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Should i get Xperia Arc?

As stated from title , im wish to get an xperia arc since its camera is good and used sony x10 , which was fun flashing custom roms. Just wondering whether there are any problems with the phone and is there customs on the phones ?
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Personally, at this time, it's much better to look for a newer released phone. Probably a dual core with a bigger internal memory. But if camera is your main thing, then go for arc plus it's design is really a beauty. And for average usage, arc is enough.
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I wouldnt buy a sony again.
And is the arc's camera still the best? My friend says his S2 beats my arc's camera in test.

LanceAmr said:
As stated from title , im wish to get an xperia arc since its camera is good and used sony x10 , which was fun flashing custom roms. Just wondering whether there are any problems with the phone and is there customs on the phones ?
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I just got mine delivered today. Compared to X10, it is a jump forward. I like it so far, fast and responsive. Galaxy S2 looks good but at $150 more compared to arc.

Rycon33 said:
Personally, at this time, it's much better to look for a newer released phone. Probably a dual core with a bigger internal memory. But if camera is your main thing, then go for arc plus it's design is really a beauty. And for average usage, arc is enough.
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Hmmmm . Im using optimus 2x , and well not much customization like timescape and those things. Like those things when i was on x10 . Anyways got the 2x for gaming but then im growing older and my speed is getting slower so dual cores arent my thing anymore . So yea ill reconsider about getting the phone.
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nöt said:
I wouldnt buy a sony again.
And is the arc's camera still the best? My friend says his S2 beats my arc's camera in test.
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Not getting another dual core at the moment . Got another friend using a S2 . Dont wish to have the same phone as him ;P
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Bushmaster78FS said:
I just got mine delivered today. Compared to X10, it is a jump forward. I like it so far, fast and responsive. Galaxy S2 looks good but at $150 more compared to arc.
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Hahaha yea . S2 is abit more but dual cores are just for gaming for me but i dun game anymore. Internet browsing still looks good and better on a laptop hahahaha.
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Let's, first, see how things develop on the Galaxy SII/Galaxy series front. Apple has already got the Galaxy Tab 10.1 banned in Europe for copyright infringements, and it's seeking a ban of the Galaxy Tab and Galaxy range of phones in the US, too.

nöt said:
I wouldnt buy a sony again.
And is the arc's camera still the best? My friend says his S2 beats my arc's camera in test.
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Arc's camera beats every other Android device when it comes to camera.
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Well, that's debatable. The SGS2 takes pretty good pictures as well.

LanceAmr said:
As stated from title , im wish to get an xperia arc since its camera is good and used sony x10 , which was fun flashing custom roms. Just wondering whether there are any problems with the phone and is there customs on the phones ?
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I have used following phones:
HTC Desire, Samsung Galaxy S, iPhone 4, Xperia X10 & Arc
I can say that I was never satisfied with the ugliness of HTC & cheapness of Samsung.
HTC Desire was always short of Internal Memory, Samsung KIES sucks a big time, touch screen is aweful.
iPhone is good phone but not for me, nothing much to do
Xperia X10 was a good effort from SE but lacks proper updates.
Xperia Arc is complete package:
1. Awesome design (best of all android devices, even better than iFail)
2. Best Camera.
3. Decent video recording.
4. Great Sound (compared to HTC, Samsung)
5. Impressive UI & touch screen.
6. Regular updates from SE as well.
only RAM is 512 (not a major problem)
But again, its my opinion

xperiax10.awesome said:
I have used following phones:
HTC Desire, Samsung Galaxy S, iPhone 4, Xperia X10 & Arc
I can say that I was never satisfied with the ugliness of HTC & cheapness of Samsung.
HTC Desire was always short of Internal Memory, Samsung KIES sucks a big time, touch screen is aweful.
iPhone is good phone but not for me, nothing much to do
Xperia X10 was a good effort from SE but lacks proper updates.
Xperia Arc is complete package:
1. Awesome design (best of all android devices, even better than iFail)
2. Best Camera.
3. Decent video recording.
4. Great Sound (compared to HTC, Samsung)
5. Impressive UI & touch screen.
6. Regular updates from SE as well.
only RAM is 512 (not a major problem)
But again, its my opinion
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Have to agree with this, had iPhone (3g) SE X1i, Motorola, Nokia...but i do like the Arc.

xtacy! said:
Well, that's debatable. The SGS2 takes pretty good pictures as well.
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In low light also?

