Hey guys, this is not a QQ post like many others, just wanted to point out some things , 1 week ago i sent my galaxy note for repair and got HTC ONE X instead, the phone was running quite nice i have to say it was unbranded one even tho it was bought from Vodafone in Czech Republic, i received both OTAs immediately after the release. The phone itself have really beautifull design i have to say its probably the best looking phone right now but the issues it have thats just bollox, i had flickering when the brightness was on the lowest settings which i didnt use anyway but it was there, battery on this device is just i dont know, htc is boasting with Nvidia Tegra but come on, 20-30 minutes of playing and ur phone is dead, standby battery life is quite nice and it would last for 2-3 days but when u turn the screen on you can just see the battery goin down, which is quite disturbing i got to the point when i was really scared to even turn it on This morning i found a thread here about missing storage so i was like hey ill give it a go aswell, and boom 3gb missing, i know u can format ur card and stuff but seriously, if it would have microSD slot people would not complain that much but having to copy all data over and over again if u do the mistake and pull the device out without removing it safely its just lol. I know the device is new and there are always issues with it, but come on my note didnt have so many issues, and the ones htc is experiencing that are not just minor problems, its facing construction problems, overheating , battery drainage screen flickering,lagging tegra games and maybe even others. I was really sad to return the phone but come on, i spent around 600 euro on it and i would expect some kind of level. Im back to my note now, and tbh im just gonna wait for S3 to test it out and see, i know new phones always have issues but HTC should have waited with the release of ONE X to make it perfect phone, its beautifull designed, it has gorgeous display, nice camera but the issues are letting it down.
what i am not getting is....
You sent your Note for repair and got the HOX, was this a temporary solution? As you say you spent 600 euro on the HOX but now you have your Note back.............very confusing.
nemmie_cz said:
Hey guys, this is not a QQ post like many others, just wanted to point out some things , 1 week ago i sent my galaxy note for repair and got HTC ONE X instead, the phone was running quite nice i have to say it was unbranded one even tho it was bought from Vodafone in Czech Republic, i received both OTAs immediately after the release. The phone itself have really beautifull design i have to say its probably the best looking phone right now but the issues it have thats just bollox, i had flickering when the brightness was on the lowest settings which i didnt use anyway but it was there, battery on this device is just i dont know, htc is boasting with Nvidia Tegra but come on, 20-30 minutes of playing and ur phone is dead, standby battery life is quite nice and it would last for 2-3 days but when u turn the screen on you can just see the battery goin down, which is quite disturbing i got to the point when i was really scared to even turn it on This morning i found a thread here about missing storage so i was like hey ill give it a go aswell, and boom 3gb missing, i know u can format ur card and stuff but seriously, if it would have microSD slot people would not complain that much but having to copy all data over and over again if u do the mistake and pull the device out without removing it safely its just lol. I know the device is new and there are always issues with it, but come on my note didnt have so many issues, and the ones htc is experiencing that are not just minor problems, its facing construction problems, overheating , battery drainage screen flickering,lagging tegra games and maybe even others. I was really sad to return the phone but come on, i spent around 600 euro on it and i would expect some kind of level. Im back to my note now, and tbh im just gonna wait for S3 to test it out and see, i know new phones always have issues but HTC should have waited with the release of ONE X to make it perfect phone, its beautifull designed, it has gorgeous display, nice camera but the issues are letting it down.
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what i am not getting is....
You sent your Note for repair and got the HOX, was this a temporary solution? As you say you spent 600 euro on the HOX but now you have your Note back.............very confusing.
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nope i wanted to sell Note when it got back from repair and keep the HOX but today when i got the call from the store that my note is repaired i changed my mind and returned hox, cause i dont really have time to sort issues htc should have sorted for us, just imagine people who dont read these forums and face issues hox have ? they are not gonna fix them by themselves, the phone should be in stage where you shouldnt really tweak the system and stuff to be able to use the phone normally, this forums right now is just filled with people who are assuring themselves they did the right choice of buying this phone, i see people saying they returned the phone 4-5 times, that doesnt feel right tbh
you sent note for repair, bought a HOX for 600 and now you are selling your HOX? I will give you twenty quid for it.
Seriously, you are moaning about the HOX but you havent had any issues but you are scared of what you read on here........
By the way, why was your Note in for "repair"?
My HOX has been fine, no issues whatsoever, i reckon you are one of these people that when you are ill with a simple cold, you type it in to google and end up worrying you have cancer.
The point is, I am not unlocked and of course still running on completely stock rom and never experience any issue mentioned here and there.
Dont get me wrong, I used to have Desire, Incredible S, Sensation, EVO 3D and I was first to apply S-OFF/unlock back in the days and did loads of mods to them, but H1X is just simply better, so flawless that I still have no intention to unlock.
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you sent note for repair, bought a HOX for 600 and now you are selling your HOX? I will give you twenty quid for it.
Seriously, you are moaning about the HOX but you havent had any issues but you are scared of what you read on here........
By the way, why was your Note in for "repair"?
My HOX has been fine, no issues whatsoever, i reckon you are one of these people that when you are ill with a simple cold, you type it in to google and end up worrying you have cancer.
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I lost around 3gb of space on the phone memory, when i pressed the screen on edges you could just feel how the display goes down a little bit + it made the purple **** on the edges, battery was just horrible when u used the phone i cant even imagine ur traveling somewhere and play something for 30 mins that would just kill the battery, i lost around 40 percent of battery life just by downloading The Dark Meadow data with the screen on, which took around 10 minutes, thats not normal if u ask me, and no im not selling it i just returned it in the 2 weeks period, why u blame me i dont get i just pointed out some things i didnt like, but honestly im not gonna transfer all my data to pc format my card every single time i loose some space, theres few flawless devices out there if it would be the one i had i would keep it but with so many issues i rather gave up on it
to be perfectly honest, i don't blame you if you had the flex and screen issues, it drives you mad! the screen lamination issues are a total disgrace
HTC better sort this and quickly
funny some people are still in denial around here, would you like to suggest to someone in your family getting a HOX and struggling like the rest of us with defects?
