For only wanted to comment if you think about it if you are from me with that acuerdon windows phone 7 is not remarkable differences between phone models and high-end midrange, such as if about android.
For example, Android midrange we have the desire and s with 1 gigahertz adreno gpu high end 205 and have a htc one x with 4 cores and the best chipset for mobile nexiste, but in windows we have in mid-range phone for example Lumia nokia 710, htc radar and both with 1.4 and 1 gigahertz processor, and adreno 205, and we have the high end nokia Lumia 800 gigahertz processor with 1.4 and adrenos 205, the same as in midrange, only varies the camera Photo and materials.
you think?
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All the same CPU, so yes you are correct.
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kevin_23 said:
For only wanted to comment if you think about it if you are from me with that acuerdon windows phone 7 is not remarkable differences between phone models and high-end midrange, such as if about android.
For example, Android midrange we have the desire and s with 1 gigahertz adreno gpu high end 205 and have a htc one x with 4 cores and the best chipset for mobile nexiste, but in windows we have in mid-range phone for example Lumia nokia 710, htc radar and both with 1.4 and 1 gigahertz processor, and adreno 205, and we have the high end nokia Lumia 800 gigahertz processor with 1.4 and adrenos 205, the same as in midrange, only varies the camera Photo and materials.
you think?
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Mmm... No. Lumia 900 has a bigger screen than the Lumia 800 and the Lumia 900 has LTE.
sitizenx said:
Mmm... No. Lumia 900 has a bigger screen than the Lumia 800 and the Lumia 900 has LTE.
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Judging from the broken English, I think he's referring to MS's minimum specs that all WP7 phones are basically the same. Yes, the 900 has a bigger screen than the 800, etc. The Titan II has a larger screen than say, an LG Quantum but the res is still 480 x 800. The 900 has LTE, but if you're in an area where there's no LTE it's a useless feature and you're on 3G the same as a DVP. Unless he re-posts and clarifies, I think this is what he means.
fatclue said:
Judging from the broken English, I think he's referring to MS's minimum specs that all WP7 phones are basically the same.
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That was a long winded way of asking if the minimum spec requirement is universal.
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The 900 has LTE, but if you're in an area where there's no LTE it's a useless feature and you're on 3G the same as a DVP.
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That's like saying the speed limit on the streets in my small town is 40 mph so it doesn't matter when we are comparing specs between my Honda and a Lamborghini.
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WP7 calls for a minimum of 1ghz processor.
That does make me think - how come the competition is able to provide smooth UI with 600mhz phones? ie. android / iphone / palm pre?
Is the WP7 so much processor hungry? that is calling for trouble...
your thoughts please.
The demo shown was using non-final build of the OS.
Something like BETA version, not yet final version.
There you would expect: bugs, glitch, errors, etc.
But still, it is quite impressive.
We can only judge the "perfectness" of the OS later when it has been "OFFICIALLY" released.
chiks19018 said:
WP7 calls for a minimum of 1ghz processor.
That does make me think - how come the competition is able to provide smooth UI with 600mhz phones? ie. android / iphone / palm pre?
Is the WP7 so much processor hungry? that is calling for trouble...
your thoughts please.
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It's about more than just the basic UI. Lots of background stuff going on. All those live tiles need CPU power to populate. The Zune HD with a similar UI is only 600mhz. Microsoft is just setting the bar high so that the entire device is snappy. Compare the experience of an Android phone on a Snapdragon to that of a lesser CPU and there's a big speed difference. Microsoft is just demanding the best and it gives them more room to grow. If they set the bar low, the devices will be obsolete much sooner. Besides, faster stuff will likely be out by the end of the year and 1ghz will be somewhat commonplace. Apple's iPad is 1ghz and if they release an updated iPhone later this year I'd bet it will be 1ghz as well.
who's to say it needs all 1GHz? i think they're doing a great thing by setting that as minimum. our devices would be up to date much longer or at least it will feel that way. It's a good sign for those who don't like upgrading every year, no?
