Power pass thru with a Seagate Slim. - Samsung Galaxy Tab S4 Questions & Answers

Hi all,
So, I just picked up a Samsung Tab S4, near new (in box), at my local pawn shop for $280.
It had no sign of ever having been used, smokin' deal, eh?
Quite the upgrade from my Fire 10, no?
I also found a likewise near new (in box), still wrapped in plastic, Seagate Slim (2 TB) for $20.
On a roll, right?
So, I've come here to ask...
1)Is it possible to view video directly off the hd?
2)If so, what power pass thru cable or dongle has anyone found to work well?
3)Lastly, for power I would like to be portable, so would a standard brick work or do I need a PD or IQ specific type?
I see there are plenty of dongles out there ranging from $15 - $75...any suggestions?
Simplest setup would work for me, especially if there was a cable alone I could use, I don't need a ton of ports.
Thanks, really!
Bill in Western Colorado

So the short answer is yes you can play videos. The long answer is that your drive is likely formatted NTFS and while there are work around and apps that will let you utilize drives formatted as NTFS, I've found it just isn't reliable, convenient or consistent using an NTFS drive. Mine is a 1 TB drive. The problem with Fat32 is that there are partition size restrictions and file size restrictions - there are supposedly work arounds for the partition size limits, but files can't be bigger than 4GB. And some video files, particularly iso's, are bigger than 4GB. I think you are better off buying a 512gb or 1tb micro sd card and storing the video locally.
There are multiple threads discussing power formats and powered usb hubs. Mostly the hube will have full size usb 3.0 ports.
Power is complicated. Samsung does not use / is not compatible with PD or iq, and is not fully compatible with QC. They use a modified version of QC 2.0.
Here are some threads
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...st-combination-charger-hdmi-adapters-t3927308
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s4/accessories/power-supplies-tab-s4-t3891637

This is a few months old, but I thought I would revisit my reply. I may have been too quickly dismissive of the external hard drive idea.
I have a 1TB external USB 3.1 drive. It was formatted NTFS, and did Not play well with Android, even using Paragon's NTFS for Android. As I pointed out, exFat is restricted to 4GB max file size, and I had some ISO disk images on my drive. I had a total of about 600GB on the drive, about half video back up, the other half split between music library backup, twentyish years of digital images, and twentyish years of desktop document backups. The data I use most is my 3000+ book Calibre library. I also had two full size internal hard drives that I had pulled from my last desktop (and never replaced), along with a SATA1 to USB 3.0 powered adaptor.
So I backed up the video to one of the 500GB drives, the rest to the other, and reformatted the 1TB drive as exFat32. Then I copied the video excluding the few large ISO images along with "the rest" back to the reformatted 1TB drive. I was surprised there weren't any other files > 4GB.
I have two cables for the 1TB hard drive -- it has a wide bladed "micro B" port that carries power and data simultaneously. I have a USB 3.0 to micro B, and a USB C to micro B. So it works well, with both cables. With a hub, I can plug power + USB 3.0 hard drive cable to the tablet. With the USB C cable I can directly connect the hard drive to the tablet, and have experienced no problems with power delivery -- drive works fine, no stutters, but I don't know how fast the drain on the battery is. Certianly, you can copy files back and forth without issue. Browsing with Solid Explorer works well.
I still think you are better served with internal micro SD memory. I recently upgraded my 400GB micro SD card to a faster, 512GB PNY card for $90.
Many USB C hubs also have a micro SD card slot, so you can turn the hubs directly into a solid state hard drive with a cheap micro SD card -- if you have an old card, like I have the 400GB card I pulled, or you can buy a newer 256GB card for under $50. I have to imagine the power draw is much less, and the form factor is greatly superior -- my USB C Hub is ~ 40% smaller in volume, and is only 40gm versus 170gm for the hard drive (that is, a little under 2oz, and the hard drive is a little over 6oz). The micro SD card slot on the hub is spring loaded, and when it is loaded, the front of the card is virtually flush with the front of the hub. And it is easy to pop it into and SD card adaptor to put into a laptop.
Take care,
Joe

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SD card reader?

