a page in a book, a very small piece of glass detached itself from the glass but proved to be harmless like the glass particles that also fell out of the cracks.
And of course I had to forget the scratch test. The protector, while having cracks all over, laughed at the futility of the multiple knives from around the house but was ultimately defeated by 150 grit sandpaper which left scratches too small for me to bother to attempt to capture with a camera. Back to the garbage can it goes.
Hope you all benefited from my stupidity and failure. I will now cry myself to sleep. This ends my preliminary review of the Crystal Armor Ultra Thin Full Flat Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (WORD’S THINNEST!) with Chemically Strengthened Tempered Glass and Oleophobic Super Slick Surface and I still can’t post external links.
The ASF Free Experience
Feels good to be touching actual glass :angel:
But because there is no coating on the glass, fingerprints and smudges build up very very quickly, and I had to clean it frequently. Because there's no coating on it there's a bit of friction against your fingertips. I'm sure that some Rain-X or some sort of glass sealant will make the screen a lot more smooth (friction wise, there's no texture on the glass obviously).
Now don't expect the display to magically improve without the ASF. It doesn't become more vibrant, bright, or have any better viewing angles.
But don't think that removing the ASF is pretty much pointless and is a stupid move. The ASF is a stupid move. Unless you slap a screen protector over the ASF as soon as you get the phone, you are going to get scratches because the ASF is so soft. So I got fed up with the marks and decided to just remove it. Now you have glass that is actually hard. Some people are just anti-protector and that's perfectly fine. The Dragontrail glass is tough and it's not gonna get scratched that easily. I think running the bare glass with some sort of sealant, oleophobic coating , or a mix you'll have a nice feeling anti-fingerprint glass. Just reapply when the coating wears off.
Round 2
They included a microfiber cloth this time (I wonder if they read my review )
The tab for peeling off the protective film is also a lot easier to peel off this time.
I couldn't use the hinge method to install this protector because the duct tape just won't stick. Not sure if it's a good thing because the coating is strong or if it's a bad thing because I misaligned thanks to not having a hinge.
Also trapped a spec of fiber, which ironically is probably from the microfiber cloth they provided... Luckily it's so small that I can only find it with my face about 8cm from the screen.
Having this protector on is also definitely visible, due to the rounded corners
Also leaks a bit of light at the side like the edge of a lit acrylic panel (reference)
The coating is indeed very smooth in case I haven't mentioned it enough. My fingers glide on it with pretty much no friction, and because the screen is now raised a bit I don't feel the ridge at the end of the screen anymore. And because it's so smooth you don't have to use much force on the screen so it leaves even less marks. All the pictures I've taken are after 1 day of use and no cleaning at all. And I went snowboarding with it and it didn't crack so don't think its weak just because I goofed the first time.
My camera lens is 14-24mm which is useless for macro so here's a video for you guys
You can find it on their site
Short Term Experience
In the first week, it was oleophobic heaven. Super slick, almost completely fingerprint-proof. The few smudges come off extremely easily.
Towards the end of week 2 it has become less oleophobic. It's not extremely slick like new but it is still very good. Smudges and prints come off just from taking the phone out of the pocket.
End of week 3 had me a bit worried. Has the oleophobic coating worn off already? Fingerprints go on pretty easily and it is not very slick. Then I realized that in this entire time I have not once cleaned the screen with any cleaning solution, only wiping it down with a microfiber cloth.
So I did that and the slickness is back. It feels more like week 2... At least for a few days.
So now I clean the screen regularly and when the screen is clean it's much easier to wipe off fingerprints.
TO BE CONTINUED FOR LONG TERM RESULTS
Well thanks to xda rules I can't post any pictures....
And I have to wait 5 minutes between posts...
This is too much for me to take :crying:
Need the pictures. Or just upload it somewhere else, then put the link here. Thanks so much anyway.
Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk
omegahanggara said:
Need the pictures. Or just upload it somewhere else, then put the link here. Thanks so much anyway.
Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk
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xda won't allow external links even to pictures until I get 10 posts, and I can only post once every 5 minutes.
Winrahr said:
xda won't allow external links even to pictures until I get 10 posts, and I can only post once every 5 minutes.