Besides, the Nexus One is 1ghz.... Supersonic will probably be 1ghz..... Everything will be 1ghz by the time wp7 comes out, if not more.
RustyGrom said:
Microsoft is just setting the bar high so that the entire device is snappy. Compare the experience of an Android phone on a Snapdragon to that of a lesser CPU and there's a big speed difference. Microsoft is just demanding the best and it gives them more room to grow. If they set the bar low, the devices will be obsolete much sooner. Besides, faster stuff will likely be out by the end of the year and 1ghz will be somewhat commonplace. Apple's iPad is 1ghz and if they release an updated iPhone later this year I'd bet it will be 1ghz as well.
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What he said. It's set because it's very doable.. at the end of this year, which manufacturer would expect a new device to be competitive using an old processor? Setting a bare minimum as the minimum would mean that you have 7 Series phones which perform much crappier than others.. a situation they want to avoid.
Plus it's mobile XBox.
My prediction:
Touch HD3
Qualcomm Dual Core 1.5 GHz Snapdragon processor
4.3" OLED Capacitive screen WVGA 800x480
No hardware keyboard
5 MP Camera with auto-focus and flash
aGPS
FM Radio
Windows Phone 7 Series
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gogol said:
My prediction:
Touch HD3
Qualcomm Dual Core 1.5 GHz Snapdragon processor
4.3" OLED Capacitive screen WVGA 800x480
No hardware keyboard
5 MP Camera with auto-focus and flash
aGPS
FM Radio
Windows Phone 7 Series
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the new qualcomm 1.5 ghz chip is not meant for mobile devices till now it is used for mini notebooks the one which will be avaliable for devices is the 1.3 ghz version same specifications as the 1ghz processor but with 45 nm technology( uses less power ) same graphics performance but with 300 mhz over clock speed nearly same performance but less power consumption
Where does it say 1GHz is required? Right: Nowhere.
An ARMv7 processor is required. iPhone/Pre/Droid all have ARMv7 processors.
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Where does it say 1GHz is required? Right: Nowhere.
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i think 1ghz is enough for a mobile os (the win xp runs on 500mhz processor and on 128 of ram )
It's not all about the clock rate. An ARMv7 processor at 500MHz is about twice as fast as an ARMv6 processor at the same clock speed.
(that's why the iPhone 3GS is so much faster than the iPhone 3G, despite only having 200Mhz more)
Windows XP doesn't run on ARM processors at all.
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Where does it say 1GHz is required? Right: Nowhere.
An ARMv7 processor is required. iPhone/Pre/Droid all have ARMv7 processors.
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Microsoft said that Qualcomm was the only silicon provider right now.
Qualcomm said they are pleased that their Snapdragon CPU has been chosen for WP7.
Snapdragon runs at 1ghz+.
Therefore, in effect, the minimum CPU is 1ghz.
chiks19018 said:
WP7 calls for a minimum of 1ghz processor.
That does make me think - how come the competition is able to provide smooth UI with 600mhz phones? ie. android / iphone / palm pre?
Is the WP7 so much processor hungry? that is calling for trouble...
your thoughts please.
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Well I'm sure they could, but Microsoft wants there to be very high minimum specs that developers can expect so that all apps can take advantage of the hardware to its full extent. An example would be the way WinMo apps are now. Most 3D apps aren't very good because the minimum of what developers can expect in a device isn't very high; thus, they have have to make it use as little resources as possible.
Based on what I'm hearing most current 6.X phones will be unsupported unless they pack a Dragoon. I hope the scorpion CPU is used in a win7 phone.
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It's about more than just the basic UI. Lots of background stuff going on. All those live tiles need CPU power to populate. The Zune HD with a similar UI is only 600mhz. Microsoft is just setting the bar high so that the entire device is snappy. Compare the experience of an Android phone on a Snapdragon to that of a lesser CPU and there's a big speed difference. Microsoft is just demanding the best and it gives them more room to grow. If they set the bar low, the devices will be obsolete much sooner. Besides, faster stuff will likely be out by the end of the year and 1ghz will be somewhat commonplace. Apple's iPad is 1ghz and if they release an updated iPhone later this year I'd bet it will be 1ghz as well.