I think this will help you.
Here is the Camera Test(Not by ME):
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=3619&idPhone2=3621&idPhone3=3598
From the above you can see ARC have Good Quality.
In My Opinion:
Camera Quality is very good when compared to SG,Desire.

i was using the X10 since sept 2010 and i was holding out for a SE dual core phone, but the X10 was just too slow.
I just got an Xperia Arc used on Craigslist, so it price was good.
As for the camera quality, every thing looks good on the camera screen, but i haven't reviewed or taken enough pictures to make a good judgement about the Xperia Arc's camera.
However, from the few that I have reviewed, it does take better night pictures, but they are FILLED with noise. I have kept all the photos on my SD card. I used to have a K750 --> K800 --> X10 --> Arc and I just keep moving the pictures over from the memory sticks and you definitely see the improvement in camera quality, except from the X10 --> Arc.
If you can get it for a good price, I would just upgrade, sell the X10 for whatever you can get, and then wait it out for a dual core SE or have fun with it until you decide to drop the big bucks for a SGS2 or something that is WAY faster.
The Arc's speed is much better than the X10's but it's still a bit laggy, esp with a huge SMS history and Whatpapp logs...

MarcSinger said:
Let's, first, see how things develop on the Galaxy SII/Galaxy series front. Apple has already got the Galaxy Tab 10.1 banned in Europe for copyright infringements, and it's seeking a ban of the Galaxy Tab and Galaxy range of phones in the US, too.
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Wow seriously? I hadn't heard that, on what grounds?

It was my second day owning an arc in the US. Of course I have been digging threads to find a way to easily root this US model. Also the new firmware update is not available for US. It makes me think, isn't the United States a big market for SE, why don't they have the US a little higher priority?

xperiax10.awesome said:
I have used following phones:
HTC Desire, Samsung Galaxy S, iPhone 4, Xperia X10 & Arc
I can say that I was never satisfied with the ugliness of HTC & cheapness of Samsung.
HTC Desire was always short of Internal Memory, Samsung KIES sucks a big time, touch screen is aweful.
iPhone is good phone but not for me, nothing much to do
Xperia X10 was a good effort from SE but lacks proper updates.
Xperia Arc is complete package:
1. Awesome design (best of all android devices, even better than iFail)
2. Best Camera.
3. Decent video recording.
4. Great Sound (compared to HTC, Samsung)
5. Impressive UI & touch screen.
6. Regular updates from SE as well.
only RAM is 512 (not a major problem)
But again, its my opinion
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Hahaha have to agree that SE makes designs that arent similar to other phones . Will still keep thinking till i get my next pay .
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svprm said:
I think this will help you.
Here is the Camera Test(Not by ME):
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=3619&idPhone2=3621&idPhone3=3598
From the above you can see ARC have Good Quality.
In My Opinion:
Camera Quality is very good when compared to SG,Desire.
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Thx for the info
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pierreti said:
i was using the X10 since sept 2010 and i was holding out for a SE dual core phone, but the X10 was just too slow.
I just got an Xperia Arc used on Craigslist, so it price was good.
As for the camera quality, every thing looks good on the camera screen, but i haven't reviewed or taken enough pictures to make a good judgement about the Xperia Arc's camera.
However, from the few that I have reviewed, it does take better night pictures, but they are FILLED with noise. I have kept all the photos on my SD card. I used to have a K750 --> K800 --> X10 --> Arc and I just keep moving the pictures over from the memory sticks and you definitely see the improvement in camera quality, except from the X10 --> Arc.
If you can get it for a good price, I would just upgrade, sell the X10 for whatever you can get, and then wait it out for a dual core SE or have fun with it until you decide to drop the big bucks for a SGS2 or something that is WAY faster.
The Arc's speed is much better than the X10's but it's still a bit laggy, esp with a huge SMS history and Whatpapp logs...
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Hmmm planning to sell off my x10 but waiting for SE dual cores will take a long time and im not aiming dual cores that much . Hardly use it for gaming . Only listen to music , msn , calls ,msgs and couple of vids before i go to bed and alot of picture taking when im in my lecture halls. So yea, those things dont require much power
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[Q] Arc S vs LG Optimus 2X

Hey XDA. Right now, i have a LG O2X, just turning a year old. My dad just orderd an arc s for a small price. He really doesnt care what phone it is, he just wants to go read the news on the fly.
So, should i choose the Arc? Btw, my mom has a pair of livesound headphones laying around.
So:
Arc S:
Better screen?
Fully working ics
Sleek
Good headphones
but:
Slower
not so much for gaming.
viewing angles?
LG:
Fast with custom rom ( using temasek kang):
Good screen?
but:
thick, heavy
not much support from nvidia.
What would you choose?
I listen to music for about 1.5-2 hours per day while surfing the web on 3G. I play occasionally.

