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Hey guys a bit ago i wrote a batch script to help people root their nexus s and their nexus s 4g's. why? because i could.. so anyways long story short, ive glanced over the galaxy nexus rooting procedure, seems fairly familiar . ive got a version 5.0 of my one click for teh nexus s 4g which now has menu options for the gsm version of the galaxy nexus. just need someone to confirm taht it all works buttery smooth before i go make a post about it over in development
P.S. Verizon customers your phone is already included, just commented out due to you not having your own CWM image yet. once you guys have that (official or not) ill make 6.0 with you guys
http://goo.gl/2DBZk

This working on Mac?
Nevermind... all .bat and .exe files

sorry when i have some time one of these days i plan on making a bash script version but for now i make too many changes all too often for me to try and maintain 2 separate scripts

Would like someone to confirm if this works properly
Getting my phone this Tuesday and I hope to use this

There's been a batch script out for rooting the GN since a week or so before the phone was released, from a developer who has a test phone: it includes versions for windows, mac and linux.
Superboot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352413

yea im aware of it, however that flashes a pre-rooted kernel. id much rather flash cwm so that users can then flash any themes/roms/tweaks. the superboot method indeed does root the gsm model just fine. but all it does is send a fastboot command. you have to unlock the phone yourself and have the drivers from somewhere else get the phone into fastboot mode so the script can send
Code:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
my script on the other hand talks you thru enabling usb debugging, includes drivers gets you into fastboot to unlock (if you need it) flashes cwm and then guides you thru flashing root.zip but still doing most of teh heavy lifting for you (rebooting bootloader, unlocking, pushing the zip etc etc)
i was however unaware of this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356917
which is done by borky. hes a cool guy, when i had made the orginal one click for teh nexus s 4g he asked permission to make it nexus s compatible. was un aware that he had made a GN version tho that was a my bad... as such if anyone wants to use this then its of their free will (obviously) but ill step aside and give any assistance to borky should he need it and everyone should refer to this thread here for further inquiries regarding one clicks that flash cwm

Has anyone tested it yet?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

ive had over 40 downloads of 5.0 and no one has come forward and said anything... i dlike to check it off as a confirmed working by some users so qbking77 can make a nice sexy video on how to use it/root etc etc.

Has anyone tested this?

Root SGH-I757

Anyway to root Bell Samsung Galaxy S2 LTE???
I cannot find anything on google or in this forums.
Thanks!!!

yea me either ive been searching for a couple weeks now.... it sucks

Rooting i757M
Am also still looking how to root this thing. The Skyrocket HD is merely the same phone, branded on AT&T carrier and this article made it clear that the phone has been silently put to the side, in favor of the coming S3. (phonesreview.co.uk/2012/05/10/samsung-galaxy-s3-buries-att-sii-skyrocket-hd).
That is, even on samsung online personal profile page, you can even find the SGH-i757M in the list of phone version, to add in your owner's page.
If anyone of you manage to root the phone, thanks to let me know.
Correction: The SGH-i757M can be found in the BAR model section on Samsung profile page and not under Smartphone. Hmm... weird categorization. Are those bar phones not smartphones? Oh, they are mini tablets.

Here is one.

Do you have any procedure to use that files? I just don't want to brick my phone

There's no any special procedure other than flash it with Odin
There're many tutorials about it here and there like that for example.

rxulan said:
Here is one.
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Has this been tested and confirmed to work? I don't have the device yet but this may make my decision to buy one.

dsixda, well, all I can say is that I flashed it personally (into E120L though) and it worked (including root).

rxulan said:
dsixda, well, all I can say is that I flashed it personally (into E120L though) and it worked (including root).
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Hey that is great news. I wonder if the CWM for the E120L is compatible then?

I wonder if this works to root the device, as I've read it worked for the Asian versions of the GS2 HD:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582

dsixda, I guess it won't be too hard for you to check that as you're recognized developer
You can download the stock I757M firmware with the CheckFus using advanced tab (or using cli only version) with the following data:
Model: SGH-I757M
Product code: SGH-I757ZKMBMC
HIDSWVER: I757MUGLCA/I757MOYCLCA/I757MUGLCA/I757MUGLCA

Yes, I'll try all that as soon as I get my device Always nice to have the stock Odin firmware so that I don't need to dump everything beforehand in case something goes wrong.
Thank you again

Just FYI, the stock firmware is now available at sammobile.com. Grab an account and search for SGH-I757M. The download is much faster than using CheckFus.