The phone is amazing but we need to pressure HTC to sort this out quick and most important never box devices in such state! if you are fan of HTC you should care about this
never seen this much drama on the Desire HD forum during release, i'm sorry ask anyone with a DHD
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to be perfectly honest, i don't blame you if you had the flex and screen issues, it drives you mad!
HTC better sort this and quickly
funny some people are still in denial around here, would you like to suggest to someone in your family getting a HOX and struggling like the rest of us with defects?
The phone is amazing but we need to pressure HTC to sort this out quick and most important never box devices in such state! if you are fan of HTC you should care about this
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To be honest i was really sad to return it back, my intention was to keep the phone, but right now untill they sort their mess i would not recommend it, i dont say all units are faulty, but most of them is, i was having Desire HD for 1 year and it was perfect device, apart from battery The HOX is really gorgeous i had a white one, the camera was pleasure to use, got some nice pics from it, display i wont even compare it to my note, its totally different league, but the issues i was haivng with it just drove me crazy, not to mention camera lens getting scratches really easy, and yes i was using the case and i wasnt even wearing it in jeans or anything, im really carefull when it gets to phones, i might actually buy it again when they sort these issues, but right now it was a no for me
no denail here, phone is perfect and if you have one of the issues then that is unfortunate, but the OP seems to be making mountain out of a molehill and all this while his Note was broken.
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no denail here, phone is perfect and if you have one of the issues then that is unfortunate, but the OP seems to be making mountain out of a molehill and all this while his Note was broken.
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note was having issues with s-pen only and camera software, while hox is having issues overall, and its not just minor software issues mate, if u have flawless device then ye im jealous, but theres ****loads of faulty ones, you can see many people returning and replacing the device multiple times, havent seen that before
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note was having issues with s-pen only and camera software, while hox is having issues overall, and its not just minor software issues mate, if u have flawless device then ye im jealous, but theres ****loads of faulty ones, you can see many people returning and replacing the device multiple times, havent seen that before
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yes im gagging for a flawless grey, if someone has it and so sure its easy to get another please by all means PM me i will buy immediately
i really don't care if we scare new comers, HTC needs to learn a lesson here
you simply don't ship a highly praised 600$ flagship device in this state
if it was apple we would have already buried them by now
everyone was so excited and you get that box with the bloody cursed "im the one" sticker and surprise!
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yes im gagging for a flawless grey, if someone has it and so sure its easy to get another please by all means PM me i will buy immediately
i really don't care if we scare new comers, HTC needs to learn a lesson here
you simply don't ship a highly praised 600$ flagship device in this state
if it was apple we would have already buried them by now
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Thats what i mean i already said the phone itself is great, and i can imagine there has been alot of people fired in HTC for this, cause this didnt make a good name for their flagship
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This morning i found a thread here about missing storage so i was like hey ill give it a go aswell, and boom 3gb missing, i know u can format ur card and stuff but seriously, if it would have microSD slot people would not complain that much but having to copy all data over and over again if u do the mistake and pull the device out without removing it safely its just lol.
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First, learn to use paragraphs to separate your thoughts. Streams of consciousness are difficult to comprehend.
Second, do you believe everything you read? I posted some comments in the SD card thread before the Chinese tree monkeys spun it out of control. The 3GB isn't missing; it's in protected space that CHKDSK can't read. It's because HTC's using a different method of managing storage. It's why the One X shows up as "mass storage" device and not "MTP" like other ICS devices. The XL has only 16GB of memory. Don't you think the people on their forum are smart enough to notice if 2/3 was missing the way people are claiming here?
If I get a SGS3 it'll be to get away from posts like this and the random and pointless crisis posts on this forum.
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note was having issues with s-pen only and camera software, while hox is having issues overall, and its not just minor software issues mate, if u have flawless device then ye im jealous, but theres ****loads of faulty ones, you can see many people returning and replacing the device multiple times, havent seen that before
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But all i can gather is your HOX had 3gb missing (which it isnt) and when you leave the battery on playing games it drains the battery. Everything else you have only read about it.
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Hey guys, this is not a QQ post like many others, just wanted to point out some things , 1 week ago i sent my galaxy note for repair and got HTC ONE X instead, the phone was running quite nice i have to say it was unbranded one even tho it was bought from Vodafone in Czech Republic, i received both OTAs immediately after the release. The phone itself have really beautifull design i have to say its probably the best looking phone right now but the issues it have thats just bollox, i had flickering when the brightness was on the lowest settings which i didnt use anyway but it was there, battery on this device is just i dont know, htc is boasting with Nvidia Tegra but come on, 20-30 minutes of playing and ur phone is dead, standby battery life is quite nice and it would last for 2-3 days but when u turn the screen on you can just see the battery goin down, which is quite disturbing i got to the point when i was really scared to even turn it on This morning i found a thread here about missing storage so i was like hey ill give it a go aswell, and boom 3gb missing, i know u can format ur card and stuff but seriously, if it would have microSD slot people would not complain that much but having to copy all data over and over again if u do the mistake and pull the device out without removing it safely its just lol. I know the device is new and there are always issues with it, but come on my note didnt have so many issues, and the ones htc is experiencing that are not just minor problems, its facing construction problems, overheating , battery drainage screen flickering,lagging tegra games and maybe even others. I was really sad to return the phone but come on, i spent around 600 euro on it and i would expect some kind of level. Im back to my note now, and tbh im just gonna wait for S3 to test it out and see, i know new phones always have issues but HTC should have waited with the release of ONE X to make it perfect phone, its beautifull designed, it has gorgeous display, nice camera but the issues are letting it down.
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Ta raaa pet.
twistedh said:
Ta raaa pet.
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Ehh, Dansih languike?
Vallhall said:
Ehh, Dansih languike?
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lol, mancunian i believe or geordie...