I think you're asking this in the wrong place... Most of us will prefer the ARC, since we have it...
Anyway...
The ARC community works really hard and we always have updates and improved roms here... I'm to a point where I flash a new rom, kernel, bb every week... Because of that, the phone gets better everyday, so I don't think it's drastically slower... You can always OC it too... The ARC S with DOOM's kernel you can go up to 2ghz... And still get good battery life... Just to know, my 7 home screen on ICS are full of widgets (I don't keep icons or anything else on them)... I keep 4 e-mail accounts with the sinc on the whole day, a twitter account with the updates for every 5 minutes, a facebook account every 30 minutes, samething with LinkedIn and G+... I listen to music for 2h-2h30 everyday, Around 3h/4h of calls and I still get a whole 24h on my battery...
Right now I have ICElite by zdzihu and it's great... It's still a bit laggy, but I'm sure they're working to fix it... I also had Arconium which was a great ROM and many other MIUIs that had a perfect smooth experience... Still, ICS is great to work, the UI is the best I've seen up to now...
The screen is great and the design of the phone is top!!! It fits on your hand perfectly... Everywhere I go, people who are not much into phones ask me what phone it is... I just love it...
I will need a separate phone for work in June and I'm really thinking about getting an ARC S and have two ARCs...
For reference, I always check Engadget for these questions and I think they have a post about the two phones...
I hope I helped...
Cheers!!!

I would like to say, SE Xperia Arc S, is not worth the price.
Just like all the other Sony handsets released with out-dated specs, they only work with because of their magnificent looks.
I own an Arc S, it dint proved powerful. 1.4Ghz is no upto mark.
The phone calling feature in Stock Rom itself is very slow, it doesn't respond quick and the SE interface is comparative slow. Tried many custom Launchers, but when returning back to home, it was lagging.
My previous phones have been HTC WF, WFS, Evo 4g, I would say they worked quite well with the specs they had.
One more thing I have noticed in Arc S, the applications quickly close while multitasking. E.g. Using Browser and Opera Mobile simultaneously, one of them closes, and this din't happened with Evo 4G, also, Market and Opera dint go well.
I have expressed cons above.
The Pros,
Really awesome display. Though, AMOLED was much richer, I liked the display.
If you are going to choose custom ROMs, the phone Rocks. Just as mariolcneto said, many mods are available which makes the phone even better. But, its upto you, if you want to customize, root, the phone, the phone will provide you everything.
Camera is quiet reliable, but the best part is, its too quick to shoot. Very quick indeed.
Sound quality is promising.
LG O2X, is quiet powerful, lacks the community support though.
Choose the phone according to your needs.
All the best.

Well, you can try your dad's phone(if he lets you ).
I prefer Arc, although it is slower(definitely not slow, but a bit slower than the 2X).
Arc has larger and better screen than the 2X. Arc has better camera also.
On the other hand, 2X is faster/better performance. And I believe the community is a bit larger(although Arc has a load of roms/tweaks/themes)
When I bought my Arc S, my second alternative was 2X, but I were so excited of the Arc's screen, and here we are.
Hard decision to make, but if you're gonna buy Arc, buy Arc S instead of the older Arc(1.4GHz vs 1GHz)

Thank you all for sharing. I also posted the question on the O2X forums. It seems that i am confused.
Hmm, yes indeed the LG is fast, but my mother has a Ray, and it is not considerably slower :S
As of the community, i think the O2X has a bigger one, but there is no support from nVidia.(Or LG, (LeakedROM)). Therefor the Arc S i think is a better choice when looking at it like that.
ArmorD - He ordered an Arc S
I the end, i think i will let him choose, makes my decision more easy
Oh, and by the way, the Arc has a bigger resolution. 854x480 vs 800v480
Again, thank you!