Dsixda! So happy your getting this Device, I also want to say thank-you for your Kitchen you created!! Amasing work. Used it all the time with my Evo 3d.
Just got the Samsung Galaxy s2 hd lte with the Bell network, Do you have any plans to incorporate this into your Kitchen??
Also is there any easy Root anyone knows of yet that doesn't involve Odin? Like superoneclick...etc

markdexter said:
Dsixda! So happy your getting this Device, I also want to say thank-you for your Kitchen you created!! Amasing work. Used it all the time with my Evo 3d.
Just got the Samsung Galaxy s2 hd lte with the Bell network, Do you have any plans to incorporate this into your Kitchen??
Also is there any easy Root anyone knows of yet that doesn't involve Odin? Like superoneclick...etc
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Try the Zergrush method which I linked in the previous page.
I haven't decided 100% whether to get it, as I still love my original S2. But if I get it I will incorporate it into the kitchen, once we figure out the custom recovery method.
I'm assuming any of the Tengrak GS2 HD recovery images (Odin .tar) will work, as long as you don't flash the associated Tegrak kernel for the ES120L/S/K?
You can always flash the stock firmware above in case you mess up.

Tried the Zergrush method, I had no luck. Oh well no big deal for now

markdexter said:
Tried the Zergrush method, I had no luck. Oh well no big deal for now
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Or flash the first link provided by rxulan in page 1. It's the stock ROM but the system.img has superuser injected in it.
And/or Google for the Tegrak custom recovery in Xda. Just flash one of those recovery.tar meant for the HD, but not the kernel.

ODIN ?
rxulan said:
There's no any special procedure other than flash it with Odin
There're many tutorials about it here and there like that for example.
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ODIN does not recognise .img or .ext4 files. I understand those are recovery files that CWD can restore but your device should already have been rooted. This is exactly the purpose of this thread, rooting the device first of all. This have been difficult for us to find the right .md5 files to use in ODIN. The device we're trying to root, SGH-i757M.

@ezechias
Odin doesn't recognize the files inside the rooted tar archive (the one linked on page 1), but you can flash them as a tar.md5, which you already know is a preferred format. There are guides online on how to convert it to tar.md5, you can Google it or I can post it later.
First, try to flash the TAR file as is; if it doesn't work then convert to tar.md5, then flash it.
Anyways, it's strange that nobody wants to be the lab rat to test the rooted TAR or the custom recovery that we have already discussed. We have the emergency stock ROM to fall back on if anything goes wrong. Looks like I'll have to purchase this device soon and try it out myself I already have all the files and stock firmware downloaded and ready to go

ICS for E120 K/L/S has been released.
I'm sure the same will happen with I757M pretty soon

How does the GS3 compare to the Vibrant in terms of brickability?

Alright folks, this is directed more at the those that have spent a lot of time modding and flashing their GS3's. I recently got myself a GS3, and I gotta be honest, I haven't gotten the itch to customize it more than root yet because it is just that good already.
I modded the hell out of my Vibrant, constantly flashing Roms, modems, kernels, etc. Ran into a few "bumps" along the road where I thought the phone was done for, but I was always able to bring it back. For instance, a few months before I got the GS3 I was flashing a ROM and although I can't remember the details, something screwed up and I was getting the dreaded Phone to PC symbol. I have had this in the past and had a JIG that would always get me into download mode. This time however, it wouldn't work. I couldn't get ADB to send it into download, nor through the hardware keys, nor with the JIG. I thought for sure I was done for.
I decided to plug it into my computer anyway with ODIN up, and even though it wasn't in download mode, ODIN showed a "yellow COM". I said what is there to lose and so I loaded stock and hit start, lo and behold a few minutes later the ol' Vibrant was booting back up to the familiar sound of the T-Mobile jingle. I thoroughly believe that phone is unbrickable.
Now I know I'm going to get the itch sooner or later, especially as more and more ROM development ensues, but how brickable is the GS3? Anyone know if it's as "tough" as the Vibrant was in that respect, or is it quite a bit easier to brick? What is your experience with it so far?

