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Is this phone capable of both 3g & 4g speeds, I mean does the "3g" iconactually show up on areas where T-Mobile's HSPA+ is not available? I ask this because I had a GS4G & it was dissapointing not have 3g, it would only jump from 4g to edge, Thanks in advance people!!
ps. I ask because im planning on picking it up if it does, if it doesnt then ill jump over to the Galaxy Nexus.
From what I have noticed, my carrier (Mobilicity) only has HSPA, not HSPA+, so I am always on 3g. I hope that answers your question!
Btw, the speeds I get on 3g are around 3-5Mbps
I've been on everything from GPRS to 4G on this phone, so yes, it does all the various levels of data.
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Is this phone capable of both 3g & 4g speeds, I mean does the "3g" iconactually show up on areas where T-Mobile's HSPA+ is not available? I ask this because I had a GS4G & it was dissapointing not have 3g, it would only jump from 4g to edge, Thanks in advance people!!
ps. I ask because im planning on picking it up if it does, if it doesnt then ill jump over to the Galaxy Nexus.
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I've seen 3g pop up. But before you think that your sgs4g didn't have 3g,, did you ever run network tracker? The icon can be deceiving mate.
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Why does it matter . If your on Tmobile any data you use counts to your cap . I.gues using only 3g will prolong it .
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T-Mobile shows you on 4G when you're using 3G. Check your about phone. UMTS = 3G
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if you have a 2gb, 5gb, or 10gb plan from T-mobile, once you pass your cap, speeds are reduced to 3G for the rest of your billing cycle.
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if you have a 2gb, 5gb, or 10gb plan from T-mobile, once you pass your cap, speeds are reduced to 3G for the rest of your billing cycle.
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i'm not sure about being reduced to 3g speed. I reached my cap for the first time last month. my data speed dropped to around 200kbps (edge speeds) versus around 17mbps (4g speed) before getting throttled. i wish it would drop to 3g speeds. that's not so bad. edge speed is really slow compared to 4g.
Unless you have a custom kernel, this phone will only show 4G or E. It is designed that way, so that people don't but a 4G phone and only see 3G if they live in a UMTS area only. It's just for marketing. You can see the 4G icon and get anywhere from 1 mbps to 15 mbps.
And the throttle speed is definitely not 3G speeds. I wish. It is capped at 0.06 mbps
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Hi fellow nexus users, I have a UK handset that I got from handtec I've been using on tmobile for the past couple weeks and I really enjoy it.
However my family wants to move our plan to ATT asap for various reasons.
Is there anything I should know? We all have unlocked phones (and nobody but me cares about 3g/4g) so I want to go month to month, I don't want to get into a contract.
Any plans that you guys think are good, and will work well with the galaxy nexus?
We're lookin for about a 1000 minutes shared between the 4 of us, data plans on all phones, no texting (We all use google talk or bbm).
I just did the same thing. Switched from Tmo to ATT
Im on the 450min plan with unlimited messaging. Unlimited messaging gives you unlimited mobile to mobile minutes for any cell phone on any network. I rarely if ever call landlines so this plan works for me - all my calling is free and i barely dent the 450 min allotted for other calls.
Im also on the 2GB dataplan. ATT does not reject the IMEI in the GN: they just add a generic smartphone data plan to your phone. If you want a "4G" plan you need to have the ATT rep input the IMEI of a 4G phone such as the Atrix. With the non 4G plan in Miami Im getting around 3down and 1up pretty consistently whereas on TMo i was getting 3-4up and .8-1 down (only outside, never indoors).
If you bring your device in to the store you can sign up for service and not be on a contract. They only bind you if you get a subsidized phone. I am currently contract free. As an added benefit, I no longer drop coverage walking into buildings and ATT doesnt have the MMS bug that TMo does.
Wondering why would you ever switch from T-Mobile to AT&T if you're in a metro area. T-Mobile has much cheaper plans, better data speeds, and full duplex voice.
I'm not sure if you guys did the right thing, but good luck.
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Wondering why would you ever switch from T-Mobile to AT&T if you're in a metro area. T-Mobile has much cheaper plans, better data speeds, and full duplex voice.
I'm not sure if you guys did the right thing, but good luck.
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T-Mobile does have cheaper plans but does not always have better data speeds (location dependant). It's really hit or miss speed wise in Chicago. Both networks get bogged down by congestion. Recently I haven't seen large deviations in speed in Chicago, Charlotte, Newark, Atlanta or Denver, but YMMV.
I see almost identical data speeds usually between the two carriers with AT&T being a bit more consistent and T-Mobile peaking a little higher but overall being less consistent.
There are instances where T-Mobile's backhaul / lesser congestion has helped. Atlantic City saw around 7mbps with T-Mobile and only 3 mbps on AT&T at the airport but T-Mobile also had some nasty dead spots and tower issues there that caused AT&T to be a more effective option outside of the airport. I was stuck on a 3G connection that was slower than Edge (I literally forced the phone into Edge so that the data connection was usable).
The *much* bigger advantage that AT&T can offer is using the 850 Mhz spectrum over T-Mobile's 1700/2100 combo for 3G/4G. 850 penetrates building much better. With T-Mobile I'd often drop to edge inside of buildings whereas I'll stay on 3G/4G (HSPA) with AT&T. AT&T does not utilize 850 everywhere, but where they do the signal penetration is much appreciated.
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T-Mobile does have cheaper plans but does not always have better data speeds (location dependant). It's really hit or miss speed wise in Chicago. Both networks get bogged down by congestion. Recently I haven't seen large deviations in speed in Chicago, Charlotte, Newark, Atlanta or Denver, but YMMV.
I see almost identical data speeds usually between the two carriers with AT&T being a bit more consistent and T-Mobile peaking a little higher but overall being less consistent.
There are instances where T-Mobile's backhaul / lesser congestion has helped. Atlantic City saw around 7mbps with T-Mobile and only 3 mbps on AT&T at the airport but T-Mobile also had some nasty dead spots and tower issues there that caused AT&T to be a more effective option outside of the airport. I was stuck on a 3G connection that was slower than Edge (I literally forced the phone into Edge so that the data connection was usable).
The *much* bigger advantage that AT&T can offer is using the 850 Mhz spectrum over T-Mobile's 1700/2100 combo for 3G/4G. 850 penetrates building much better. With T-Mobile I'd often drop to edge inside of buildings whereas I'll stay on 3G/4G (HSPA) with AT&T. AT&T does not utilize 850 everywhere, but where they do the signal penetration is much appreciated.
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I agree 100%. I could get faster speed tests with TMo standing outside - Inside buildings I can barely break 2mbps down. I get much more consistant results with ATT everywhere. The cost didn't seem worth the lesser service.
