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Hi all,
Finally down in Australia a few of the better Android phones have been released on decent phone plans, so I'm deciding out of the HTC Desire or Samsung Galaxy S for my next phone (both free on $49 monthly plans over 24 months).
I know the Galaxy S is more powerful and slightly larger, but I'm a big fan of Sense in my current phone (HTC Hero) to the point where I only use HTC's widgets on the homescreens since they look great and work so well.
Also HTC's got a better track record the Sammy for updates and support, as well as obviously a large community for roms.
Main issue is, in the few stores (all Telstra down here) that they have demo Desires, they all seemed to be quite...stuttery on the homescreens. When scrolling left or right, the screens and widgets didn't seem to move smoothly as if it was struggling to process it (which I would have thought the Snapdragon would have no probs with).
In contrast, the demo Galaxy S glided between homescreens and menus perfectly, even with live wallpapers on.
Is this simply an issue with the demo ones they have out and loaded up with Telstra's apps, or are the Desires not as fluid in use on the homescreens?
I spend most of the time on my Hero working from the widgets on the homescreens, so I really like it to be speedy but most of all smooth. Might seen like a bit of a superficial issue, but was very surprising when I tried the Desire out to find it kind of jittery.
Thanks in advance!
Never had a stuttery home screen here. Been using it for 2 months and flashed a few different Roms too. Maybe the device needed a reboot?
Hmmm...i actually had the exact opposite experience regarding these two phones, SGS was stuttery with live wallpapers when i tried it, desire on the oher hand is smooth
Plus the lack of a flash for the camera is mind boggling in a high end phone
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my desire gets a quadrant score almost double the galaxy s lol it can keep its fancy gpu id rather have a snapdragon over that crappy apple a4 wanabe chip neday
My desire is very fluent when scrolling on the homescreen using my finger. Very beautiful. However using the optical trackball, you can scroll "further", multiple screens at once. Doing that results in terrible stutter. Yuck.
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"Fluidity" is very subjective. Since I play PC games I am used to FPS > 120.
You could wait for the official OTA update release of Froyo 2.2 or root and flash a custom Froyo ROM with Sense - you will definately notice a speed improvement and scrolling will be a lot smoother.
I've never had any real trouble with stutter on my Desire, as someone above said when you swipe use your finger not the trackpad. If you want to move around the homescreens quickly you're better off using the pinched out view of all the windows. Its common knowledge really that if you load every screen with widgets and a live wallpaper your device wont be that fast, just be smart about how many widgets you run. Also the Galaxy S has great hardware but its not a very nice phone.
Thanks for the replies!
Good to know custom roms should keep it happy and fast. I've actually kept my HTC Hero on 1.5 with overclock due to the far less smooth movement and scrolling on the Eclair and Froyo roms (other than vanilla).
I'll probably go with the Desire after trying out vanilla android on my Hero for a few days that made me miss Sense.
I had another look at the Galaxy S which was extremely smooth and definitely a powerhouse (and the amazing screen), but I'm not a fan of Samsung's decision to try and make it look like an iPhone both in hardware and software. The cartoony primary colours throughout the interface were pretty garish too, kind of like they seriously need a decent graphic designer on the team. =S
Only other option is whether to wait for the next wave of Android phones at the end of the year for the launch of 3.0 Gingerbread...
After having the Desire and using the Galaxy S a bit... I can definately say the UI and homescreens on the Desire are MUCH smoother then on the Galaxy S. The Galaxy S does have a much better GPU though... and slightly better processor... yet is slower and more sluggish... doesn't make much sense.
After having the Desire and using the Galaxy S a bit... I can definately say the UI and homescreens on the Desire are MUCH smoother then on the Galaxy S. The Galaxy S does have a much better GPU though... and slightly better processor... yet is slower and more sluggish... doesn't make much sense.
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Well no,Hummingbird's CPU is not better than Snapdragon's Scorpion core,in fact it's a little worse.And the difference between the GPUs,the Adreno 200 and the PowerVR 540,is not that big because of hardware,but more of the bad driver used by HTC.The PowerVR will still be better with the new driver,but the gap won't be that big.
And the Desire is not so smooth at the beginning,but use it for some time,give the system time to settle.Mine got a lot smoother after a week or so.So go for the Desire.It will also get 720p video with the next update and then will have nothing to be jealous about!
The HTC Desire has the most fluid homescreens of any android app i have tested.
Currently i'm running an Nexus One with FroYo (Stock update). And even on froyo the homescreen on the nexus one is visibly more laggy and less fluid than HTC Sense homescreens on HTC Desire. Thats why i had to switch to launcher pro beta, because it couldn't stand how much worse the homescreen on the nexus one performs.
So i can assure you that the problems you have seen must be because of demo devices being played around with all the time, and getting cluttered up after some time.
You can find an in-depth review of HTC Sense on my blog if you are interested in more details:
http://smartphoneblogging.com/2010/07/review-new-htc-sense-features-on-htc-desire/
AXIS of Reality said:
Hi all,
Finally down in Australia a few of the better Android phones have been released on decent phone plans, so I'm deciding out of the HTC Desire or Samsung Galaxy S for my next phone (both free on $49 monthly plans over 24 months).
I know the Galaxy S is more powerful and slightly larger, but I'm a big fan of Sense in my current phone (HTC Hero) to the point where I only use HTC's widgets on the homescreens since they look great and work so well.