[Q] Need advice from you Art Owners.

Hi all,
I am currently using an Xperia X10, with unlocked bootloader and a custom rom. Does almost everything i need from a phone, but it can always be faster and better right
Today i stumbled upon a nice offer with an Xperia Arc S. I can also choose a samsung galaxy s plus..
So i have a few questions for you guys:
Do you recommend the arc s? I really like SE for it's build quality and excellent camera. So the samsung is out i think . PLus the Arc S having Android 4.0.
Is the Arc S nicely build?
Battery life? (xperia x10 has 1500mah, but with custom rom it gets trough the day with ease)
I will almost certainly do the same with it as i did with my x10 : rooting the phone and tweak it. So is the arc S an easy phone to edit and root? Are there some nice ICS roms for it? (of course there are )
How about performance? i know it is not the best phone on the market, you could even call it an "older" model. Adreno 205 is a good GPU isn't it?
And is the camera really as good as Sony claims it is? Yeah i am not comparing it to my dslr (SonyD) Alpha A500), but can you make some nice pictures with it.
Or should i just pay a bit more and go for Xperia S
I have been using my x10 for 2 years now, don't know if i will do the same with the arc S. But the offer is so good that i could even sell the phone and still don't pay more than with my current Sim-Only.
I hope i get some answers from you guys. Information from users is much more valuable than everything i read on the net. Reviews are generally pretty positive.
Greets, and thanks in advance

I would go for the Xperia S personally, the arc is great but the lack of RAM and memory make it often frustrating to use. Multitasking is a pain because you'll find that you leave an app, come back to it and it will have closed most annoying on the browser. Also once you install a decent amount of apps on it you do start to notice it lag.
It is a great phone, as long as you're a light user. Going back to my arc from my Xperia S you do notice this more. That said it is a good update from the X10 which is very sluggish with 2.3, but if you want something much better and more future proof I would recommend at least a phone with 1GB RAM and a dualcore processor.

I don't have an arc s, I have an arc. I previously used an x10 though and the arc is worlds better (even with similar specs). The rom community for the arc is also very active so you'll likely find exactly what you need for your usage.
That said, adsada is right; if you can swing it I would get a newer xperia phone, but if the deal on the arc s really is a good one I can't see any reason not to grab it. Just expect to use your phone like a phone, not a computer

if u buy arc s you are going 10 months behind with u see the config..but the looks are still futuristic..one of the best looking phone. but only drawback is its RAM..if u want your phone to survive jelly beans load and want to stick to it atleast for 1-1.5 years then i think your btr go for xperia s..
i have 3 smartphones..i see my defy as a rough & tough man..i see my SGS2 as a big corporate man with suit blazers..but when i see my arc s i see her as a sexy victoria secret model ..
BTW this is general section...Questions should go into Q & A section..

The build quality is good.
The battery life...hmmmmm.. I am still waiting for the phone that last more than 1 day in heavy use. Still, with the right ROM and settings, it lasts about 10h (and by heavy duty I mean HEAVY DUTY, used at least 6h out of 10 - music, internet (data), gaming, etc)
Camera is good. I had nothing to complain about.
The RAM and internal memory is indeed a drawback. Still, some workarounds can be found with the right ROM and app configurations.
If you want it mainly for the design.. go for it, it is great!
If you are more interested in force than in beauty... go for Xperia S.

Thanks for the answers.
Yeah the offer is pretty nice, but i think i will wait a bit and buy something a bit more high performance.
Looks of the Art S are the best though, i really think there isn't a better looking phone on the market right now.
Lack of Ram is something the X10 has too. Really irritating sometimes, but after some modding you can run it pretty fast.
But i really like to tweak things, and i like technically advanced stuff. So it is probably better to buy something different.
Don't know if i stay with sony though.. Samsung galaxy S2 is getting a lot cheaper fast here. So that probably is a lot value for many. I hate touchwich, so that one will be modded for sure

i have an Arc S, to be honest i prefer the Galaxy. Arc S is good but when it comes to updates i think ICS will be the last update this phone will ever taste (porting will help but some stuff might not work)
maybe newer ver of android requires a bigger memory (RAM) ICS is kinda slow on this phone but Modding helps speed it up.

im an arc user also..
work in a mobile section been exploring all high end phones
just my own opinion and what ive experience
sony - camera / visual(your screen) / audio
those criteria sony will have great advantage towards other brands
but speed xperia s dual core old architecture cpu,
s4 dual core phones will swallow it alive
im planning also to change my phone maybe other brand
i used my arc for almost a year now and the ram just cant handle it

got an Samsung Galaxy S2 and an Sony Arc S. have to say, the RAM on the Arc is really a problem, but the camera is way better than on the Samsung :-D
currently I´m trying AOKP on my Arc S, just to see if it handles the RAM really better than Stock
so for you: get a device with more RAM and nice optics ;-) but you probably won´t be disappointed with the Arc S.