If you flash am i9300 ROM, you will brick. That's about it.
Sent from my SGH-T999

If you know how to read warnings and have a fully functional brain you won't brick.
Posted from what apple calls "basically an iPhone" SGS3

GS3 should be less likely to brick

I flashed an HTC Rom with the vibrant and was still able to get it back to functionality.. not completely for sure about the GS3. I know of someone that hardbricked their GS3, and they are actually getting close to fixing it, but not fully yet.. just read and flash what ur suppose to.
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I use to have a vibrant too. Then I switch to this. I am a flashaholic so far everything good . Havent have anu problem that odin cant fix.
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If you do eventually decide to fiddle around with your phone, here's some advice:
1. BACKUP YOUR IMEI. No one's 100% sure what causes it (though there are several theories regarding recoveries and wipe scripts). You can inject your IMEI if you don't have a backup but the process takes maybe 10 minutes and I feel like it would save alot of headaches. There are currently two methods. I recommend you do both and keep a copy of the backup files somewhere safe:
Method 1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1808408
Method 2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1804123 (includes instructions on injecting an IMEI.
2. Try to stick to the thread for your particular GS3. I've heard that ATT Roms and kernels are compatible with the TMO version and vice versa. I take a little more comfort knowing a particular ROM or kernel was developed for my specific GS3 variant. Feel free to experiment with ROMS and kernels from other variants but be sure you know what they contain (be especially attentive to different modems/radios, see #3).
3. IMO the biggest source for bricking involves modems/radios. I haven't flashed any because I'm on wind and most of the new modems released have been for TMO. Flashing the wrong radio can brick your phone. Most ROMS don't flash a modem but it never hurts to ask. Be especially attentive to files that require ODIN as I believe some of these files may include modems and recoveries.
4. Since your posting on TMO forum, I'm going to assume yo have a TMO/Wind/Mobilicity variant of the phone. If your looking to root, I recommend using the method in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771687. Simply download the image for your cell phone company and follow the instructions in OP. It's basically just flash with ODIN. Then install a recovery. You can install CWM using the method in the post. Or you can install TWRP by downloading the goo.im app and installing it with that application..
5. HAVE FUN

I used to have a vibrant as well and had a few close calls. I was always able to finally get it back. The S3 appears to be just as hearty (as long as you don't flash a i9300 rom).
Flash away.

nicky9door said:
If you do eventually decide to fiddle around with your phone, here's some advice:
1. BACKUP YOUR IMEI. No one's 100% sure what causes it (though there are several theories regarding recoveries and wipe scripts). You can inject your IMEI if you don't have a backup but the process takes maybe 10 minutes and I feel like it would save alot of headaches. There are currently two methods. I recommend you do both and keep a copy of the backup files somewhere safe:
Method 1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1808408
Method 2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1804123 (includes instructions on injecting an IMEI.
2. Try to stick to the thread for your particular GS3. I've heard that ATT Roms and kernels are compatible with the TMO version and vice versa. I take a little more comfort knowing a particular ROM or kernel was developed for my specific GS3 variant. Feel free to experiment with ROMS and kernels from other variants but be sure you know what they contain (be especially attentive to different modems/radios, see #3).
3. IMO the biggest source for bricking involves modems/radios. I haven't flashed any because I'm on wind and most of the new modems released have been for TMO. Flashing the wrong radio can brick your phone. Most ROMS don't flash a modem but it never hurts to ask. Be especially attentive to files that require ODIN as I believe some of these files may include modems and recoveries.
4. Since your posting on TMO forum, I'm going to assume yo have a TMO/Wind/Mobilicity variant of the phone. If your looking to root, I recommend using the method in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771687. Simply download the image for your cell phone company and follow the instructions in OP. It's basically just flash with ODIN. Then install a recovery. You can install CWM using the method in the post. Or you can install TWRP by downloading the goo.im app and installing it with that application..
5. HAVE FUN
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I did use that method for rooting already, but I didn't realize the issue with the IMEI so that's good to know for when I get the urge to start flashing again. :laugh:

[Q] SGH-T889v windmobile canada. PLEASE get in here.

