Related
How is the performance of HDMI out on this tablet? I'm planing to stream 720p/1080p flash content from my tab to my 1080p TV.
its actually quite good. im playing 64oid on my 60inch led. works great!
Really lol? I thought it might lag a bit lol
Its good with playing movies but overall use it lags and kinda choppy a bit. Makes things kinda feel like you're still on single core is my best explanation.
Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk
it lags after 1 hr of playing a video. Don't plug the power a/c and play netflix after 20 min the system slow down big time but playing game its very good. Netflix is set to 720p and I play some mvk movie on 1080p
1080p? That's good. I watch lats of flash videos
I have used it for movies and it is flawless in my opinion.
Sent from my A100 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk
jondi23 said:
it lags after 1 hr of playing a video. Don't plug the power a/c and play netflix after 20 min the system slow down big time but playing game its very good. Netflix is set to 720p and I play some mvk movie on 1080p
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think the screen size has a part to play as well. There was slight lag watching video. But mabye it's just this tablet :/
Sent from my LG-P999 using Tapatalk
I think the lag is limitation of tegra 2 or dual core devices. I haven't tested equinox but I have qualcomm dual core evo 3d and its worse. However I have a Transformer Prime tegra 3 quadcore and there is no lag at all. It's smooth as it is on the tablet and TV.
IMO For the price and size there is no other 7 inch tablet that can do what the a100 can even via HDMI. So either you hold on and wait for other 7 inchers to come out that have better spec'd (which is probably atleast 6 months from now) or get a Prime =) that will cost you double the price.
To be honest the lag when streaming via netflix or youtube is not everytime. Also they depend on your network connection. I watch Netflix a lot via HDMI and I don't really see much lag other than when I start an app or flipping through screens.
aznmode said:
I think the lag is limitation of tegra 2 or dual core devices. I haven't tested equinox but I have qualcomm dual core evo 3d and its worse.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its not a limitation of the tegra2 but a limitation that acer has put on the device by not letting us overclock it. If we are ever able to run a custom kernel with overclock features and can overclock both the cpu and gpus you wont see any lag at all.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
crossix said:
Its not a limitation of the tegra2 but a limitation that acer has put on the device by not letting us overclock it. If we are ever able to run a custom kernel with overclock features and can overclock both the cpu and gpus you wont see any lag at all.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree that custom kernel, rom, or OC (which may never happen cause of acer) may eliminate lag however I think the OP is asking opinion based on stock performance.
I just did some testing and I don't know if it just my a100 or all a100 but if the battery temp past 95 f the CPU underclock to 456 so my Netflix starts to slow down big time. Is this a system setting for the a100 to not overheat? And why mini HDMI will make the battery temp go up to 98 f
<<Another interesting (although quite odd as well) detail, is the fact that the HTC One S is reportedly the second fastest mobile device in the world when it comes to rendering video, obtaining results that are far superior to the Tegra 3 Transformer Prime and HTC One X.>>
http://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-s4-pro-benchmark-66510/
Looks like this won't be "the benchmark phone", but I really don't care when all the real world reports are talking about how fast and smooth it is.
This was answered more than 100 times, check Mega thread.
People are so obsessed with Benchmarks they forgets about real world usage.
ShyamSasi said:
People are so obsessed with Benchmarks they forgets about real world usage.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Fully agree!
I don't care for these numbers, they are nothing worth.
Once AOSP ROMs pop up and devs start to meddle with everything, the X will be *the* benchmark phone.
And yes, numbers doesn't mean anything. My highest benchmark number made on my HTC Desire was made with a Sense ROM, yet I find Oxygen and CyanogenMod *a lot* faster than Sense for everyday use. So it means nothing.
i dont understand where everyone got this feeling is it from my thread? i showed pros and cons and i showed how they trade blows in benchmarks, wipes the s4 in true multi core tests like Antutu, i also showed how the GPU beats adreno225 in many tests and how its beats it overall @720p
Tegra 3 is currently the fastest most untapped mobile processor out there
many benchmarks are not taking advantage of the quad core
this is video proves it all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9S65h7cT0bo
hamdir said:
i dont understand where everyone got this feeling is it from my thread? i showed pros and cons and i showed how they trade blows in benchmarks, wipes the s4 in true multi core tests like Antutu, i also showed how the GPU beats adreno225 in many tests and how its beats it overall @720p
Tegra 3 is currently the fastest most untapped mobile processor out there
many benchmarks are not taking advantage of the quad core
this is video proves it all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9S65h7cT0bo
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 that video does really show the balls the Tegra 3 has!
