US/CAN version in Europe - Nokia Lumia 900

Hi,
I was wondering if I would have any limitations using a ATT / Rogers phone in Europe (Austria)?
What worries me a bit is the different model numbers and specs (RM-808 in US/CAN vs. RM-823).
Seems HSDPA is not supported on 900Mhz in the RM-808 and according to the Rogers website their Lumia 900 does not support HSDPA on 2100Mhz either whereas ATT's Lumia 900 supports HSDPA on 2100Mhz.
gsmarena RM-808
gsmarena RM-823
Rogers Spec
ATT Spec
sorry I can't post the links as a new member
I then found a old posting telling a bit about the used frequencies for HSDPA
Europe: 2100 MHz, England 2100, 900 MHz
Asia: 2100 MHz
Australia: 2100,850 MHz
America: 850, 1700,1900 MHz
So if that is right I guess the Rogers Lumia 900 will not work on European HSDPA networks (only on the 2G)?
Or is the Rogers website just missing this detail as the model number is the same so the hardware should be identical?
I don't care to much about HSDPA 21 or 42 Mbps as there might not be a huge difference in every day use as the networks do not provide anything close to the theoretical speed.

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Is there really 2 versions of xperia s? (lt26i and lt26a)

In the development thread DooMLoRD mentioned that the phone comes in two versions. There seems to be confilicting info about this. I have seen sites say it is quad band HSDPA and there is not 2 different models and only the lt26i. I would like to import to the USA and use on ATT 3g. It looks like the lt26i will work on att 3g. Below is the info listed in the development section of the site.
Model number:
The Xperia S has model number as LT26 and has two models LT26i and LT26a. They differ in the spectrum of frequencies supported for 3G/WCDMA http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_s-4369.php
LT26i - HSDPA 900 / 2100
LT26a - HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
The items passing the fcc was the LT26i and it was listed at quad band UMTS/HSDPA
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...alledFromFrame=N&application_id=917709&fcc_id
It is also mentioned in this engadget article
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/27/sony-xperia-s-jogs-past-the-fcc-carrying-plenty-of-atandt-t-mobi/
I've pre-ordered the Xperia S LT26i from here. If you scroll down a bit and switch to the specification tab you'll see this:
GSM/GPRS Yes
Frequencies 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Speed GPRS up to 86kbps, EDGE up to 237 kbps
3G/HSPA Yes
Frequencies 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
Speed HSDPA Up to 14.4Mbps, HSUPA Up to 5.8Mbps
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It seems like it supports both frequencies... It'll surly work in Europe right? I live in Israel using Cellcom, I hope it'll work fine.
I am wondering the same thing too!
I live in Canada and I want to get this phone but I know Canada will be the last to get it.
Is the ' i ' version going to work for me in Canada?
Please help!
Thank you.
check the Xperia S whitepaper
http://dl-www.sonymobile.com/cws/download/1/105/035/2/1327908899/Xperia_S_WP_2.pdf
"LT26i UMTS HSPA 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900"
so it's safe to say there is going to be only one version?
if so, I will order my Xperia S and start using it in Canada!!
From what I have seen for the last three months, only one version which is quad band. Today I ordered one from ebay shipping from Hong Kong and I should be receiving it next week sometimes around Thursday. I will report back once I have it.
EDIT:
for people interested, this is the place I ordered it from http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-Ericsson-Xperia-S-LT26i-Unlocked-12mp-32GB-Android-Phone-White?item=150770279921&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DRPSI%252BSIC.NPJS%26itu%3DUCP%252BUA%252BMAGEXP%252BI%26otn%3D12%26pmod%3D190644185862%26po%3DLPV%252BLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6745036511139896139#ht_3032wt_1396
wing_zero8556 said:
check the Xperia S whitepaper
http://dl-www.sonymobile.com/cws/download/1/105/035/2/1327908899/Xperia_S_WP_2.pdf
"LT26i UMTS HSPA 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900"
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This.
White paper clearly states HSPA 850/1900 is included. And FWIW GSMArena corrected the specifications page to reflect this http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_s-4369.php
LaughinGoh said:
so it's safe to say there is going to be only one version?
if so, I will order my Xperia S and start using it in Canada!!
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I have ordered one from Clove in the UK. It should be shipped Mon or Tue.
I will report back once I either trim down my SIM card or buy a micro SIM.
I am on Telus now running an unlocked generic Xperia Arc.
Cheers
I can confirm it is a quad band. It supports UMTS/HSPA Bands 1/2/5/8. See screenshot from my service menu.
PS: the phone is unbelievably awesome.
I know this thread is old.. but my xperia s only gets edge internet conection..! D: No 3g at all! I'm in Bolivia btw. With "a" versions of other xperia phones I was able to get 3g internet connection.. why is this happening?
The 'a' and the'i' signify different versions of Baseband. The baseband determines which 3g network you connect to ! Make sure you pick up the right instrument otherwise you wont be able to connect to 3G. Google "3G baseband" + your Country and then see which model, the a or the i supports that baseband Wrong baseband => No 3g

[Q] Difference between LTE and non-LTE, US and European version and LTE frequencies ?