Hey guys, sorry for posting this, but im desperate and have read until my eyes are falling out of my skull. I am willing to work with any dev if they need specific work/software ran/info to make this happen. Is there, or is there not clear concise directions on rooting SGH-T889v (wind mobile variant of note 2)?
remember we use AWS for our signal, the modem stuff is all different. this is were my expertise kinda falls short. BUT I AM WILLING TO HELP TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. As far as iv'e seen there are no current methods of rooting this phone which is a damn shame considering its horsepower. i saw the all in one toolkit for note 2's, and i simply cannot afford to donate to unlock the functionality of the update that supports wind. So only ONE guy knows how? I believe dev's should get paid and should accept donations, they are the real workers and smart guys. I don't work for free either, However this kinda defeats the purpose of the ecosystem we fought so hard to have.... open and accessible platforms were we the users are in control. By with holding the method, its no longer donating, it's close sourcing ala apple,microsoft, etc. Zero offence to that guy, id just really love to "own" MY phone. Can someone PLEASE help? pass the word? anything? a peep?

gh0stpirate said:
Hey guys, sorry for posting this, but im desperate and have read until my eyes are falling out of my skull. I am willing to work with any dev if they need specific work/software ran/info to make this happen. Is there, or is there not clear concise directions on rooting SGH-T889v (wind mobile variant of note 2)?
remember we use AWS for our signal, the modem stuff is all different. this is were my expertise kinda falls short. BUT I AM WILLING TO HELP TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. As far as iv'e seen there are no current methods of rooting this phone which is a damn shame considering its horsepower. i saw the all in one toolkit for note 2's, and i simply cannot afford to donate to unlock the functionality of the update that supports wind. So only ONE guy knows how? I believe dev's should get paid and should accept donations, they are the real workers and smart guys. I don't work for free either, However this kinda defeats the purpose of the ecosystem we fought so hard to have.... open and accessible platforms were we the users are in control. By with holding the method, its no longer donating, it's close sourcing ala apple,microsoft, etc. Zero offence to that guy, id just really love to "own" MY phone. Can someone PLEASE help? pass the word? anything? a peep?
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Who says there is no way....use donated version of toolkit ...its in there
Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk 2

If you don't mind the flash counter, you could simply use an Odin flashable (N7100) CWM tar, push the superuser zip of your choosing to /data/media/ (linked to /sdcard/) and install that from CWM.

What I know is that the rooting part is all fine and dandy, sure its a little harder than the rest, but its okay, it not too hard. The problem I keep reading is that the ROMS aren't truly compatible with the device, as data become atrociously slow. A method one, respected fellow, recommended we take was to flash a modem that is "for" our device variant. I say that because people reported bootloops due to it. Also there's a greater chance for our device to lose its IMEI number...not sure if these problems have been resolved. But yeah your problem really isn't rooting its the whole deal afterwards, again I am going by what I've read, I myself do not wish to take the chance of it becoming unusable, so i stay far until I got time to research more and some brilliant helpful mind comes along and solves all problems.

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MCRHAZ said:
What I know is that the rooting part is all fine and dandy, sure its a little harder than the rest, but its okay, it not too hard. The problem I keep reading is that the ROMS aren't truly compatible with the device, as data become atrociously slow. A method one, respected fellow, recommended we take was to flash a modem that is "for" our device variant. I say that because people reported bootloops due to it. Also there's a greater chance for our device to lose its IMEI number...not sure if these problems have been resolved. But yeah your problem really isn't rooting its the whole deal afterwards, again I am going by what I've read, I myself do not wish to take the chance of it becoming unusable, so i stay far until I got time to research more and some brilliant helpful mind comes along and solves all problems.
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i think thats the issue, we just generally need someone more brilliant xD as per the "gentleman" that again, suggested using the donating kit, please re-read my post. whats this business about a flash counter????

darn shame still nothing regretting purchasing this phone completely due to this :/