hamdir said:
i dont understand where everyone got this feeling is it from my thread? i showed pros and cons and i showed how they trade blows in benchmarks, wipes the s4 in true multi core tests like Antutu, i also showed how the GPU beats adreno225 in many tests and how its beats it overall @720p
Tegra 3 is currently the fastest most untapped mobile processor out there
many benchmarks are not taking advantage of the quad core
this is video proves it all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9S65h7cT0bo
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
14 hd videos! Amazing!
Sent from my HTC Sensation Coredroid V5 RC11
hamdir said:
i dont understand where everyone got this feeling is it from my thread? i showed pros and cons and i showed how they trade blows in benchmarks, wipes the s4 in true multi core tests like Antutu, i also showed how the GPU beats adreno225 in many tests and how its beats it overall @720p
Tegra 3 is currently the fastest most untapped mobile processor out there
many benchmarks are not taking advantage of the quad core
this is video proves it all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9S65h7cT0bo
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Getting thankses for my find =] (is 'thankses' a real word?)
If I were apple I would patent this video.
eeeeeee said:
Getting thankses for my find =] (is 'thankses' a real word?)
If I were apple I would patent this video.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
here you got the thanks in return, this video if flooring anybody who sees it
its already circulating in my friends ring
Just found this benchmark video on youtube:
Benchmark : HTC One X vs HTC One S (AnTuTu)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MELsb7neD2o
HTC One X vs HTC One S - Quad Core Tegra 3 vs Dual Core S4 Qualcomm
One X : 10 597
One S : 6 458
yuripave said:
Just found this benchmark video on youtube:
Benchmark : HTC One X vs HTC One S (AnTuTu)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MELsb7neD2o
HTC One X vs HTC One S - Quad Core Tegra 3 vs Dual Core S4 Qualcomm
One X : 10 597
One S : 6 458
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
excellent that's nearly double
Antutu is very good at scaling with the number of cores
i'll caught you into the mega thread!
hamdir said:
i dont understand where everyone got this feeling is it from my thread? i showed pros and cons and i showed how they trade blows in benchmarks, wipes the s4 in true multi core tests like Antutu, i also showed how the GPU beats adreno225 in many tests and how its beats it overall @720p
Tegra 3 is currently the fastest most untapped mobile processor out there
many benchmarks are not taking advantage of the quad core
this is video proves it all
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Congratulations, you found one of the few use cases where all four cores are used.
I have owned the transformer prime tf201 for a month before returning it, and was not massively impressed by the tegra 3.
Under honeycomb it felt virtually the same as the tf101, apart from home screen navigation. The browser was horrendous and considerably worse than my galaxy s2.
On ICS the whole thing was a massive improvement, but sadly the browser (any of them) was still not as good as the ipad2, and even the galaxy s2. I suspect in most cases, the qualcomm s4 will simply feel faster (and browsing in particular im hoping).
Tegra 3 was VERY impressive for media playback though and games aswell, however, there are barely any games on the market that the adreno 205 can not handle let alone the 220/225.
Adreno 220 in s3 was bottlenecked, 225 in s4 should be a lot better and close to tegra 3 gpu.
rarsi123 said:
Congratulations, you found one of the few use cases where all four cores are used.
I have owned the transformer prime tf201 for a month before returning it, and was not massively impressed by the tegra 3.
Under honeycomb it felt virtually the same as the tf101, apart from home screen navigation. The browser was horrendous and considerably worse than my galaxy s2.
On ICS the whole thing was a massive improvement, but sadly the browser (any of them) was still not as good as the ipad2, and even the galaxy s2. I suspect in most cases, the qualcomm s4 will simply feel faster (and browsing in particular im hoping).
Tegra 3 was VERY impressive for media playback though and games aswell, however, there are barely any games on the market that the adreno 205 can not handle let alone the 220/225.
