So I got my new galaxy 10.1 usb adapter. I was eager to try it and plugged in some usb drives, and multi memory card reader. I was hoping that memory card reader will see some of my sd cards. This could be awesome since I can carry movies/music/data/etc.
After trying some devices, I’m really, really, really, really disappointed. I'm hoping that I got a defective product and others had better luck.
I have tried 6 different usb drives. The size ranges from 512m to 12g. Out of 6 drives, only 4 of them were able to read . It failed to read/mount the 12g usb drive. I was very disappointed by this. My computer was able to read all of them. Some of the brands included lexar, data traveler, no game brand, Kingston, and pny. The no name brand works really well.
Since usb drive test was somewhat disappointing, I tried the memory card reader. I plugged the usb cable to usb adapter, and plugged in the memory card reader. It FAILED to read all my sd cards. I only tried 4, but they all failed. The brands included scandisk, pny, transcend, and Kingston. By the way, the memory card reader works on my computer, and it reads all the sd cards.
Finally, I tried couple of usb game controller, one no name brand, and other ps3. It seems to recognize that it’s an usb device, but that’s as far as I got. I thought maybe I need some software from the market to make those work, however, I did not find anything. I tried some emulators, and few games, but it did not work. I did read that galaxy tab supports gaming controller. Well, there goes that theory.
Maybe I’m not doing things correctly, or this usb adapter does not support everything that I wanted. (usb drive , memory card reader , and game controller . I didn’t even try keyboard or mouse. At this point, I don’t even care)
I welcome being schooled, if someone can help me make this work.
Is anyone else having issues? Or is it just me? If you have the usb adapter, please chime in. I’m curious, what works and what doesn’t.
received mine as well. I have tried keyboard and a wireless mouse adapter which worked wonderfully.
I also tried a third party xbox 360 controller to no avail. A quick google search said that android 3.1 may face limitations based on manufacturers, but not the software itself.
Here's what I have confirmed will work stock so far:
FAT32-formatted drives (Tested so far - Corsair 16GB thumb drive, 16GB Transcend Class 6 SDHC in a Rosewill SD card reader)
In the case of the latter I could see files but didn't try opening any - I know my tab doesn't support Pentax PEF format. Also, I put the SDHC into the reader before putting the reader into the tab, and put the reader into the USB dongle before putting the USB dongle into the tab.
Here's what I know will NOT work stock, but in theory should be usable with some work/tricks:
NTFS drives (requires a module from pershoot's optional "lib" archive of his kernels, and I think some manual mount magic)
PS3 controllers (requires a module from pershoot's optional "lib" archive, I have not tested this yet)
Xbox360 controllers (same deal as PS3 controllers)
I totally forgot to check the format. It didn't even occure to me. I got to reformat every drive, and try it again.
Have you guys try any type of memeory card readers?
I received mine today and I am also disappointed. One of the main things I wanted to do with it was to transfer files from my phone to the tablet. When I plug it in, it is recognized by the tablet, but it fails to connect. Does anyone know if this is something that is possible? It reads an old 1GB USB drive just fine.
I tried using the adapter with a bunch of devices (NTFS external hard drive, FAT32 16GB thumb drive, and the Xbox 360 Wireless Gaming Receiver [the thing that lets me connect a wireless controller to a PC]) and so far only the FAT32 16GB thumb drive works. Now, I understand I need the "lib" archive, but would that optional "lib" archive also allow the wireless gaming receiver to work?
jeff.hillman said:
I received mine today and I am also disappointed. One of the main things I wanted to do with it was to transfer files from my phone to the tablet. When I plug it in, it is recognized by the tablet, but it fails to connect. Does anyone know if this is something that is possible? It reads an old 1GB USB drive just fine.
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I was hoping for this as well. I'll just have to sick with Bluetooth as the method for transferring files to and from my phone & tablet.
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Well for the memory cards fat32 should work fine.controllers definitely don't work. I called them and rhett said they don't know anything about the controllers.no issues yet. Please call them up to make it an issue. 3.1 allows controllers. Samsung doesn't allow. The only way I can see using game controllers right now is to root. Really really sucks. Very mad.