I used the toolkit to root my N2 (Videotron T889v) without any problems. Just used the T-Mobile option since they are the same phone, just different software. The only difference is the modem from what I've read. Rooting does not change the modem that you currently have right now. If you decide you want to install a custom rom, then you may have to flash your modem back. I am currently using Jedi X rom without any problems and I can honestly say that it's faster than stock. He also provides a link with our modem so we can flash it after the install. All the T-Mobile software has been taken out, so you won't have to deal with any of it. Here are the links for the toolkit and rom.
Toolkit - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957720
Jedi X rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987634
There are 2 Jedi Roms available. Jedi X has the multi-window function working but no wifi calling. I believe the other is called Jedi Master and that one has wifi calling but no multi-window. I'm not sure if the wifi calling is a T-Mobile thing but I never installed that rom and can't really give much more info on it. In the end, you can always go back to stock if you're not satisfied. You can find a copy of your stock rom at sammobile. I would suggest making sure it's still available before doing anything.
As for the OP, this is my first time dealing with a flash counter although not my first time rooting. The flash counter is some type of software that Samsung puts in their phones to be able to tell if you have "tampered" with the phone's software. From what I've noticed, when you put your phone in the "download" state and install anything, that triggers the counter to rise. If you send your phone to Samsung for service and the counter is not 0, they will deny service since you would have broken your warranty. There is a program called Triangle Away that will return your counter back to 0, should you need to return the phone to Samsung. Although in my case it would only take it back down to 1 using their instructions. I finally got it back to 0 by adding an extra step. From what I've read, I think it depends on the kernel that you're using. Here is the link for the program.
Triangle Away - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
I'm not an expert on any of this, just trying to help. I can say that I've rooted, unrooted and reset my flash counter back to 0 along with my stock Videotron rom.
Good luck

JDLS said:
I used the toolkit to root my N2 (Videotron T889v) without any problems. Just used the T-Mobile option since they are the same phone, just different software. The only difference is the modem from what I've read. Rooting does not change the modem that you currently have right now. If you decide you want to install a custom rom, then you may have to flash your modem back. I am currently using Jedi X rom without any problems and I can honestly say that it's faster than stock. He also provides a link with our modem so we can flash it after the install. All the T-Mobile software has been taken out, so you won't have to deal with any of it. Here are the links for the toolkit and rom.
Toolkit - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957720
Jedi X rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987634
There are 2 Jedi Roms available. Jedi X has the multi-window function working but no wifi calling. I believe the other is called Jedi Master and that one has wifi calling but no multi-window. I'm not sure if the wifi calling is a T-Mobile thing but I never installed that rom and can't really give much more info on it. In the end, you can always go back to stock if you're not satisfied. You can find a copy of your stock rom at sammobile. I would suggest making sure it's still available before doing anything.
As for the OP, this is my first time dealing with a flash counter although not my first time rooting. The flash counter is some type of software that Samsung puts in their phones to be able to tell if you have "tampered" with the phone's software. From what I've noticed, when you put your phone in the "download" state and install anything, that triggers the counter to rise. If you send your phone to Samsung for service and the counter is not 0, they will deny service since you would have broken your warranty. There is a program called Triangle Away that will return your counter back to 0, should you need to return the phone to Samsung. Although in my case it would only take it back down to 1 using their instructions. I finally got it back to 0 by adding an extra step. From what I've read, I think it depends on the kernel that you're using. Here is the link for the program.
Triangle Away - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
I'm not an expert on any of this, just trying to help. I can say that I've rooted, unrooted and reset my flash counter back to 0 along with my stock Videotron rom.
Good luck
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so you flashed the modem that ptmr3 provided for the t889v along with his jedi x rom and all good is good? no signal issues ? you get hspa+?

First Post:
I'm on Wind Mobile T889v Note 2. And I cant wait for this phone to get rooted so that I can run debian or whatever have you full blow linux desktop experience on my phone.
The current limited version of android on its own is too limiting for the processing beast that this phone is.

MCRHAZ said:
so you flashed the modem that ptmr3 provided for the t889v along with his jedi x rom and all good is good? no signal issues ? you get hspa+?
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That is correct. Never had any issues whatsoever. Always get full signal strength, no disconnections and overall great service. As long as you flash after the rom, you will get your modem back. To be honest, the rom itself has never changed my modem, I always just flash it in case it's just reporting it as an error. In the directions it states that it will change it but I always check it and it has remained the same every time.

you mean by letting bootup and set up first then go back to twrp or cwm? and then flash the modem...my exams are done hoping to do it by tomorrow.

