So I see lots of threads/posts about PenTile. Found this to be interesting, sharing it. It's mainly in regards to Samsung Galaxy S3 but as we know, Galaxy Nexus uses PenTile as well. So it would apply for our phones as well.
Samsung's Philip Berne explained to me that the blue subpixels on AMOLED displays actually degrade the fastest - quicker than the red or green subpixels. With a PenTile layout, the subpixels are arranged RGBG (red, green, blue, green), so they feature more green subpixels and fewer red or blue subpixels than an RGB stripe layout with the same resolution. Because of this, AMOLED displays that have the PenTile layout tend to have a longer lifespan than those with RGB layouts. Since Samsung is selling its phones to users that usually keep them for 18 months or longer, it has to be sure that the display will still offer peak performance at that time. According to the company, PenTile AMOLED displays have proven to be more reliable than those with RGB layouts.
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Source: http://www.mobileburn.com/19548/new...ed-displays-last-longer-thats-why-we-use-them
Thanks. Saw a few links to this. I don't really see what the issue is with PenTile. In normal use, its next to impossibile to see.
I think what people have bigger issues with are banding/discoloring/streaking, not necessarily the PenTile arrangement. Its just a nice 1-word "catch all" for not liking a display.
Motorola gave PenTile a bad name using rbgw arrangements. Now everyone assumes they will get screendoor effects.
adrynalyne said:
Motorola gave PenTile a bad name using rbgw arrangements. Noe everyone assumes they will get screendoor effects.
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The RAZR coming out ~same time as the Nexus with that god-awful display definitely gave a negative connotation to "PenTile".
Pentile was somewhat noticeable on the first SAMOLED display that they had in the SGS lineup, but only when it was text on a solid background. With SAMOLED HD, the pixel density is so high that I have yet to be able to see a jagged edge on text anywhere. I wonder what people would think if Apple used a Pentile matrix on an iProduct. Probably be the best thing in display technology rather than the most hated if it happened.
I love my galaxy nexus and my friend got a htc one x and it does look really good but I prefer my nexus maybe cause I like dark colors
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Yeah I agree with Motorola giving PenTile a bad name. When I first saw the Galaxy Nexus screen, I didn't even notice any differences. I don't know the technical terms on why it's different but compared to my previous phones, Nexus S / Galaxy S1 (Vibrant).. I don't really see any difference, in fact the GN looks even better but that might just be Super AMOLED HD. But whatever it is, it looks amazing.
The people criticizing about PenTile without even looking at the phone or trying it for a week or two need to re-evaluate themselves.
Ya, but Samsung still has not found a good enough manufacturing process to make regular "Super AMOLED+ HD" Screens at 4.6inch+ (hence the pen tile). That's why the screen's pen tile.
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I wonder what people would think if Apple used a Pentile matrix on an iProduct. Probably be the best thing in display technology rather than the most hated if it happened.
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Hopefully apple wont make a mistake like that.
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Hopefully apple wont make a mistake like that.
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I doubt apple would I still remember that first iphone and the screen was amazing phone kind of suck tho
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Y'know, I always thought that PenTile would bother me too much to ever use a phone. I'd seen some devices that used older or low-end versions of it, and they looked terrible.
I was apprehensive at best of getting the Galaxy Nexus. PenTile and the lack of an SD card slot bothered me, to say the least. Over time, I've grown to love the phone. Much of that is because while there are some issues with the PenTile display, such as some banding and purplish greys at very low or lowest brightness settings, these issues aren't noticed even at a slightly raised brightness settings. Otherwise, the display is one of the best performing displays I've ever had the pleasure of using. The colors are bright and vibrant, the blacks are black, there are no light bleeds common with backlit displays and the outdoor performance, while not the best, is still excellent.
Super AMOLED HD isn't perfect, but it's certainly a good step forward in the evolution of display technology.