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From the "for what its worth" department...
I tried a Lexar 1GB SD card formatted as FAT, plugged into a DigitalMatrix SD USB Card reader.
No joy.
I reformatted as FAT32 and tried again. No joy, but I got an error, "USB device is not working properly" or some such notice.
I then powered down (all the way) the tablet and restarted it with the SD Card/USB card reader/Samsung adapter all plugged in to the Tab.
It started up and recognized the USB adapter and storage.
Just realized something. It only takes externally powered devices. Controllers won't work. No controllers I know of plug into the wall. Controllers gave their own supply but to get them to sync to devices they use the device power. No controller for the galaxy tab unless they issue a usb adap that supplies power. Heard rumors they might be in the works. But I may just return mine and get the sony s1 or the s2
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Well for the memory cards fat32 should work fine.controllers definitely don't work. I called them and rhett said they don't know anything about the controllers.no issues yet. Please call them up to make it an issue. 3.1 allows controllers. Samsung doesn't allow. The only way I can see using game controllers right now is to root. Really really sucks. Very mad.
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Samsung allows controllers - I just tested a Nyko USB gamepad and it worked fine.
HC3.1 supports standard USB HID controllers. The Xbox 360 and PS3 pads are NOT in this category - these are nonstandard devices that were never meant to be used with anything other than their host systems, which is why any host running any OS needs special nonstandard drivers or software to interface with them. Samsung is under no obligation to support game controllers that were never designed to hook up to anything other than their respective systems to begin with.
Edit: The Tab 10.1 does not have any requirement for the device to be externally powered. However, the Tab is not capable of supplying the full 500 mA that some devices (such as spinning hard drives) require. If the tab required ALL devices to be externally powered, thumb drives wouldn't work. Controllers are usually low-current devices (exception: ones with vibration might exceed the current limits when they vibe) - the Tab will give you a specific error telling you that a device drew too much current I believe.
Edit 2: PS3 controllers will try to recharge their battery if connected to a USB host. This will cause an overcurrent error if the battery is not already charged. As mentioned above, since PS3 controllers are not a standard HID device they require a special kernel module to be loaded, hid-sony from pershoot's lib archive if you're running one of his kernels.
Well, I'm glad that I wasn't the only one with issues. I did reformat the usb drives, and 5 out of 6 works. One still doesn't want to play nice.
My memory card reader is still no go. I will have to try with powered usb hub, but I can't seem to find mine. I'll have wait until Monday when I get to work.
It was nice thought that I could use the game pads that I already own, (xbox 360/ps3). Hopefully someone can figure a way to make it work.
I just found couple of my old usb game pads and they do work.
Also, I tried my old ps2 controller with radio shack usb adapter, and surprisingly it works. I was very amused. Too bad wire is all over the place.
Also, one of the down fall of usb adapter is that I can’t use my case as stand.
I have Belkin,Verve Folio Case, and I can’t fold them over with the adapter. Or charge the galaxy tab with the case closed. oh well.
Oh. Ok. So I will try to fully charge my controller. Plus I will just try my old six axis ps3 controller since no dual shock. I dont have any pc conteollers. But thanks for the help.
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@poorl
Put your tab in your case upside down. Use the camera opening for the cable wire. Thats what I do. Doeant close right but it works
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Samsung allows controllers - I just tested a Nyko USB gamepad and it worked fine.
HC3.1 supports standard USB HID controllers. The Xbox 360 and PS3 pads are NOT in this category - these are nonstandard devices that were never meant to be used with anything other than their host systems, which is why any host running any OS needs special nonstandard drivers or software to interface with them. Samsung is under no obligation to support game controllers that were never designed to hook up to anything other than their respective systems to begin with.