Adreno 220 in s3 was bottlenecked, 225 in s4 should be a lot better and close to tegra 3 gpu.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i have a Desire HD adreno205 and its starting to fall behind, the 3d games that do work are not working at their best
android default browser is always nonsense even for snapdragon device and opera is a tons better (or other alternative) it might be an asus problem
hard to believe the quad fails in a real multi tasking job like web browsing
media playback and games? YES PLEASE
you returned the T Prime and its the most well praised android tablet out there, with most media concluding its a titan a match to the iPad3, updates are making it better, in fact a massive update has just been released
your issues with the T Prime sound only software problems
not to mention the T Prime shipped with early T30 silicon which had troubles achieving its own thermal goals, we are getting a revised AP33 aimed at 1.5/1.6ghz stable in a mobile phone
you mean to tell me opera was performing worse in the Prime opposed to the SGS2? it runs perfectly on my DHD
Look i wanted to believe the s4 mopes t3 myself mate since i'm angry at the T3 GPU, but i have checked every review, every bench and every technical article out there and simply it did not beat the T3 it simply almost matched it and impressive feat for a dual core, but doesn't cancel or out do the T3 especially not at 1280x720
finally check my posts on the topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24097326&postcount=5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24218006&postcount=12
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24189921&postcount=15
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24182862&postcount=2344
hamdir said:
i have a Desire HD adreno205 and its starting to fall behind, the 3d games that do work are not working at their best
android default browser is always nonsense even for snapdragon device and opera is a tons better (or other alternative) it might be an asus problem
hard to believe the quad fails in a real multi tasking job like web browsing
media playback and games? YES PLEASE
you returned the T Prime and its the most well praised android tablet out there, with most media concluding its a titan a match to the iPad3, updates are making it better, in fact a massive update has just been released
your issues with the T Prime sound only software problems
not to mention the T Prime shipped with early T30 silicon which had troubles achieving its own thermal goals, we are getting a revised AP33 aimed at 1.5/1.6ghz stable in a mobile phone
finally check my posts on the topic
you mean to tell me opera was performing worse in the Prime opposed to the SGS2? it runs perfectly on my DHD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I returned it cause i couldnt afford the the £500 to keep it, especially when i know there's a £200 version coming soon! Under ICS it was very useable, but had some notorious bugs, like random reboots. The only real alternative is the ipad, but the aspect ratio renders it useless for media playback, so you are right, the tf201 is the only acceptable tablet out there.
Opera at the time didnt work that well in either honeycomb or ICS, but was amazing in gingerbread. I returned it before chrome beta came out, so cant comment on that either. The default browser has overall been very good since ICS, and i suspect this will be the case in any ONE S/X configuration.
The web browsing was acceptable with ICS, but didnt quite match the galaxy s2 or the ipad2. The galaxy s2 was that good that it made my ipad redundant and I eventually sold it. You'd never guess there was a quad core behind the tf201 when using the internet browser. It never quite looked as good as the only other ICS device, the galaxy nexus.
Overall I was really looking forward to tegra 3 and was left a little disappointed, and felt that perhaps the A9 was just not that good overall. I hoped the revised tegra 3 is a lot better. I was really looking forward to the s4 as well and am again disappointed that it is only comparable with the tegra 3. I may have to wait for the 2.5ghz quadcore version!
---------- Post added at 10:47 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:25 AM ----------
My next phone will still probably be the one x though, one s has been crippled with a poor display and memory
i'm not interested in GPU power but more in efficiency per watt...
maybe too early to know exactly, but i would like to know:
Would the One S combination (S4, Adreno225, qHD, 1650mAh) be more power efficient (i.e battery lasts longer in normal everyday use) than the One X (T3, 720p, 1800mAh).
normal use: 1-2h display usage, browsing, mails, phone, camera, sms
thx!
rarsi123 said:
I returned it cause i couldnt afford the the £500 to keep it, especially when i know there's a £200 version coming soon! Under ICS it was very useable, but had some notorious bugs, like random reboots. The only real alternative is the ipad, but the aspect ratio renders it useless for media playback, so you are right, the tf201 is the only acceptable tablet out there.
Opera at the time didnt work that well in either honeycomb or ICS, but was amazing in gingerbread. I returned it before chrome beta came out, so cant comment on that either. The default browser has overall been very good since ICS, and i suspect this will be the case in any ONE S/X configuration.