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Didn't you know? Apple never makes mistakes
When I was looking at new phones, Pentile bugged the hell out of me every time I saw it. I swore I'd never buy a phone that used it. After Google started selling the Galaxy Nexus, I took a look at the VZW model just for kicks, and I honestly couldn't tell the difference unless I held it point-blank.
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I love my galaxy nexus and my friend got a htc one x and it does look really good but I prefer my nexus maybe cause I like dark colors
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Owning both devices, I actually prefer the one X screen over the nexus. Not by
a drastic margin though. Pentile displays are pretty atrocious on smaller resolution
screens (qhD or below).
It's a non-issue on the nexus.
I can tell occasionally but the high Res far outweighs the small nuance of seeing it in certain situations and being HD it still looks great. :thumbup::thumbup: for HD rgbg pen tile.
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I thought the issues of the blue sub-pixels degrading faster than the red and green ones had been, basically, sorted - at least in as much that the degradation, whilst still faster than the other sub-pixels, was now slow enough that it was not particularly perceptible over the lifespan of the device (at least for the likes of phones, which are replaced much quicker than most consumer electronics devices).
I mean, according to Wikipedia the typical time for blue sub-pixels to degrade to half their original brightness is 14,000 hours - or 8 hours a day for 5 years.
Now I don't know about the rest of you but I don't have my handset's screen on for anywhere near 8 hours a day nor do I expect to still be using it in 5 years time.
And on top of that, it talks about 'experimental' blue OLED panels which can sustain 400 cd/m2 for over 62,000 hours - and that was in 2007.
Smokeey said:
Ya, but Samsung still has not found a good enough manufacturing process to make regular "Super AMOLED+ HD" Screens at 4.6inch+ (hence the pen tile). That's why the screen's pen tile.
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Wrong. Galaxy tab 7.7 . If Samsung put samoled HD plus in sgs3 the price for the phone would be too damn high and the difference between screens quality is not that big as people who haven't even used it or used sgs1 with small resolution are trying to tell.
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Wrong. Galaxy tab 7.7 . If Samsung put samoled HD plus in sgs3 the price for the phone would be too damn high and the difference between screens quality is not that big as people who haven't even used it or used sgs1 with small resolution are trying to tell.
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The Galaxy Tab 7.7 is using a SAMOLED+ screen that is ~7". It is not a SAMOLED HD screen despite having an HD resolution. At least they do not advertise it as SAMOLED HD, it is listed as an HD resolution SAMOLED+ display.
When the g nex first came out all I say was the horrible screen. So I bought the t mo gs2 which had the ugliest screen resolution ever so I got a nexus. The screen on the phone is awesome dark blacks deep colors this is a great screen. The super LCD 2 is nice but I prefer this
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Wrong. Galaxy tab 7.7 . If Samsung put samoled HD plus in sgs3 the price for the phone would be too damn high and the difference between screens quality is not that big as people who haven't even used it or used sgs1 with small resolution are trying to tell.
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Bingo. I think Samsung is just trying to get the most value out of their current process-level.
The panel in my (oft mentioned) ET4G SGS2 is roughly the same exact dimensions as the GNex screen....though if you multiply 800x640x12 (subpixels) you come up with the same exact number you would if you multiplied 1280x720x5 .....and that 5 is where the damning "Pentile" moniker comes from.
So, that means these two (oft compared) panels have the same amount of subpixels arranged in the same amount of space in a slightly (or vastly, depending on how you looked at it) configuration.
So, for solid colors--aside from calibration differences and luminance (brightness) differences--the panels are effectively identical. I know I simplified a lot of the dynamics away with those qualifications, but, in this scenario we have the same amount of subpixels in the same exact density making the same exact color...
Before I decided to swap up to the GNex I marched down to the Sprint store and did the nerdiest side-by-side comparison I could and there wasn't a single moment where I had any question which screen I'd rather be looking at all the time....It's the GNex. The only thing I noticed was that it wasn't as cornea scarringly bright....big deal....after 30 seconds of screen-on maxed out the SGS2 screen turns itself down to prevent damage or something.....and then it's dimmer than the GNex anyway.