Edit: The Tab 10.1 does not have any requirement for the device to be externally powered. However, the Tab is not capable of supplying the full 500 mA that some devices (such as spinning hard drives) require. If the tab required ALL devices to be externally powered, thumb drives wouldn't work. Controllers are usually low-current devices (exception: ones with vibration might exceed the current limits when they vibe) - the Tab will give you a specific error telling you that a device drew too much current I believe.
Edit 2: PS3 controllers will try to recharge their battery if connected to a USB host. This will cause an overcurrent error if the battery is not already charged. As mentioned above, since PS3 controllers are not a standard HID device they require a special kernel module to be loaded, hid-sony from pershoot's lib archive if you're running one of his kernels.
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Thanks for the info. I looked up some info and it said<a href="http://www.ps3.jim.sh/sixaxis/usb/> this</a>. But I tried charging and it seems to me that I need a third party controller or a pc controller. I have a stock device. Haven't had a reason to root. I still the message high powered device. It seems that I am the only one to ever get that message cause samsung said they don't know what it means either. Has anyone gotten that message and was able to actually read it. But it seems I will have to root in order to get it to work. I bought mine with an unlocked bootloader.(aren't I lucky) I can't find anythreads to root my tab.our at least none that consistently work. Most are for locked bootloaders.
Patriot Rage XT 32gb works perfectly. I have 2 USB gamepads for PC. Logitech not working at all, although i see usb connected. An old Microsoft gamepad with USB adapter works better. I tried to play Mario 64. Dpad and sensor work but none of the buttons seem to work. When in settings I try to remap the buttons. It clicks but the emulator does not catch (memorize) them. BTW I use a Satechi R1 Stand. It is very well done. Now I need a working game controller.
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Patriot Rage XT 32gb works perfectly. I have 2 USB gamepads for PC. Logitech not working at all, although i see usb connected. An old Microsoft gamepad with USB adapter works better. I tried to play Mario 64. Dpad and sensor work but none of the buttons seem to work. When in settings I try to remap the buttons. It clicks but the emulator does not catch (memorize) them. BTW I use a Satechi R1 Stand. It is very well done. Now I need a working game controller.
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Which N64 emulator? Yongzh's N64oid? Yongzh's emulators seem to have issues with catching a lot of buttons as "<unknown>" which don't work in the emulator.
My Nyko works great with SNES9x EX, but not with SNESoid.
Fat 32 thumb drive, Sd card reader both work.
Ntfs drive, xbox controllers official and mad catz wired failed to work.
Using touch wiz rom.
Out of curiosity, if you got your SD card from Samsung where did they ship from?
I noticed my tracking info said that my package accepted/picked up at 7:24 pm on July 16, 2011 in NORTH HOUSTON, TX 77315. It's not scheduled to arrive at my home until July 21st.
I ask this because if I am reading this correctly it is taking my SD adapter 5 days, 3 if I go business days to reach me at my home which also happens to be in North Houston. I literally could walk there, pick it up, and walk back home before mine will arrive in the mail.
Sorry to ramble on, just seems like with whatever Samsung device I buy I always seem to be waiting on something to make it work.
Having trouble accessing external hard drive. I have a USB thumbdrive, formatted to FAT32, and the tab will not even detect it. I tried a external hard drive, it has its own power adapter, formatted to fat32, still can't see it. The USB and External Hard Drive works fine on my S3 and my Note 3. Is this a hardware limitation?
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Having trouble accessing external hard drive. I have a USB thumbdrive, formatted to FAT32, and the tab will not even detect it. I tried a external hard drive, it has its own power adapter, formatted to fat32, still can't see it. The USB and External Hard Drive works fine on my S3 and my Note 3. Is this a hardware limitation?
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AFAIK yes, the ground pin is left out, so no hardware support plus kernel support is missing in standard ROMs as well. See this thread as well. Someone said you can build a special USB OTG cable with own power support, but I haven't tried for myself.
My S3 and 3 8.0 both detect my 16gb thumb drive using the Samsung dongle.
I will probably get a 32gb thumb drive today, and also test it.