I drop from full bars coverage to 1 bar EDGE / no service the minute i walk into my one story office building at work. At my desk I often miss messages (i get them later than I need to) and cant make calls. With full 3G signal I type in a website and it takes a while to start loading, in comparison ATT is almost instant
Maybe theoretically TMo is a good deal but in South Florida I get much much better service with ATT. I've switched between them a few times (whenever I see a phone I like) and Im sure I made the right decision.
Does anyone know of any official plans by att to offer the GN subsidized? I know that if anyone actually knew anything, it would be reposted everywhere, but even a glimmer of hope will be welcome.
In NYC metro area T-Mobile is running circles around AT&T's network in terms of data speeds, latency and especially voice quality. I've seen speeds approaching 30mbps on T-Mobile's 42mbps DC-HSPA handsets and 18mpbs on my GN using $30 PrePaid plan.
AT&T crawls down to EDGE speeds and sometimes time outs during the peak hours when the data becomes unusable. Dropped calls are day to day reality, and I've grown accustomed to that and never ever make important calls using AT&T's network. Plus the plans are almost twice as high. Not recommended.
What is the $30 prepaid plan you use? How many minutes do you get with that?
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What is the $30 prepaid plan you use? How many minutes do you get with that?
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100 minutes, unlimited data (5GB of 4G speeds then lowered to EDGE), unlimited texting, pre paid no commitment. It's honestly my dream plan.
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100 minutes, unlimited data (5GB of 4G speeds then lowered to EDGE), unlimited texting, pre paid no commitment. It's honestly my dream plan.
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Could you link me to this plan?
What do you mean by "Full Duplex Voice" on T-Mo vs ATT
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100 minutes, unlimited data (5GB of 4G speeds then lowered to EDGE), unlimited texting, pre paid no commitment. It's honestly my dream plan.
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Yeah it's the ONLY reason I was willing to buy an unlocked Nexus and go T-mobile, was going to wait for VZ.
I came from Virgin Mobile's 300min version, I would call the t-mobile plan perfect if it was 200 minute, but it's still an insane deal.
As is, I'm using groove IP to make calls out when I'm in wifi in order to save minutes in case I'm out and I need to use my voice minutes.
But $30 for 5GB of H+ is just awesome sauce!
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans
I'm on $30 plan myself. At home I use GrooveIP on wifi for VOIP and no minutes used (technically only needing minutes outside of my place).
Saving HUNDREDS of dollars a year is worth it over the slightly slower speeds I get on Tmo over ATT. Also helps pay for the price of the GN easily.
Plus I'm using a company that is much more customer-friendly. Lower plan prices when off contract are something to be supported.
I just wish T-Mobile had International Data plans. I travel to Europe once a month, and $15/mb for international data roaming insane when you can buy 125mb international data plan from AT&T for $50/mo.
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What do you mean by "Full Duplex Voice" on T-Mo vs ATT
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It has to do with how the receive (RX) and transmission (TX) audio are handled. You can either have both RX and TX on 100% of the time or they can be multiplexed into one channel to save bandwidth. It's a misnomer because half-duplex usually means something like this:
Caller1: Hello. Over.
Caller2: Hello. Over.
Caller1: What are...(interrupted)
Caller2: Are you... oh, sorry... Go ahead.
Caller1: What?
Caller2: Huh? Oh. Go ahead! Over.
Caller1: I hate this AT&T half-duplex CB radio crap! When will they get full-duplex??? Over.
Caller2: Can you repeat that? Over.
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I just wish T-Mobile had International Data plans. I travel to Europe once a month, and $15/mb for international data roaming insane when you can buy 125mb international data plan from AT&T for $50/mo.
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If you're there that often, I'd suggest a prepaid SIM. It's not as if AT&T international data plans are economical. I racked up close to $400 of roaming last month for a two week trip to London. All expensed, so no biggie. But it's still pants down, no lube.
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If you're there that often, I'd suggest a prepaid SIM. It's not as if AT&T international data plans are economical. I racked up close to $400 of roaming last month for a two week trip to London. All expensed, so no biggie. But it's still pants down, no lube.
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I'm in the same boat , all expensed , so don't really care. I don't like having multiple phone #'s when over there. (travel to Switzerland 1 week every month)
tmobile is awesome if i stay outside or never travel. But then, so is cricket.
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100 minutes, unlimited data (5GB of 4G speeds then lowered to EDGE), unlimited texting, pre paid no commitment. It's honestly my dream plan.
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Do you have any idea on how bad AT&T throttles speeds on their unlimited data plan?
Hello
as far as I know this phone can handle the att 3g/4g frequencies if unlocked ..
Does your straigttalk SIM(the att compatabile one) or true att SIM work well with it if anybody is using them ?
What about data speeds ?
Thanks
Please no 2 words answers
Thanks again
me.. me .. i do.. i do lol
Hello. I have great news for anyone that wants to use the Tmobile GalaxySII with a better prepaid service.
I bought the T989 new and then bought a Tmobile Sim card for about $15 from StraightTalk.com
I put the new sim in and changed the APN to StraightTalk apn. It works fabulous.
I get full 4g speeds all day 24/7 and the best thing is I get no throttle.
Tmobile turned me on with there prices but I didnt notice that they throttle there bandwidth to a stupid slow 2g speed after a certain bandwidth usage.
WHY would any company throttle the internet speed with the purpose to have a smart phone is fast internet? The speed went from 4g to 2g. Not 3g. We are talking 56k modem speed. This pissed me off so bad, I went with StraightTalk just 2 weeks after I activated the T989 with Tbobile using there prepaid. Well, not only is Tmobile prepaid $5 more than the StraightTalk service, But the Tmobile service, as I said is very inferior to StraightTalk.
No Im not a representative of either of these companies.
I did allot of research about using this phone with any sim I wanted and compared price vs performance of what I get for the money.
I can tell you that you will not find any prepaid service cheaper and with unlimited everything when using with the T989.
Ive compared ATT, Verizon, Virgin, Boost, Net10. All of um I could find. None were cheaper and none offered so much. I ended up sticking with Tmobile service cause of the speed they use vs ATT. I couldnt even use the phone with other services due to the technology they offered. Some services are not compatible with this particular Gs2 model. I suggest you use it with Tmobile towers to get the full performance of the internet. Tmobile uses a specific technology to get full internet speeds, which I think is better than ATT. .
I really wanted to stay with Tmobile, but I gotta tell ya, they sucked. MANY people complain about getting just edge speed when using the Tmobile prepaid service. No kidding! Its cause they purposely throttle the speed! Look at teh small print on there advertisements! They have a few different so called unlimited plans. The price goes stupid high to like $70 just to get full bandwidth speeds to decent usage. With StraightTalk its always full bandwidth and the kicker is that they use Tmobile towers! They dont throttle the speed at all. I dont get anything lower than 9mb down and 3.5 to 4 gb up.
Its $45 a month.Vs anywhere from 50 to $70 depending on the useage for internet you want.