Also HTC's got a better track record the Sammy for updates and support, as well as obviously a large community for roms.
Main issue is, in the few stores (all Telstra down here) that they have demo Desires, they all seemed to be quite...stuttery on the homescreens. When scrolling left or right, the screens and widgets didn't seem to move smoothly as if it was struggling to process it (which I would have thought the Snapdragon would have no probs with).
In contrast, the demo Galaxy S glided between homescreens and menus perfectly, even with live wallpapers on.
Is this simply an issue with the demo ones they have out and loaded up with Telstra's apps, or are the Desires not as fluid in use on the homescreens?
I spend most of the time on my Hero working from the widgets on the homescreens, so I really like it to be speedy but most of all smooth. Might seen like a bit of a superficial issue, but was very surprising when I tried the Desire out to find it kind of jittery.
Thanks in advance!
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The Telstra demo phones are loaded with widgets that are all going to be running when coming out of sleep and need to update. Give it a few moments to fin
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Appsh its updates and it will be fine. I only use 3 of the 7 screens and its very fast with no jittering
The only lag I ever notice is if an application is installing or if widgets are updating. Other than that it's very smooth.
Hi,
There was a lot of talk that HTC Desire suffers from overheating and random rebooting problems. Even worse, when they get their phone "repaired" after warranty service it still suffers from same problems, people needed to resend theirs Desire few times until its fixed. Well im planning to buy Desire but i wouldnt want those problems, in fact i pay quite a big price. One guy in this forum said that only two first motherboard revisions had that problem, but newer revisions no longer has this problem, altough i know a person who bought HTC Desire in late December, 2010, and well she said that her Desire sometimes gets hot somewhere in the bottom and reboots, but that doesnt happen often so thats not a problem for her. So seriously, what is the problem? If i will buy HTC Desire now is there a chance that i will have same problems? Or i should skip that phone and go straight to Desire HD or Desire S?
Thanks for answers
I'd go for desire s. Love my desire, but lack of space is really starting to annoy me. Had my mobo replaced few months ago, no reboots yet. Desire s is not MUCH better phone, but it looks like all the bad points with original desire have been rectified.
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tinky1 said:
I'd go for desire s. Love my desire, but lack of space is really starting to annoy me. Had my mobo replaced few months ago, no reboots yet. Desire s is not MUCH better phone, but it looks like all the bad points with original desire have been rectified.
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Well i would think the same, but we are still not sure about Desire S. How many problems will it have? Perhaps it will also have showstoppers? In fact i believe that Desire S in no way would have as rich selection of Roms as the original Desire or even Desire HD. Just because i dont think its gonna be popular enough, so no people will use that phone - no contribution they could do. Other than that i really like that phone from what ive seen, its even better than Desire, but its price is a bit too big imo for now, perhaps it will become cheaper after it will be released...
I don't know about the overheating problems. I got my Desire July last year and had no issues with it at all. I don't know about you but I would prob get Desire S, purely because it is newer. I doubt their would be any issues at all but if your still not 100% sure what to do, just wait a couple of months and see if there are any complaints about the Desire S. It probably wouldn't be as popular as the original Desire, but I reckon there will be a fair few devs out there that would do the work.
If you want to by pass all these issues with the Desire I recommend getting the HTC Evo 4G. It never over-heats nor has random reboots. Just for a little more cash it is well worth price.
You know what's crap about 4G? We don't have it in the UK.
Well im in Europe and it doesnt support cdma phones so Evo is no go for me. Today our local shop announced that Desire S will be available at early april with a price of 448 euros. The price isnt that bad, and in fact that after the phone gets in the shop and if you wait for a few weeks the price always drops by 30 euros, so it will be even better. In fact that original Desire has price of 405 euro, so i dont think i should get old one and probably will head straight to Desire S, but ill wait to ensure Desire s has no problems for about a month.
Best phone of the moment is lg optimus dual...believe me..better hardware, good price
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Best phone of the moment is lg optimus dual...believe me..better hardware, good price
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Im not going to go deep into dual core discussion, but you dont know what are you talking about. Current android versions doesnt even support dual cores, even when it will support it dual core cpu will gain zero performance boost in most operations, just because dual core 1ghz doesnt mean 2ghz. And seeing latest nvidia news makes me laugh, the quad core mobile cpus is just an absurd. Even on pc theres actually no programs or even video games which uses more than two cores (except for compiling and video decoding which most of you dont use), so why would we need quad core cpu on phone? The atrix users already have random rebooting issues, while snapdragon's second gen cpu doesnt have any problems at all. And from the hands on it actually feels that atrix, optimus 2x or even galaxy s2 have slight lag when switching through homescreens, but HTC phones are 100% smooth. So judging about phone's performance by looking at the specs is just silly.
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Im not going to go deep into dual core discussion, but you dont know what are you talking about. Current android versions doesnt even support dual cores, even when it will support it dual core cpu will gain zero performance boost in most operations, just because dual core 1ghz doesnt mean 2ghz. And seeing latest nvidia news makes me laugh, the quad core mobile cpus is just an absurd. Even on pc theres actually no programs or even video games which uses more than two cores (except for compiling and video decoding which most of you dont use), so why would we need quad core cpu on phone? The atrix users already have random rebooting issues, while snapdragon's second gen cpu doesnt have any problems at all. And from the hands on it actually feels that atrix, optimus 2x or even galaxy s2 have slight lag when switching through homescreens, but HTC phones are 100% smooth. So judging about phone's performance by looking at the specs is just silly.