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I'm loving my HOXL so far, battery is better than my iPhone and any other android device I've ever owned.. That in itself is astounding considering the screen / resolution.
hamdir said:
yes im gagging for a flawless grey, if someone has it and so sure its easy to get another please by all means PM me i will buy immediately
i really don't care if we scare new comers, HTC needs to learn a lesson here
you simply don't ship a highly praised 600$ flagship device in this state
if it was apple we would have already buried them by now
everyone was so excited and you get that box with the bloody cursed "im the one" sticker and surprise!
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you can have my one then if you are willing to pay top dollar get me the s3 and you can have my gorgeous working HOX..No problems no gaps no nothing. Perfect customer and love it
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I came to this conclusion 20 minutes ago, when my Desire went to hell again after 3 f*****g days from return from repair!!!
It froze during absolutely normal usage. After pulling out battery, it stuck in bootloop. Bootloader stopped working after connecting to laptop, fastboot failed to connect to laptop and bootloader won't start at all anymore. Hard reset didn't work.
As I said: Piece of crap.
Murphy's law: "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong"
Well, i'm sorry for that, if i was u, I'd take the opportunity to take a new phone
Not sure if I can do that.
I quite like my Desire to be honest.
Although I must say I played with a Metro UI theme today, and I liked the UI a lot.
I also finally got round to adding a custom ROM last night. Tried a few, and now settled on one.
The limited memory issue isn't one if you know what you're doing.
And I was lucky enough to get an OLED screen.
I would cry though if I had to send it in and they returned one with a SLCD.
So I can feel your pain, a little.
Question: Is it normal that Desire gets warm below battery? Because, it gets seriously warm after few seconds. Perhaps an overheating issue?
Maybe you experienced the dreaded overheat problem...
After a few seconds..?
Even on idle..?
IMHO it's not normal...
Search for the Desire reboot / overheat thread...
See if you have the same symptoms...
ok I love a piece of crap...
I think you should send it to repair again
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ok I love a piece of crap...
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+1.
A groundbreaking phone when it was released and gave Apple a shake-up they are still yet to recover from.
Sorry to hear your device is having issues, but to suggest this phone is a POS, based purely on one bad experience, is seriously missing the forest for the trees.
Best phone I ever owned and will have it for a long time to come. So glad I bought this and not anything else.
777ace said:
+1.
A groundbreaking phone when it was released and gave Apple a shake-up they are still yet to recover from.
Sorry to hear your device is having issues, but to suggest this phone is a POS, based purely on one bad experience, is seriously missing the forest for the trees.
Best phone I ever owned and will have it for a long time to come. So glad I bought this and not anything else.
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Completely agree with everything you stated.
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Question: Is it normal that Desire gets warm below battery? Because, it gets seriously warm after few seconds. Perhaps an overheating issue?
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It's either an overheating issue, or you are doing a lot of network intensive work. Because the radio is located below the battery. I also suspect that the processor is also located there.
Sent from my HTC Original Desire using Tapatalk
777ace said:
+1.
A groundbreaking phone when it was released and gave Apple a shake-up they are still yet to recover from.
Sorry to hear your device is having issues, but to suggest this phone is a POS, based purely on one bad experience, is seriously missing the forest for the trees.
Best phone I ever owned and will have it for a long time to come. So glad I bought this and not anything else.
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Totally agree with what you said. I have used my desire for a long time now and It's still one of the best phone I've ever encountered. So much that I've decided against getting sgs2 or even sensation. I will wait for quad core phones. LOL.
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So I requested pick up for repair. Fourth in three months....
In Germany you can request an new phone after 3 repair attempts ...
Dont know if its also in Slovakia but try it
I take I should ask new phone from HTC, right? Or from repair center?
Yes, you should definitely try that!
Not helping...
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Seems logically to the repair center for me..ask they
This applies to Slovakia also:
If they do not manage to repair within 30 days, you can request your money back.
If your phone gets broken 3 times (not sure if it should be the same problem) you can get your money back.
So found it, sorry for posting in slovak language:
V prípade, že má vec súčasne najmenej tri rôzne odstrániteľné chyby, pričom každá z nich bráni v riadnom užívaní, má spotrebiteľ právo rozhodnúť sa, či uplatní právo na výmenu tovaru alebo na vrátenie peňazí. To isté právo má aj vtedy, ak sa rovnaká chyba, aká bola najmenej dvakrát opravovaná, vyskytne tretíkrát v záručnej dobe.
So it has to be the same fault.
Anyway I would still try to get my money back, or a replacement phone.
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I had a few similar situations like yours. All of them happen when I was using a 3rd party battery. Maybe you want to ask the repair center to check the battery?
Is just a piece of hardware which will brake down.
Unfortunately you are unlucky and it happens often then to others (I'v send mine once for repair in 13 months).
If I was in your position, I would ask for new phone (as it broke so many times).
When you get a new one sell it on eBay, add couple hundreds $ and you have an upgrade .
Easy
Or if you really don't like it. Sell it and buy an iPhone ;-P
I couldn't wait to get the device the day it came out, i walked 5 miles to the nearest Three store the day before it came out only to be disappointed after they lied to me by phone telling me i could get it, but never mind, i pre-ordered it and got it the next day when the store opened,
like with all technology i was super excited to get home and play with my new technology, all was well
until i started noticing some pretty extreme overheating, it was so hot while playing games that the plastic on the back actually deformed due to heat, i thought it was just me, so without giving a damn i went to the Three store and got it replaced, no questions asked.
That was just a week after purchase, the new device wasn't overheating it was obviously just bad luck or so i thought...
during the past 2 months i started noticing more issues with the device, HTC says they are using Gorilla glass,
so nothing new here, my past 2 phones had it too, but obviously something is wrong... i first noticed a 5 mm hardly noticeable scratch on the top left end of the screen, i was sad, it's a phone that's suppose to last me 2 years, but yeah, nothing big, but now i'm noticing a hell of a lot of scratches on the screen, these aren't big scratches, they are so called "micro-scratches" but you can still see them if you are looking for them.