The web browsing was acceptable with ICS, but didnt quite match the galaxy s2 or the ipad2. The galaxy s2 was that good that it made my ipad redundant and I eventually sold it. You'd never guess there was a quad core behind the tf201 when using the internet browser. It never quite looked as good as the only other ICS device, the galaxy nexus.
Overall I was really looking forward to tegra 3 and was left a little disappointed, and felt that perhaps the A9 was just not that good overall. I hoped the revised tegra 3 is a lot better. I was really looking forward to the s4 as well and am again disappointed that it is only comparable with the tegra 3. I may have to wait for the 2.5ghz quadcore version!
---------- Post added at 10:47 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:25 AM ----------
My next phone will still probably be the one x though, one s has been crippled with a poor display and memory
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the reboots you speak of are attributed to software problems and early T30, the revision only solves problems with the silicon, allow 200mhz extra, nothing changed in architecture
@zerozoneice from what we are hearing, T3 is very power efficient, i don't know about amoled
hamdir said:
@zerozoneice from what we are hearing, T3 is very power efficient, i don't know about amoled
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thought the X has SLCD2 and the S has SAMOLED
i have a feeling they carefully balanced the **** out between the two models so there's no clear battery winner....
rarsi123 said:
Congratulations, you found one of the few use cases where all four cores are used.
I have owned the transformer prime tf201 for a month before returning it, and was not massively impressed by the tegra 3.
Under honeycomb it felt virtually the same as the tf101, apart from home screen navigation. The browser was horrendous and considerably worse than my galaxy s2.
On ICS the whole thing was a massive improvement, but sadly the browser (any of them) was still not as good as the ipad2, and even the galaxy s2. I suspect in most cases, the qualcomm s4 will simply feel faster (and browsing in particular im hoping).
Tegra 3 was VERY impressive for media playback though and games aswell, however, there are barely any games on the market that the adreno 205 can not handle let alone the 220/225.
Adreno 220 in s3 was bottlenecked, 225 in s4 should be a lot better and close to tegra 3 gpu.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm using Asus transformer prime for last 3 months and I think its the best pad right now. It replaced my iPad 2. Tegra 3 is fast at everything. Especially with ICS.
Can hardly wait for One X.
There is nothing better for multitasking than T3 right now. And I use it quite often on phone too.
Companion core should bring good battery life too.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium
I just readed this article:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ne-x-isnt-amazing-at-all-even-by-the-numbers/
Does it "sound" that we got screwed by HTC? Does HIgh-end device got suxxy sound compared to he's little brothers or US brothers? How can we fight with that? send HOX to HTC and demand replacement?
Adam
Maybe i will start sell my HOX Int. version...
I think we should react in some other way, like demand device replacement. This is a real JOKE that flagship model got such flaw in audio ...
You wanted a quadcore phone, so you bought a phone with the first quadcore soc, the Tegra3, you could have known before hand what the audio and graphics quality would have been like. There are plenty of reviews and it is well known that except for having 4 cores, the tegra3 is a mediocre performer
Its not about quad core man. This is false advertising which is illegal in EU here. If i see the BEATS logo it should bean that its not only software equalizer (i got HP with beats HW). ANd remember this is high end device i paid for it a lot of $$ and i demand a high quality in every aspect, not a false promises.
godutch said:
You wanted a quadcore phone, so you bought a phone with the first quadcore soc, the Tegra3, you could have known before hand what the audio and graphics quality would have been like. There are plenty of reviews and it is well known that except for having 4 cores, the tegra3 is a mediocre performer
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hope u don't mean in speed otherwise major lol
anybody lying to himself to think the dual s4 is a better SOC is just misinformed
as for the OP relax, enough with the doom m gloom you got a much powerful processor in return of some audio purity loss its still very good, use your ears to judge n forget the numbers
hamdir said:
as for the OP relax, enough with the doom m gloom you got a much powerful processor in return of some audio purity loss its still very good, use your ears to judge n forget the numbers
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think you don't get the point.
What you saying is simply :
"You have 4 rooms flat without toilet (just a hole in floor), but hey! its four rooms! you should not complain cause in return for FOUR rooms u got to loss full toilet"
This is high end device. Its advertised as BEATS which is not (logo doesn't count).
AdamLange said:
I think you don't get the point.
What you saying is simply :
"You have 4 rooms flat without toilet (just a hole in floor), but hey! its four rooms! you should not complain cause in return for FOUR rooms u got to loss full toilet"
This is high end device. Its advertised as BEATS which is not (logo doesn't count).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
your joke made my day Glorious :victory: .