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Actually i know that current android dont support multi core and i also know that 1gh dual core are not 2ghz..thanks anyway
..But android 2.4 will support multi core procesors..so if u want a phone thinking for a long period, then in my opinion that is a good choice..
"so why would we need quad core cpu on phone?" if u really think this, buy a nokia 6600
u must think in future purpose, this just my opinion...if u like buy a phone every year and have money for that, then do it..i had 3 phones in the last 8 years..every time i choice a phone to have for a long time..
sorry for my english
Android 2.4 is gingerbread for every other device apart from the nexus one and nexus s and a couple more phones. 2.4 does not support gingerbread either.
Nece228 said:
[...] so why would we need quad core cpu on phone?
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If all ppl thought like you we would still go on horseback and there won't be any cars, planes and so on
In technical terms it is NEVER relevant if we really "NEED" it, because the important thing to evolve is to think "is it possible to do"!
Definitely quad core cpus is innovation, but its just an absurd because currently even pcs dont really use more than two cores for average user. If quad cores doesnt have anything useful for pcs how could they be useful to smartphone? Sorry but blindly following whats new is just stupid. Everything has boundaries. Why nobody makes pcs with 12 cores or even more now? Because it could be totally useless so pcs now dont get anything new because its already full featured and theres nothing you can add. The same story is with smart phones, why would you need it? Are you planning to compile applications with your phone? As some people say: Talk loud, repeat that few times and people will believe it. Im not going to be victim of adverts. Everyone chooses what they like, i choose HTC just because its reliable, smooth software, not like crappy LG or Samsung which has good hardware but poor software. In fact in day to day operations dual core phones like galaxy s2 or optimus 2x felt even laggier than HTC devices. Just because their software is crap.
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Definitely quad core cpus is innovation, but its just an absurd because currently even pcs dont really use more than two cores for average user. If quad cores doesnt have anything useful for pcs how could they be useful to smartphone? Sorry but blindly following whats new is just stupid. Everything has boundaries. Why nobody makes pcs with 12 cores or even more now? Because it could be totally useless so pcs now dont get anything new because its already full featured and theres nothing you can add. The same story is with smart phones, why would you need it? Are you planning to compile applications with your phone? As some people say: Talk loud, repeat that few times and people will believe it. Im not going to be victim of adverts. Everyone chooses what they like, i choose HTC just because its reliable, smooth software, not like crappy LG or Samsung which has good hardware but poor software. In fact in day to day operations dual core phones like galaxy s2 or optimus 2x felt even laggier than HTC devices. Just because their software is crap.
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between Apple and HTC, I'd say HTC is laggier & I have both.
I have near zero faith in LG & Samsung in software fixes. I'd rather go for Nokia for reliable hardware
HTC Desire is laggy as hell for me when I was using unrooted froyo so best not to judge a phone by it's cover. (Laggy as in really sluggish performance in terms of web browsing/certain gaming lag not to mention hot as -)
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between Apple and HTC, I'd say HTC is laggier & I have both.
I have near zero faith in LG & Samsung in software fixes. I'd rather go for Nokia for reliable hardware
HTC Desire is laggy as hell for me when I was using unrooted froyo so best not to judge a phone by it's cover. (Laggy as in really sluggish performance in terms of web browsing/certain gaming lag not to mention hot as -)
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You should have seriously checked your apps. All of the reviewers say that HTC Desire is super smooth (at least compared to other android handsets). While definitely its not as smooth as iphone, it gives me user power. Theres only one device which runs ios so ios is optimized for that iphone, while in comparison there are hundreds of android devices and optimizing android for every device is unpractical, so thats why android devices dont work as smooth as iphone. The reason im not choosing Iphone is the limitations and restrictions it has. Im a geek, and i want geekish phone.
Btw are you still in 2003? Forget Nokia's hardware, now its the same as others, i own few Nokias and their build quality isnt better than Samsung. New nokias are unstable and weak like all other manufacturers and thats natural because the more complex phone is the more fragile it is.
Possible Fix for Overheating HTC Desire
Hi!
I have a HTC Desire with the AMOLED-Screen, which is said to be way better than the SLCD. I did a lot of research using Google and various forums, but did not find a real fix for my overheating phone: everytime i did more than just listen to music, my phone rebooted over and over again. It did get hot in the commonly described areas (around the microSDHC and SIM-Card and the little black square), and i had to rip off the battery to make it stop. I was really annoyed since i read that i would get a replacement without the AMOLED-Screen, that is why i decided to do some testing on my own. I found out, that i had less trouble with higher workload when i enhanced cooling by putting it in the fridge for example. (Other things like changing the microSDHC did not solve the problem for me.) When it comes to computers overheating, you clean them and have a look at the thermal grease between the chips and the coolers - and that is what i decided to do to my phone. On the inside of the battery cover, there is some metal-like shield in the lower area. I guess it is there for heat dissipation - but maybe it did not have proper contact. As i did not want to clutter the phone with thermal paste, i ordered a pad on ebay (for about 2€), cut it into smaller pieces and attached it to the parts that are known to become hot (see above). Then i attached my phone to the charger and ran a lot of apps, that would usually make my phone crash (Music Player, Skype, Internet Browsing at the same time). The back of the phone grew hotter and hotter (and was, in the end, a lot hotter than anything i have encountered over the last few month with my crashing phone), but it was stable!