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Yep, I would agree this is their plan as well. Personally, I would like to have phone stay pretty current within the 2 year contract I have to sign to get one at a fair price....
Insurance is mandatory on this one...
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Microsoft said that Qualcomm was the only silicon provider right now.
Qualcomm said they are pleased that their Snapdragon CPU has been chosen for WP7.
Snapdragon runs at 1ghz+.
Therefore, in effect, the minimum CPU is 1ghz.
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Snapdragon can run at lower clock rates as well (e.g. 768Mhz in the Acer Liquid).
They also have slower processors besides Snapdragon (though I don't know whether the 7227 is ARMv7, I don't care about low end devices ).
freyberry said:
Snapdragon can run at lower clock rates as well (e.g. 768Mhz in the Acer Liquid).
They also have slower processors besides Snapdragon (though I don't know whether the 7227 is ARMv7, I don't care about low end devices ).
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Any CPU can be underclocked. The "normal" speed for Snapdragons is 1ghz.
Qualcomm specifically mentioned that the Snapdragon had been chosen for WP7.
How about the famous HTC graphic acceleration driver?
I hope this time there will be no more missing graphics driver for WP7!
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How about the famous HTC graphic acceleration driver?
I hope this time there will be no more missing graphics driver for WP7!
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Microsoft said they're providing the drivers for these phones, I think
EDIT: Never mind.
As the title states we're finally catching up in Specs.
http://www.slashgear.com/windows-ph...feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+slashgear+(SlashGear)
Windows Phone LTE and dual-core mod...imes where you’re out of the market.”[/quote]
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I saw this earlier. My thoughts:
A) Good for him saying how the single core phones still outperform the new dual cores.
B) That being said, they need to come out with a beast of a phone. That's something wp needs. And for the love of smog please up the pixels to at least 720p.
Hi,all
before i buy this mobile i would to ask wich proccesor is in the one v
Wikipedia Says: CPU 1 GHz single-core Qualcomm Scorpion
Local Store:1 GHz Quad-core
cybertron12 said:
Hi,all
before i buy this mobile i would to ask wich proccesor is in the one v
Wikipedia Says: CPU1 GHz single-core Qualcomm Scorpion
Local Store:1 GHz Quad-core
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It's not a quad core, I wish it was. A single core qualcomm.
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cybertron12 said:
Hi,all
before i buy this mobile i would to ask wich proccesor is in the one v
Wikipedia Says: CPU 1 GHz single-core Qualcomm Scorpion
Local Store:1 GHz Quad-core
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quad core... it will be dreaded to fail with 512mb RAM
The HTC One V is the smaller brother of HTC's 2012 flagship One X. Its 1GHz Qualcomm S2 single core processor and 512MB RAM place it in the low end of the smartphone scale. The One V has a 3.7" Super LCD2 display with a resolution of 480x800 and 252ppi. Other features include 4GB storage, microSD slot up to 32GB, 5MP camera and 720p video recording, all powered by a 1500mAh battery.
Another name for the processor could be 1GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255.
cybertron12 said:
Hi,all
before i buy this mobile i would to ask wich proccesor is in the one v
Wikipedia Says: CPU 1 GHz single-core Qualcomm Scorpion
Local Store:1 GHz Quad-core
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Hmmmm, what does it say on forst page of XDA hov forum? : http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1551
The earlier period, P6 is sold frequently in Chinese market.
4.7 inch screen CPU with a metal shell, this kind of an apparence is exhilarating. Inside the machine, quad core, 2GB RAM is reasonable for you to purchase.
HUAWEI 3X, a monster with a bigger 5.5 inch screen, but the armor is softer, plastic. Octa-core, which is rarely in China smartphones. RAM is also 2GB.
That’s a surprising point. 8-core is just that unworthy?? Oh I almost forgot, the back camera of 3X turns up to 13MP. On the other side, P6’s is just 8MP.
I don’t understand it absolutely.