Well , just my 1 cent words .
You paid and your not satisfied , you can go to court and claim about false advertisement. Those who are happy with their phone they are enjoying it.
It all depends on what you really want.
I bought my HOX from INDIA... and Beats work gr8 on my headphone but the speaker is way bad.
Overall i am delighted. :angel:
hamdir said:
I hope u don't mean in speed otherwise major lol
anybody lying to himself to think the dual s4 is a better SOC is just misinformed
as for the OP relax, enough with the doom m gloom you got a much powerful processor in return of some audio purity loss its still very good, use your ears to judge n forget the numbers
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think you are misinformed, the tegra3 is only fast in synthetic benchmarks, optimized for multithreading, in the real android world apps are not even optimized for 2 cores, let alone 4
this thread made me laugh
AdamLange said:
I think you don't get the point.
What you saying is simply :
"You have 4 rooms flat without toilet (just a hole in floor), but hey! its four rooms! you should not complain cause in return for FOUR rooms u got to loss full toilet"
This is high end device. Its advertised as BEATS which is not (logo doesn't count).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where does it say BEATS is anything more than a software equalizer?
Exactly. HP laptops have the same software but better speakers, hence the better sound. If it was something like having Sennheiser hardware in it and it was crap THEN I'd be complaining
I have to say the speakers with the hox are completely crap, I bought soundmagic mp-21's (they are pretty cheap) and sound is much better (better than the sgs2), though I am no audiophile
AdamLange said:
Its not about quad core man. This is false advertising which is illegal in EU here. If i see the BEATS logo it should bean that its not only software equalizer (i got HP with beats HW). ANd remember this is high end device i paid for it a lot of $$ and i demand a high quality in every aspect, not a false promises.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow, you sure put a lot of weight in one person's opinion. If you read the masthead the article's an editorial, not a review. You or I could submit something totally opposite and it would be published.
First, Beats is s/w sound enhancement so I don't think that's your beef. Second, the DAC is just one component that determines a devices sound quality. Even with a Wolfson DAC the international SGS3 is having issues. Here's 54 pages of discussion on their forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633685
The author of that article picked one stat out of a dozen to compare. Here's the whole review. The SGS3 is better than the One X but not by much.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_vs_htc_one_x-review-759p7.php
I got to use a DoCoMo SGS3 for two days about a week ago and it's essentially the same phone as the U.S. versions. In comparing it to the One X it sounded a little brighter but the separation and range on the One X was significantly better. Volume on both was more than adequate and I didn't have to run either at anywhere near max to get decent volume. I compared them using a pair of Shure 530's. I'll say this about the SGS3 I played with, it was horrible at A2DP. It was flat with little range; worse than listening to XM. The One X has better A2DP than any device I've ever used.
Everyone's so freaked out about sound quality based on what they read.. Unless you're listening to lossless audio on headsets that cost several hundred dollars or outputting to home A/V systems that cost thousands all the subtleties being discussed are meaningless. Listening to128kb MP3's on $20 headsets the SGS3(s), One S, and One X will all sound the same.
As for being screwed by HTC and going after them, on what grounds? They never promised anything other than Beats and love it or hate it it's in there.
godutch said:
I think you are misinformed, the tegra3 is only fast in synthetic benchmarks, optimized for multithreading, in the real android world apps are not even optimized for 2 cores, let alone 4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
sigh if the one x mega I formation thread is not enough for u with endless facts, figures and comparisons about the tegra3 cpus an gpu against the dual s4
if the fleet of thd optimized games still can't convince u and the upcoming google nexus tablet to talk u in about android getting quad core optimized
if the reports of users owning the xl complaining about slow performance in HD gaming means anything
than really I give up, u r misinformed
you go get him tiger
Very happy with my One X.Quality is good as well and it saves me from playing with the equalizer to find the perfect setting that is...Beats is just a gimmick all along anyway and nothing special but anyways in regards to the sound i could not be happier...good sound, great performance wise now i have tweaked the hell out of it and well happy bunny
if you are really that freaked out then speak to HTC and get findings what they say to you and then post the outcome...no need to go by what one said over the net..at the end of the day is what users say and counts how they are experiencing things not just by what one person said on a blog site...so if a guy on a blog site said it was good to jump off a cliff does not mean cause he said it it is cool to do
BarryH_GEG said:
Wow, you sure put a lot of weight in one person's opinion. If you read the masthead the article's an editorial, not a review. You or I could submit something totally opposite and it would be published.