Hey guys, is there an external card reader that would plug into the micro USB port on the captivate? I've been searching for a while but all I can find is micro SD to SD card adapters when I would like to import photos from a camera right into the phone
It would be a shame to have to just use micro SD cards to use the internal slot. Thanks!
phrenicthenub said:
Hey guys, is there an external card reader that would plug into the micro USB port on the captivate? I've been searching for a while but all I can find is micro SD to SD card adapters when I would like to import photos from a camera right into the phone
It would be a shame to have to just use micro SD cards to use the internal slot. Thanks!
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I dont know of one that exists. But if youre trying to import your pictures you are going to be better off just inserting the micro sd into your phone and then copying all the image files to the phone. Its essentially the same process you would do if you had an external SD card reader except you actually have to put the SD card in the phone.
here u go.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PCS-New-US...e_Internal&hash=item256a3d60c1#ht_1629wt_1144
I'm not sure that there is such a beast that would plug into the microUSB, and if there was, I'm not certain that the Captivate has the functionality/interface to read and copy from the microUSB Slot. I'm pretty sure you need the computer as a go-between if the microSD isn't in the phone itself.
I think your best bet is directly putting the microSD from the Camera into the Cappy or you'll have to upload them to the computer first, then to the phone. Sorry
I've always wanted something like that, its a great idea but such a thing doesn't exist. Closest thing would be to get the flash drive adapter with the microSD slot built in.
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Yeah, that's not really possible. For one thing it's a jack, not a plug. For another, it would need to power the device attached to it while still being able to be powered from the same port for charging. For another, it would need to be able to configure as a device or a host which would really be hard. And another, it would need to have drivers for SD readers, FAT, NTFS, and all kinds of other things.
this would probably be you best bet
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450298
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Wow. I stand corrected. That's a really flexible controller chip. They should have shown a backup battery being used as well in the pics too.
a kernel with USB HOST mode,
a USB OTG cable
a USB to micro USB cable
a USB card reader
a SD to microSD adapter.
and you can do exactly what you want....
but you will need a back pack to carry all your cables and adapters.
One step could be saved with this
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/451581054/XLY_USB_014_USB_Y_Cable.html
But nobody sells it, and who wants to splice USB cables?
This one?
Like this one?
http://www.hkbolton.com/Sumsung-Galaxy-OTG-Micro-USB-Card-Reader-p45.html
I'm looking for the same.
How about this?
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/otg-card-reader-for-samsung-galaxy-i9100-i9220-126457?item=7
This part is odd:
- With own browser and ES browser
- File system format: FAT32 (does not support NTFS)
in general for any phone or tablet
an external hardrive like 1 or 1.5TB with USB will be a dream, u can power the drive with extra USB. But what about powering device with the screen? I think it will run out of juice much faster in this kind of setup. Your thoughts?
From the research I have done, it requires an org cable, an USB y-cable for hooking up an external power, and a from with org support. The two cables can be found on Amazon for 2-5$. You could use any USB charger or for portability... get one of the battery packs with USB output. Portable, but it is a lot to carry around.
You can also use a powered USB hub in place of the y cable.
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300 GB Hard Drive

Hey guys I bought a usb otg cable and everything connects fine, except this 300gb hard drive I have, I've tested with several different 300gb+ drives and none of them connect, could it be because they are NTFS?
I'm on stock, not rooted
I think that may be the problem. Android likes FAT. I know that for older phones there have been threads on XDA with mods for allowing android to mount NTFS volumes (called NTFS mounter), probably just a matter of time until that functionality is brought to the S3.
Thanks, I guess I'll wait
You need a mod or app of some sort to handle NTFS drives. There are some in the Play Store that people have reported will do this...
However, there might be another problem. When I connect my 1TB WD Passport with USB OTG, it beeps and the HD light flashes...I believe it's indicating that the phone does not supply enough power via USB to run the hard drive. I can tell the drive is not spinning.
I'm not sure if this is the case for all portable drives...and I imagine it's not an issue with a larger externally powered drive.

Ravpower RP-WD01 Wi-Fi card reader

I just received this. It works - although the win7 app "mobilefun" can't seem to find it. Will mess around with this.
When plugged in by USB X2 on Win7 computer sees it just find although only the SD card and not the USB storage.
"appstor" on Google Play works fine with wi-fi. Was able to watch mp4 and view pics just fine as well as access both the SD card and the USB stick. So I now have a total of 64gb SD and 32gb USB stick. Nice!
here is a review on xda:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169383
I have had one for about 6 months now. I have a 64gig sd card with around 30 of my sons movies on it for when we go on trips. Its been on great to have. works with my android as well as my ipad. For 40 bucks you cant beat it.
Love my seagate wireless
I have seagate wireless plus since about a year and its simply great in terms of storage. not only just as wireless drive but as normal USB drive too.
I have to say the biggest advantage to the Ravpower is that I have the 64 gig card with all my sons movies that he can access. As my son is only 7, I am careful as to what he can watch. If I want to watch a move I just plug my usb drive that holds a 32 gig SD card with my movies. Also if I take my roku on travel I can slip either my SD card or my sons SD card and we can watch a movie in our room by hooking the Roku up to the TV's HDMI port.
Good find! I have the ALL In 1 EasyAcc device, which is about the same price. It's black (and only available in black), has a built-in FTP server (and unadvertised SMB server!) and a much larger internal battery (8800mah). Other than that it's similar to the Ravpower model, but it's always nice to have choices.
Glad people found my review helpful on the Ravpower Wifi-Disk. The review was also posted here on the Nexus 5 forums. Here's the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538371

Biggest Flash drive?