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ok, so lets keep chatting here untill you get 10 posts!
how was the placing of the screen protector? the nillkin has almost 2 millimiters gaps from the sides so it's quite easy to fit, but it doesn't cover the whole screen though... but still almost all of it, it looks good.
shteren said:
ok, so lets keep chatting here untill you get 10 posts!
how was the placing of the screen protector? the nillkin has almost 2 millimiters gaps from the sides so it's quite easy to fit, but it doesn't cover the whole screen though... but still almost all of it, it looks good.
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And we shall!
It seems to cover exactly the entire screen but I'll check more precisely when I put it on.
Well I think I've just made the biggest f***up in my Android related life. So badly that I managed to actually crack the glass protector
But instead of mourning for the new wound in my wallet, I'll have to make the best of this broken piece of glass and make a cracked screen protector review until the replacement arrives.
First of all, the screen protector is seriously thin. Keep in mind that this is my first glass screen protector, but this is definitely much thinner than the glass protector that my friend has on his Z1. It's so thin that it still fits in the magnetic charging dock, although I don't recommend this, as the dock scuffs up the rear ASF enough already without the added thickness. The thinness combined with the rounded edges make this feel extremely smooth at the edges, and my fingers glide on and off the edges like its nothing.
(pic)
Speaking of gliding, the oleophobic coating is nice and slick. I've been rubbing my fingers and palms over it and the coating isn't letting up. I'm sure I've put enough finger oils on it to equal a month's usage and all I've been doing is wiping it off with a shirt and it's still holding up very well.
The size of the screen protector is pretty much exactly the size of the display glass so you must be extremely careful while installing it. Because I ruined mine I just quickly matched 2 edges on one side and put it down. I highly urge everyone to use the masking tape hinge method and take your time to hexacheck for a perfect fitment. Yes you can peel it off and reapply but you have an extremely high chance of cracking your glass. The protector is flexible to a degree but definitely not enough for you to peel it off the screen unless you are some master at peeling off protectors with minimal angle.
My heart bled as I folded this screen protector in half for the sake of science.
(pic)
As you can see (well you can't because I only have 9 posts), the protector does not shatter, so it does a perfectly fine job as a replacement for your factory anti shatter film.
In an extreme case of folding in the edge like a page in a book, a very small piece of glass detached itself from the glass but proved to be harmless like the glass particles that also fell out of the cracks.
(pic)
And of course I had to forget the scratch test. The protector, while having cracks all over, laughed at the futility of the multiple knives from around the house but was ultimately defeated by 150 grit sandpaper which left scratches too small for me to bother to attempt to capture with a camera. Back to the garbage can it goes.
Hope you all benefited from my stupidity and failure. I will now cry myself to sleep. This ends my preliminary review of the Crystal Armor Ultra Thin Full Flat Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (WORD’S THINNEST!) with Chemically Strengthened Tempered Glass and Oleophobic Super Slick Surface and I still can’t post external links.
Winrahr said:
Well I think I've just made the biggest f***up in my Android related life. So badly that I managed to actually crack the glass protector
But instead of mourning for the new wound in my wallet, I'll have to make the best of this broken piece of glass and make a cracked screen protector review until the replacement arrives.
First of all, the screen protector is seriously thin. Keep in mind that this is my first glass screen protector, but this is definitely much thinner than the glass protector that my friend has on his Z1. It's so thin that it still fits in the magnetic charging dock, although I don't recommend this, as the dock scuffs up the rear ASF enough already without the added thickness. The thinness combined with the rounded edges make this feel extremely smooth at the edges, and my fingers glide on and off the edges like its nothing.
(pic)
Speaking of gliding, the oleophobic coating is nice and slick. I've been rubbing my fingers and palms over it and the coating isn't letting up. I'm sure I've put enough finger oils on it to equal a month's usage and all I've been doing is wiping it off with a shirt and it's still holding up very well.
The size of the screen protector is pretty much exactly the size of the display glass so you must be extremely careful while installing it. Because I ruined mine I just quickly matched 2 edges on one side and put it down. I highly urge everyone to use the masking tape hinge method and take your time to hexacheck for a perfect fitment. Yes you can peel it off and reapply but you have an extremely high chance of cracking your glass. The protector is flexible to a degree but definitely not enough for you to peel it off the screen unless you are some master at peeling off protectors with minimal angle.
My heart bled as I folded this screen protector in half for the sake of science.
(pic)
As you can see (well you can't because I only have 9 posts), the protector does not shatter, so it does a perfectly fine job as a replacement for your factory anti shatter film.