Why did I choose this phone vs other cool phones ?
Well.
THIS phone , when properly setup with apps or a certain rom, can tether wirelessly to your laptop with NO additional tether charges ( which Tmobile charges I think $15 extra ). SO if you are in an area where you have no wifi and need to use your laptop for internet, do what I do. use the GS2 at a wireless router and get very fast internet speeds! Its no extra charge and a quick solution to no wifi.
Just remember to use the FOXFI appto do this no extra charge tethering. No special rom or hacks needed.
Check my other thread about the roms Ive used.
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Hello. I have great news for anyone that wants to use the Tmobile GalaxySII with a better prepaid service.
I bought the T989 new and then bought a Tmobile Sim card for about $15 from StraightTalk.com
I put the new sim in and changed the APN to StraightTalk apn. It works fabulous.
I get full 4g speeds all day 24/7 and the best thing is I get no throttle.
Tmobile turned me on with there prices but I didnt notice that they throttle there bandwidth to a stupid slow 2g speed after a certain bandwidth usage.
WHY would any company throttle the internet speed with the purpose to have a smart phone is fast internet? The speed went from 4g to 2g. Not 3g. We are talking 56k modem speed. This pissed me off so bad, I went with StraightTalk just 2 weeks after I activated the T989 with Tbobile using there prepaid. Well, not only is Tmobile prepaid $5 more than the StraightTalk service, But the Tmobile service, as I said is very inferior to StraightTalk.
No Im not a representative of either of these companies.
I did allot of research about using this phone with any sim I wanted and compared price vs performance of what I get for the money.
I can tell you that you will not find any prepaid service cheaper and with unlimited everything when using with the T989.
Ive compared ATT, Verizon, Virgin, Boost, Net10. All of um I could find. None were cheaper and none offered so much. I ended up sticking with Tmobile service cause of the speed they use vs ATT. I couldnt even use the phone with other services due to the technology they offered. Some services are not compatible with this particular Gs2 model. I suggest you use it with Tmobile towers to get the full performance of the internet. Tmobile uses a specific technology to get full internet speeds, which I think is better than ATT. .
I really wanted to stay with Tmobile, but I gotta tell ya, they sucked. MANY people complain about getting just edge speed when using the Tmobile prepaid service. No kidding! Its cause they purposely throttle the speed! Look at teh small print on there advertisements! They have a few different so called unlimited plans. The price goes stupid high to like $70 just to get full bandwidth speeds to decent usage. With StraightTalk its always full bandwidth and the kicker is that they use Tmobile towers! They dont throttle the speed at all. I dont get anything lower than 9mb down and 3.5 to 4 gb up.
Its $45 a month.Vs anywhere from 50 to $70 depending on the useage for internet you want.
Why did I choose this phone vs other cool phones ?
Well.
THIS phone , when properly setup with apps or a certain rom, can tether wirelessly to your laptop with NO additional tether charges ( which Tmobile charges I think $15 extra ). SO if you are in an area where you have no wifi and need to use your laptop for internet, do what I do. use the GS2 at a wireless router and get very fast internet speeds! Its no extra charge and a quick solution to no wifi.
Just remember to use the FOXFI appto do this no extra charge tethering. No special rom or hacks needed.
Check my other thread about the roms Ive used.
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are u sure u get 4g ? on they website only say 3g
Is it possible to use the straighttalk via At and T? I have a tmobile phone but it has been blocked on their network (bought from craigslist) . I was wondering if it can be salvaged and used on at and t.
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Is it possible to use the straighttalk via At and T? I have a tmobile phone but it has been blocked on their network (bought from craigslist) . I was wondering if it can be salvaged and used on at and t.
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does it have the proper at&t bands or an at&t radio from the equivalent phone ...
if so you choose at&t compatible when you get the sim/apn from their website
Yeah, say that to your account getting terminated next week. Congratulations.
StraightTalk has a cap of 2GBS!!!! it depends on your luck, but if u get more than 4GBS, you will be suspended in the upcoming days.. T-mobile's monthly4g plans are the only way to get 5GBs for only $30.....
Have fun getting terminated.
There's a big thread about this in the galaxy nexus forums. I own both devices so I hop back & forth between the 2. It is common knowledge that straight talk does not publish their data cap, but rather they kick you off the network. Streaming more than a couple of YouTube videos/day violates their terms of service. This being said, if straight talk is working out for you, good for you. It is a much cheaper alternative. Also, you mention a $5 more T-Mobile plan.... you do realize that the $50 tmo plan includes only 100mb at 4g speeds & then throttling... tmo does offer $60 unlimited talk/text & 2gb of 4g data...
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I've got t mobile's $30 with 5GB & a bunch of texts, enough for Mr anyway, but only 100 minutes. But I don't talk much
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I got T-Mobile 5g for $20 on android prefered plan. I thought 5g was $25.
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Couldn't find it. What are the details?
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I just called they don't do it anymore.
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Oh that sucks. Np tho, I still have 5gb for $30, which you can't get anywhere else.
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Look folks. Seriosuly. All this crap about Tmobile being better is bull****.
I know first hand cause I tried Tmobile with the GS2 then used it with Straight talk.
I still have it on Straighttalk. I installed a data counter. I can see the data I use on 4g vs wifi. I keep the useage down on the phone. I use about 2g a month. Wifi is much more. BUT the speeds is what is most important. Lets do a comparison.
Tmobile 50$ plan gets you *First 100MB at up to 4G speeds then goes to 2 g. There 60$ pan gets you ***First 2GB at up to 4G speeds. This plan is the same data you will get using StraightTalk but $15 more. And for 70$ with Tmobile you get ****First 5GB at up to 4G speeds. WHich is 25$ more and I must say when yoiu are on a budget it does make a difference. Now, I have done several speed tests and compaed my results to 4g and 3G. Then I compared it to my Wifi. Here are the results. My Wifi results show I get 20mb down and 2mb up. This is pretty accurate for what I pay for with my home internet. using just the phone and not wifi I get 4.5mb down and 1.7mb up. I use the speed.net Android app. Just do a search for speed test in android market. It looks like a big speedometer. I get no throttles. And Actually sometimes I get faster speeds on my cell 4g. Ive gotten upto 9mbs! No joke. Most people are getting at most around 2.1mb down on 4g networks. If youre lucky you will get really high 20mb down. WHat people dont understand is that Tmobile has a special channel they use for there data that provides better speeds. Called HSPA+ where at ATT and Verizon use LTE which they claim is faster but no sorry it aint. Do youtube searches and you can see for yourself. So if you use a Tmobile phone on any other network, you wont get the fastest speeds possible. Sure Tmobile and ATT use the same network but NOT the same channels ( frequencies ) So What I did was I choose to get a Tmobile sim card to use the HSPA+ channel. That enables my phone to work at full network speeds. Problem with Tmobile prepaid vs StraightTalk is that Tmobile throttles. SO lets say I get just 3g speeds like some of you keep saying. Well its still a whole lot better than 2g with Tmobile ( look at the price and data useage on Tmobiles cheapest plan ) For example. Lets say we use at most 2g monthly data. Tmobile will cost you $15 more for the same speed and data amount that Straight Talk offers. So WHY use Tmobile? Go check out this video youtu.be/7IBCtS0jmag
I wouldnt bull**** you . I got the phone in my hand and know what Im talking about. BTW I had a Nokia E71 and used it with StraightTalk and always got HsPa speeds which is way up there past 3G. The phone wasnt 4G capable but It would show 3.5G on the screen. The vid I just asked you to watch explains all the speeds. I am infact getting 4 G with StraighTalk.