Unless you say, the metal is becoming precious as time goes by.
yandexrhino said:
The earlier period, P6 is sold frequently in Chinese market.
4.7 inch screen CPU with a metal shell, this kind of an apparence is exhilarating. Inside the machine, quad core, 2GB RAM is reasonable for you to purchase.
HUAWEI 3X, a monster with a bigger 5.5 inch screen, but the armor is softer, plastic. Octa-core, which is rarely in China smartphones. RAM is also 2GB.
That’s a surprising point. 8-core is just that unworthy?? Oh I almost forgot, the back camera of 3X turns up to 13MP. On the other side, P6’s is just 8MP.
I don’t understand it absolutely.
Unless you say, the metal is becoming precious as time goes by.
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K3V2 chipset costs alot. MTK chipsets are very cheap.
The 8-core MTK chipset is comparable to the snapdragon 800 chipset(!). Yes, it is more optimized than K3V2 and yes it is way more powerful than the K3V2 used in the P6.
A simple demonstration would be an antutu test: K3V2 phones score 13k-17k with 15k average, 8core MTK chipset and 4core snapdragon 800 scores 25k to 35k and ~30k for average, snapdragon 801 scores ~33k
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K3V2 chipset costs alot. MTK chipsets are very cheap.
The 8-core MTK chipset is comparable to the snapdragon 800 chipset(!). Yes, it is more optimized than K3V2 and yes it is way more powerful than the K3V2 used in the P6.
A simple demonstration would be an antutu test: K3V2 phones score 13k-17k with 15k average, 8core MTK chipset and 4core snapdragon 800 scores 25k to 35k and ~30k for average, snapdragon 801 scores ~33k
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Why on earth the KRV2 chipset are expensive when the otherone is better. I don.t understend this phone it is driving me crazy. It is like Huawei dose not want this phone to perform equally to it.s hardwere. It is insane.
Maybe we can make a petition to hawei to force them to release the KK kernel source for the developers. If they can't do it let others that can.
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Why on earth the KRV2 chipset are expensive when the otherone is better. I don.t understend this phone it is driving me crazy. It is like Huawei dose not want this phone to perform equally to it.s hardwere. It is insane.
Maybe we can make a petition to hawei to force them to release the KK kernel source for the developers. If they can't do it let others that can.
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i wouldn't say better!!!:good:
tauio111 said:
K3V2 chipset costs alot. MTK chipsets are very cheap.
The 8-core MTK chipset is comparable to the snapdragon 800 chipset(!). Yes, it is more optimized than K3V2 and yes it is way more powerful than the K3V2 used in the P6.
A simple demonstration would be an antutu test: K3V2 phones score 13k-17k with 15k average, 8core MTK chipset and 4core snapdragon 800 scores 25k to 35k and ~30k for average, snapdragon 801 scores ~33k
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What a perfectly accurate estimation. The question is Octa-core smartphone market is not going hotter. Generally speaking, it's reasonable to have a considerable selling. Anyway, to choose 8-core, most of them are insiders?!
Well, the new mid-range CPU Snapdragon 650 found on the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro is a beast, check this video minute 4:38, the results on Antutu are around 75000, my Nexus 5X gets around 56000, that is Snapdragon 810 performance from the 650, damn...
Just some food for thought for you guys, 2015 was not the year for Qualcomm, this year though...
The 650 is a lower end version of the 808 (28nm vs 20nm). Your own personal Antutu score does not represent what the 808 is capable of.
The 650 would be a downgrade from the 808 specifically in terms of power usage and heat generation.
lol... check yourself dude. 808 is so much better than anything mid range like SD 6XX. it even beats some SD810 devices. check my score.
AnTuTu means nothing! When you run AnTuTu on a Snapdragon 820 device, few times, it will drop on under 100k (from about 130k).
The new 650 runs like 808...
http://www.gizmochina.com/2016/01/1...x10-vs-snapdragon-808-antutu-scores-compared/
Here you get some realistic benchmarks, not that sience fiction screenshot from the user in #3