MCRHAZ said:
you mean by letting bootup and set up first then go back to twrp or cwm? and then flash the modem...my exams are done hoping to do it by tomorrow.
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After you flash the rom (if you're flashing Jedi) you need to let it sit for 10 minutes on the first boot up (after the android logo, just use the reboot option after the 10 minutes). Once you've booted up and finished your setup, just go back into cwm or twrp and flash the modem.

how did you reset the flash counter with triangle away? it doesnt seem to work on my 889V
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(Discussion) The Fragmentation of Galaxy S4 devices

I wanted to start a discussion about one thing that I see as a drawback to Samsung development. I'd love to hear peoples thoughts about it and what their experience was on previous Galaxy devices.
I just got this incredible beast of a phone last Tuesday...and....I LOVE it.
This is my first Sammy device, coming from all HTC phones for the last several years. One major thing that has concerned me is the lack of cohesive development, simply due to the fact that Samsung releases so many variants of the GS4 (or do they?).
The one main thing HTC has going for them in regards to phones & development, is that there is usually only one main forum for all your needs. For instance, my old Sensation...all you have to do is SuperCID & have S-OFF and you can flash any ROM you want, regardless of carrier etc. Even though there were several varieties of the Sensation (XE etc), if you had SuperCID...your ROM options were endless. Look no further than the development forum for the One...quite frankly, it is incredible the amount of custom stuff that is available in that forum. Even before the phone was widely released, there were about 2 dozen of XDA's great devs, modders, themers, already pumping out ROM's & Kernels & Mods etc etc. All this with very little confusion or fuss on how to root and or what you can or can't flash etc.
I wish it were as simply as that for us. I can only imagine how amazing development would be for the S4, if it wasn't split up into 4-5 different forums.
Lastly...I would love to know if it will ever be possible to flash anything that's for the I9505 (for instance the ROM from Indie). If the GS4 can have SuperCID, or something similar...why would this not be possible?? Of course we've all heard that we should NEVER flash anything that's not specific to our Tmo GS4...and leaves me wondering just how involved development will be for the Tmo GS4. My question would be why is that not possible if the hardware is the same....regardless of carrier? What are the restrictions to flashing anything I9505 related...and will it ever be possible? Is there an actually hardware difference in the German Tmo I9505 and the US Tmo I9505??
I simply look at it from a perspective of less devs in one spot, means less development for each variant...and that kinda bums me out a bit.
Love to hear what you guys think about this...
Cheers! :good:

Blame the US carriers for split forums.
-Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note II using Tapatalk 2

Hoggles said:
Love to hear what you guys think about this...
Cheers! :good:
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The T-Mobile version is not the i9505, it is he M919. The i9505 is subtly different and is the only model of the GS4 to contain an FM radio.
The fragmentation is due in part to what the previous poster noted; us carriers; and LTE. The Sensation was not ever released on CDMA networks, it was GSM only and all models had the same hardware, including the actual radios. This is why the development was in one section, because all the devices were the same hardware, with only slight software differences depending on region/carrier.
The i9500 is the technological dream of the masterminds at Samsung flexing their muscles as a super power. The vast majority of the components are made directly by them including the revolutionary CPU and screen. I cannot think of any other company that does this. The entry model on these units is rarely catered to the us market (think original GS2, GS3, original Note) and usually sees a second generation to add support for CDMA and or LTE (Think carrier branded GS2, GS3, Note).
The I9505 & Carrier branded versions utilize a different SoC to accommodate for global demand. Most qualcomm chips these days are being mass produced and have LTE/CDMA worked out in their design initially. I makes it easy for sammy to push out more units in a quicker amount of time.