So
Overheating
Micro-scratches
pretty bad, but that's only the start...
last week while watching a YouTube video i noticed a white pixel on a black screen, probably something on me screen i thought but no...
turned out to be a dead pixel, tried the usual dead pixel repair stuff but no, nothing worked, i'm trying not to notice it but c'mon, it's so visible
once you know it's there, so frustrating, nothing i can do about it.
thought that was the worst thing, and quite possibly it is, but now i noticed a yellow tint spot on the bottom left of the screen, i thought the worst was with me but no, there was more to come.
so
Overheating
Micro-scratches
Dead pixel
Yellow tint spot
Pretty bad... but there's more...
Wi-Fi antenna connection fault, doesn't affect all but i got that too, it's a joke!, have my phone less than 2 feet away from the router yet i still get weak signal until i squeeze the phone (No this is not the damn iPhone 4 cellular signal fault for god sake)
So yeah...
Today i have these issues
Micro-scratches
Dead pixel
Yellow tint spot
Wi-Fi antenna fault
I'm tired of defending HTC, i loved my HTC Desire, and my HTC Desire HD, not a single problem with them,
but the fact that i had to swap my phone the week i got it, and now i have to put up with so many faults just because i unlocked my phone with your Dev site is a total unacceptable joke,
I was lucky to be one of few who's phones were suppose to be sent off to Taiwan for testing for that wi-fi issue,
that would mean i'd get a new HTC One X and all the faults would once again be gone, but HTC care manager Zoe N doesn't care any more...
it's been a week since she last replied to me, people on the phone won't let me speak to her either,
Can anything change the experience i had and make me forget it? defiantly not, unless i get a full refund and get to keep the phone.
I hope nobody else has to put up with so much crap from HTC.
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I spoke to HTC number of times about the issues, but i have a voided warranty and that's the end of it.
my only hope was Zoe, the HTC care manager, but she doesn't do much caring obviously.
Do i plan on keeping the HTC One X? hardly got a choice.
Link to the Wi-Fi connection fault thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27885540#post27885540
And this needed its own thread because? In case you're new, a number of phones sold have issues and none of what you posted is any different than what's been posted before. If you felt like venting you could have posted in one of the complaint threads. Based on the defect poll you have a 30+/-% chance of getting a phone that's not "perfect" however the people voting defined it. Looks like you drew the short straw.
There are thousands of people with One X's participating in this forum. If everyone posted their life story (good or bad) it would take up the entire front page (and more). Do what everyone else who has experienced a problem has done. Return or sell it, exchange it if you can, or send it in for repair. Those are pretty much your choices.
If you purchased it in the UK, you're protected by consumer law. You can't sign that away (by agreeing to when you unlocked the device), the WiFi and yellow spot are more than enough to get a repair.
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Hello everyone. First of all, I want to write a small disclaimer saying that I have already searched multiple forums in order to find specific answers to my questions, but haven't managed to find the answers I needed. Furthermore, I am a first-time user on XDA so I also wanted to say Helloooo!!!
Here's the story. Two-days ago I have purchased an HTC One X from Orange, so it's the Tegra 3 international version. I need to point out that this is my very first smartphone. I haven't owned one until now because I felt like all I needed was a small box to speak in. However, times change and I am finally living in the present .
Needless to say, I love this device. However, I have a few questions regarding the handset, and handsets in general.
- First, the temperature. I have searched forums and I have learned that some smartphones get hotter than other, and that it's a normal thing. However, since I am not used with a hot device in my hands (literally and figuratively) it got a bit scared and I have searched the web for answers. The thing is, I wasn't able to find what is the exact safe-zone for this specific device. Keep in mind that this is a Tegra 3 version, and from my understanding Tegras it gets hotter than Snapdragons. Also, I have noticed that on many threads and forums, people mix-up battery and CPU temperatures…I simply want a clear answer. I want to know the safe-zone for both the CPU and battery, separately.
As a side note, I don't really care if the device feels warm in my hands when running demanding apps and games (normally the device is quite cool). However I am afraid I will damage the device if I play heavy 3D games….I don't want that to happen.
I was also wondering whether or not it's safe to use the phone with a protective case on, like otterbox defender. Wouldn't that rubber make the temperatures even higher?
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- Second question: I ran StabilityTest because I got paranoid and I wanted to see if my device was stable. I ran the first CPU test (unrooted) for about 15 minutes and got no errors. However, I have noticed that on screen it said the cores run at 1,000 MHz…Wasn't this supposed to run at 1,5 Ghz?
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- Third. I have also learned yesterday evening that some HTC One X units have a screen ripple issue…I tested mine and indeed I have the same problem.
However, it slightly ripples mostly on the left side. The thing is, it doesn't bother me because it only ripples if I press the glass on its very edge, and I can't see a reason why I would do that when using the device normally. I admit, I haven't pressed too hard because I really like the device and I don't want to damage it.
So what I was wondering is this. Is it normal for every One X to get this ripple effect? I have searched an older thread somewhere, and opinions were mixed. People have said that as long as it doesn't affect the rest of the screen, it's normal. Others (probably those owning another device) claimed it's not normal and the owners should replace the device.
However, the thread was a few months old and I wanted to get some newer answers. Has HTC answered this issue? Is it or is it not normal? I mean, I know no ripples > some ripples, but still. Is it dangerous? Will the problem get worse with the passage of time?
The thing is, someone claimed they have returned the device only to get an even worse one…I am not bothered by how my display ripples. It's nothing annoying, so as long as everything remains the way it is, I see no reason to return the device.
Will it get worse in time…?
Also, is the HTC One X the very first device to experience this issue? If not, how did the situation developed for other handsets experiencing ripple issues?
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- Lastly, some people claimed that a certain update addressed a certain overheating issue. I am running software version 1.29.401.11 and it says I'm up to date (again, international version). Was this bug-fixing update released on the international version already, or am I running a version that overheats my device? Or, was this problem present on the international version to begin with?
Thank you so much for having the patience of reading my wall of text. I apologize if any information was already out there, I simply couldn't find the answers I needed. Well, I found some.