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Apple is anal. They do alot more testing than Samsung because people will actually use + buy there phones well past its 18 month life span.
Related
sorry if this has been posted elsewhere if so please remove mods
http://androidheadlines.com/2010/06/htc-switch-to-stft-lcd-from-amoled-due-to-shortages.html
this could be a rumour but if true, I'm going to be a lot more careful with my desire.
I heard this as well. How will this affect battery life and do they look anywhere near as good?
LCDs these days are almost as good as AMOLED. Note that I said almost. I don't think anything can compare to an AMOLED or SuperAMOLED in regular inside environments, but when you get outside and the sun is shining, it's almost as if the screen isn't on. I have to put the brightness all of the way up to see the screen. LCDs don't have that problem. So If you don't know which you have in a new phone, you probably wont be able to tell unless you're outside! muahaha.
Hmm. I'm glad I already have the Desire...
As far as I know, AMOLED gives better viewing angles, has better colors and is better for battery life (which is a pain on Android phones).
Also, an AMOLED is better than LCD for showing true black or darker shades due to the lack of a backlight which is in LCD screens
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Maybe this will finally prevent the pinkish issue on some HTC AMOLED devices.
Well, Sony's TFTs shouldn't have PenTile, which should make text sharper and really ought to get rid of the pink tint. It's a trade-off; personally I'd rather have TFT with RGB subpixels, but it seems to be a minority opinion.
according to engadget, they say the Iphone 4 screen is better then the Galaxy S Super ALMOLED.
Even though I hate Iphone I must admit, the screen does look good.
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according to engadget, they say the Iphone 4 screen is better then the Galaxy S Super ALMOLED.
Even though I hate Iphone I must admit, the screen does look good.
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The screen could be good, but i don't understand why apple did't made the screen bigger.
Iphone 4 screen is awesome, nice colours & perfectly viewable from a variety of angles. Pin sharp & very very clear. But its a bit too small for my liking.
Doesn't the iphone use ips technology or is that the same as super lcd (because this is the first time i hear of super lcd)
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Well, Sony's TFTs shouldn't have PenTile, which should make text sharper and really ought to get rid of the pink tint. It's a trade-off; personally I'd rather have TFT with RGB subpixels, but it seems to be a minority opinion.
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Agree 100% (love AMOLED, but hate PenTile). If someone ever offer me to change my Desire to normal LCD Desire i would be over the moon. I hope HTC will make ones. Maybe, just one for me
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according to engadget, they say the Iphone 4 screen is better then the Galaxy S Super ALMOLED.
Even though I hate Iphone I must admit, the screen does look good.
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What the Engadget article really showed was that in NORMAL use there was no discernible advantage to the iPhone 4 screen.
Being the Apple shills that they are they resorted to the retarded microscope comparisons. IF you have to show what the pixels look like under a microscope to get what the difference is then there's no difference.
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1319022037
that is a very technical yet interesting read.
This has been discussed to the death in the Galaxy S days.
Galaxy S and Nexus S has the same tech in it.
I think they looked fine.
If you have to calculate the pixel density like this, what does the Nexus S has with it's 4" 800x480 display? 150ppi?
Looks interesting will have to see one for real now hopefully soon
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This has been discussed to the death in the Galaxy S days.
Galaxy S and Nexus S has the same tech in it.
I think they looked fine.
If you have to calculate the pixel density like this, what does the Nexus S has with it's 4" 800x480 display? 150ppi?
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The PentTile AMOLED displays look great with pictures, video, etc, especially with the excellent black levels. However, for text it's not so good. I have a Galaxy S and the PenTile display looks really bad at times. Text looks tinted, and red text on black or just red on dark backgrounds in general? It looks like it's hovering above the display, horrible...