Dear xda Members and / or galaxy note 2 Users,
I'm a bit confused about the various versions of the Note 2.
In a few days I'll visit Florida and intend to buy the LTE version from Walmart.
ht.tp://ww w.walmart. com/ip/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-II-Smartphone-Titanium-Gray/22374238
(I don't know if shoplinks are allowed, but you can't buy it directly here and i hope you can accept it anyway this time)
However, I need to know whether the phone works in Europe/Germany and with which communication standards.
Is there a difference between the US and European GT-N7105?
on ht.tp://e n.wikipedia. org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_Note_II i found various versions called
AWS phone
CDMA/EV-DO phone
TD-SCDMA phone
Dual-cell HSPA phone.
and the LTE where they tell that it would be kind of an "International" phone.
"Most of the variants support GSM/GPRS/EDGE in the 850 Mhz, 900 Mhz, 1.9 Ghz, and 2.1 Ghz bands; and UMTS/HSPA+21 in 850 Mhz, 900 Mhz, 1.9 Ghz, and 2.1 Ghz"
Does the version i found on the walmart page support UMTS? there are only specifications that it can handle GSM and LTE, but not which LTE Bands.
(I think I need support for 800 MHz, 1800 MHz and/or 2600 MHz in Western Europe)
correct me if i'm wrong with any statement and enlighten the confusion for me if pssible
Thanks in advance !
PS: I'm not allowed to post outside links here, so I addet space characters before .com and .org and in the www and the "en" and dots between the ht.tp's. remove them before copying.

Will the LTE version bought in the US work in the UK

I see that the T-Mobile LTE version is available in the US on the play store. It is significantly cheaper than in the UK.
I bought the v1 WiFi nexus 7 in the US and had no issues. If I buy the LTE version from the US can I assume that I can use it on a UK mobile network without issue? I presume both are gsm and there is no issue?
Thanks
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4
aidanbree said:
If I buy the LTE version from the US can I assume that I can use it on a UK mobile network without issue? I presume both are gsm and there is no issue?
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Even GSM networks operate on different frequencies on different continents. LTE networks may have other frequencies than GSM networks.
I found a (german) comparisation list for LTE frequencies. For US, there are 700, 1700, 1900 and 2100 MHz listed; for UK there are 800, 1800 and 2600 MHz noted.
So, if you buy an US version, it will be useless in UK. Besides the useability, you may have to pay taxes on import, additional to p&p. Will it still be cheaper then?
HSishi said:
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For US, there are 700, 1700, 1900 and 2100 MHz listed; for UK there are 800, 1800 and 2600 MHz noted.
.../...
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For France, same frequencies than UK.
We will use someday 700 MHz also.
Some of us are waitin 4 an Euro LTE Nexus 7.
I found something about the Nexus 7 ... on http://www.google.com/nexus/7/ .
Scroll down until you see a link "Tech Specs". Open it and scroll a bit down; all GSM, UMTS and LTE frequencies are listed for different world areas.
The US and the EU version share most LTE frequency cpabilities, but the US version can operate on 700 and 750 MHz (which the EU device can't use) while the EU one can operate on 800 and 2600 MHz (which the US device can't use).
So it depends on your carrier's frequencies if you can operate an US device in UK or not.
HSishi said:
I found something about the Nexus 7 ... on http://www.google.com/nexus/7/ .
Scroll down until you see a link "Tech Specs". Open it and scroll a bit down; all GSM, UMTS and LTE frequencies are listed for different world areas.
The US and the EU version share most LTE frequency cpabilities, but the US version can operate on 700 and 750 MHz (which the EU device can't use) while the EU one can operate on 800 and 2600 MHz (which the US device can't use).
So it depends on your carrier's frequencies if you can operate an US device in UK or not.
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My brother is over in the US next week and could therefore bring it back without P&P and most likely other charges.
In the UK the price is 320 GBP so the saving is around 100GBP with the currency conversion.
Currently I have my mobile with T-Mobile and a sim that I use in a mifi on Three. I am looking to move the Three mifi sim into the Nexus but I don't think that looks like it would work as it states they will use 800 and 1800. I presume that both frequencies are used?
The US device can't use the 800 MHz band, but the 1800. Maybe your carrier operates LTE at 1800, maybe not. Can't say that from here (Germany).
Going to take a chance. The US price for the LTE is cheaper than the WiFi only in the UK. Will advise how I get on
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Same here Czech rep, 32 gb lte is the same price than 16 gb wifi here. But i need the 3G/4G internet can't risk it i must know
Aidenbree: this is exactly what i was thinking of doing too, so thanks for asking the question! I'm also on Three and would be really interested to hear how you get on. £100 saving is worth thinking about!
are they have different hardware ?
North America:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 700/750/850/1700/1800/1900/2100 MHZ (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/13/17)
Europe:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 800/850/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 MHz (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/20)
or only radio software different?
if they just use different radio, it may work by change radio
ygvuhb said:
are they have different hardware ?
North America:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 700/750/850/1700/1800/1900/2100 MHZ (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/13/17)
Europe:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 800/850/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 MHz (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/20)
or only radio software different?
if they just use different radio, it may work by change radio
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Surprisingly, the radio software is the same, in fact everything software wise is identical between both devices, there is but a single firmware for both devices. I am not even sure if the US version can't technically use band 7 and vice/versa, has anyone tried to connect to a LTE network in the EU using a US LTE Nexus 7 ? Maybe those specs are just "limited" to comply with FCC/EU regulations/certifications (Paying for the CE certification for a specific frequency can be expensive)
If there is a difference then some flag must be set hardware wise to tell the radio what frequencies it can tune to.
mathieulh said:
Surprisingly, the radio software is the same, in fact everything software wise is identical between both devices, there is but a single firmware for both devices. I am not even sure if the US version can't technically use band 7 and vice/versa, has anyone tried to connect to a LTE network in the EU using a US LTE Nexus 7 ? Maybe those specs are just "limited" to comply with FCC/EU regulations/certifications (Paying for the CE certification for a specific frequency can be expensive)
If there is a difference then some flag must be set hardware wise to tell the radio what frequencies it can tune to.
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omg
the radio is the same
seem they fix the band though hardware
any chance the software detect the mobile services provider to decide using which band