So, if you are annoyed with your overheating HTC Desire: This might be a fix for you:
Buy a thermal pad (as it is used for CPUs, GPUs or Chipsets, mine was about 0,5mm thick) and attach it to the metal parts over SIM and microSDHC as well as the tiny black square and the area to the left of it. Mount the battery cover and enjoy!
Hope i could help
Terminator
I also posted this in another thread, but it might be a bit easier to find that way.
EDIT: Turns out, the "fix" only delays the reboot-loop. It appears a lot more stable, yet it did still annoy me. Yesterday i handed it in for a replacement.
Samsung reveals the Galaxy S3 quad-core processor
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/samsung-reveals-the-galaxy-s3-quad-core-processor-1077741
Samsung promises "powerful quad core performance" and reveals that the Exynos 4 Quad doubles the performance of its dual-core predecessor, "while consuming 20% less power".
Any of you guys fearing Galaxy S3 will do to ONEX what S2 did to sensation : ) ?
Any thoughts ?
Fatelord said:
Samsung reveals the Galaxy S3 quad-core processor
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...als-the-galaxy-s3-quad-core-processor-1077741
Samsung promises "powerful quad core performance" and reveals that the Exynos 4 Quad doubles the performance of its dual-core predecessor, "while consuming 20% less power".
Any of you guys fearing Galaxy S3 will do to ONEX what S2 did to sensation : ) ?
Any thoughts ?
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Well if they don't improve touchwiz (or hopefully remove it) then ill be keeping my one x ;-)
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Fatelord said:
Samsung reveals the Galaxy S3 quad-core processor
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/samsung-reveals-the-galaxy-s3-quad-core-processor-1077741
Samsung promises "powerful quad core performance" and reveals that the Exynos 4 Quad doubles the performance of its dual-core predecessor, "while consuming 20% less power".
Any of you guys fearing Galaxy S3 will do to ONEX what S2 did to sensation : ) ?
Any thoughts ?
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Why should I fear? Every devices has it's own cons and pros I know what I get when I buy HOX and I know what will happen when I wait for SGS3. Maybe they'll show off with some stupid benchmark which I don't care. They just announced the processor will take a long time before coimng to a Smart phone.
benchmarks mean jack..it is all about what the user experience of the phone provides to the consumer that the vast majority are looking into now.. And i think that the One X provides that now. It has the all round good factor about it. Great specs but also great experience..What i mean it has everything in one. Great for games and great for music and all the other things to improve the phone even more with development
This thread will get closed, not relevant to the HOX. Although patiently waiting to see what it brings to the table
The original Galaxy S had a supposedly more powerful GPU than the Desire.
That didn't stop it from freezing every second and randomly rebooting every few minutes. It also didn't change the fact it felt like a fragile toy. It didn't change the fact that the plastic used was the exact same as what you'd find on their €50 Europa.
Samsung can up the numbers as much as they'd like but it won't stand for anything if it doesn't feel right. User experience is everything, numbers are nothing.
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benchmarks mean jack..it is all about what the user experience of the phone provides to the consumer that the vast majority are looking into now.. And i think that the One X provides that now. It has the all round good factor about it. Great specs but also great experience..What i mean it has everything in one. Great for games and great for music and all the other things to improve the phone even more with development
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I agree with these comments. I think you don't need the extra power anymore for quadcores. It's about milliseconds, dont really notice it with human eyes.
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One thing is for sure..it won't look as beautiful n stunning n give a premium feel as my One X..its gonna be the same cheap plasticy finish..n dull..n if they used the pentile matrix again with oversaturated colors (like in galaxy note) its gonna be having the same black clipping issues..grey squares all over black..
M done with Samsung..I don't care if they put 6 cores in there..I totally love my One X..
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NoobTerminator said:
benchmarks mean jack..it is all about what the user experience of the phone provides to the consumer that the vast majority are looking into now.. And i think that the One X provides that now. It has the all round good factor about it. Great specs but also great experience..What i mean it has everything in one. Great for games and great for music and all the other things to improve the phone even more with development
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Its funny how people can be hypocrites. I'm nit saying you in particular but everyone is showing their HOX benchmark all proud but when we talk about the Galaxy s 3 then all of a sudden benchmarks don't matter anymore.I expect the galaxy s3 to mop the floor with the one x in terms of user experience, speed, battery life. The only area where I think the one x might be better than the S3 is build quality and MAYBE screen cause as awesome as the one x screen is, we have yet to see what the S3 screen is all about.
Unless the g3 comes in a One X chassis and runs Sense 4.0, i won't be interested. All it will be good for is comparing stats.
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Its funny how people can be hypocrites. I'm nit saying you in particular but everyone is showing their HOX benchmark all proud but when we talk about the Galaxy s 3 then all of a sudden benchmarks don't matter anymore.I expect the galaxy s3 to mop the floor with the one x in terms of user experience, speed, battery life. The only area where I think the one x might be better than the S3 is build quality and MAYBE screen cause as awesome as the one x screen is, we have yet to see what the S3 screen is all about.