Sure, the GN has a smaller screen than the Galaxy Note and therefore a higher DPI, but I'm not so sure it's enough to hide the weaknesses of a PenTile display.
Hopefully someone will get their hands on one for a proper test of the display.
Hey look! Another AMOLED display and another site found out about PenTile RGBG vs. RGB or "Real Stripe"!
Hardly something new, that's been around since the first Nexus One and they don't break with tradition. Nexus One, Nexus S and now the Galaxy Nexus, all have a PenTile matrix.
Yes, PenTile RGBG matrix offers less sub pixels and still PPI and resolution are based on "pixels". That might not be ideal and there will always be PenTile haters counting sub pixels one by one. But unless Samsung can produce 300+ PPI AMOLED displays with their "real stripe" method it's either PenTile or LCD.
Some good information here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5000/galaxy-nexus-pentile-discussion-confirmed
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Some good information here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5000/galaxy-nexus-pentile-discussion-confirmed
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Hmm, so it still fares better than the galaxy s2.
Check this out guys. Note can be same as Galaxy Nexus.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...D---is-the-PenTile-matrix-bad-for-you_id23134
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-GALAXY-Nexus-to-have-PenTile-panel_id23165
this poor dead horse keep getting a beating here...
This is so overblown. It isn't exactly something new. Pentile Matrix has been around for a couple years. Most of the people don't notice **** about it.
Phones with pentile matrix tech:
Nexus One
Nexus S
Galaxy S family
Galaxy Note
Galaxy Nexus
Samsung Focus
Samsung Omnia 7
HTC Desire
HTC Droid Incredible
HTC Legend
Dell Venue Pro
Nokia N8
Nokia N85
Nokia N86 8MP
Samsung Transform
Motorola Droid RAZR (It doesn't mention the "plus" so it should be pentile)
and more...
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This is so overblown. It isn't exactly something new. Pentile Matrix has been around for a couple years. Most of the people don't notice **** about it.
Phones with pentile matrix tech:
Nexus One
Nexus S
Galaxy S family
Galaxy Note
Galaxy Nexus
Samsung Focus
Samsung Omnia 7
HTC Desire
HTC Droid Incredible
HTC Legend
Dell Venue Pro
Nokia N8
Nokia N85
Nokia N86 8MP
Samsung Transform
Motorola Droid RAZR (It doesn't mention the "plus" so it should be pentile)
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the nokia phones do not have the pentile matrix displays, nokia orders samsung oled screens with true RGB subpixel layout. however nokia struck that deal, likely paying more per screen (?), is a mystery because even samsung themselves who make the screens use pentile thru the years...while nokia got the true RGB OLED screens.
this includes nokia n8, n85, do not have pentile.
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the nokia phones do not have the pentile matrix displays, nokia orders samsung oled screens with true RGB subpixel layout. however nokia struck that deal, likely paying more per screen (?), is a mystery because even samsung themselves who make the screens use pentile thru the years...while nokia got the true RGB OLED screens.
this includes nokia n8, n85, do not have pentile.
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Thanks I didn't know that.
I thought all AMOLED use pentile except SAMOLED+.
I just searched the wiki for phones with AMOLED screen.
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Then give us a ****ing LCD. I'm tired of this bull **** Pentile matrix crap on my N1.
You'd rather have an LCD than a SAMOLED?
Forgive me, but lawwwwwwwl.
SomeGuyDude said:
You'd rather have an LCD than a SAMOLED?
Forgive me, but lawwwwwwwl.
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+1. I like the screen on my nexus one more than my slcd sensation. But again its IMHO.
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That second article is a more realistic view of how pentile performs in real life.
Most importantly, take a look at everyone's initial impressions of the screen, and check out the clear amazement in almost all of those articles, it seems that these new nay-sayers are very much based on prior conceptions, rather than real world performance.
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+1. I like the screen on my nexus one more than my slcd sensation. But again its IMHO.
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The clarity difference is astounding. I like my Bolt and all, but put the thing next to any Samsung and it's night and day.