Hoggles said:
I wanted to start a discussion about one thing that I see as a drawback to Samsung development. I'd love to hear peoples thoughts about it and what their experience was on previous Galaxy devices.
I just got this incredible beast of a phone last Tuesday...and....I LOVE it.
This is my first Sammy device, coming from all HTC phones for the last several years. One major thing that has concerned me is the lack of cohesive development, simply due to the fact that Samsung releases so many variants of the GS4 (or do they?).
The one main thing HTC has going for them in regards to phones & development, is that there is usually only one main forum for all your needs. For instance, my old Sensation...all you have to do is SuperCID & have S-OFF and you can flash any ROM you want, regardless of carrier etc. Even though there were several varieties of the Sensation (XE etc), if you had SuperCID...your ROM options were endless. Look no further than the development forum for the One...quite frankly, it is incredible the amount of custom stuff that is available in that forum. Even before the phone was widely released, there were about 2 dozen of XDA's great devs, modders, themers, already pumping out ROM's & Kernels & Mods etc etc. All this with very little confusion or fuss on how to root and or what you can or can't flash etc.
I wish it were as simply as that for us. I can only imagine how amazing development would be for the S4, if it wasn't split up into 4-5 different forums.
Lastly...I would love to know if it will ever be possible to flash anything that's for the I9505 (for instance the ROM from Indie). If the GS4 can have SuperCID, or something similar...why would this not be possible?? Of course we've all heard that we should NEVER flash anything that's not specific to our Tmo GS4...and leaves me wondering just how involved development will be for the Tmo GS4. My question would be why is that not possible if the hardware is the same....regardless of carrier? What are the restrictions to flashing anything I9505 related...and will it ever be possible? Is there an actually hardware difference in the German Tmo I9505 and the US Tmo I9505??
I simply look at it from a perspective of less devs in one spot, means less development for each variant...and that kinda bums me out a bit.
Love to hear what you guys think about this...
Cheers! :good:
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You're spot on. I had the HTC Sensation as well. I currently have the HTC One. I can def say that HTC retains the crown when it comes to consumer development. They even launched a website to unlock your device in response to so many requests for it.
What has Samsung done? Well, most recently they pushed an update that locked out root at the kernel level. Boo!
From what I've seen thus far (and yes I know it's still early) there has been a very weak response in the dev department for the T-Mobile variant of this device. It has been out for a couple of weeks now and we still don't have a PIT file posted anywhere. So if anyone hit a worst case scenario, they would be unable to fully wipe their phone and use an ODIN tar to return to stock. On that note, we don't even have a virgin untouched tar of the stock firmware (MDL that has tweaked kernel) for ODIN. A couple of the deodexed and zip-aligned flashable packages that were posted have slight changes made to them - we NEED untouched flashable zips. Don't post something as "stock" if you have modified the firmware.
All in all, we have had a very rocky start on this T-Mobile variant. I'm contemplating buying the device for a couple of the old Team Whiskey guys and starting our own team for this. There is a lot of work to be done, yet. And this device has a lot of potential.
Some of you may be offended by this and some of you may be rolling your eyes. That's fine. But these are my two cents.
On a brighter note... I'm hoping for a massive response once source drops.

luckyduck69 said:
You're spot on. I had the HTC Sensation as well. I currently have the HTC One. I can def say that HTC retains the crown when it comes to consumer development. They even launched a website to unlock your device in response to so many requests for it.
What has Samsung done? Well, most recently they pushed an update that locked out root at the kernel level. Boo!
From what I've seen thus far (and yes I know it's still early) there has been a very weak response in the dev department for the T-Mobile variant of this device. It has been out for a couple of weeks now and we still don't have a PIT file posted anywhere. So if anyone hit a worst case scenario, they would be unable to fully wipe their phone and use an ODIN tar to return to stock. On that note, we don't even have a virgin untouched tar of the stock firmware (MDL that has tweaked kernel) for ODIN. A couple of the deodexed and zip-aligned flashable packages that were posted have slight changes made to them - we NEED untouched flashable zips. Don't post something as "stock" if you have modified the firmware.
All in all, we have had a very rocky start on this T-Mobile variant. I'm contemplating buying the device for a couple of the old Team Whiskey guys and starting our own team for this. There is a lot of work to be done, yet. And this device has a lot of potential.
Some of you may be offended by this and some of you may be rolling your eyes. That's fine. But these are my two cents.
On a brighter note... I'm hoping for a massive response once source drops.
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Wrong. There is already stock ODIN files on here and sammible. You do not need a .pit to flash an MD5 and the T-Mo Note 2 didn't have one either in the dev sections. Yes Samsung has included a new revision in their kernel to lock out root access, big deal. We are a group of developers here dedicated to outsmarting the man and doing things our own way. The i9500 already has the newest kernel built from source with the 1 flag (yes, it's one flag) circumvented. HTC doen't even have an official RUU available yet, and their HTC dev site records your IMEI to refuse you warranty service lol. I would suggest you read up some more before offering up your two cents, because based on what you stated they are without warrant, and worthless.
Here's a link to the stock ODIN file since you missed it, http://www.hotfile.com/dl/213469534/9ff06bd/M919UVUAMDL_M919TMBAMDL_TMB.zip.html