Regards,
Neevar.
i really want to thank you for asking these questions. many of my questions will be answered too. i am waiting for the latest batch coz i believe i will get a perfect HOX. my basic issue is battery life is short. dint you face any problem like that? or wifi problem?
anyways. i am using N900. it is the most hackable device. i do many hacking and testing with it. can all these be possible with HOX. i am sorry but HOX will be my first android device so i know very little about android.
1) is it possible to hack WEP and WPA (with dictionary) wifi network?
2) is there MDK3 for android?
3) dsniff, dnspoof, etc
4) MITM attack.
if i buy HOX i will really miss my N900 for all these. is it possible to use them in android?
muid02 said:
i really want to thank you for asking these questions. many of my questions will be answered too. i am waiting for the latest batch coz i believe i will get a perfect HOX. my basic issue is battery life is short. dint you face any problem like that? or wifi problem?
anyways. i am using N900. it is the most hackable device. i do many hacking and testing with it. can all these be possible with HOX. i am sorry but HOX will be my first android device so i know very little about android.
1) is it possible to hack WEP and WPA (with dictionary) wifi network?
2) is there MDK3 for android?
3) dsniff, dnspoof, etc
4) MITM attack.
if i buy HOX i will really miss my N900 for all these. is it possible to use them in android?
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First of all, thanks for arranging all these questions in nice manner.
I'll surely keep track of this thread, as I'm also having similar doubts, which are not yet clear even after reading many threads and posting threads....
Looking forward to buy a new HOX here, preferebly from latest batches....
And a kind request to members those who are replying;
kindly give an unbiased opinon, and pls dont mix up any other issues...
muid02:- buddy, Please read what the thread is for....dont mix up unnecessay issues here, like your N900, adroid and other stupid stuffs...If you want clarification in those issues, start a new thread....
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Hello everyone. First of all, I want to write a small disclaimer saying that I have already searched multiple forums in order to find specific answers to my questions, but haven't managed to find the answers I needed. Furthermore, I am a first-time user on XDA so I also wanted to say Helloooo!!!
Here's the story. Two-days ago I have purchased an HTC One X from Orange, so it's the Tegra 3 international version. I need to point out that this is my very first smartphone. I haven't owned one until now because I felt like all I needed was a small box to speak in. However, times change and I am finally living in the present .
Needless to say, I love this device. However, I have a few questions regarding the handset, and handsets in general.
- First, the temperature. I have searched forums and I have learned that some smartphones get hotter than other, and that it's a normal thing. However, since I am not used with a hot device in my hands (literally and figuratively) it got a bit scared and I have searched the web for answers. The thing is, I wasn't able to find what is the exact safe-zone for this specific device. Keep in mind that this is a Tegra 3 version, and from my understanding Tegras it gets hotter than Snapdragons. Also, I have noticed that on many threads and forums, people mix-up battery and CPU temperatures…I simply want a clear answer. I want to know the safe-zone for both the CPU and battery, separately.
As a side note, I don't really care if the device feels warm in my hands when running demanding apps and games (normally the device is quite cool). However I am afraid I will damage the device if I play heavy 3D games….I don't want that to happen.
I was also wondering whether or not it's safe to use the phone with a protective case on, like otterbox defender. Wouldn't that rubber make the temperatures even higher?
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- Second question: I ran StabilityTest because I got paranoid and I wanted to see if my device was stable. I ran the first CPU test (unrooted) for about 15 minutes and got no errors. However, I have noticed that on screen it said the cores run at 1,000 MHz…Wasn't this supposed to run at 1,5 Ghz?
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- Third. I have also learned yesterday evening that some HTC One X units have a screen ripple issue…I tested mine and indeed I have the same problem.
However, it slightly ripples mostly on the left side. The thing is, it doesn't bother me because it only ripples if I press the glass on its very edge, and I can't see a reason why I would do that when using the device normally. I admit, I haven't pressed too hard because I really like the device and I don't want to damage it.
So what I was wondering is this. Is it normal for every One X to get this ripple effect? I have searched an older thread somewhere, and opinions were mixed. People have said that as long as it doesn't affect the rest of the screen, it's normal. Others (probably those owning another device) claimed it's not normal and the owners should replace the device.
However, the thread was a few months old and I wanted to get some newer answers. Has HTC answered this issue? Is it or is it not normal? I mean, I know no ripples > some ripples, but still. Is it dangerous? Will the problem get worse with the passage of time?
The thing is, someone claimed they have returned the device only to get an even worse one…I am not bothered by how my display ripples. It's nothing annoying, so as long as everything remains the way it is, I see no reason to return the device.
Will it get worse in time…?
Also, is the HTC One X the very first device to experience this issue? If not, how did the situation developed for other handsets experiencing ripple issues?
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- Lastly, some people claimed that a certain update addressed a certain overheating issue. I am running software version 1.29.401.11 and it says I'm up to date (again, international version). Was this bug-fixing update released on the international version already, or am I running a version that overheats my device? Or, was this problem present on the international version to begin with?
Thank you so much for having the patience of reading my wall of text. I apologize if any information was already out there, I simply couldn't find the answers I needed. Well, I found some.
Regards,
Neevar.
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Temperature - it does get hot. A lot of people say don't play games whilst charging the device, as it will get hotter.
I personally don't believe in this. The phone should have safeguards (similar to a PC) to specifically stop it overheating - infact it does, when it gets too hot, it stops charging. If it overheats and dies (which is a big if, i've certainly not heard of anyones hox dying from overheating), then this would be covered under warranty anyway. Which I believe is 2 years. It would be reallllly stupid for HTC not to test for heat issues before release. I'm sure they had a fleet of devices all running stress tests just to make sure they didn't melt.