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Yeah, say that to your account getting terminated next week. Congratulations.
StraightTalk has a cap of 2GBS!!!! it depends on your luck, but if u get more than 4GBS, you will be suspended in the upcoming days.. T-mobile's monthly4g plans are the only way to get 5GBs for only $30.....
Have fun getting terminated.
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Dude you got a bad attitude. Im telling you all this for YOUR benefit.
I been having this phone now for 3 months. No problems at all.
Before this phone I had a Nokia E71 using the ATT sim and got 3.5G speeds. All this crap about only getting 3G is hearsay. Hey if you wanna whine and complain do it in the mirror. I know what Im getting.
You may get something different depending on your area. All I know is that the straighTalk plan is cheaper.
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does it have the proper at&t bands or an at&t radio from the equivalent phone ...
if so you choose at&t compatible when you get the sim/apn from their website
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i double checked it does have the proper at&t bands and radio. Tmobile galaxy s2 with att sim should be able to get 3g speeds. My biggest question is, does tmobile and ATT share blacklist. If they do this means phone will be blacklisted even after unlocked. If not then phone will be able to be used with ATT sim
oh brother
nickcaper said:
Look folks. Seriosuly. All this crap about Tmobile being better is bull****.
I know first hand cause I tried Tmobile with the GS2 then used it with Straight talk.
I still have it on Straighttalk. I installed a data counter. I can see the data I use on 4g vs wifi. I keep the useage down on the phone. I use about 2g a month. Wifi is much more. BUT the speeds is what is most important. Lets do a comparison.
Tmobile 50$ plan gets you *First 100MB at up to 4G speeds then goes to 2 g. There 60$ pan gets you ***First 2GB at up to 4G speeds. This plan is the same data you will get using StraightTalk but $15 more. And for 70$ with Tmobile you get ****First 5GB at up to 4G speeds. WHich is 25$ more and I must say when yoiu are on a budget it does make a difference. Now, I have done several speed tests and compaed my results to 4g and 3G. Then I compared it to my Wifi. Here are the results. My Wifi results show I get 20mb down and 2mb up. This is pretty accurate for what I pay for with my home internet. using just the phone and not wifi I get 4.5mb down and 1.7mb up. I use the speed.net Android app. Just do a search for speed test in android market. It looks like a big speedometer. I get no throttles. And Actually sometimes I get faster speeds on my cell 4g. Ive gotten upto 9mbs! No joke. Most people are getting at most around 2.1mb down on 4g networks. If youre lucky you will get really high 20mb down. WHat people dont understand is that Tmobile has a special channel they use for there data that provides better speeds. Called HSPA+ where at ATT and Verizon use LTE which they claim is faster but no sorry it aint. Do youtube searches and you can see for yourself. So if you use a Tmobile phone on any other network, you wont get the fastest speeds possible. Sure Tmobile and ATT use the same network but NOT the same channels ( frequencies ) So What I did was I choose to get a Tmobile sim card to use the HSPA+ channel. That enables my phone to work at full network speeds. Problem with Tmobile prepaid vs StraightTalk is that Tmobile throttles. SO lets say I get just 3g speeds like some of you keep saying. Well its still a whole lot better than 2g with Tmobile ( look at the price and data useage on Tmobiles cheapest plan ) For example. Lets say we use at most 2g monthly data. Tmobile will cost you $15 more for the same speed and data amount that Straight Talk offers. So WHY use Tmobile? Go check out this video youtu.be/7IBCtS0jmag
I wouldnt bull**** you . I got the phone in my hand and know what Im talking about. BTW I had a Nokia E71 and used it with StraightTalk and always got HsPa speeds which is way up there past 3G. The phone wasnt 4G capable but It would show 3.5G on the screen. The vid I just asked you to watch explains all the speeds. I am infact getting 4 G with StraighTalk.
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Dude you got a bad attitude. Im telling you all this for YOUR benefit.
I been having this phone now for 3 months. No problems at all.
Before this phone I had a Nokia E71 using the ATT sim and got 3.5G speeds. All this crap about only getting 3G is hearsay. Hey if you wanna whine and complain do it in the mirror. I know what Im getting.
You may get something different depending on your area. All I know is that the straighTalk plan is cheaper.
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jeez.i had a nokia e71 on straight talk a couple of years ago,the speed was fair,but it isn't even capable of hspa.
i went over the data limit one month,i got no warning,no throttle.
at the end of the month my account was banned.
i am on month 8 of tmobile's 5 gb 100 minute plan.i recommend it highly.
in fact i added a second account i like it so well.
i make calls over wifi using bobsled calling,does not count against your minutes,and has good sound quality.that has been my experience,i'll refrain from any disparaging comments.
I am on ATT with Unlimited $30 iPhone plan. My main is iPhone 4S yet I just love my T989 and sometimes I switch. Here is what I can say about data. IT is fast and it's 100% not EDGE yet I think for some reason it's not as fast as my 4S (data wise) If needed I can provide speedtest.net test results from same location with 4S and T989 and you'll see that T989 is slightly slower, I'd say I'll get solid 250KB/sec download and about 100KB/sec upload with T989 and about 340/150 with iPhone. Also in Games like Order and Chaos I see iPhone performs a bit better latency wise (now that kinda make no sense but oh well) So here is my 2 cents
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jeez.i had a nokia e71 on straight talk a couple of years ago,the speed was fair,but it isn't even capable of hspa.
i went over the data limit one month,i got no warning,no throttle.
at the end of the month my account was banned.
i am on month 8 of tmobile's 5 gb 100 minute plan.i recommend it highly.
in fact i added a second account i like it so well.
i make calls over wifi using bobsled calling,does not count against your minutes,and has good sound quality.that has been my experience,i'll refrain from any disparaging comments.
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100 minutes might be fine if you sit at home all day with a wifi connection but what about people on the go?
So far i havent been banned or blacklisted.
Ive tried the Tmobile service and its great but again, the throttle is what sux. WHY do they even bother doin that? Im sick of the greedy things these companies do to make money. Its suppose to be unlimited BUt, And you have a smart phone but cant fully use it unless..... its always some bull****.