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The icons and text look okay in the running video. Not sure what the distance is.
More interesting were the benchmarks in the video. What were they, and how do they compare with the same benchmarks on some of the flagship devices from the last three months?
Also there seems to be a little bit of rendering/painting delay at 3:55-4:00 when the user tries to pinch an enlarged section of a web page, though that might be expected behavior. Was surprised to see that since the reported Sunspider and V8 benchmarks for the Galaxy Nexus handily beat the SGS2.
Pentile is a load of bull...
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When you using fullscreen apps it is.
So I'm wondering if the screen on the phone is actually nice? I've read mixed reviews but I'm just wondering if its exaggerated or if the screen is actually nice. How would current owners of the device rate it? Is it on par with the retina display? Are pixels actually noticeable? Any info would greatly be appreciated, thanks.
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Gja88 said:
So I'm wondering if the screen on the phone is actually nice? I've read mixed reviews but I'm just wondering if its exaggerated or if the screen is actually nice. How would current owners of the device rate it? Is it on par with the retina display? Are pixels actually noticeable? Any info would greatly be appreciated, thanks.
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I have spent around an hour with it and screen is CRAP compared to iPhone 4. Very very dark even on max brightness and AUTO off. There is no white shade, just grey. If you look closer, you can see individual pixels even they call it HD screen. Very dissapointed, such an amazing design with fresh Android, but terrible screen. Not even SAMLOED+.
iPhone 4 screen is unbeatable.
Really? In a way this wouldn't surprise me, though. My 4 and 4S have always been crisper than the other phones I see. I would've hoped the GN would be better though.
Can you comfortably load a desktop web page and see all the text without zooming?
wow. That sounds absolutely terrible. A nightmare. No white shade, just grey. wow. Just canceled order. Thanks for that.
the screen is brilliant, i love it.
Oh really, huh?
Funny, since usually people complain that AMOLED screens are too ****ing bright.
Crank the brightness up a bit and the GN is a decent screen, certainly better than my NS. Now I also have an iPhone 4s (work made me do it!) and I'd say the colours are a little more realistic on the iPhone. In the end the screen size is of greater benefit to me and fairly soon
Supercurio will have worked his voodoo magic and we will be able to choose whatever colour temperature we want.
Edit... the screen isn't dull in comparison with the iPhone, that's complete crap (sorry). And there are no pixels when zooming in on web pages.
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Tom Servo said:
Oh really, huh?
Funny, since usually people complain that AMOLED screens are too ****ing bright.
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Take iPhone 4 and put next to Samsung(max brightness) and you will see HOW dark is sammy`s display and how "white" is white colour - just terrible. Samsung should have used some really premium display in their flagship superphone instead of this crap. I`m so used to superbright retina screen, looking at sammy`s screen felt like its $50 phone.
Hows it compare to QHD screens ((Amaze/Sensation)?
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Hows it compare to QHD screens ((Amaze/Sensation)?
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I had Sensation and its screen was pretty bright, I would say more brighter than GN.
All of you who are saying GN screen is woow/amazing - you haven`t seen iPhone 4 screen. Put both side to side and you`ll see yourself. If you had $20 Nokia, then of course it will be "mind blowing" screen for you.
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I had Sensation and its screen was pretty bright, I would say more brighter than GN.
All of you who are saying GN screen is woow/amazing - you haven`t seen iPhone 4 screen. Put both side to side and you`ll see yourself. If you had $20 Nokia, then of course it will be "mind blowing" screen for you.
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Er - I have!
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There are some funny people out there.
IMHO the screen is fantastic. Side by side with the GS2 it blows it out of the water. Sharper, clearer AND bigger. The GS2 looks distinctly low res.
Sure the iphone screen is pretty but its tiny.
Im sure people will disagree with me but thats the great thing about opinions
Can anyone do a side by side screen comparison and post pictures?