I don't know the 'safe zones' all i know is that HTC confirmed that reaching a temperature of 55c is normal and nothing to worry about. I have since read of people reaching higher temps (72c) but I don't think even that had any adverse effects
The CPU underclocks itself for power saving. This is a separate feature from the companion core. This can be modified, you have to create a shortcut (easiest way is to use minimalistictext, and create a widget, that on tap will open the power saving settings shortcut.) It does run at 1500 however. You haven't been conned at least
Most hox's i've had (6 in total) had the screen ripple, the general rule on whether it is normal or not - if you have to push really hard to get it to ripple, then it's fine. It's only when it ripples on a very gentle touch that you might want to get it replaced/repaired. (a gentle touch does fall into normal use, and this ripple imo shouldn't happen under normal use.)
Do be sure that if you send back the device, that it IS a hardware problem, and that it is a bad enough issue to warrant possibly getting another, but worse problem. Note that I've been through 6 hoxs, each one of them with different (and some of the same) problems. The 6th one, is also defective, and is due to be replaced soon.
I don't believe the HOX is the first device to suffer from screen ripple. My DHD did it. The difference was i had to push unbelieveably hard to make it happen the slightest bit. So clearly there is some sort of design flaw here, particularly on those hoxs that just need a slight touch for it to happen.
Regarding the update that addresses overheating, somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but i think thats the 2.05 update, which hasn't been officially released yet, only leaked. You can install a custom rom with the 2.05 base, but otherwise just be patient and we shall soon have the update OTA.
Hope this helps
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Thank you so much for the detailed reply Lawrence. Your feedback really cleared some things in my mind.
Regarding the temperature, I have never seen the LEDs go red or anything like that. It just feels warm, that's all. I just checked the temperatures and right now while idling it shows 39 degrees, but considering the fact that my room temperature is around 33 degrees, I suppose that's a good value (yeah, AC broke, I run a big fan in my face lol). While playing GTA 3 for about 30 minutes last night the temps reached 50 degrees. I have seen older posts claiming that 50 degrees is really bad, but those posts were after or even before the handset launched in certain regions, and most people claiming this were comparing the One X with their own handset. Now that you've said HTC confirmed that 55 is a normal temperature, I think mine performs quite well to be honest...
Note* I haven't played while charging.
About the screen ripple. It doesn't happen on normal use. but if I focus in holding my fingernail on the very edge of the screen and drag it from top to bottom, i do see faint ripples. as I've said, it doesn't bother me as long as it won't get worse... do you have any idea if it can get worse somehow with the passage of time?
I am rather afraid to replace it since yes, I might end up with an even worse unit... so, for me at least it all depends on whether or not the ripples can get worse or if it can damage my display in time. I really don't know what to do here...I certainly don't want to replace my phone for more than one time...
Since you already replaced your HTC One X 5 times now, can you tell me how the process works? Will they replace my phone at the Orange store or do they need to check on it for a frikin week before deciding to give me another?...
Regarding the update, if it's not out then I'll just wait. Considering the fact that according to HTC my temps are in check, and considering the fact that I never got a warning and / or reboot, I should be safe, I hope.
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Thank you so much for the detailed reply Lawrence. Your feedback really cleared some things in my mind.
Regarding the temperature, I have never seen the LEDs go red or anything like that. It just feels warm, that's all. I just checked the temperatures and right now while idling it shows 39 degrees, but considering the fact that my room temperature is around 33 degrees, I suppose that's a good value (yeah, AC broke, I run a big fan in my face lol). While playing GTA 3 for about 30 minutes last night the temps reached 50 degrees. I have seen older posts claiming that 50 degrees is really bad, but those posts were after or even before the handset launched in certain regions, and most people claiming this were comparing the One X with their own handset. Now that you've said HTC confirmed that 55 is a normal temperature, I think mine performs quite well to be honest...
Note* I haven't played while charging.
About the screen ripple. It doesn't happen on normal use. but if I focus in holding my fingernail on the very edge of the screen and drag it from top to bottom, i do see faint ripples. as I've said, it doesn't bother me as long as it won't get worse... do you have any idea if it can get worse somehow with the passage of time?
I am rather afraid to replace it since yes, I might end up with an even worse unit... so, for me at least it all depends on whether or not the ripples can get worse or if it can damage my display in time. I really don't know what to do here...I certainly don't want to replace my phone for more than one time...
Since you already replaced your HTC One X 5 times now, can you tell me how the process works? Will they replace my phone at the Orange store or do they need to check on it for a frikin week before deciding to give me another?...
Regarding the update, if it's not out then I'll just wait. Considering the fact that according to HTC my temps are in check, and considering the fact that I never got a warning and / or reboot, I should be safe, I hope.
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I don't think the ripple gets worse over time, I can't say for sure really because I haven't had one long enough to see, however I can say that it does appear to be the way they are assembled that causes the issue, and its that that defines how bad the ripple is, rather than it getting worse over time.
My most recent hox, didnt have very bad ripple, and now after 'repair' it does, and also has a dead pixel in a different place. I suspect they actually replaced the screen, and it so happens that this screen has bad ripple. The other one didn't.
If I could find out for definite what they did it would kinda confirm whether the ripple gets worse over time or not, but they didn't log anything about the repair (tracking site never updated) and HTC can't tell me anything other about it than 'we're still waiting for it in repair center'
The replacement process (this applies to UK):
Sales of goods act states that if there is a fault with the device, in the first 6 months after purchase, it is the retailers responsibility to repair, replace, or refund the purchase, unless the retailer can prove that you caused the fault yourself.
If the repair option is chosen, then this mustn't significantly inconvenience the buyer. IE if they send it back unrepaired, they don't really have a choice from then, other than to replace it or refund you.
However there is also a cooling off period.
http://whatconsumer.co.uk/cooling-off-and-cancellations/
Depending on whether you bought the phone from an Orange shop (from actually within the shop) or bought it via internet/phone/mail, it differs slightly.
I'm pretty sure you don't actually
If you bought it online, or by phone, but not in the shop, then you will have a 7 day cooling off period, from the conclusion of the contract
If the service was activated before the 7 day cooling off period, then you have given up the right to a cooling off period, but this must have been clearly communicated and with your agreement.
Orange must also send you written confirmation of the contract and any other additional information applicable. If this doesn't arrive within the 7 days, but before 3 months after purchase, then the cooling off period doesn't start until these confirmations have arrived.