As for Nokia, yea I got 3.5g all the time. Said it right there on the phone.
BTW. I cant wifi on the T989 cause I dont use Tmobile. Only Tmobile service enables wifi calling.
All they gotta do is take that throttle bull**** off and Ill go with them.
If Straight talk can do it and do it cheaper then why cant Tmobile do it?
There loss.
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I am on ATT with Unlimited $30 iPhone plan. My main is iPhone 4S yet I just love my T989 and sometimes I switch. Here is what I can say about data. IT is fast and it's 100% not EDGE yet I think for some reason it's not as fast as my 4S (data wise) If needed I can provide speedtest.net test results from same location with 4S and T989 and you'll see that T989 is slightly slower, I'd say I'll get solid 250KB/sec download and about 100KB/sec upload with T989 and about 340/150 with iPhone. Also in Games like Order and Chaos I see iPhone performs a bit better latency wise (now that kinda make no sense but oh well) So here is my 2 cents
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Man that is some really slow speeds.
Rememeber, the T989 s meant to work with HSPA+ not LTE.
Using the T989 on anything other than Tmobile may yield slower speeds that you would usually get. The phone works with totally different frequency channels. Although you will get data it wont be as fast. The data frequency on the T989 is not compatible with the ATT data frequency. They arent the same. So people get slow speeds when using the T989 on ATT service. Tmobile uses 1900mhz for HSPA+ which is 4G. The 1900Mhz channel ATT uses only gives HSPA not HSPA+. HSPA is just 3G. In 2013 Tmobile will start using the 1700/2100mhz channels for LTE but your T989 will still only be setup for 1900Mhz HSPA+. ATT uses 1700/2100mhz channels for 4g. As you can see these 2 companies uses different channels to get 4g speeds.
So again, if you have a T989 Always always use a Tmobile sim card with StraighTalk or use Tmobile as your service. If you dont, the phone will not receive proper 1900Mhz data frequencies and wont get high internet speeds.
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I used to own a G2X for the tomobile network and now I have a galaxy s2, but the thing I remember going on in the g2x forums was that there was a hack to make it so that your phone wouldn't get throttled if you went over the cap limit on tmobiles network. I don't know if such a thing exists for our gs2 but if it doesn't might not hurt to ask the dev guys for help on this being a possibiltu for our phones.
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100 minutes might be fine if you sit at home all day with a wifi connection but what about people on the go?
So far i havent been banned or blacklisted.
Ive tried the Tmobile service and its great but again, the throttle is what sux. WHY do they even bother doin that? Im sick of the greedy things these companies do to make money. Its suppose to be unlimited BUt, And you have a smart phone but cant fully use it unless..... its always some bull****.
As for Nokia, yea I got 3.5g all the time. Said it right there on the phone.
BTW. I cant wifi on the T989 cause I dont use Tmobile. Only Tmobile service enables wifi calling.
All they gotta do is take that throttle bull**** off and Ill go with them.
If Straight talk can do it and do it cheaper then why cant Tmobile do it?
There loss.
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Man that is some really slow speeds.
Rememeber, the T989 s meant to work with HSPA+ not LTE.
Using the T989 on anything other than Tmobile may yield slower speeds that you would usually get. The phone works with totally different frequency channels. Although you will get data it wont be as fast. The data frequency on the T989 is not compatible with the ATT data frequency. They arent the same. So people get slow speeds when using the T989 on ATT service. Tmobile uses 1900mhz for HSPA+ which is 4G. The 1900Mhz channel ATT uses only gives HSPA not HSPA+. HSPA is just 3G. In 2013 Tmobile will start using the 1700/2100mhz channels for LTE but your T989 will still only be setup for 1900Mhz HSPA+. ATT uses 1700/2100mhz channels for 4g. As you can see these 2 companies uses different channels to get 4g speeds.
So again, if you have a T989 Always always use a Tmobile sim card with StraighTalk or use Tmobile as your service. If you dont, the phone will not receive proper 1900Mhz data frequencies and wont get high internet speeds.
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Well in that case if possible explain this. Let's make this simple. There is EDGE that will give you like 10KB sec at most ....then there is 3G that will give you anything from lower 100kb to as high as 8Mbit / sec ( I get easy 8Mbit/sec on Brighton Beach 11235 ZIP CODE) now T989 is not EDGE it's simply too fast for that and you saying it does not have proper band for ATT 3G ..so what does is works on then ? Because in my understanding T989 by TMobile is ONLY SGS2 phone that support all carriers with 3G speeds. I may be wrong but all I know is this. It works not as good as iPhone on ATT but I can listen radio and make Skype calls with video and watch youtube movies when let's say other Tmobile phones and using edge I can hardly get email going with ATT SIM and forget about any multimedia.
I think you are not fully educated on the cell phone technologies.
Cell phones have the capability to work on all old technologies. Or at least most old technologies. In other words, todays cell phones are backward compatible with Edge and 2G and even 3G. The Galaxy S2 is a 4g phone. NOT just 3G. but can work on 3G as well. It gets 4G by using the HSPA+ carrier. Others use LTE like your Iphone.
You should look at the chart again and made a study of it.
Your Iphone you have is manufactured to work with ATT. It has a special radio in it that is specifically setup to work with ATT 4G LTE which is any of the 3 channels in the chart for ATT. The 3 channels ATT uses to get 4G is 700mhz, 1700 and 2100Mhz. 4g goes way up to around 20+mb download. Your ATT iPhone also works on 3G but ATT's 3g channels are 850 and 1900mhz and use the HSPA carrier. NOT HSPA+ which Tmobile uses to get 4G. But Tmobile does some magic and uses the ATT HSPA channels and turns them into 4G by using HSPA+ !!!!
If you look at the TMobile chart you can see that its VERY beneficial to use there network and phones for 2 reasons. First, If you use Tmobile you will get very fast data speeds which many say is the fastest. Second reason is, that Tmobile uses a totally different set of channels to get that data speed PLUS allows you to use your ATT phone on there channels AND get 4G speeds that ATT would only yield 3G! Ill give you the big picture here. MOSt phones right now, that ATT user have are working in the 850mhz to 1900mhz range. That gives the ATT user a 3G speed and they will see around 2.1mb downloads at best. The really cool thing about Tmobile is that if you take your ATT phone and port it over to Tmobile, that same 1900mhz is now running at 4g speeds due to the HSPA+ technology Tmobile uses. And you didnt even have to do anything !!!
Many people have said that when porting over to Tmobile they get faster speeds. This is why.
The only time ATT will be the same speed as Tmobile is when you have an ATT phone like an Iphone 4 that runs on the LTE network. Of course there are other new phones that use the LTE technology on ATT but for most people right now, they are still using the 3G channels because they bought there phones a year or 2 ago and LTE was not out then.