KillaHurtz said:
Wrong. There is already stock ODIN files on here and sammible. You do not need a .pit to flash an MD5 and the T-Mo Note 2 didn't have one either in the dev sections. Yes Samsung has included a new revision in their kernel to lock out root access, big deal. We are a group of developers here dedicated to outsmarting the man and doing things our own way. The i9500 already has the newest kernel built from source with the 1 flag (yes, it's one flag) circumvented. HTC doen't even have an official RUU available yet, and their HTC dev site records your IMEI to refuse you warranty service lol. I would suggest you read up some more before offering up your two cents, because based on what you stated they are without warrant, and worthless.
Here's a link to the stock ODIN file since you missed it, http://www.hotfile.com/dl/213469534/9ff06bd/M919UVUAMDL_M919TMBAMDL_TMB.zip.html
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No... I don't think you understand.
Of course you don't "need" a PIT file. But do you understand what that is used for? I encourage you to try this.
1. Run the latest update. The virgin, str8 from kies, MDL update. You'll have the root-block kernel and everything.
2. Now try to ODIN back to the previous firmware using THIS MDB tar file.
I think you will find you are unable to successfully return to the fully stock MDB firmware. That tar file alone will not wipe anything. It will seem to flash via ODIN. But once you reboot... you'll still have your MDL firmware installed (sorta). You might suggest installing CWM or TWRP Recovery here. Well... you can try. I did. You will run into some interesting issues. LIke not being able to get into ANY recovery until you perform a full reset from within the system settings menu. Then suddenly finding your way into the stock android recovery. At which point you'll do a factory reset/wipe from the stock android recovery. Then you WILL be able to install CWM Recovery and flash... oh wait. There is no completely stock flashable firmware package. Those we do have are found HERE and have had things removed.
I'll give you another example. Let's say you soft brick your phone. You need to do a restore via ODIN. But you also need to wipe it completely. What are you going to do? You can't get to recovery. Can't load the system. You need to do a full wipe and factory restore. How are you doing to do that without the Partition Information Table and ODIN?
As for warranty... technically we're all void of warranty so why does it matter? We all void the warranty as soon as we start flashing. That is why all the devs put that disclaimer in their OPs.
Furthermore, while its kinda cool that you went straight into defensive mode, I wasn't bashing anyone. I'm just saying we need to pick it up and get the right files out there for the ppl who don't know how to fix things on their own and so forth. If I need to I'll take one of my computers off of Folding and turn it into a dev box so I can help out.
Love, Peace, and Chicken Grease :good:

All you need is the ODIN file I provided (MDL). After that you can enter the stock recovery and wipe the data as needed.
If you are completely bricked (cannot enter download mode) Samsung will warranty the phone for a new one.
It's not defensive that I am being. I could careless if you brick your phone lol, I am only providing facts that you seemed to miss.
The .pit file is usually used if you have borked the phone from all recognition and need to tell the device what to flash where as it sets the maps for the partitions.
Your original post said nothing of having to wipe or anything else you just disclosed which is still incorrect to an extent.
We all know that stock ODIN files do not wipe data, but with the files I posted you will not need to go back to a lower firmware in the 1st place and will not be locked out of the system or recovery....
If you are concerned with a stock .pit file, make one from Heimdall. Or, are you one of the ones "who don't know how to fix things on their own" ?

KillaHurtz said:
All you need is the ODIN file I provided (MDL). After that you can enter the stock recovery and wipe the data as needed.
If you are completely bricked (cannot enter download mode) Samsung will warranty the phone for a new one.
It's not defensive that I am being. I could careless if you brick your phone lol, I am only providing facts that you seemed to miss.
The .pit file is usually used if you have borked the phone from all recognition and need to tell the device what to flash where as it sets the maps for the partitions.
Your original post said nothing of having to wipe or anything else you just disclosed which is still incorrect to an extent.
We all know that stock ODIN files do not wipe data, but with the files I posted you will not need to go back to a lower firmware in the 1st place and will not be locked out of the system or recovery....
If you are concerned with a stock .pit file, make one from Heimdall. Or, are you one of the ones "who don't know how to fix things on their own" ?
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Nah. Benji was cleaning up the code last night. But he did tell me that Heimdall 1.4 will be officially released in a few hours. And that he confirmed it working on his Sprint S4. Previous versions wont detect our snapdragon device.
As for your MDL ODIN file, you're still missing the point. But im going to drop it.
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