Assuming you're out of this 7 day period, and also assuming that you haven't accepted the goods yet(see below) then you can reject the goods if they aren't as described, fit for purpose, or aren't of satisfactory quality.
Customers are considered to have accepted goods when they:
tell you they have accepted them
alter them
keep them for a reasonable length of time - this varies according to the nature of the goods
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I'm just looking for the cooling off period when bought in a shop, but my head hurts lol, if you do a bit of searching on google should come up fairly easily
Even if there isn't a cooling off period, which you don't need a reason to cancel, then you can reject the goods as mentioned above, on the basis they aren't of satisfactory quality, and in this instance orange will possibly replace, but they aren't obliged to at this point. Appeal to their goodwill, but they may well insist on sending it for repair.
I have read before than if CPU ran at 80 + degree every time then it can last for 2 years , so no worries about heat guys. The money which we have paid is worth.
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I have read before than if CPU ran at 80 + degree every time then it can last for 2 years , so no worries about heat guys. The money which we have paid is worth.
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But can the adjacent components withstand that heat emitting from the CPU?
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But can the adjacent components withstand that heat emitting from the CPU?
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they use the foil layer to spread the heat over the device, so yes i expect that any nearby components would be fine.
I'm starting to get pissed off.
I got in touch with an HTC technical agent via their online form, and I have received an email where the agent told me that the battery temperature should not go over 50 degrees Celsius. If that happens, then he advised me to return the phone immediately.
He also said that ripples are not normal and once again, I should return the phone.
So I ran Glowball for about 20 minutes and my battery has gone up to 61 degrees Celsius....
I decided to take my phone back to the store where I have bought it. Those dudes raised their shoulders and told me to go to the company that deals with warranties in order to get a paper, then return to them.
I asked them if I can cancel my contract and get a refund, but no, apparently it too much time has passed since I made the purchase.
I have called the company and a clueless lady answered then cut me off mid-sentence when I started talking about technical stuff. She was clearly clueless but asked me if I have been at the store with my phone...derp...
Then she told me that I should go there on monday and see what's what....
What an incompetent way of doing things. I am 99% certain that I won't go anywhere with these monkeys, either that or I'll waste at least a whole month trying to get a hold of a HOX that works as intended.
This being my very first smartphone, I am very disappointed and I'm fearful I have just got myself a two year contract with a carrier, for a phone that doesn't work and with which I'll probably stuck with because of these idiots.
And by the way, why hasn't HTC recalled or announced every carrier and company that deals with warranties that every phone that has ripple and overheat issues need to be recalled and replaced as soon as someone like me shows up in their store with a faulty device in their hands???
htc one x cpu and battery
Hi,
I have the following problem:
I have a HTC One X and have the BinDroid 5.0.0 Rome installiert.Der battery goes down quickly and the system hangs, no matter what I want ... the problem was with Coredroid V4.0 and BinDroid 4.0.0 already ... Not even in Whatsapp I can write without it hangs and the battery will not work correctly if it depends on the charger as soon as I use some program ... no matter what, whether whatsapp or other app's ... in the car when it depends on the charger, it produces the error message "Unable to load, the unit will be more current than the charger can charge" <- something like that ^ ^
now my question: it may be that generally run all CPUs instead of one CPU and the other can be switched on when it is necessary, as it should be normal, according to HTC?
What can or should I do that my HTc one x fluent running again?
Am very satisfied with BinDroid and in my opinion is the best ROM for the HTC One X
Dear all ....
i have always been a HTC phone fan since day one i own my first HTC Legend then down to incredible S and to this One X... among all, the worst i had experience was the One X. I have it exchange for 3 time already in 6 month times and seeing the 4th unit coming the way. No doubt HTC Malaysia has done a good job by keep on replacing a brand new out off the box unit for me but it does not really solve my problem and my bad experience on the One X at all .
1st unit - Wifi issue, have to press the right top part of the screen in order to get full Wifi Signal eventho i'm sitting next to a router
2nd unit - Random system restart , very often drop call with a message saying preparing sim card , battery can only last you like 5 hours but on any other day it preforming very good , phone auto turn off indicating battery low eventho it clearly said remaining 20% to 40% battery life
3th unit ( current unit ) Drop call with preparing sim card message randomly will come out on the screen , Wifi issue , same problem with above have to press the right top of the screen in order to get good Wifi signal , out of the box the screen have a small patch around the size of 1 to 2 mm of something similar to dead pixel but it does not look like one
i love the One X a lot .. but with all this problem keep on coming i was thinking is it time i should have give up on this particular model and move on with some other phone ? is there anyone which is used to be or still a One X user care to share me what you think about the Samsung Galaxy Nexus ? was it a good phone to try out ?
Else I'm afraid that if i got my 4th sets replacement i might have encounter some other problematic symptom again. Is it wise for me to write to HTC to complain ? would it help at all ?
Thanks for your advice
Gnex is a step down imo. Inferior screen, worse camera, etc etc only good thing about it is that it will receive updates quicker than anyone else due to it being a Nexus phone!
Keep trying until you get a fully working unit. There is nothing at the moment that tops the HOX apart from the SGS3 which is just as good.
i went through 6 of them. on my 7th, its finally working now. thank the lord
im glad i waited until i got a working one. i love this phone, was totally worth holding out.
now everything works properly it is simply brilliant! wifi is fantastic, i was walking down the road, and about 100m from my house, the wifi connected! with a weak signal admittedly, but it was still connected!
my old dhd would disconnect as soon as i walk out the door...
trust me, keep replacing until you get a good one. even the iphone 5 released 5 months after hox is inferior spec-wise
Wow and i taught that i was the only person that keep on swapping until you came alone ! ! will take your advice for it
lawrence750 said:
i went through 6 of them. on my 7th, its finally working now. thank the lord
im glad i waited until i got a working one. i love this phone, was totally worth holding out.
now everything works properly it is simply brilliant! wifi is fantastic, i was walking down the road, and about 100m from my house, the wifi connected! with a weak signal admittedly, but it was still connected!
my old dhd would disconnect as soon as i walk out the door...
trust me, keep replacing until you get a good one. even the iphone 5 released 5 months after hox is inferior spec-wise
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Dear all ....
i have always been a HTC phone fan since day one i own my first HTC Legend then down to incredible S and to this One X... among all, the worst i had experience was the One X. I have it exchange for 3 time already in 6 month times and seeing the 4th unit coming the way. No doubt HTC Malaysia has done a good job by keep on replacing a brand new out off the box unit for me but it does not really solve my problem and my bad experience on the One X at all .