... If you want a upgrade from x10 go for sony S http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_s-4369.php, it is a bit expensive now, but if you wait a little it will be a good upgrade.

[Q] HOX or p880?!

hello all. im in a little bit of dilemma here.
im ex galaxy s2 owner, fell in water for 45mins (superb phone, RIP) and im about to sign my new contract.
price range is like this with me, its eighter HTC one X (int,quad) or LG p880 4x HD.
price difference is minimal for my contract. (htc slihgtly more expensive)
Now the thing is. i love more edgy phones (which LG is, reminds of my s2 <3) but since im not ultra rich i wld like my phone
to whitstand loads of monts of heavy use. and i know, HTC makes some really good finishes on their phones.
When u look at specs, basicly the same, 720p screen, similar shooters, same RAM, same tegra 3..
So, honestly, check the specs of LG and tell me, what would you choose if you were buying one of these 2 now?
and no, i dont want ANY OTHER phones. nor do i have the money, nor does my provider offer.
Anyways, thank you for any opinions.

One X all the way development and the quality of the device is way ahead

hamdir said:
One X all the way development and the quality of the device is way ahead
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thanks for reply. thats what im thinking myself, lets see what others say

One X. No question about that. You're on xda and this is all about development. 4X has nothing.
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yep my sister has 4XHD but i didn't found something really for it...and the phones is still on 4.0.3 ....ok it has larger battery and my sister said she has good battery life but yea ok screen development etc is nothing compared to our hox

I own both as you can see from my signature and i can tell you ..
1. HOX has a little better screen-color, saturation but i do not like HOX screen because the glass is like mirror if you use phone outside and need really pop up your screen brightness -> battery drain as hell
2. Battery time differences when you actually use phone are almost the same, some times better with 4X some times better with HOX (i do not play games - only movies, web browsing, sms and calls, photos (HOX camera is battery drain in comparation with 4X)) - but standby time is better for HOX
3. HOX build quality is better, my LG 4X is 6 mounts younger than HOX but have cracking sound and looks like 6 mounts older than HOX actually , HOX is stable regarding screen replacement-my fault (i must say i do not use protection cases and screen protectors)
4. Must say that 4X with JB have done a good job with camera..better pics than HOX, especially closeup photos- Really without complaining!
5. Must also say that 4X JB update is first android and LG user interface that i do not wont to change, you really have much options for personalization and also much user intuitive than HOX
6. HTC push Flash player app on HTC even in JB for web browsing, 4X UI have landscape mode for home screen and app drawer without using a custom launcher!
7. For developers ..probably HOX is better..But 4X also have support, 4X JB source code is released from LG, CM nightly is here allreday, and actually flashing custom ROMs it is much simpler for LG 4X - just need actually rom manager from play store, and just put desired rom file to sd card, and much more simpler to go back to stock-just flash .kdz or .dz, and you can root 4X without unlocking bootloader and using custom recovery which you must do with HOX because of S-ON!
8. HOX after JB update support usb OTG natively - LG 4X as it seems have hardware limitation even if that function is enabled with some apps or hacks..
So i can not advise you what to buy because - your needs->your phone but i can say that after several months of usage i choose to use HOX for testing and developing and 4X for every day use, using 4X on daily base is for me much happier and easier experience!