In an extreme case of folding in the edge like a page in a book, a very small piece of glass detached itself from the glass but proved to be harmless like the glass particles that also fell out of the cracks.
(pic)
And of course I had to forget the scratch test. The protector, while having cracks all over, laughed at the futility of the multiple knives from around the house but was ultimately defeated by 150 grit sandpaper which left scratches too small for me to bother to attempt to capture with a camera. Back to the garbage can it goes.
Hope you all benefited from my stupidity and failure. I will now cry myself to sleep. This ends my preliminary review of the Crystal Armor Ultra Thin Full Flat Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (WORD’S THINNEST!) with Chemically Strengthened Tempered Glass and Oleophobic Super Slick Surface and I still can’t post external links.
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It's too bad that you cracked you screen protector, I cheer for you haha.
Well at least if the ultra thin is working like you said, I don't have to fear anything with the 0.33mm one. Thanks! By the way, take time to post one more time and you're good to go with the pictures, show us your baby!
Will be waiting for teh pictures!
Really wanting to buy this, front and back, to replace my <1week old nillkin tempered.
curious
I hope you can post the pics.... so add this reply to the count.:victory:
Boop. 10th post.
OP will now be updated with pictures
I think the greatest weakness of the 0.2mm will be its... weakness. The thinness probably makes it more prone to cracking than the thicker protectors, but it is also probably more flexible, so who knows. It's definitely not super fragile though, I was just being stupid.
Also want to add that the customer support at Crystal Armor is great. The English support team swiftly answered my inquiries, and even emailed me when I ordered a second one to double check if it was a mistake or not :good:
So while I wait for the second protector to come in, I'll be using the phone without an ASF and I'll do a writeup on that in a few days as well.
I still have the cracked protector so if anyone wants me to do some testing with it let me know
Winrahr said:
The Product
CRYSTAL ARMOR Ultra Thin Full Flat Tempered Glass Protector. Claimed to be the worlds thinnest; so thin, in fact, that they claim that a sensor hole cutout is necessary. Of course, it comes at a price. And that is a wallet gouging ¥5,000. Although on the product page they say that the shipping is included, they still said they had to charge me another ¥250. So I ended up paying ¥5,250 for a single sheet of glass...
They seem to have made the shipping free so it is "only" ¥5,000 now which makes me feel ripped off.
UPDATE: It's actually a promotion apparently for this month as their nice rep informed me.
The customer support at Crystal Armor is great. The English support team swiftly answered my inquiries, and even emailed me when I ordered a second one to double check if it was a mistake or not
First Look
It came in a huge box (for a screen protector anyway) with a ton of bubble wrap.
You think I'm kidding?
I tentatively open the package to reveal...
Nothing but the screen protector.
It's packaged nicely and all, but I can't help but feel a bit let down to find nothing else included in a ¥5,000 product. There is only film over the adhesive side of the protector too
Its thinness is something else though. This still has the protective film on.
A quick mockup shows the fitment to be spot on
Anti Shatter Film Removal
I found the corner to be the easiest to lift.
It's just peeling from now on.
Goodbye Sony logo.
Ahhhh, real glass!
I first thought I used too much WD-40 to clean the glass, but it turns out that even nail polish remover wasn't enough. After multiple passes with optical cleaning towel and nail polish remover, the screen only looks clean. A quick wipe with a cheap microfiber towel reveals tons of lint stuck onto the glass, and the glass feels slightly sticky to the touch, especially at the edges. Running water over the glass shows spots at the corners where the residue still remains, as the water flows around the spots.
After more rubbing with nail polish remover the spots seem to have mostly disappeared, but the screen still feels slightly sticky. Maybe the residue will wear off after a week of usage, but so far I have to recommend prospective ASF removers to put a screen protector over the bare glass.
I've given up for now. I'll just install the protector right over without worrying about the residue since it's not visible anyways. I just washed the towels and letting them to dry, and I'll get the protector installed in my washroom after my shower tonight to be as safe as possible. It is an expensive single usage protector after all.
On a side note, if you do this to your dock you'll be able to use it even with a thick screen protector
The Big Mistake
Well I think I've just made the biggest f***up in my Android related life. So badly that I managed to actually crack the glass protector
But instead of mourning for the new wound in my wallet, I'll have to make the best of this broken piece of glass and make a cracked screen protector review until the replacement arrives.