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i can't physically notice the pixels on the 720p screen, why the hell would i want a 1080 screen on a phone ffs?
anyway, expectations are the mother of all ****-ups...
imho another bull**** flame bait thread.
mod lockdown imminent
Benchmarks are useless. For me personally I find the HOX plenty fast for my needs. Sure it'll improve with kernels and such.
More importantly UI is a major factor. TouchWiz albeit decent is poor compared to Sense. Sense is lovely few gripes but lovely none the less.
Now if Samsung totally revamp and totally recreate TouchWiz then that will be something to consider. I loved the SGS2 but spent most of it's last months on AOKP.
Personal preferences, I prefer the simplicity and usefulness of Sense and it's widgets hence why I came back home to HTC. Competition is good for us
I expect the S3 to have
1. better battery life (32nm process, same A9 core, AMOLED uses less power, bigger overall battery in S3) when in use,
2. similar stand by time (no power saving core),
3. similar computing power (Antutu being the benchmark as it just gives raw number crunching results).
4. S3 will have a much worse screen than the One X (AMOLED simply ruins the colors. My old HD2 wipes the floor with the S2 concerning screen colors).
5. S3 will be boring. Have you seen TouchWiz? Sense is bliss compared to it. Also, the S2 feels cheap (but then again so shoes the One X compared to my HD2 and even more to iPhone)
All in all.. my choice would be a well-manufactured One XL (best battery life and best processor but lower performance - that I can live with). But they don't sell them here.. and they don't seem to manufacture many good ones yet.
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Its funny how people can be hypocrites. I'm nit saying you in particular but everyone is showing their HOX benchmark all proud but when we talk about the Galaxy s 3 then all of a sudden benchmarks don't matter anymore.I expect the galaxy s3 to mop the floor with the one x in terms of user experience, speed, battery life. The only area where I think the one x might be better than the S3 is build quality and MAYBE screen cause as awesome as the one x screen is, we have yet to see what the S3 screen is all about.
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There are people who are obsessed with benchmark. But IMO these benchmark can be tweaked we saw an article where benchmark app was compromised and tweak to their chipset. By unlocking FSP cap you can get better scores but you'll see lot of display glitches. That's why I really don't care about benchmark. In todays world whatever you buy the latest and greatest will be out-dates in matter of days. You can't keep up with it. As far as software I don't care for both Sense and TouchWiz. Anyway I'll strip it and flash CM once it's out.
As long as the SGS3 has external micro SD I'll be getting it over the ONE X, the ONE X without external memory support is too Apple like for me. I like freedom, thus the reason I choose Android.
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Its funny how people can be hypocrites. I'm nit saying you in particular but everyone is showing their HOX benchmark all proud but when we talk about the Galaxy s 3 then all of a sudden benchmarks don't matter anymore.I expect the galaxy s3 to mop the floor with the one x in terms of user experience, speed, battery life. The only area where I think the one x might be better than the S3 is build quality and MAYBE screen cause as awesome as the one x screen is, we have yet to see what the S3 screen is all about.
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Come again why are you on this side of the forums if you think that the S3 is going to mop the floor with the one x in terms of everything basically? We get it you love the S3 and you really do not like the HOX. But for my life i have not read anyone go on about the specs behind this phone and raving about it. I for one got this phone not because of tegra 3 and because of it being the first quadcore but because of like i said the user experience...
Benchmarks are for those who love to brag how big and powerful their phone is. Like something else to feel good about themselves Look at the S2..Now that phone was the best and maybe still one of the top 2 phones in the world in my eyes. It had it all. But when it came down to user experience it sucked.
In regarding games you needed chainfire 3d to be able to play tegra games. I can do that without that with my HOX. And it will probably be the same with the s3.
Quality of sound. Again the S2 lacked way behind. It needed Supercurio to release his Voodoo Louder app to give some sense of good audio. My HOX comes with beats audio already with the phone no need for anything extra. And i bet it will be the same with the s3. All power no end product.
Touchwiz. I actually loved touchwiz. But now using sense i love sense even more.
Now no denying the s3 will be the king of android phones when it comes out. But you will find that there are people out there who prefer the HOX for the overall user experience and not because of the specs it provides..And lets not forget this phone is quite powerful in its own right and will only get better with the help from development here...So maybe you need to go somewhere else to rave about your s3
And i agree..This thread needs closing because it is becoming a flame war and provides nothing for our gorgeous phone
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Any of you guys fearing Galaxy S3 will do to ONEX what S2 did to sensation : ) ?
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And what exactly did the S2 do to the sensation? AFAIK, it was a worthy competitor, but was also buggy as hell (GPS problems) and lets not forget that it felt like a cheap toy and came with touchwhizz.
Lots of people bought the sensation after having held both devices.
I have no doubt that the S3 will be a great phone. But that won't make the One X any less.
"Mop the floor" lol. It will be a little bit faster in some respects, as is always the same with the next new smartphone, it has slightly more advanced tech than the previous one.
"mopping the floor" is like comparing the sg3 to a nokia 3310.
But the Nokia wins on battery life
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Come again why are you on this side of the forums if you think that the S3 is going to mop the floor with the one x in terms of everything basically? We get it you love the S3 and you really do not like the HOX. But for my life i have not read anyone go on about the specs behind this phone and raving about it. I for one got this phone not because of tegra 3 and because of it being the first quadcore but because of like i said the user experience...