Hmmm. So my thoughts exactly.. LG maybe better for daily use, but not a really awesome build quality..
donno. well, im goin to pick one of these up today. i quess ill just test them both there and see. will let you know what i chose

In my group of friends there are three 4X's and one, mine, One X, so I've done quite an extensive comparison over the time and I can tell you without being biased by my love for the HOX, the HOX is a better phone. You get a better designed/built phone with a better display. Photos are better on the 4X but the video shooting and camera options go for the One X. Sense is better than whatever the LG skin is named and we'll get Sense 5 in the future. Last but not least the One X has way more active development that is very important when choosing a phone for people like me, I don't know about you but it probably is important to you
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im back from shop with HOX!
i compared them there, and what really made me decide for HOX is build quality. also, better viewing angles on display. benchmarks were basicly on par, even with full sense running. also, im a custom ROM lover, and i quess HOX is better in that also, its been out for a while.
HOX!

Optimus 4x is terrible for gaming. We got unlock and official cm10.1 now but theres no decent gaming kernel yet
Sent from my rooted P880

My workmate has ordered a P880.He's now waiting for the delivery.
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What phone to get after Desire?

I had HTC Desire for nearly 3 years, and it is a great phone, but I think it is time to upgrade, because:
- it is annoyingly slow with my regular set of programs installed, even on fastest available roms
- it doesn't have kernel 3.0, and because of that JB roms have shortcomings
- a little bit too small screen for GPS navigation
- really crappy camera
- somewhat short battery life
Some time ago I had a chance to look at Galaxy S2 in person and it looked like a perfect phone (at least for 2 minutes I had it in my hands).
Somewhat bigger screen, more internal storage, kernel 3.0.
I use custom roms, so big development community is important for me. I have been spoiled by Desire as it (still) has a large one.
Galaxy S2 would cost me around 170-200 euro to get it.
Should I take that, or look for something else in this price range?
My requirements:
- larger screen (not necessarily much larger)
- android (duh)
- solid build quality
- large development community
- noticeably faster CPU than Desire (Dual+ core would come in handy)
- microUSB
- good/very good camera
- good battery life
- price up to 200 euro (used)
- would be nice if it had FM transmitter (not receiver) but it is not necessary
- it must by BLACK or therebout

I also considered s2 but there's one serious setback to it. Namely, the screen is amoled and without pentile matrix.
What's bad about it you ask? pixels that are frequently used lose color and items that you have on screen for most time are somewhat paler than the rest of the screen, and you can see their shadow for the whole time, ppl reported that with all amoled displays and non pentile of s2 is even more susceptible to that. That happens even to devices 3 months old, depending on how heavily they are used I guess. You can google it to see for yourself, just type galaxy s2 amoled burn in. There are also few good YouTube vids showing that. Items that you usually can see are burned in status bar, soft keys from your most used app, keyboard, alarm icon and "fully charged" sign across the screen as during night charging the phone lights up when battery is full and keeps the screen on until you turn it off or unplug it/on some ROMs at least, stock including/.

Is Desire not affected by that?
Then what else would you suggest?

Only first edition of desire pvt1 I believe had amoled screens, the rest are sporting slcd which is not organic and does not suffer from this burn in effect.

impactor said:
I had HTC Desire for nearly 3 years, and it is a great phone, but I think it is time to upgrade, because:
- it is annoyingly slow with my regular set of programs installed, even on fastest available roms
- it doesn't have kernel 3.0, and because of that JB roms have shortcomings
- a little bit too small screen for GPS navigation
- really crappy camera
- somewhat short battery life
Some time ago I had a chance to look at Galaxy S2 in person and it looked like a perfect phone (at least for 2 minutes I had it in my hands).
Somewhat bigger screen, more internal storage, kernel 3.0.
I use custom roms, so big development community is important for me. I have been spoiled by Desire as it (still) has a large one.
Galaxy S2 would cost me around 170-200 euro to get it.
Should I take that, or look for something else in this price range?
My requirements:
- larger screen (not necessarily much larger)
- android (duh)
- solid build quality
- large development community
- noticeably faster CPU than Desire (Dual+ core would come in handy)
- microUSB
- good/very good camera
- good battery life
- price up to 200 euro (used)
- would be nice if it had FM transmitter (not receiver) but it is not necessary
- it must by BLACK or therebout
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Go for SGS2+. It is newer phone, available almost at the same price as SGS2, probably have warranty and no burn-in effect of any major cosmetic wear.
But I think there is no black variant, but dark blue.
Price is 200-230 EUR.