First of all, the screen protector is seriously thin. Keep in mind that this is my first glass screen protector, but this is definitely much thinner than the glass protector that my friend has on his Z1. It's so thin that it still fits in the magnetic charging dock, although I don't recommend this, as the dock scuffs up the rear ASF enough already without the added thickness. The thinness combined with the rounded edges make this feel extremely smooth at the edges, and my fingers glide on and off the edges like its nothing.
Speaking of gliding, the oleophobic coating is nice and slick. I've been rubbing my fingers and palms over it and the coating isn't letting up. I'm sure I've put enough finger oils on it to equal a month's usage and all I've been doing is wiping it off with a shirt and it's still holding up very well.
The size of the screen protector is pretty much exactly the size of the display glass so you must be extremely careful while installing it. Because I ruined mine I just quickly matched 2 edges on one side and put it down. I highly urge everyone to use the masking tape hinge method and take your time to hexacheck for a perfect fitment. Yes you can peel it off and reapply but you have an extremely high chance of cracking your glass. The protector is flexible to a degree but definitely not enough for you to peel it off the screen unless you are some master at peeling off protectors with minimal angle.
My heart bled as I folded this screen protector in half for the sake of science.
As you can see, the protector does not shatter, so it does a perfectly fine job as a replacement for your factory anti shatter film.
In an extreme case of folding in the edge like a page in a book, a very small piece of glass detached itself from the glass but proved to be harmless like the glass particles that also fell out of the cracks.
And of course I had to forget the scratch test. The protector, while having cracks all over, laughed at the futility of the multiple knives from around the house but was ultimately defeated by 150 grit sandpaper which left scratches too small for me to bother to attempt to capture with a camera. Back to the garbage can it goes.
Hope you all benefited from my stupidity and failure. I will now cry myself to sleep. This ends my preliminary review of the Crystal Armor Ultra Thin Full Flat Luxury Edge 0.2mm Screen Protector (WORD’S THINNEST!) with Chemically Strengthened Tempered Glass and Oleophobic Super Slick Surface and I still can’t post external links.
TO BE CONTINUED
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sorry to see that buddy.... try nillkin next time it's smaller than the screen so it's very easy to fit, i did it without hinges, and it's also super slick, i sometimes have a hard time texting cos my fingers are sliding on the glass...
I don't see how a smaller screen protector makes it easier to fit, having to match the spacing on each side will definitely test the very limits of my patience, and I know I'll mess up and get reminded of my mistake every single time I use the phone.
Also can you please unquote the OP? That's a huge quote.
I have just received my front and back protector from Crystal Armour. For the front I got the 0,2mm version and for the back 0,33mm.
Later I will show you some photos.
I uploaded a comparison between Glass M and Crystal Armour, both 0,2mm thin, you can see there the difference in size of the protector.
I like that the CA haven't got a proximity sensor cut out, it is working without any issues.
And for the back protector I have to say, no flash cut out and no flash-light bleeding in photos.
masterv1 said:
I have just received my front and back protector from Crystal Armour. For the front I got the 0,2mm version and for the back 0,33mm.
Later I will show you some photos.
I uploaded a comparison between Glass M and Crystal Armour, both 0,2mm thin, you can see there the difference in size of the protector.
I like that the CA haven't got a proximity sensor cut out, it is working without any issues.
And for the back protector I have to say, no flash cut out and no flash-light bleeding in photos.
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Nice info. Any pictures of the back glass? I was contemplating getting it but I'm not sure if I even need glass on the back side.
Winrahr said:
Nice info. Any pictures of the back glass? I was contemplating getting it but I'm not sure if I even need glass on the back side.
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I like the feel of the back with the glass, because of rounded edges. Also less fingerprints and it's easy to remove them.
Before the glass I had a foil, I disliked it, because of scratches and fingerprints, it looked very cheap.
masterv1 said:
I like the feel of the back with the glass, because of rounded edges. Also less fingerprints and it's easy to remove them.
Before the glass I had a foil, I disliked it, because of scratches and fingerprints, it looked very cheap.
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Hmmm.. My main concern for the back is the fingerprints so maybe a good oleophobic coating on the glass after removing the ASF would be good... Or I could just get a cheap rear glass...
Speaking of the ASF, I've been using my bare screen for a while so I'll talk a little about it.
Feels good to be touching actual glass :angel:
But because there is no coating on the glass, fingerprints and smudges build up very very quickly, and I had to clean it frequently. Because there's no coating on it there's a bit of friction against your fingertips. I'm sure that some Rain-X or some sort of glass sealant will make the screen a lot more smooth (friction wise, there's no texture on the glass obviously).