Benchmarks are for those who love to brag how big and powerful their phone is. Like something else to feel good about themselves Look at the S2..Now that phone was the best and maybe still one of the top 2 phones in the world in my eyes. It had it all. But when it came down to user experience it sucked.
In regarding games you needed chainfire 3d to be able to play tegra games. I can do that without that with my HOX. And it will probably be the same with the s3.
Quality of sound. Again the S2 lacked way behind. It needed Supercurio to release his Voodoo Louder app to give some sense of good audio. My HOX comes with beats audio already with the phone no need for anything extra. And i bet it will be the same with the s3. All power no end product.
Touchwiz. I actually loved touchwiz. But now using sense i love sense even more.
Now no denying the s3 will be the king of android phones when it comes out. But you will find that there are people out there who prefer the HOX for the overall user experience and not because of the specs it provides..And lets not forget this phone is quite powerful in its own right and will only get better with the help from development here...So maybe you need to go somewhere else to rave about your s3
And i agree..This thread needs closing because it is becoming a flame war and provides nothing for our gorgeous phone
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And i agree..This thread needs closing -- but you rant at full steam like rest of the guys. You are one of the "criminals" who's taking part in the fight, and yet you have to portray a righteous image about yourself. wow!
In regarding games you needed chainfire 3d to be able to play tegra games
-- I need you to read your statement again properly. So, some developers decided not to make their apps compatible with Mali400 GPU and utilize proprietary nvidia compression. I guess it's Samsung's fault that those developers are not interested to run their apps/games on non-Tegra devices. You don't need CF3D for "normal" games. If this is your excuse for poor user experience, blame the devs.
Hey I was wondering if the One X has any noticeable differences in performance compared to the S3 gaming and UI wise. I have an S3 but I like the Tegra optimized games and the design of the One X, but i heard that there is noticeable lag and the S3 is better. Please help with my decision. Thanks!
Yes, Sense is much heavier UI, much more than TouchWiz, laggs happens, sometimes often, hox software isnt good enough to make this phone good enough, bugs happens, but its still good smatrphone.
Hope HTC will get his ass to work, and fix all of this ... sh*t
Mentu12 said:
Yes, Sense is my heavier UI, much more than TouchWiz, laggs happens, sometimes often, hox software isnt good enough to make this phone good enough, bugs happens, but its still good smatrphone.
Hope HTC will get his ass to work, and fix all of this ... sh*t
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Is that a yes that I should get it? Also can you confirm what people say that gaming and music are better on the One X (International), over the S3 (International). Those are my two main selling point because I already like the One X build quality better.
Well imo sgs3 is better for music, hox dont have microsd slot, on stock firmware sounds awful, and battery is worst than g3, with mods its better ofc.
For games ? Yeah u got dedicated tegra games but now those games is tech demos, good graphics, sux gameplay, and most of gameloft games dont support tegra, asphlat 6 for example but i heard asphlat 7 works on hox.
Hox got better design and quality of build its clear, better screen, and sense despite its sometimes laggy and slow is best android cover ;-)
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Thanks, but the big question is if I should trade my S3 in for the One X or if the S3 is just as good. Also which one is more future proof in terms of performance?
You should really just go into a phone shop and try a One X. Both the S3 and One X have extensively modified versions of Android on them, which in both cases is for the worse IMO and doesn't offer the butter-smooth and clean experience I wanted Android for in the first place.
As such, which one you'll prefer is largely down to taste. For example I think the S3's built-in SMS app is horrible, whereas the One X's is great. Conversely, I think the One X's built-in browser and email client are garbage.
Performance-wise it might be the S3 is smoother, although in all honesty I didn't pick up on much of a difference when testing the two. However make no mistake, when you get a custom ROM on there which takes away all the HTC crap this phone can blaze — if Jelly Bean ROMs start appearing soon with its reputed 'project butter' performance enhancements it's going to be perfect.
As for the hardware: One X looks and feels infinitely better, S3 feels a little tacky and cheap IMO and doesn't look that hot either. The One X is probably the best industrial design I've seen for a phone yet. Also the One X does win on the specs front, although the battery life is a little inferior as a result.
Get more than one opinion don't be a tool. Read up! I like the One X mine works just fine but you have to set it up right. Almost all quad core phones is preference do you like the One X features or S3s? Sense or TouchWiz etc. etc.
Read up around here and in the dev section. see what you can do with the One X if you buy it.
As such, which one you'll prefer is largely down to taste. For example I think the S3's built-in SMS app is horrible, whereas the One X's is great. Conversely, I think the One X's built-in browser and email client are garbage.
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See its all preference I like the One X browser and how it will re-flow the text so you don't have to keep sliding the screen back and forth and zooming in and out etc. I like how it does the word wrapping so you just scroll up and down while reading the article you focused in on it might take a big long extra second to load a page but IMO its worth it. To each his own, what some like others don't.
Answer for ur question its not that simple, its rly similar phones, only details make them different, Sense VS TouchWiz, SLCD2 vs AMOLED (with pentail), Tegra3 vs Exynos. U need to know what u rly need i picked up hox Which is more for future ? Non of them. Soon we will see brand new snapdragon s4 quad core which kill tegra3 and exynos in performance.