If You are getting high speeds on your Iphone 4 and not on your GS2 then its due to one reason. Reception. The GS2 cant recieve LTE speeds which on paper says its way faster than Tmobile. As I said it can be upto 20+mb download. Many people dont get that but some do. HSPA+ will get 8mb with a very good signal and that is not a bad download at all. Its very good actually. Soon, in 2013 Tmobile will be upgrading to LTE so dont worry about speed. Tmobile will be way up there with ATT and while ATT still has the Iphone, Android is right there coming out with phones that smoke Iphone. Tmobile offers 4G speeds with 3G channels. Noone else does that. Its cause they want people to port over to there service.
I hope you can understand what Im saying now.
So after have a iphone 3g and iphone 4 for last 4 years I am pretty sick of having basically the same thing for 4 years other than my 4 has a better processor and screen compared to 3G. So I'm looking to get out of the iphone and my contract just ended on saturday.
I have been looking and considering getting the S3 but I am very conflicted at the moment. I live in Charlotte NC and both at&t 4g lte and verizon's 4g lte are offered in Charlotte but verizon's lte coverage just smacks at&t's lte coverage(especially in the southeast u.s.).
As of right now I still have unlimited with at&t but just do to the vastness of verizon's lte coverage I have been wanting to switch for sometime and especially since my wife has a Razr on verizon lte I've been blown away by it compared to at&t normal 3g speeds of course.
I do travel with work so the coverage is important but basically I'm not sure if it's worth giving up my unlimited data with extreme lack of lte but great amount of hspa+ for verizon's lte.
and yes I see the reports on the locked bootloader from verizon... which has me thinking maybe I should just wait on this leaked and possible Razr HD or just say screw you verizon.
I don't know. I'm confused
At&t's "Unlimited" is not unlimited for LTE. You only get 5GB per month. I know that's a lot of data, but you'd be surprised how fast that gets used up, AND you will get throttled after that until you next billing cycle. So you may need to take that into consideration.
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At&t's "Unlimited" is not unlimited for LTE. You only get 5GB per month. I know that's a lot of data, but you'd be surprised how fast that gets used up, AND you will get throttled after that until you next billing cycle. So you may need to take that into consideration.
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oh my i have not discovered that fact yet. wow. that kinda defeats purpose of unlimited then
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oh my i have not discovered that fact yet. wow. that kinda defeats purpose of unlimited then
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Additionally, once you're 1mb over your limit, you get charged another fee [whatever rate your plan is] for that month again.
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Additionally, once you're 1mb over your limit, you get charged another fee [whatever rate your plan is] for that month again.
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this i don't see not even on their website saying anything about additional charges
http :// www .att. com/ esupport/ datausage.jsp?source=IZDUel1160000000U
anyone have any opinions further on what I should do?
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Additionally, once you're 1mb over your limit, you get charged another fee [whatever rate your plan is] for that month again.
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Not exactly, there are differences.
On a grandfathered unlimited plan you get up to 5GB of data with an LTE device, 3GB on a non-LTE device. After 5GB (or 3GB) you will be throttled till your next billing cycle. As low as 160k with my past experiences of being throttled, which is useless.
On a tiered plan 3GB ($30) or 5GB ($50) you will get billed an extra $10 per GB you go over until your bill cycle ends. You do not get throttled on this plan, you just pay the overage. Its set up differently than the unlimited plan.
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At&t's "Unlimited" is not unlimited for LTE. You only get 5GB per month. I know that's a lot of data, but you'd be surprised how fast that gets used up, AND you will get throttled after that until you next billing cycle. So you may need to take that into consideration.
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was on iPhone 4..i still have my grandfather unlimited* been throttled once on 3G was bad speeds... hows is when on throttle 4G LTE ? edge like speeds? thats how it was on my i4 on 3G.. i know ill hit it again but never on LTE yet
the debate for me really is att lte vs. verizon lte as a att 5g throttlecap will be there with my unlimited or switch to verizon and get 4gb or 6gb shared. either way neither are truly unlimited. Yea att may still be unlimited but just google searching and seeing throttling results around 16k... it's like wow... useless..what works at 16k dl??? what do i choose? 5gb throttle cap or verizon 4 or 6gb cap, and that's before we get into the fact verizon is locked.
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So after have a iphone 3g and iphone 4 for last 4 years I am pretty sick of having basically the same thing for 4 years other than my 4 has a better processor and screen compared to 3G. So I'm looking to get out of the iphone and my contract just ended on saturday.
I have been looking and considering getting the S3 but I am very conflicted at the moment. I live in Charlotte NC and both at&t 4g lte and verizon's 4g lte are offered in Charlotte but verizon's lte coverage just smacks at&t's lte coverage(especially in the southeast u.s.).
EXCELLENT CHOICE FOR YOUR 1ST ANDROID DEVICE. I CAME FROM THE 4S AND WILL NEVER GO BACK. IF YOU SAY THE COVERAGE IS BETTER WITH VERIZON I'D GIVE THEM THE EDGE HERE.
As of right now I still have unlimited with at&t but just do to the vastness of verizon's lte coverage I have been wanting to switch for sometime and especially since my wife has a Razr on verizon lte I've been blown away by it compared to at&t normal 3g speeds of course.
"WHEN" YOU GET YOUR S3, YOU CAN BLOW YOUR WIFES RAZR AWAY. :laugh:
I do travel with work so the coverage is important but basically I'm not sure if it's worth giving up my unlimited data with extreme lack of lte but great amount of hspa+ for verizon's lte.
and yes I see the reports on the locked bootloader from verizon... which has me thinking maybe I should just wait on this leaked and possible Razr HD or just say screw you verizon.
YOU'VE KINDA ANSWERED YOUR OWN QUESTIONS. EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. I have the S3 on att in vegas, and I get 20-25MBs on LTE. I've just had to change my data habits and use wifi as much as possible (@work and @home). I stay under 3GB per month so I'm happy.
I don't know. I'm confused
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markysd said:
was on iPhone 4..i still have my grandfather unlimited* been throttled once on 3G was bad speeds... hows is when on throttle 4G LTE ? edge like speeds? thats how it was on my i4 on 3G.. i know ill hit it again but never on LTE yet
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Well I got the Skyrocket about 6 months ago, my first LTE device. I had unlimited but at the time I was getting throttled at 2GB. That was a week into my billing cycle. The Skyrocket threads were blowing up with throttling and how to bypass it. There was a minor fix, being able to switch to an older APN, but we only got HSPA speeds, 1-1.5MBs. I couldn't take it anymore and gave in to AT&T and switched to a 5GB tiered plan. A couple months after that, there was a lawsuit against AT&T and the people won, so AT&T switched their policy and gave unlimited users 5GB for the same $30. Needless to say I wasn't allowed to switch back to my unlimited so I got screwed due to my impatience. When I got throttled i was getting about 160k. It was useless and my phone was unusable for internet, that's why I switched.