First, Beats is s/w sound enhancement so I don't think that's your beef. Second, the DAC is just one component that determines a devices sound quality. Even with a Wolfson DAC the international SGS3 is having issues. Here's 54 pages of discussion on their forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633685
The author of that article picked one state out of a dozen to compare. Here's the whole review. The SGS3 is better than the One X but not by much.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_vs_htc_one_x-review-759p7.php
I got to use a DoCoMo SGS3 for two days about a week ago and it's essentially the same phone as the U.S. versions. In comparing it to the One X it sounded a little brighter but the separation and range on the One X was significantly better. Volume on both was more than adequate and I didn't have to run either at anywhere near max to get decent volume. I compared them using a pair of Shure 530's. I'll say this about the SGS3 I played with, it was horrible at A2DP. It was flat with little range; worse than listening to XM. The One X has better A2DP than any device I've ever used.
Everyone's so freaked out about sound quality based on what they read.. Unless you're listening to lossless audio on headsets that cost several hundred dollars or outputting to home A/V systems that cost thousands all the subtleties being discussed are meaningless. Listening to128kb MP3's on $20 headsets the SGS3(s), One S, and One X will all sound the same.
As for being screwed by HTC and going after them, on what grounds? They never promised anything other than Beats and love it or hate it it's in there.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
---------- Post added at 08:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:57 AM ----------
hamdir said:
sigh if the one x mega I formation thread is not enough for u with endless facts, figures and comparisons about the tegra3 cpus an gpu against the dual s4
if the fleet of thd optimized games still can't convince u and the upcoming google nexus tablet to talk u in about android being quad core optimized
if the reports of users owning the xl complaining about slow performance in HD gaming
than really I give up, u r misinformed
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
people are forgetting as well mate we still do not have an ICS kernel or 3.x.x whatever you want to call it which will double the performance of the phone and basically give it a new lease of life
Beats audio means an equaliser. Get over it.
Fancy pancy pre set equaliser. Nothing more.
Yes that is right. It's a damn phone for God's sake. If you want audiophile quality, buy an MP3 player, load it with lossless files and play it through an amp onto good headphones.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
I think it depends on the type of music you're listening to. Rock and dance music sound much better on one X than on the 4s. Nvidia will be patching up their drivers to cut down the crackles and pops. The thing to remember is that this is a mobile phone, as is the gs3 and 4s, in the hifi world a moderate dac will cost $3000 and a good dac can cost multiple times this amount.
I have my one X connected to my Cyrus setup and it sounds awesome, I also use poweramp to boost the subdued midrange, it is the best sounding phone I have ever heard. My stock testing track is the album version of insomnia by faithless (uses more frequencies than any other track with extremely good separation). I personally think the one X sounds a tad warmer and better than the original cd through my cd8x.