[Q] Which LTE Bands

Hello;
I just bought an M8 from Turkey and I want to know which frequencies for 3G and LTE are supported. There is not enough info on the package or on the website. Is there an app that shows which frequencies my M8 supports? I couldn't find any.
emreeken said:
Hello;
I just bought an M8 from Turkey and I want to know which frequencies for 3G and LTE are supported. There is not enough info on the package or on the website. Is there an app that shows which frequencies my M8 supports? I couldn't find any.
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All the operators in Turkey use the same band according to the link below.
Operator Spectrum
AVEA 2600 MHz
Vodafone 2600 MHz
Turkcell 2600 MHz
http://www.4gltemall.com/blog/tag/4g-lte-bands-in-turkey/
HTC One M8 Specs (TAKEN FROM HTC WEBSITE)
4G - LTE:
EMEA: 800/900/1800/2600 MHz <======== (EMEA= Europe. Middle East and Africa)
Asia: 700/900/1800/2100/2600 MHz
AT&T: 700/850/AWS/1800/1900/2600 MHz
Sprint: FDD 800/1900 MHz , TDD 2600 MHz
Verizon: 700/AWS/1800/2600 MHz
TMUS: 700/AWS MHz

Difference models?

Can someone tell us the difference between all Nokia 6 2018 models please?
TA-1068
TA-1045
etc...
Is there a specific model for 'Worldwide' like Nexus/Pixel?
Is there a Europe version?
...
...
THANKS!
Very interested in the subject.. Also, if information is available, What models are being sold in what markets...
1045 is the US model.
I'm using one now, I got from eBay. Works great on Cricket, ya know other than it being Cricket. Lol
I know but what's the differences?
I got the TA-1043 model. Ordered it from Bol in the Netherlands and live in Belgium.
What, are, the differences?
nobody knows... it's like the cloud )
Normally it has to do with the modem, bundled apps and charger wall socket type...
Does the US TA-1045 model really have 4GB of ram? Or is it a typo and it has 3GB?
A different wall charger has never changed the model name lol!
The goal of this topic is if some people KNOW the differences between models, not telling what model you have lol
All I know is that I have a TA-1050 model here in the UK and it is perilously close to being 3 months behind with security updates and is still on 8.0 - SIM free and not tied to any carrier.
So much for Android One.
I bought the Chinese version which comes with 4GB Ram and 64GB Memory (TA-1054) .
Sadly i figured out, that the Chinse Version isn't part of the Android One Program.
It seems like a Nokia specialized playstore Custom Rom.
Further im missing the "ZEISS" Brand, which could mean, the Lense was produced by someone else.
But that's just a guess.
Edit: I just realized, that the Display comes with just 320ppi instead of 403ppi
I just got my TA-1045 from walmart. Despite the website saying 4GB, the box itself says 3/32. In settings, it says total memory is 2.9GB.
I just chatted with a support guy from NOKIA, asking for the codes of the non-Chinese (international?) versions. He provided me with the following codes:
Single SIM models:
TA-1016, TA-1050
Dual SIM models:
TA-1043, TA-1045, TA-1068,TA-1089
bsivanov said:
I just chatted with a support guy from NOKIA, asking for the codes of the non-Chinese (international?) versions. He provided me with the following codes:
Single SIM models:
TA-1016, TA-1050
Dual SIM models:
TA-1043, TA-1045, TA-1068,TA-1089
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Thanks!
so the question is, what are the differences between TA-1043, TA-1045, TA-1068,TA-1089...
I saw in ebay and amazon the Nokia 6.1 TA-1068 4GB/64 who sold from US, But with headline :Inertational Stock No Warranty" so maybe the 4GB RAM Dual SIM Inernational / Europ Model is TA-1068.
The bands, by amazon, are:
3G WCDMA B1 / B2 / B5 / B8 ; 4G LTE B1 / B3 / B4 / B5 / B7 / B8 / B20 / B28 / B34 / B38 / B39 / B40 / B41
Is possible now to pre-order the 3GB from B&H but without model name, with this specs:
GSM 2G GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
GSM 3G/3.5G UMTS: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz
4G LTE LTE: 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 17, 20, 28, 38 Bands
OK thanks.
OMG why so many models Nokia lol
Puppetmaster81 said:
I bought the Chinese version which comes with 4GB Ram and 64GB Memory (TA-1054) .
Sadly i figured out, that the Chinse Version isn't part of the Android One Program.
It seems like a Nokia specialized playstore Custom Rom.
Further im missing the "ZEISS" Brand, which could mean, the Lense was produced by someone else.
But that's just a guess.
Edit: I just realized, that the Display comes with just 320ppi instead of 403ppi
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It' not true, it has the same ppi (401). the only things that change between ta-1054 and others are the android 7.1.1 and frequency bands.
edit: ta-1054 hasn't zeiss lens
Check on Kimovil, i can't post links now
badbob001 said:
I just got my TA-1045 from walmart. Despite the website saying 4GB, the box itself says 3/32. In settings, it says total memory is 2.9GB.
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Can you please take a picture of the bands? Maybe it's same as B&H model so 1045 is 3GB dual SIM US model.
nachum37 said:
Is possible now to pre-order the 3GB from B&H but without model name, with this specs:
GSM 2G GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
GSM 3G/3.5G UMTS: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz
4G LTE LTE: 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 17, 20, 28, 38 Bands
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---------- Post added at 05:55 ---------- Previous post was at 05:45 ----------
I'm found this answers:
https://www.amazon.com/ask/questions/TxULKW3SZ6SOA9/?source=allQuestionsPage
https://www.amazon.com/ask/questions/Tx1BBIFU68UTRL4/?source=allQuestionsPage
So yes, the 1045 is 3GB Dual sim US Model.
---------- Post added at 06:19 ---------- Previous post was at 05:55 ----------
1016 is the 3GB single sim US Model:
https://nokiapoweruser.com/ta-1016-ta-1045-us-bound-nokia-7-6-2018-variants-appear-fcc/
https://nokiapoweruser.com/nokia-6-...045-confirm-geekbench-canadian-certification/
The bands are need to be like 1045.
1050 it's EU / Global 3GB Dual SIM(?) model.
http://phonedb.net/index.php?m=devi...l_sim_td-lte_32gb__new_nokia_6__hmd_nokia_6.1
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-nokia-6-2018-eu#device-profile
https://www.mobosdata.com/nokia-6-2018-ta-1050
The bands are:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
WCDMA: 850, 900, 1900, 2100
LTE: 700, 800, 850, 900, 1700, 1800, 1900, 2100, 2600
TD-LTE: 2300, 2500, 2600
TA-1043 is 3GB Dual SIM model for Russia, Middle East & Asia.
https://m.gsmarena.com/new_nokia_devices__ta1043_and_ta1046_get_certified_in_russia-news-29507.php
https://www.lowyat.net/2018/158422/...oming-to-malaysia-including-the-nokia-7-plus/
https://4pda.ru/devdb/nokia_6_2018
Bands:
GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900), LTE (700, 800, 850, 900, 1800, 2100, 2600), UMTS (850, 900, 1900, 2100)
1089 is the India 3GB Dual SIM.
https://nokiapoweruser.com/nokia-6-...o-with-april-security-update-list-of-markets/
https://www.onlymobiles.com/mobile/new-nokia-6-2018/2456/black-copper
Bands:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
3G/WCDMA 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz
4G/LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 / 2300 MHz (B40)

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