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Well I got the Skyrocket about 6 months ago, my first LTE device. I had unlimited but at the time I was getting throttled at 2GB. That was a week into my billing cycle. The Skyrocket threads were blowing up with throttling and how to bypass it. There was a minor fix, being able to switch to an older APN, but we only got HSPA speeds, 1-1.5MBs. I couldn't take it anymore and gave in to AT&T and switched to a 5GB tiered plan. A couple months after that, there was a lawsuit against AT&T and the people won, so AT&T switched their policy and gave unlimited users 5GB for the same $30. Needless to say I wasn't allowed to switch back to my unlimited so I got screwed due to my impatience. When I got throttled i was getting about 160k. It was useless and my phone was unusable for internet, that's why I switched.
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thanks for that info..ill see what happen when i hit my 5GB cap..sucks what AT&T do to loyal customers...when i got throttle on my iphone 4 3G it was not all the time i get slow speeds just depends on day/hour of day when cell towers are not hammered.. sucks that you dont have the unlimited data 30$ on 5GB sorry bout that.. AT&T just trying to squeeze every penny out to customers..dont like AT&T data plan prices 250mb wtf is that? 5 HD clips on youtube... unlimited data is why im still on AT&T 30$ is good if your still on grandfather.. but all companies are similar now no such thing of unlimited data even they say unlimited data with a (*) i knew this day was going to come when i had the iPhone 3Gs data was so more used then text/voice call.. i can live with DATA only.. i use data for VOIP/MSGing/text via APP..ok im dont with my rant:silly:
it will never be as it used to be because some select people abused the network and att and verizon went...hey we can charge for that!
I'd say stick with AT&T. They have the better network. Their H+ "4G" is more than enough to do anything and they are deploying that across the nation as well as their LTE network. H+ averages 5-8 megs for me. Basically their fall back network is loads better than Verizon's cdma network. Not sure who has the faster lte speeds but Verizon's got more markets when it comes to lte. However they have had nation wide LTE outages where I don't think AT&T has yet. I think we can all agree AT&T has worst customer service though. Hope this helps.
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yeah. i've gone over this in my head over and over but i still can't decide what's best option...
As far as throttling goes for AT&T unlimited users supposedly gets throttled at 5 gigs of data. Biggest AT&T data plan is 5 gigs for 50 bucks. I'd say stick with unlimited (which is 30 I believe).
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jerrygooch said:
As far as throttling goes for AT&T unlimited users supposedly gets throttled at 5 gigs of data. Biggest AT&T data plan is 5 gigs for 50 bucks. I'd say stick with unlimited (which is 30 I believe).
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I'll second that, I have heard no good stories about Verizon recently.
same situation to me, need make an decision between att ultimate vs Verizon share data
LTE and 4G are the same? because i know that glide doesnt has lte, but when i use the mobile data, i see the 4G icon. i always have that question. thanks
4g is hsdpa+, which is slightly above 3g, but not quite 4g. It still is fast enough
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4g is hsdpa+, which is slightly above 3g, but not quite 4g. It still is fast enough
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Then , is better than 3.5G ? (here we know that like 3g and 3.5g). Thanks, for your help thats clear me that question (sorry for my english )
It pretty much is 3.5g.
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To give you an idea, LTE can "theoretically" max at 300 mbps (mbps = mega bits per second -- most carriers/ISP's provide this), which would translate to 37.5 megabytes/sec. Do you get that now? Very unlikely. Friends who have LTE are only getting around 24 mbps, which is still really fast.
HSPA+, which is what AT&T's "4G" (not 4G LTE -- it's the 3.5G) as well as T-Mobile's has a peak of about 42 mbps -- and I've seen folks here (Houston) get really close to that in speed -- which translates to a little over 5 megabytes/sec.
T-Mo and AT&T are actively working to get more and more LTE towers and service created (they have HSPA+). T-Mo hasn't rolled theirs out at all, except I think for testing in a few select, small markets, if I remember correctly. AT&T has service in LTE already established.
LTE is the way of the future at the moment. Kind of like the HD-DVD vs bluray debacle years ago -- LTE won out over another 4G technology, WiMax, which was on several earlier phones on Sprint. Sprint finally conceded it lost and start building out an LTE network to replace their WiMax one.
Hopefully, that's a NICE BIG chunk of knowledge that you can partially digest.
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To give you an idea, LTE can "theoretically" max at 300 mbps (mbps = mega bits per second -- most carriers/ISP's provide this), which would translate to 37.5 megabytes/sec. Do you get that now? Very unlikely. Friends who have LTE are only getting around 24 mbps, which is still really fast.
HSPA+, which is what AT&T's "4G" (not 4G LTE -- it's the 3.5G) as well as T-Mobile's has a peak of about 42 mbps -- and I've seen folks here (Houston) get really close to that in speed -- which translates to a little over 5 megabytes/sec.
T-Mo and AT&T are actively working to get more and more LTE towers and service created (they have HSPA+). T-Mo hasn't rolled theirs out at all, except I think for testing in a few select, small markets, if I remember correctly. AT&T has service in LTE already established.
LTE is the way of the future at the moment. Kind of like the HD-DVD vs bluray debacle years ago -- LTE won out over another 4G technology, WiMax, which was on several earlier phones on Sprint. Sprint finally conceded it lost and start building out an LTE network to replace their WiMax one.
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Ya it's a huge difference, put it like this;
We get 3mbps and LTE gets 30mbps. Of course I am over simplifying things but LTE is about 10X faster then 3G which is what we have.
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Ya it's a huge difference, put it like this;
We get 3mbps and LTE gets 30mbps. Of course I am over simplifying things but LTE is about 10X faster then 3G which is what we have.
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Depends on where they're deployed, though. At the moment, in my mind, though, HSPA+ is fast enough. LTE is nice and important for future-proofing, but I don't see a need for it for another... probably 3-5 years. Keep in mind, most people's home internet is like 3-12 mbps on average. HSPA+ current results for my city are WELL above this for all providers.
You realize that Cappy Glide can get HSPA+ which goes up to 42mbps -- you could theoretically download at > 5 megabytes/sec under ideal circumstances... I currently pull around 1-2 megabytes/sec... Why would you ever need more on this current gen -- especially with data-capping?
Just saying I have a friend on the same cellular provider as me and he has that new Windows Phone from Nokia on LTE and me with the glide. We did a speed test and I got around 2.5mbps and he got 25.mbps. I agree for everyday stuff 2.5 mbps is enough, but I just have to say I was drooling when I saw the speed he was getting on Rogers which is whoI have.
I have 2 years left on my Contract and I am happy with my Glide but for sure in 2 years I will make sure my next phone is a LTE device. I have a 6Gigs download cap so I am not to worried about caps after all it is a cell phone and 6 gigs should be plenty.