Acoustic and more gentle classical are more difficult to achieve good results. If you listen to rock or electronica of any description the hoc international is amazing.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
hamdir said:
sigh if the one x mega I formation thread is not enough for u with endless facts, figures and comparisons about the tegra3 cpus an gpu against the dual s4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I saw the benchmarks and like I said the tegra scores high in synthetic benchmarks
if the fleet of thd optimized games still can't convince u and the upcoming google nexus tablet to talk u in about android getting quad core optimized
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not android or linux that need optimizing, it's the individual apps and games and that's something which still hasn't even happened under windows! Apperently it is very hard to write multithread apps
if the reports of users owning the xl complaining about slow performance in HD gaming means anything
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I haven't seen them, I don't game I mainly browse and I can say the one s feels smoother than the one x, although not so much anymore with the 2.x roms
btw I am very satisfied with my hox, I wouldnt trade it for any other phone, except the 32GB hoxl
godutch said:
It's not android or linux that need optimizing, it's the individual apps and games and that's something which still hasn't even happened under windows! Apperently it is very hard to write multithread apps
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
not even windows! :laugh: im a CG expert and i can tell you 90% of all my work software as well as chrome browser sips every last bit out of my 8 cores, so what are you talking about, you sound like you are still in 2005? everything is mulithreaded now especially current generation gaming as evident by the PS3 and Xbox360
the entire computing world is going further and further into a multi-core, multi-processor approach
as for my thread it was never about benchmarks but about real world usage, check this post to have a better idea if you have the time
all the performance issues of the One X are blamed on early troubled Tegra3 drivers which are much improved and solved in the NV3.1 kernel source and HTC's own software faults like the battery oriented ondemand governor and bloated sense launcher
we solved them in the 2.x ROMS, ultra rosie patch, NV3.1 based kernels and SetCPU performance profiles
this morning i was messing around with governors and my CPU got stuck in 1400mhz mode, i used it for over an hour until my battery alarmed me and you wont believe how incredible speedy and smooth this thing was
i was the most skeptical and worried about T3 but to be honest it done noting but surprise me
the main issue facing HTC to find to the balance between battery and performance or simply provide the user with performance profiles and let them decide
But don't expect a fraction of this drivers activity on a qualcomm platform, look up NOVA3 gameplay videos on the Sensation XE
Battery life is win on the s4 no one can deny this
I am planning on getting a Sprint Galaxy Nexus (have too many unused upgrade lines lol). And I was wondering how it performs on 720p 10bit video. From what I read it is able to play on MX Player, BS Player, Dice Player but I am more worried about performance. Some devices I hear have issues playing 10bit high action scenes so I want to know how it does. And if anyone has any experience with this?
I don't know but the nexus decodes 1080p video at the hardware level due to its chipset, not software like many phones. So it handles video playback like a champ.
RogerPodacter said:
I don't know but the nexus decodes 1080p video at the hardware level due to its chipset, not software like many phones. So it handles video playback like a champ.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think any phone can do hardware decoding of 10bit video. 8bit video even a 1ghz single core hummingbird can play back 1080p with hardware decoding. But I am more particularly interested in 10bit which is more then likely decoded via software.
gTen said:
I don't think any phone can do hardware decoding of 10bit video. 8bit video even a 1ghz single core hummingbird can play back 1080p with hardware decoding. But I am more particularly interested in 10bit which is more then likely decoded via software.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you point someone to where they can download a 10bit video and test it for you? (Maybe just a short clip?)
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
infazzdar said:
Can you point someone to where they can download a 10bit video and test it for you? (Maybe just a short clip?)
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK I found some samples online:
There are 2 10bit 720p samples here:
http://www.cccp-project.net/beta/test_files/
And there are some hi10 1080p samples here:
http://android.tnonline.net/Software/Video/Hi10P Software/
gTen said:
OK I found some samples online:
There are 2 10bit 720p samples here:
http://www.cccp-project.net/beta/test_files/
And there are some hi10 1080p samples here:
http://android.tnonline.net/Software/Video/Hi10P Software/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Downloading one now I'll let u know.
OK, those are mkvs and the stock video player can't play them.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
try vlc beta or mx player. H/W decoding might not work with these files but software playback could be fine in theory.
MX Player can decode 720p 10-bit (Hi10P) files using its software decoder but it's very slow. You'd better off reencoding them using Handbrake.
PS: Even without action scenes, 10-bit files lag on the GNex.
akira02rex said:
Downloading one now I'll let u know.
OK, those are mkvs and the stock video player can't play them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, stock won't play them. It would need MXplayer, BS Player, Dice Player or etc.
Hannes The Hun said:
try vlc beta or mx player. H/W decoding might not work with these files but software playback could be fine in theory.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well I am able to play back 10bit 720p on my Droid Charge so as far as playback it should be able to do it, the problem is performance. the droid charge isn't powerful enough unfortunately.
doomed151 said:
MX Player can decode 720p 10-bit (Hi10P) files using its software decoder but it's very slow. You'd better off reencoding them using Handbrake.
PS: Even without action scenes, 10-bit files lag on the GNex.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well if I am going to transcode then it kind of eliminates some of the purpose. Have you tried in MX Player to set it to use both cores? fast mode? 16 bit color depth? overclocking the phone? None of the above would help?
10-bit H.264 is pointless. The screen (most likely 6-bits per channel with dithering) can't even display that many colors.