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I have the Samsung galaxy tab s 10.5 and I would like to know if a 256g flash drive will work? I watch movies and TV shows on the go, 64g is not enough (the Simpsons season 1 - 25 needs about 100g) I don't have a computer anymore just my tablet. I bought the seagate wireless plus 1tb and I couldn't get it to work, don't want to order a 256g flash drive and have same trouble. Any help would be great
Sorry no I am not rooted and due to the fact that I use my Samsung allshare cast hub daily and root items can't use the hub
Anyone?
Don't you mean SD card.? Some people say the highest you can go is 64 or 128gb
128 GB is the highest you can go
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He probably means OTG cable with a hard drive. Simple drives tend to work the larger drives need more power to work via USB.
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There is an available of cable that's a "y".....one leg is the USB and the other is another female micro USB for your charging cable. Can't remember where on ebay I got mine but it does work for my external hard drives with my GS5
128gb sd card is not big enough so I thought k would try a 256gb OTG flash drive. Has anyone tested?
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128gb sd card is not big enough so I thought k would try a 256gb OTG flash drive. Has anyone tested?
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This question left me extremely curious, so I have just purchased an OTG cable which will arrive in a few days. I will test out a few different EXT HDD sizes and post what the maximum my OTG will allow.
I do however forsee an increase in the discharge of the battery for larger storage devices, but we shall see.
Can't wait to see what u find
I'm gonna buy a sandisk ultra 64gb microUSB otg and I was looking for a bigger one but this must be the biggest one they have, can't wait to test it out. What I'll do is if my shows or movies won't fit I'm gonna have to erase the ones I've seen then try to make them fit. I suggest you get a 128gb micro SD card plus a big sized flash drive then you should be okay.
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So I bought an OTG cable off ebay, and it arrived. I didn't change the format of any of my external drives as I don't have the space to store anything currently anywhere else. The tablet registers there is a drive connected however it can't mount the storage device due to an unknown format. The externals I tried were 2 portables (1x 500Gb usb2.0 and 1x 1Tb usb 3.0) and 2 desktops (1x 1.5Tb and 1x 1Tb both usb 2.0). Over the next few days I will attempt to reformat the 500 Gb and 1Tb portables, and the 1Tb desktop and see if that produces any results. Due to work constraints this may take a few days, so thank you for patience. Results will be posted as soon as possible. Current format of all the externals is default NTFS.
Another Option
There's another option in which would require multiple devices unfortunately due to the limited storage. Its a product I currently use myself called "Toshiba Duo 2 in 1.
http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/...flash-drive-toduo64grd?searchTerm=Toshina Duo
Unfortunately I am still working on my other drives. There's is a lot of moving data around (limited to USB 2.0 speeds), so please keep posted on my other externals.
Is anyone aware of a way to get an RK3188 unit to work with a USB3 drive?
Are there any software fixes or ROMs that support USB3?
I have a 1TB Seagate Expansion portable drive that I am hoping to use with mine, but connecting it up leads to fairly rapid problems and reboots.
The first time I did so (formatted to FAT32), the unit only recognised it as 200GB and so I re-formatted it on the device. From this point on it causes a crash, followed by getting stuck at the boot animation any time I connect it.
I have a USB2 caddy and am happy to transfer the 1TB HD into this if required, but would much prefer to stick to USB3 if possible.
Any ideas?
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Is anyone aware of a way to get an RK3188 unit to work with a USB3 drive?
Are there any software fixes or ROMs that support USB3?
I have a 1TB Seagate Expansion portable drive that I am hoping to use with mine, but connecting it up leads to fairly rapid problems and reboots.
The first time I did so (formatted to FAT32), the unit only recognised it as 200GB and so I re-formatted it on the device. From this point on it causes a crash, followed by getting stuck at the boot animation any time I connect it.
I have a USB2 caddy and am happy to transfer the 1TB HD into this if required, but would much prefer to stick to USB3 if possible.
Any ideas?
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For now there is no support for 3.0 whatsoever on these units. Some people however did report a 1TB external HDD to be supported, most likely externaly powered.