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Answer for ur question its not that simple, its rly similar phones, only details make them different, Sense VS TouchWiz, SLCD2 vs AMOLED (with pentail), Tegra3 vs Exynos. U need to know what u rly need i picked up hox Which is more for future ? Non of them. Soon we will see brand new snapdragon s4 quad core which kill tegra3 and exynos in performance.
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AGREE 100% that is going to be a beast but everyone just needs to enjoy what we have now because it wont last too long at the rate that technology is moving. More manufacturers are starting to arrive on the scene. I still want to see how this new PowerVR with the new Quad core is like. Sit back and laugh at Crapple HTC +1 for the win yesterday great!
hi man
i switched from sgs2 to htc one x
and i have to say im not impressed at all
and galaxy s3 is better than htc one x in term of hardware
and for gaming sgs3 is better than the hox
im having lags with some games some times on my htc one x i guess its a software problem
but still i dont recommend switching from sgs3 to htc one x
because imo galaxy s3 is a better phone than the htc one x
but for music i think htc one x a better a little because of the beats audio and in terms of design i think htc one x looks better
but for the rest galaxy s3 owns,,,,,
even my sgs2 preform better than htc one x in some tasks
so stick to ur sgs3 man its a great phone
Rszafraniec93 said:
Hey I was wondering if the One X has any noticeable differences in performance compared to the S3 gaming and UI wise. I have an S3 but I like the Tegra optimized games and the design of the One X, but i heard that there is noticeable lag and the S3 is better. Please help with my decision. Thanks!
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No you should not. Instead you should donate money to third world countries and save people from hunger and preventable diseases.
Hi all,
I've tried searching high and low for this information to no avail.
I'm looking to purchase a new phone in the next few days and I've been looking at the HTC One X and the Samsung Galaxy SIII. As an HTC HD2 user for the last 3(ish) years (running multiple Android ROMS), I really want to stick with HTC, plus I'm a nVidia fanboi. However, a lot of the benchmarks out their say the the SIII smokes the One X in pretty much all aspects, even though the One X has the best stats on paper.
I know there is a huge One X update coming soon that improves performance, but I was wondering if there has been an objective benchmark study of these two devices using the same custom ROM? No bloatware or fancy widgets running in the back ground, just a head-to-head raw power benchmark on a level playing field?
It just seems strange to me that that the One X runs around 90-150 in linpack while the SIII runs in the 120-180 region using standard factory settings. Even the guy in the Youtube video I watch was pretty confused.
I'm likely to still go for the HTC One X as I just prefer the looks and the company themselves. But I don't know if I'll be able to shake the annoyance that I may have bought the "inferior" device when it comes to performance.
Any information you have would be great.
Regards,
Dan
Generic games will run better on the S3, but THD games on Tegra3 smoke everything else out there.
There is no level playing field, because nobody is playing the same game.
dillinger88 said:
Hi all,
I've tried searching high and low for this information to no avail.
I'm looking to purchase a new phone in the next few days and I've been looking at the HTC One X and the Samsung Galaxy SIII. As an HTC HD2 user for the last 3(ish) years (running multiple Android ROMS), I really want to stick with HTC, plus I'm a nVidia fanboi. However, a lot of the benchmarks out their say the the SIII smokes the One X in pretty much all aspects, even though the One X has the best stats on paper.
I know there is a huge One X update coming soon that improves performance, but I was wondering if there has been an objective benchmark study of these two devices using the same custom ROM? No bloatware or fancy widgets running in the back ground, just a head-to-head raw power benchmark on a level playing field?
It just seems strange to me that that the One X runs around 90-150 in linpack while the SIII runs in the 120-180 region using standard factory settings. Even the guy in the Youtube video I watch was pretty confused.
I'm likely to still go for the HTC One X as I just prefer the looks and the company themselves. But I don't know if I'll be able to shake the annoyance that I may have bought the "inferior" device when it comes to performance.
Any information you have would be great.
Regards,
Dan
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Benchmarks don't mean anything...
In real life only performance matters
If you love Sense then u will surely love Sense 4.1 its super fast and super smooth
Gaming experience is better on HOX and in THD games u get extra effects which are just awesome and many Tegra optimized games are going to be released this year
I have used both phones and i personally i like HOX better and HOX screen is the best
Latest benchmarks easily are more than S3 after the new update
Agreed that benchmarks don't mean much except comparing between personal setups but I got an unlocked quad core S3 and an unlocked quad core One X. I have CM10 with a kernel overclocked to 1704 on S3...Antutu 14000. Hox stock out of the box 12500. Once I root and get a kernel on there...wow! My offer still stands for a generous donation for someone to PM me later today and guide me through the unlock/ root process. I have been a Sammy guy for my last 5 phones except the EVO LTE which I also have s on unlocked.
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JohnCorleone said:
Agreed that benchmarks don't mean much except comparing between personal setups but I got an unlocked quad core S3 and an unlocked quad core One X. I have CM10 with a kernel overclocked to 1704 on S3...Antutu 14000. Hox stock out of the box 12500. Once I root and get a kernel on there...wow! My offer still stands for a generous donation for someone to PM me later today and guide me through the unlock/ root process. I have been a Sammy guy for my last 5 phones except the EVO LTE which I also have s on unlocked.
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No money needed,
Just flash a custom rom & boom, your rooted.
ARHD is a very popular one, as it's completely stock based just tweaked.