Snowknight26 said:
10-bit H.264 is pointless. The screen (most likely 6-bits per channel with dithering) can't even display that many colors.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are other benefits to 10-bit. The compression gives higher quality and smaller file sizes. Also the screens last I checked are not crappy TN panels. Super AMOLED is more then capable of displaying all colors. Even the IPS screens on phone these days are Super IPS (not to be confused with eIPS) and should be capable of displaying 10bit color.
That the format of the video is what it is and transcoding is not an option. Hence why I am interested in performance.
Don't expect anything but horrible performance. 10-bit H.264 streams can't be hardware decoded by anything on the market and probably never will.
Most S-IPS panels are also 6-bit per channel with dithering. Very few are actually 8-bit. Now, as far as monitors go, unless you're willing to spend 10 times the price for a non-consumer model, you will not find anything that supports 10-bits per channel natively. The story holds true for phones, too. I don't believe there are any 10-bit screens and I'm sure there won't be any for years to come (again, unless you're spending thousands for a phone).
Snowknight26 said:
Don't expect anything but horrible performance. 10-bit H.264 streams can't be hardware decoded by anything on the market and probably never will.
Most S-IPS panels are also 6-bit per channel with dithering. Very few are actually 8-bit. Now, as far as monitors go, unless you're willing to spend 10 times the price for a non-consumer model, you will not find anything that supports 10-bits per channel natively. The story holds true for phones, too. I don't believe there are any 10-bit screens and I'm sure there won't be any for years to come (again, unless you're spending thousands for a phone).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
First of all Super AMOLED has full color support because its not an LCD. The only thing you need to do is calibrate the screen so its not saturated. If you take OLED decay asside OLED can give you perfect color reproduction batter then the best IPS screens. Of course overall 10bit ends up being converted to 8bit because the hardware needs to support it like ATI Firepro
Now for SIPS, name me one monitor that is 6bit. The low end monitors that are 6bit are eIPS which use FRC. S-IPS is at minimum 8bit.
But we are getting off topic here..all I want to do is playback 10bit content. I am well aware of the limitations and that the decoding will be software which goes back to my question. Is the nexus powerful enough for the job.
Just tried one of the sample vids with MX and VLC. VLC was stuck on the first frame and MX played it but what seemed like 1FPS. I overclocked my phone to 1812MHz and have FrancoKernel with 512MHz GPU. Set my governor to performance and still no go. Tweaked settings on MX and still no go.
Sorry OP but I'm pretty sure the GNex can't play it.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
danielsaenz said:
Just tried one of the sample vids with MX and VLC. VLC was stuck on the first frame and MX played it but what seemed like 1FPS. I overclocked my phone to 1812MHz and have FrancoKernel with 512MHz GPU. Set my governor to performance and still no go. Tweaked settings on MX and still no go.
Sorry OP but I'm pretty sure the GNex can't play it.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Which samples did you try, the 720p or the 1080p?
danielsaenz said:
Just tried one of the sample vids with MX and VLC. VLC was stuck on the first frame and MX played it but what seemed like 1FPS. I overclocked my phone to 1812MHz and have FrancoKernel with 512MHz GPU. Set my governor to performance and still no go. Tweaked settings on MX and still no go.
Sorry OP but I'm pretty sure the GNex can't play it.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
With those Specs sounds like you're trying to cook your phone lol. Higher isn't always better. Example, I installed Batman to my Transformer which was overclocked to 1400mhz and it lagged like crazy. Once I put it down to 1100 it ran a lot better. Maybe you might have to find the sweet spot for your phone.
Good friends, I wanted to know that such see the exynos 5420 processor, 3GB of ram the gpu mali T628 MP6? I mean for the future and so on? about games and stuff? it does not fall short on power, I just bought the tablet and love but I like to have years ... as you see?
One thing i miss is no hardware accelerated support for the new H.265 video codec over the H.264 codec we use now which makes the video file up to 50% smaller they can be played, but only using the cpu to do software decoding, and not gpu hardware decoding which use more power to decode them.
Also no native ac3 audio decoding for the stock video player without rooting the tablet, older tablets have ac3 support but it seems Samsung cheapen out on the royalty's to use the Dolby ac3 codec.
John.
first of all, there is no such thing as future proof gadget. As technology have become advanced day by day so present will become old in the future. BUT, as to date, tab S have the highest spec among all tablet from all manufacture and because of its lightweight, it's portable enough to be brought anywhere