I have the Samsung galaxy tab s 10.5 and I would like to know if a 256g flash drive will work? I watch movies and TV shows on the go, 64g is not enough (the Simpsons season 1 - 25 needs about 100g) I don't have a computer anymore just my tablet. I bought the seagate wireless plus 1tb and I couldn't get it to work, don't want to order a 256g flash drive and have same trouble. Any help would be great
Sorry no I am not rooted and due to the fact that I use my Samsung allshare cast hub daily and root items can't use the hub
Anyone?
Don't you mean SD card.? Some people say the highest you can go is 64 or 128gb
128 GB is the highest you can go
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He probably means OTG cable with a hard drive. Simple drives tend to work the larger drives need more power to work via USB.
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There is an available of cable that's a "y".....one leg is the USB and the other is another female micro USB for your charging cable. Can't remember where on ebay I got mine but it does work for my external hard drives with my GS5
128gb sd card is not big enough so I thought k would try a 256gb OTG flash drive. Has anyone tested?
Guntert said:
128gb sd card is not big enough so I thought k would try a 256gb OTG flash drive. Has anyone tested?
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This question left me extremely curious, so I have just purchased an OTG cable which will arrive in a few days. I will test out a few different EXT HDD sizes and post what the maximum my OTG will allow.
I do however forsee an increase in the discharge of the battery for larger storage devices, but we shall see.
Can't wait to see what u find
I'm gonna buy a sandisk ultra 64gb microUSB otg and I was looking for a bigger one but this must be the biggest one they have, can't wait to test it out. What I'll do is if my shows or movies won't fit I'm gonna have to erase the ones I've seen then try to make them fit. I suggest you get a 128gb micro SD card plus a big sized flash drive then you should be okay.
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So I bought an OTG cable off ebay, and it arrived. I didn't change the format of any of my external drives as I don't have the space to store anything currently anywhere else. The tablet registers there is a drive connected however it can't mount the storage device due to an unknown format. The externals I tried were 2 portables (1x 500Gb usb2.0 and 1x 1Tb usb 3.0) and 2 desktops (1x 1.5Tb and 1x 1Tb both usb 2.0). Over the next few days I will attempt to reformat the 500 Gb and 1Tb portables, and the 1Tb desktop and see if that produces any results. Due to work constraints this may take a few days, so thank you for patience. Results will be posted as soon as possible. Current format of all the externals is default NTFS.
Another Option
There's another option in which would require multiple devices unfortunately due to the limited storage. Its a product I currently use myself called "Toshiba Duo 2 in 1.
http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/...flash-drive-toduo64grd?searchTerm=Toshina Duo
Unfortunately I am still working on my other drives. There's is a lot of moving data around (limited to USB 2.0 speeds), so please keep posted on my other externals.

Question Storage expansion

With most manufacturers removing micro SD card slot from their flagship phones, Oneplus included, has anyone been able to expand storage through USB OTG? I'm currently on a different older phone, which has micro SD card slot, and I recently expanded my storage by replacing 256GB card with 1TB one.
While my OP9Pro is on the way, I'm thinking of purchasing a small USB-C micro SD card OTG adapter (something like this: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B09L4NDV4T), unsolder the USB-C plug and insert a short ribbon cable between it and PCB. Then plug it into USB-C on the phone, and tuck the PCB with micro SD card inserted somewhere between the phone back cover and a case.
This obviously will require some case modding/dremeling to avoid bulges, but my biggest concern is whether or not I'm able to solder the microscopic leads on the USB-C connector and whether this whole setup will work anywhere close to internal micro SD card on older phones.
Am I dreaming or has anyone attempted this before?
Interesting idea, I'm curious how it works if you try it. Although I can't imagine needing that much internal storage all the time. I just have a dedicated 1TB USB-C flash drive that I copy stuff to that doesn't need to stay on my phone all the time.
terlynn4 said:
Interesting idea, I'm curious how it works if you try it. Although I can't imagine needing that much internal storage all the time. I just have a dedicated 1TB USB-C flash drive that I copy stuff to that doesn't need to stay on my phone all the time.
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I didn't mean that I need all 1TB right now. I went from 256GB -> 1TB and currently have over 550GB free space left. However, I do backups (apps, using SwiftBackup, and TWRP backups). App backups must be on the phone all the time, since it's automatic and syncs to OneDrive; TWRP don't have to, but I like to carry them around just in case.. I also save all camera photos/videos to SD card. So it all adds up, and 256GB on the phone that I'm getting will feel tight.
I'll try this idea and update this thread if it's at least somewhat successful.
Would it not be easier to get a lil usb c extension cable and somehow modify the phone case than the actual phone itself?
The storage expansion card for Xbox Series X/ S delivers an additional 1TB of external memory while maintaining the same peak speed and performance of the console's internal SSD for a streamlined gaming experience.
Unfortunately, guys, using USB OTG is not an option. I recently tried to use the above-mentioned USB-C adapter without worrying about it sticking out too much, just for the proof of concept, and found that the card gets too hot, i.e. it's using a lot of power. This will kill the battery very quickly.
So this makes the idea a non-starter.

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