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I had Sensation and its screen was pretty bright, I would say more brighter than GN.
All of you who are saying GN screen is woow/amazing - you haven`t seen iPhone 4 screen. Put both side to side and you`ll see yourself. If you had $20 Nokia, then of course it will be "mind blowing" screen for you.
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I have seen iPhone 4 screen.
I still prefer the Galaxy Nexus screen.
opinion is subjective. you cannot tell me that I am wrong for liking the Galaxy Nexus screen compared to the iPhone 4. you can only disagree with me.
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Kind of YES it is - because its huge and high res(it has to be, otherwise pixels will jump into your face)
Side by side with the GS2 it blows it out of the water. Sharper, clearer AND bigger. The GS2 looks distinctly low res.
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Agree, GS2 screen is just junk.
Sure the iphone screen is pretty but its tiny.
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++++, but it doesn`t make GN screen WOOOW or AMAZING.
I had so much hope for GN screen, now its out and I`m struggling to make a decision, but I need larger screen.
It's not really surprising that the iPhone has a "better"screen. It uses a high density IPS panel. IPS is well known for its superior brightness, color accuracy, and viewing angles. There's a reason IPS monitors are so wildly popular in photo/graphic editing fields.
Some will disagree because of their ridiculous iPhone animosity, but they don't really matter.
That said, the GSII screen (the SAMOLED+) is not "junk". Anyone who says otherwise is a fool.
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Just google/youtube, quite few. But it doesn`t reflect real life situation because its recorded by camera and it does change colours etc. Go to mobile phone shop, take both and put side by side.
That's funny, I've owned every iPhone iteration except for this latest (4S) and I currently own a Galaxy S II. I took my S II to my friend, who imported a Galaxy Nexus, and is replacing his iPhone 4S (doesn't like it). We cranked the brightness to max on all 3 devices, and then to minimum on all 3.
The Galaxy Nexus had, arguably, the best screen of the bunch. We asked multiple people (5 or 6 of our friends were over) and they all agreed. Watching videos and looking at pictures shows a *WORLD* of difference. The screen on the iPhone is brilliant, but compared to the size and resolution of the Galaxy Nexus...you're kidding yourself if you think it's crap.
Disclaimer: The whites *are* more pure white on the iPhone, and the colors are more true to life; however, that's a common difference betwixt SUPERAMOLED screens and the screen in the iPhone. Some people prefer the higher contrast and color saturation in the AMOLED screens...and I'm starting to agree. After owning every iPhone I used to love them, but now I'm blown away every time I turn on my phone because of the way the colors pop.
Your opinion might be that the screen on the iPhone is better...but to say that the screen on the Galaxy Nexus is crap kind of tells me you've either never seen it in the same conditions as the iPhone or you're expressing your opinion through exaggeration.
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Kind of YES it is - because its huge and high res(it has to be, otherwise pixels will jump into your face)
Agree, GS2 screen is just junk.
++++, but it doesn`t make GN screen WOOOW or AMAZING.
I had so much hope for GN screen, now its out and I`m struggling to make a decision, but I need larger screen.
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Ok.... the screen did make me go wow ! As it has most people ive shown it to.
I dont agree with the apple corporate way of working so an iphone was never an optiom.
IMHO the GN is the best android screen ive seen.
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All of you who are saying GN screen is woow/amazing - you haven`t seen iPhone 4 screen. Put both side to side and you`ll see yourself. If you had $20 Nokia, then of course it will be "mind blowing" screen for you.
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Yes I have. I owned an iPhone 4 before this phone. I prefer the blacks and colours on the GN - much deeper blacks, much more vivid colours.
Whites/light greys, however, are a different story. On high brightness the GN wins, but anything lower and yes, they're grainy, bandy and greyey. Very poor, but I believe it's a symtom of Pentile displays unfortunately.
Those blacks though. Those blacks!