Now don't expect the display to magically improve without the ASF. It doesn't become more vibrant, bright, or have any better viewing angles.
But don't think that removing the ASF is pretty much pointless and is a stupid move. The ASF is a stupid move. Unless you slap a screen protector over the ASF as soon as you get the phone, you are going to get scratches because the ASF is so soft. So I got fed up with the marks and decided to just remove it. Now you have glass that is actually hard. Some people are just anti-protector and that's perfectly fine. The Dragontrail glass is tough and it's not gonna get scratched that easily. I think running the bare glass with some sort of sealant, oleophobic coating , or a mix you'll have a nice feeling anti-fingerprint glass. Just reapply when the coating wears off.
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sorry to see that buddy.... try nillkin next time it's smaller than the screen so it's very easy to fit, i did it without hinges, and it's also super slick, i sometimes have a hard time texting cos my fingers are sliding on the glass...
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Please quote wisely !!!
I'm about to order one of these too since it's the only one that doesn't have those ugly cutouts.
Did you order them from this page: apeiros.stores.jp?
I tried ordering from Japanese Amazon but they wouldn't ship them outside of Japan unfortunately.
I'm thinking of getting the front & back set since their camera opening also looks pretty snug on the back. Slightly worried about the flash though.
Any new pictures?
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I'm about to order one of these too since it's the only one that doesn't have those ugly cutouts.
Did you order them from this page: apeiros.stores.jp?
I tried ordering from Japanese Amazon but they wouldn't ship them outside of Japan unfortunately.
I'm thinking of getting the front & back set since their camera opening also looks pretty snug on the back. Slightly worried about the flash though.
Any new pictures?
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Yep you need to order from their page here which is specifically for out of Japan orders.
Then just put in your info like normal and don't worry about the state. You can repeat all the info in the comments field just in case.
I'm actually picking the new one up today and I'll have new pictures up soon. I didn't buy the back though.
There is actually no 0.2mm version set so you'll have to purchase the back glass separately here.

How To Guide How to keep your case on the front of the phone

Alright, after months of trying to nail this problem down I finally have a good solution!
I've tried a few different cases on my fold3 and none of them really held well on the top screen when folded and in my pocket. It would start sliding off. So I finally have a solution. Get yourself some good double sided tape (I suggest some type of 3m tape This for example) and measure you a piece of tape that is length of the case that touches the phone that isn't on the screen. Then take a sharp knife and cut a very thin strip of tape. Put that strip on your case and then put the case on the phone. Press hard and hold it there for a bit and then BAM it's not going anywhere again. If it's done right it will not be noticable (see pics I've attached) unless you look closely it's really clean and nice looking to me.
In the pictures you can see the black strip of tape that came with the case that wasn't super useful but what useful was my piece of tape.
I have been lucky in that my cases have not had this issue, but I agree, if you need too, there is no shame in using tape to keep this thing protected.
Just use good quality stuff.
This is the stuff I have and I LOVE IT... https://smile.amazon.com/25Meter-Double-Adhesive-Display-Housing/dp/B071D5CKCX
Good solution, just easy.
Unfortunetly fold series and other folded devices need specially cover.
I have fold 2 1,5 year and few covers:
Ringke slim. Good cover but even pieces of double tape after take off i saw particles of dust and sand.
Next i bought Spigen armor pro. Great protection but a lot of bulky and even mount with force for good fit after few weeks and take off i saw few white dots on the frame from probably few particles sand.
It was little frustrating because I always to take care my devices and carry without any other stuff in my pocket.
4 days ago i told "stop" covers with use tape for hold on the device.
Without case fold is really beautifull and touch metal in every time is really pleasant .
I read topics on reddit about "caseless fold devices" and a lot of people have enjoy use folds without case.
After that I use my device only with original leather back cover, without front cover.
Admittedly 2 days ago drop my fold from pocket on the floor. It drop edge front frame but after that is only scratch and rest device survive well
I have béen using a dab of clear silicone sealant. Holds well, and comes off by rubbing it with a cloth.
After a few months of searching, I just gave up and use whichever is the slimmest case without an adhesive. It made more than a few scratches on the side of my screen and I just decided not to give a crap about it, it doesn't go over the main screen anyway.

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