None include usb3.0 ports. Your harddrive should still be backward compatible and run at the slower speed, however would need a power source as provided power is weak
Hi all,
So, I just picked up a Samsung Tab S4, near new (in box), at my local pawn shop for $280.
It had no sign of ever having been used, smokin' deal, eh?
Quite the upgrade from my Fire 10, no?
I also found a likewise near new (in box), still wrapped in plastic, Seagate Slim (2 TB) for $20.
On a roll, right?
So, I've come here to ask...
1)Is it possible to view video directly off the hd?
2)If so, what power pass thru cable or dongle has anyone found to work well?
3)Lastly, for power I would like to be portable, so would a standard brick work or do I need a PD or IQ specific type?
I see there are plenty of dongles out there ranging from $15 - $75...any suggestions?
Simplest setup would work for me, especially if there was a cable alone I could use, I don't need a ton of ports.
Thanks, really!
Bill in Western Colorado
So the short answer is yes you can play videos. The long answer is that your drive is likely formatted NTFS and while there are work around and apps that will let you utilize drives formatted as NTFS, I've found it just isn't reliable, convenient or consistent using an NTFS drive. Mine is a 1 TB drive. The problem with Fat32 is that there are partition size restrictions and file size restrictions - there are supposedly work arounds for the partition size limits, but files can't be bigger than 4GB. And some video files, particularly iso's, are bigger than 4GB. I think you are better off buying a 512gb or 1tb micro sd card and storing the video locally.
There are multiple threads discussing power formats and powered usb hubs. Mostly the hube will have full size usb 3.0 ports.
Power is complicated. Samsung does not use / is not compatible with PD or iq, and is not fully compatible with QC. They use a modified version of QC 2.0.
Here are some threads
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...st-combination-charger-hdmi-adapters-t3927308
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s4/accessories/power-supplies-tab-s4-t3891637
This is a few months old, but I thought I would revisit my reply. I may have been too quickly dismissive of the external hard drive idea.
I have a 1TB external USB 3.1 drive. It was formatted NTFS, and did Not play well with Android, even using Paragon's NTFS for Android. As I pointed out, exFat is restricted to 4GB max file size, and I had some ISO disk images on my drive. I had a total of about 600GB on the drive, about half video back up, the other half split between music library backup, twentyish years of digital images, and twentyish years of desktop document backups. The data I use most is my 3000+ book Calibre library. I also had two full size internal hard drives that I had pulled from my last desktop (and never replaced), along with a SATA1 to USB 3.0 powered adaptor.
So I backed up the video to one of the 500GB drives, the rest to the other, and reformatted the 1TB drive as exFat32. Then I copied the video excluding the few large ISO images along with "the rest" back to the reformatted 1TB drive. I was surprised there weren't any other files > 4GB.
I have two cables for the 1TB hard drive -- it has a wide bladed "micro B" port that carries power and data simultaneously. I have a USB 3.0 to micro B, and a USB C to micro B. So it works well, with both cables. With a hub, I can plug power + USB 3.0 hard drive cable to the tablet. With the USB C cable I can directly connect the hard drive to the tablet, and have experienced no problems with power delivery -- drive works fine, no stutters, but I don't know how fast the drain on the battery is. Certianly, you can copy files back and forth without issue. Browsing with Solid Explorer works well.
I still think you are better served with internal micro SD memory. I recently upgraded my 400GB micro SD card to a faster, 512GB PNY card for $90.
Many USB C hubs also have a micro SD card slot, so you can turn the hubs directly into a solid state hard drive with a cheap micro SD card -- if you have an old card, like I have the 400GB card I pulled, or you can buy a newer 256GB card for under $50. I have to imagine the power draw is much less, and the form factor is greatly superior -- my USB C Hub is ~ 40% smaller in volume, and is only 40gm versus 170gm for the hard drive (that is, a little under 2oz, and the hard drive is a little over 6oz). The micro SD card slot on the hub is spring loaded, and when it is loaded, the front of the card is virtually flush with the front of the hub. And it is easy to pop it into and SD card adaptor to put into a laptop.
Take care,
Joe