I know the True HD IPS screen is better than the AMOLED but I didn't think it was that much sharper than the HD Super AMOLED on a borrowed Galaxy Nexus. It's almost like putting on glasses, very crisp detail. I'm guessing when there is a non pentile HD AMOLED the differences may be a lot smaller but against the pentile HD AMOLED the difference is huge. The only thing holding the Optimus LTE back against truly surpassing the Galaxy Nexus in just about every way is the lack of an official ICS rom but then there is always CM9 for those of us who know how to get it on the phone.
Could take some pictures for comparison if anyone is interested
Yup. 3 subpixel elements rendering out light using RGB + a decently wide gamut backlight, rather than educated guesswork (well, subpixel rendering) using only a combination of two subpixels per pixel (and still off color). Also, no uneven black screens. Minor nitpick, but has always annoyed me on all amoled displays (it really shows up a night).
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Also keep in mind that the G nexus has a slightly larger screen, therefore lower PPI.
There's no question about it. I also compared the Nexus vs. Nitro side by side, and the text on Nexus' screen is more like my old 3GS, but on Nitro it's much sharper. Oh, did I mention the over-saturated color?
What's funny to me is that the next great android super phone, the Galaxy S3 is STILL going to use a pentile AMOLED screen.
HTC did the right thing using the SUPERLCD in the one X imo
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What's funny to me is that the next great android super phone, the Galaxy S3 is STILL going to use a pentile AMOLED screen.
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Yeah that is disappointing. Those who say pentile isn't noticeable never used a high density IPS display; I could see what looks like a dithering pattern everywhere coming from the optimus true hd lte. I also don't like how AMOLED has these blotches everywhere when viewing the screen on low brightness.
I refuse to get anything less than our True HD IPS. Coming from an iPhone 4 to the Nitro, me eyes have been looking at retina quality screens for too long to go back to anything less.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF-Z3_f3WCE
That's the difference I'm talking about
Another thing to point out (and maybe it's just me) the last phone I had was an infuse 4g and I noticed a burn in with the status bar, my brother's phone is the same which is a galaxy s. Both of them are amoled. Which I could notice while playing games on them.
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True I've already seen a few AMOLED displays with burn-in visible. I think LCD technology is also prone to some image persistence problems but not nearly as prone as AMOLED
Wow the youtube video really gets the point across. And I was already considering buying a Galaxy S3. I think we may be spoiled by our phones because there is a possibility LG may not continue to do the IPS displays. Also, the processor is a factor as well. I'm still on the fence between a 4X and GS3.
I've yet to experience the burn issues with OLED but I've never peaked out the brigtness settings for a prolonged period either which it strongly states can cause screen burn.. There is a divided group I've come to notice were some don't really get all that excited by the vibrant colors and outright detest the lack of viewabilty in open sunlight. I don't make any qualms against those and their reasons are valid. There are a lot of us however who are passionate about them for their stunning colors that captivate a photographers eye. I suppose it's an each their own issue but for anyone who is new with AMOLED, any prolonged brightness at the maxed settings on a fixed screen inevitably causes burn. I've personally never had any issues.
Biggest downside for me on p930 is the touch sensitivity. It's definitely noticeable compared to the skyrocket. It's especially pronounced on the screen edges. Otherwise, the form factor is better (thinner, textured back), the screen has a great feature where the glass curves over the edges of the bezel. Could be the reason the edges are less sensitive? I also prefer the three capacitive buttons vs. four. And as mentioned display quality is great: ppi, benefits of it's lcd vs amoled, etc. Show someone the videos included with the stock gingerbread wrong. It amazing.
Samsung said they are including the pentile again, because it lasts longer then the HD amoled display. Something else to consider.
Samsung said they are including the pentile again, because it lasts longer then the HD amoled display. Something else to consider.
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This sorta seems like a slap in the face to current Galaxy S2 owners doesn't it? "Hi, this is Samsung, your Galaxy S2 screen should be dying soon, perfect time to buy a new S3!"
gmkelly001 said:
This sorta seems like a slap in the face to current Galaxy S2 owners doesn't it? "Hi, this is Samsung, your Galaxy S2 screen should be dying soon, perfect time to buy a new S3!"