Fair enough -- seems that Rogers is much different as a carrier than the ones here in the US. I've had friends on HSPA+ on T-Mobile at like 30ish mbps and friends on LTE on Verizon at 35 mbps. It wasn't a super big difference. But until you hit double-digits on the speed, I can totally understand the drool you emit and why.
thanks, thats clear e a lot i always think that 4G was behind of lte but better than 3.5G, because my glide is the unique phone that i see with 4G icon (all the phones here only has 3G icon or H+ and the modems wcdma or Hsdpa) i am not in USA or Canada
I wouldnt say that 4G is HSDPA+ ..
Let's get back to begining ...
1. GSM (2G) 9.6 kbps,
2. GPRS (2G) 40 kbps
3. EDGE (2G) 120 kbps
4. WCDMA (3G) = UMTS and HSDPA 14Mbps
5. HSPA and HSUPA (3.5G) = HSPA+ 28Mbps (unreal speeds / market speeds)
6. DC-HSDPA (4G) 42Mbps and up (unreal speeds / market speeds)
7. OFDMA (LTE/WiMAX) 100Mbps (unreal speeds / market speeds)
Here is reality : http://www.zdnet.com/au/speed-test-how-fast-is-4g-really-7000007995/
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I wouldnt say that 4G is HSDPA+ ..
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1. GSM (2G) 9.6 kbps,
2. GPRS (2G) 40 kbps
3. EDGE (2G) 120 kbps
4. WCDMA (3G) = UMTS and HSDPA 14Mbps
5. HSPA and HSUPA (3.5G) = HSPA+ 28Mbps (unreal speeds / market speeds)
6. DC-HSDPA (4G) 42Mbps and up (unreal speeds / market speeds)
7. OFDMA (LTE/WiMAX) 100Mbps (unreal speeds / market speeds)
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That table is misleading. Most cablecos have rolled out DOCSIS3, capable of 50Mbps at the low end, yet you'd be lucky if there's a 20Mbps package available at all. VDSL is a similar story. Realistically, you're gonna see one, maybe two Mbps real-world, even on LTE. When you're talking about actual bandwidth delivered to your device, you won't see ANY improvement upgrading past UMTS. In the US market, all the benefits of the newer technologies are exclusively on the side of the carriers -- you will see nothing.
Stay on WiFi, folks.
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That table is misleading. Most cablecos have rolled out DOCSIS3, capable of 50Mbps at the low end, yet you'd be lucky if there's a 20Mbps package available at all. VDSL is a similar story. Realistically, you're gonna see one, maybe two Mbps real-world, even on LTE. When you're talking about actual bandwidth delivered to your device, you won't see ANY improvement upgrading past UMTS. In the US market, all the benefits of the newer technologies are exclusively on the side of the carriers -- you will see nothing.
Stay on WiFi, folks.
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Man I don't know what u talking your words are misleading.. sorry
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That table is misleading. Most cablecos have rolled out DOCSIS3, capable of 50Mbps at the low end, yet you'd be lucky if there's a 20Mbps package available at all. VDSL is a similar story. Realistically, you're gonna see one, maybe two Mbps real-world, even on LTE. When you're talking about actual bandwidth delivered to your device, you won't see ANY improvement upgrading past UMTS. In the US market, all the benefits of the newer technologies are exclusively on the side of the carriers -- you will see nothing.
Stay on WiFi, folks.
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Lololololololol now that I've laughed enough. Play an online game on UMTS and on LTE or download a file or game or video the come talk to me. LTE is not just for the benefits of the carriers.
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Lololololololol now that I've laughed enough. Play an online game on UMTS and on LTE or download a file or game or video the come talk to me. LTE is not just for the benefits of the carriers.
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OK u are the maaan
The Captivate Glide on AT&T in the US is capable of a rated 21Mbps maximum speed...I have one on a NET10/AT&T SIM in Los Angeles and have so far seen up to 11Mbps in speed tests, but it can also be much slower, dependent on the traffic on the network where I happen to be - the phone's indicator nearly always says "4G" even if my download speeds are less than 500k. If you have a Samsung Relay on T-Mobile (the closest phone to the Captivate Glide design-wise) it has a max rated speed of 42Mbps, and the T-Mobile network usually has faster average data speeds regardless, as long as you're on 4G, but their network is smaller. At this point I'm paying $46 a month on NET10/AT&T versus $55 a month on Page Plus for a 3G phone that maxes at 2.5Mbps (usually around 1200k) on Verizon's network, both with 2GB of data (I use WiFi as much as possible). For my needs I'm willing to spend a lot less with a MVNO prepaid network and live with the HSPA+, rather than paying $100 a month and up for LTE on Verizon, AT&T or Sprint - LTE is also a big battery hog. The fact I was able to get a slightly used Glide for around $100 helped as well, rather than paying hundreds more for an LTE phone and/or being locked into an expensive contract.
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The Captivate Glide on AT&T in the US is capable of a rated 21Mbps maximum speed...I have one on a NET10/AT&T SIM in Los Angeles and have so far seen up to 11Mbps in speed tests, but it can also be much slower, dependent on the traffic on the network where I happen to be - the phone's indicator nearly always says "4G" even if my download speeds are less than 500k. If you have a Samsung Relay on T-Mobile (the closest phone to the Captivate Glide design-wise) it has a max rated speed of 42Mbps, and the T-Mobile network usually has faster average data speeds regardless, as long as you're on 4G, but their network is smaller. At this point I'm paying $46 a month on NET10/AT&T versus $55 a month on Page Plus for a 3G phone that maxes at 2.5Mbps (usually around 1200k) on Verizon's network, both with 2GB of data (I use WiFi as much as possible). For my needs I'm willing to spend a lot less with a MVNO prepaid network and live with the HSPA+, rather than paying $100 a month and up for LTE on Verizon, AT&T or Sprint - LTE is also a big battery hog. The fact I was able to get a slightly used Glide for around $100 helped as well, rather than paying hundreds more for an LTE phone and/or being locked into an expensive contract.
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UUf i would never pay so much ..
I have one contract for 12 months (sim only) so am locked but am paying £15 a month and I have unlimited internet and unlim. SMS , then 600 minutes that my girlfriend uses .. (she never use all 600 minutes .. she is texting more ..)
And I had Giff Gaff previously .. it is based on O2 but it is cheaper and it is sim only . I used to pay £10 a month for unlimited internet unlim. texts and 250 minutes .. BUT they increased package to £12 so I started NOT liking it cos speed is not as fast as on 3 network
So I have decided to go with 3 network (same as my girlfriend) but it is SIM only pay as u go so it is 15 pounds a month no contract am not locked and I have same package as girlfriend but NOT 600 minutes but 300 minutes of call .. and that is way enough for me .. internet and SMS unlimited that is my priority..