1st unit - Wifi issue, have to press the right top part of the screen in order to get full Wifi Signal eventho i'm sitting next to a router
Thanks for your advice
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Ya, I know how you feel, I've got the same wifi isue, Problem is, I bought my phone
in another country so, I can't swap it like you guys
HTC really disspointed me with this problem. I've contected they're support and they
say I can ship it to them for fix for 30euros. (and wait 6-7 weeks!!)
after the HOX I think I'm done with HTC.
Actually i had the same issue with you ... i got mine from another country as well but lucky i can get someone to send it back for me every 1 or 2 month times
Doorman404 said:
Ya, I know how you feel, I've got the same wifi isue, Problem is, I bought my phone
in another country so, I can't swap it like you guys
HTC really disspointed me with this problem. I've contected they're support and they
say I can ship it to them for fix for 30euros. (and wait 6-7 weeks!!)
after the HOX I think I'm done with HTC.
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Whatever you do, don't go for the galaxy nexus. I'm a bit surprised another issue seems to have appeared that's to do with my screen.
A friend of mine has a galaxy nexus, yes it's actually not that bad to be honest. But battery life is very bad.
I'd honestly wait or pick one of those (if you really want a phone now)
One X (so basically keep on trying and hope for the best) / Galaxy S 3/ Nokia lumia 920 (if you're willing to try a new os, probably nokia is best to choose from on windows) / wait for something better to come out (?)
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Whatever you do, don't go for the galaxy nexus. I'm a bit surprised another issue seems to have appeared that's to do with my screen.
A friend of mine has a galaxy nexus, yes it's actually not that bad to be honest. But battery life is very bad.
I'd honestly wait or pick one of those (if you really want a phone now)
One X (so basically keep on trying and hope for the best) / Galaxy S 3/ Nokia lumia 920 (if you're willing to try a new os, probably nokia is best to choose from on windows) / wait for something better to come out (?)
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Actually I was thinking of selling my one x and getting the nexus.
The battery is bad enough the hox, how much worse can it be on
the nexus? (and I read mostly on Black Screens)
oh, You forgot about Motorola, and it's mighty Razr HD Maxx!
BTW, I've just asked a local phone shop to fix my hox,
they want 80-90$ for this! This sucks.
Hey evryone ... first soz , for my bad english , and second i'm here to ask you smth ...
I have a HTC ONE X i got from friend.. and now my touch work all , but mid dont respond... maybe cuz its bad put upadate ... cuz its 4.2.2 here... and main of this phone its 4.1..2 , i will post my picture and u will se... and PLS HELP : / and sorry for english , if u dont understend any of worlds , i will use google tran...
mariorazer said:
Hey evryone ... first soz , for my bad english , and second i'm here to ask you smth ...
I have a HTC ONE X i got from friend.. and now my touch work all , but mid dont respond... maybe cuz its bad put upadate ... cuz its 4.2.2 here... and main of this phone its 4.1..2 , i will post my picture and u will se... and PLS HELP : / and sorry for english , if u dont understend any of worlds , i will use google tran...
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Just so you know, HTC is a garbage company that creates good looking phones but which appear durable only on the outside.
I had an One S and after 2 months of usage The touchscreen "gave birth" of a dead spot right in the middle. It was a 1cm thick vertical line. So the phone became useless.I spend a ton of money on an "original" display+glass+digitizer (an assembly) cause I didn't choose a warranty when I bought the device, cause it was cheaper that way. after 1 month and a half month, a dead spot appeared on the new screen. This time it was a horizontal line that gave me a hard time again. I donnated the phone to some guy. I decided to buy a new HTC, but this time a ONE X. After 4 months another dead spot appeared on the touchscreen and again that area was unresponsive. I decided not to send it into warranty cause it was already enough and it's not worth it, so I sold it at a considerably lower price because of that problem. The Ironic thing is that I always tooks so much care of both devices and it still broke. If you keep using HTC, you'll only shorten your life.
I'm now a bit short on money and I'm using a pathetic Galaxy Ace 2. If you wanted right now to exchange a brand new ONE X with my Ace 2, I wouldn't make the exchange and I'd stick with the phone I have right now. Or I'd make the exchange only to sell the HTC, cause it's more expensive than the Ace 2 and after that I'd buy a Nexus 4 or a Galaxy S3, with the money I'd get from the HTC. That's how bad I hate HTC. What seems to be awesome, it's actually something that breaks with the slightest touch. Samsung, which everytime comes with the same hideous design every year, is 10 times more durable than an HTC, and also is a lot easier to root and downgrade if something goes wrong during some process.
So, my personal opinion, try to choose anything else but HTC. Otherwise you're gonna experience all sorts of problems with it even if you decide to replace the screen. When you fix a problem, another one will come out and make you be stressed. IT'S NOT WORTH IT, believe me.
Every one has there personal views of the devices they use.. I've had my One X from since it came out and it has never given me trouble.. I've never came across with the issues you are claiming.. neither my friends that use them. I have to upgrade to a new phone eventually but not because of the phone dying, but because it's just natural to upgrade to a newer better phone. I've used sammies before but have never ever come close to my comparison with the One X. I love HTC products and that remains no matter what..to the OP, your problem seems can be solved with a new screen..
How is that practical advice...uncalled for. Try a reverting phone to stock, if that doesn't help then it is a hardware fault and start looking into repair.
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