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Basically, it's Samsung admitting burn in IS an issue, even within the 2 year confines of many phone contracts (though some in Canada get 3 years!?).
In Canada you basically have to go 3 year contract or the subsidy isn't worth it and you might as well buy the phone outright
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Basically, it's Samsung admitting burn in IS an issue, even within the 2 year confines of many phone contracts (though some in Canada get 3 years!?).
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I think it's more likely that they can't make a profit if they included Super Amoled Hd + displays.
Thank you for your new reel
I returned my Galaxy nexus and bought a LG Nitro HD. The screen on the Nexus had way too many flaws to pass for a high end phone. The yellow tint, and the ghosting were unacceptable to me.
I love my amoled display, but which do you prefer, and why? For Amoled I mean [Amoled, Super Amoled, Super Amoled Plus, Super Amoled HD, (Super Amoled HD Plus?)] And for LCD I mean every other LCD you can name, there are too many for me.
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Jakeuten said:
I love my amoled display, but which do you prefer, and why? For Amoled I mean [Amoled, Super Amoled, Super Amoled Plus, Super Amoled HD, (Super Amoled HD Plus?)] And for LCD I mean every other LCD you can name, there are too many for me.
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After spending time on the beautiful display of the Galaxy S3 as well as many other phones I've worked on, I have to say the AMOLED will always win for me. I am REALLY big about contrast. I love being able to see a display with nearly infinite black level, beautiful saturated colors and decent energy consumption on top of that. OLED technology is the future in my opinion. It's a new technology and there's still so much room to make it even better and there is so much focus going into making it better.
There is no other screen technology that can produce black levels like amoled. However, IPS displays have the best viewing angles.
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I've held my friend's HTC One X+ (a "Super LCD 2" screen) side by side with my S3, both at maximize brightness, outdoors on a sunny day. The LCD screen was noticeably brighter and easier to read in direct sunlight.
Yeah the whites are off, yeah the brightness isn't the greatest, yeah it is pentile. Technically it's not as good as the screen on the Nexus 4. And yet, my eyes prefer this AMOLED hands down. You can't explain that.
I have a Nexus 10 tablet and the GS3. Although the resolution of the Nexus 10's PLS (a type of LCD) display is unquestionably higher, the GS3's SAMOLED HD is still considerably better, in my opinion. With that being said, the IPS display used in the Kindle Fire HD is absolutely gorgeous. I'd go as far as saying that it gives the SAMOLED HD a run for its money.
This sg3 is my first Samoled device. I love it. Blows away my old Atrix display.
Sg3 is still oentile.but the new note 2 uses the newer tech with samoled..
I'm also coming from an atrix. Amoled technology is much better no question. Much more expensive to manufacture. I love how you put the brightness up a little and see perfectly in sunlight. Plus black themes will save you battery. Plus it looks amazing.
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This sg3 is my first Samoled device. I love it. Blows away my old Atrix display.
Sg3 is still oentile.but the new note 2 uses the newer tech with samoled..
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My cousin got the note 2 the other day, and we compared the two side by side. Honestly, neither of us could tell the difference.
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The s3 has a great screen, but personally I do like samsungs super amoled + better. For example my s2 had a richer contrast to it, that I liked better. However, its still not something easy to see unless you're looking for it. The note 2 when i held them side by side, maybe had a little more sharpness, but that didnt matter to me at all with the fact I found it impractical to use with one hand. Or how I would hate having to hold that huge thing to my ear every time I made a call.
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My wife has an iPhone 5 and i had the iPhone 4 (both LCD) and so I can easily make a direct comparison. The iPhone 5 is much brighter and is more accurate in its color. The Galaxy 3 has deeper blacks and more color saturation. Here is a professional comparison:
http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_2.htm