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dillinger88 said:
Hi all,
I've tried searching high and low for this information to no avail.
I'm looking to purchase a new phone in the next few days and I've been looking at the HTC One X and the Samsung Galaxy SIII. As an HTC HD2 user for the last 3(ish) years (running multiple Android ROMS), I really want to stick with HTC, plus I'm a nVidia fanboi. However, a lot of the benchmarks out their say the the SIII smokes the One X in pretty much all aspects, even though the One X has the best stats on paper.
I know there is a huge One X update coming soon that improves performance, but I was wondering if there has been an objective benchmark study of these two devices using the same custom ROM? No bloatware or fancy widgets running in the back ground, just a head-to-head raw power benchmark on a level playing field?
It just seems strange to me that that the One X runs around 90-150 in linpack while the SIII runs in the 120-180 region using standard factory settings. Even the guy in the Youtube video I watch was pretty confused.
I'm likely to still go for the HTC One X as I just prefer the looks and the company themselves. But I don't know if I'll be able to shake the annoyance that I may have bought the "inferior" device when it comes to performance.
Any information you have would be great.
Regards,
Dan
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The One X update is already outed and brings massive boost to the entire UI
as for games, its a know quantity, THD games are hotter on the One X, Gameloft games runs better on non tegra
we also have a gaming boost app which we worked hard to optimize and squeeze out the gaming power of Tegra3, renovate gaming boost + faux kernel for optimal gaming on sense roms, CM roms all you need is faux or any kernel with single core step removed and GPU unlocked
I bought HOX after playing around with my bros S3 for two weeks. AND, its the best decision I've made in quite a while. Screen is twice as better than s3, I've always loved sense, touchwiz is too newbie like, ( thats my opinion plz ) AND, HOX IS SUPER SEXY!!!
THD games rock, loving Heroes call atm
aban714 said:
I bought HOX after playing around with my bros S3 for two weeks. AND, its the best decision I've made in quite a while. Screen is twice as better than s3, I've always loved sense, touchwiz is too newbie like, ( thats my opinion plz ) AND, HOX IS SUPER SEXY!!!
THD games rock, loving Heroes call atm
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I have both the HOX and S3 too!
After 3 months, I sold my S3 and keep my HOX and had never regretted it as the latest 2.1.7 updates has made HOX one the the fastest and smoothest phone ever, and not forgetting the awesome and featured packed's Sense 4.1!:good:
S3's UI is only for kids in the kindegarden...simply awe-full, just like kids' drawings!
You may also want to check on this video byAshwin:
Galaxy S3 vs One X (Real DAY to DAY usage, NOT just specs) - Part 1 - Cursed4Eva:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYOXv_VuNNw&feature=youtu.be
Thank you for all your responses.
I went for the HOX in the end. It arrived today. It's pretty freaking awesome, I have to say.
I know that benchmarks mean nothing really, I was just wondering if there was some reason why the S3 did better in the benches.
Cheers again!
dillinger88 said:
Thank you for all your responses.
I went for the HOX in the end. It arrived today. It's pretty freaking awesome, I have to say.
I know that benchmarks mean nothing really, I was just wondering if there was some reason why the S3 did better in the benches.
Cheers again!
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Which benches?
HOX has a higher stock score for both quadrant and the more popular Antutu
SGS3 had earlier higher benchmarks in these programs as it had 4.0.4 against the HOX which was only on 4.0.3
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dillinger88 said:
Thank you for all your responses.
I went for the HOX in the end. It arrived today. It's pretty freaking awesome, I have to say.
I know that benchmarks mean nothing really, I was just wondering if there was some reason why the S3 did better in the benches.
Cheers again!
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I have both international versions (S3 and One X) and for some reason it seems certain benchmark apps do better on a,Sammy and,others better on HTC. Just the fact that the One X is right there even with Sense says a lot. One more cup of coffee and I am off to root my One X...edit...just got the 2.17 update on Hox and stock and bloated its smoking my S3 with CM10 and a kernel overclocked to 1704
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I know they mean nothing but all I did was the 2.17 pushed update. First pic before and 2nd after the update.
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Anoo benchmarks mean nothing but since I updated my phone on monday and ran benchmarks comparing to my girlfriends s3.. One X is now on par with s3 although IMO I feel my phone has hit a smooth spot, and is pretty much on par with s3 on smoothness so it's either get the s3 with touchwiz or sense.. There the only 2 things I see different about the devices since recent update!
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dillinger88 said:
Thank you for all your responses.
I went for the HOX in the end. It arrived today. It's pretty freaking awesome, I have to say.
I know that benchmarks mean nothing really, I was just wondering if there was some reason why the S3 did better in the benches.
Cheers again!
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I Have a HOX, my Nephew has a SgSIII. Both on stock roms and unrooted.
downloaded Quadrant on both today just playing around... and the HoX had the better result. Bear in mind also that i have about 100 apps installed and he only has about 3... (Not sure if this would make a difference) But my general score was about 1000 higher than his,
regards to gaming we both have a drag racing game and a game called temple run. When we were both playing side by side his phone looked like it was lagging ever ever so slightly compared to mine... and the graphics and screen were better. And performance.
Oh yeah and Tegra HD games are absolutely awesome! Download some!
So thats my opinion. After playing with his SgSIII for a few hours today i dont think its all its looked out to be. HoX all the way!