HTC sensation
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dvd777 said:
Go for SGS2+. It is newer phone, available almost at the same price as SGS2, probably have warranty and no burn-in effect of any major cosmetic wear.
But I think there is no black variant, but dark blue.
Price is 200-230 EUR.
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What is the model number of that one? Galaxies have very confusing customer names.

impactor said:
What is the model number of that one? Galaxies have very confusing customer names.
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I9105 if l'm not mistaken.
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S2+ makes no sense, is more expensive than regular s2, has same screen with same setbacks and worse gpu, videocoreiv vs Mali 400.
Sensation seems good, but I've got no experience with that phone.

If you want a dev community supporting your device, avoid htc phones. HTC is terribly slow when it comes to releasing updates and sources.
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totalnoob34 said:
If you want a dev community supporting your device, avoid htc phones. HTC is terribly slow when it comes to releasing updates and sources.
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I disagree with you. But again, it is on him to pick something that he likes. We are here to suggest him.
I like HTC Because of Sense,speed (on some new devices) new features big rom list's etc. I dont like samsung bcs every new phone (LG,ZTE,Nokia,Sony, and many more) are copy of Samsung,Same android UI, same phone design i will say. JUST A COPY .
HTC Have some original from begining of production for me that is a great and like i sayed i will suggest you to buy some HTC Model (HTC One X, HTC Sensation.not new but very good, HTC One v (it is not so special but it is very good,speed, and it is very Cheap)
But if you want to buy some other phone mark Yes i will suggest you to but SGSII or SGSIII Mini. Mini have small Display but have great camera great speed great support and what is importatt you can find it for 170/80 Eur
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+1 for the sensation, i baught mine used for 100 euro and its like brand new, i got it off a guy cheap coz it was stuck in bootloader lol, i got it home, flashed a ruu then s-off & rooted and it has great dev support, loads of sense roms, 3.5 - 3.6 - 4.1 - 4+ and now waiting for team venom to release sense 5. Also loads of JB - AOSP roms and 4.3 JB roms, really is a great phone with good hardware to handle all roms.

About sensation, the newer roms have working camera/video or is it stuck with that issue like our old desires?
And how do you cope without the trackpad, I tend to write lengthy emails/forum posts and it's a great tool when I want too correct something, yet no other phone has it. does it mean trouble for guys like me?

freebird24h said:
About sensation, the newer roms have working camera/video or is it stuck with that issue like our old desires?
And how do you cope without the trackpad, I tend to write lengthy emails/forum posts and it's a great tool when I want too correct something, yet no other phone has it. does it mean trouble for guys like me?
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everything works, and i never really used trackpad on the desire.

I would never buy sensation. Death grip issues and dust under screen glass is way too much for me. Sgs2+ is ftw in my opinion.
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Meh, I am stuck.
I read around here that s2 display is horrible when compared to s3.
s3 has even cheaper feel, and is 100-170e more expensive
Sensation is useless to me.
Price of S4 is absurd...

impactor said:
Meh, I am stuck.
I read around here that s2 display is horrible when compared to s3.
s3 has even cheaper feel, and is 100-170e more expensive
Sensation is useless to me.
Price of S4 is absurd...
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What bout One X/S? In ireland they going for bout 175 - 225 euro, good all round phone and fairly solid.

One S would be good bargain, but no official 4.2.2 for him. He is eol already, unfortunately. One X is expensive, like S3.
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My friend is selling his One X for 200 euro in mint condition, he dont use it, its just sitting in his drawer. I was gona buy it but i always wanted a sensation lol. If ur interested i could say to him, he has it a while so maybe i can get it cheaper for u. Postage would be round 10 euro. Let me know
P.S - im not dodgy r that, user k3lcior had no gps antenna so i gave him mine from my desire (coz my desire is dead), free of charge, and i posted it to poland.

well if I may make a suggestion, I would say get the Nexus 4
Pros: (according to what you listed)
larger screen and clearer screen
will always have the latest and greatest Android OS since its from Google
I don't remember the build quality on it but I know its at least better than the desire
haven't checked the dev support but since its a bit more open.... should still be better than the desire
very fast 1.5GHz quad-core CPU
microUSB
8MP camera and a 1.3MP front cam
decent 2,100 mAh battery
and most importantly it comes in Black
Cons:
its $300 which about 224 euros (so slightly over budget although sorta worth it)
no FM trasmitter
limited storage and no SD card expansion
so really its an amazing phone, its mainly only brought down by not having an SD card slot but if you find the 8 or 16GB models fine then I'd say go for it.